[Fiend]

I think there are some nice routes there. I like routes though.

At some point I'll drag myself back to back off Rainy Day Blues again  :?

[Jim]

the best looking thing there is over near where bonjoy's project type thing is, from the top of the block with the tor type thing on, throw a bouldering mat into the rhodies and jump onto it. looks awesome, didn't try it mind

[r-man]

The Turningstone project is no more. After far too many days effort, Keenus finaly climbed his roof project at about 10pm on friday night.

Looks really good. Any more details? What are the moves? What's the crux?

[Bonjoy]

For a quicker walk-in, park half way along Holestone Gate Road by a gate into a field with a small circular walled off wood on the north/crag side of the road. Follow path through field, then wood, then field and continue straight ahead, should lead you to big the Beech tree near top of descent gully.
 The Jellyache and Cyclop's Eye on CT are both excellent. Turningstone is a bit overhyped in the Chatsworth guide but has a few very good routes nonetheless. National Power, E5 in guide but more like hard E3 is a very fun totally safe roof route. Rainy Day Blues, Overton Arete and Hugo Devries are all good. If you are there with a pad the overhung smallish arete a couple metres left of Overton Arete has a good 7a/7a+ dyno up it.

 Just for the record I for one have no beef with either Ru or Pantontino's slots in the mags. For me they are usually the best bits of the respective mags infact.

[fatneck]

Just for the record I for one have no beef with either Ru or Pantontino's slots in the mags. For me they are usually the best bits of the respective mags infact.

Hear Hear    

[BenF]

Totally off topic, but I notice you're online...  Si (fatneck), are you climbing tonight?  And did you go to the Breck on Tuesday by the way?  Was it dry?

[grimer]

Yes, and surely these 2 examples are what mags are best at, ie giving context to what's going on, and should be what mags should do more of.

In this respect, i think that ditching Neil Foster as the rock noter after High and OTE merged was a terrible move, as his reports always had a great authority and depth of knowledge, and was always the best thing about High.

[grimer]

Oh, and on a different note, how do you go about being something other than a 'manacing presence' on the little box on the left? I don't want to be a menacing presence.

[r-man]

The more you post, the less menacing you become...

[grimer]

Grrrrrrr

[Johnny Brown]

Agreed on Neil Foster. He could even make sport climbing seem interesting.

[Bonjoy]

Oh, and on a different note, how do you go about being something other than a 'manacing presence' on the little box on the left? I don't want to be a menacing presence.

 What would you like to be? Ant Farmer, Horse Worrier, Racing Pigeon ?

[r-man]

James 'Keen yoof' Pearsons has sent his roof project at Turning stone edge near Matlock. James reckons 8a+ for this new problem - name to be confirmed. Ta to UKB for the news, more and pics

Isn't it called River of Life?

[Bubba]

Oh, and on a different note, how do you go about being something other than a 'manacing presence' on the little box on the left? I don't want to be a menacing presence.

you can have whatever you want grimer, those are just the default titles....PM me with your chosen name, unless you want Bonjoy to choose one for you

[dave]

Agreed on Neil Foster. He could even make sport climbing seem interesting.

he also has the best trousers in the '89 stanage guide.

[dobbin]

Isn't it called River of Life?

Dunno - is it?

[r-man]

Well what else is the thread title about then?  :?

[grimer]

yeah, i loved the neil foster bit. You sort of got the impression he'd seen it all, and could put things into a good historical as well as contemporary context. You know, he didn't just say this has happened and this is how hard it is, but he'd say This has happened, it's signifucant, and here's why. In the end they just shat him off with all  the courtesy you'd expect.

[dobbin]

Well what else is the thread title about then?  :?

Never assume anything. To do so makes an ASS of U and ME  :wink:

Someone else has asked the question earlier on and noone has confirmed or denied thats its called River of LIfe.

[fatneck]

Totally off topic, but I notice you're online... Si (fatneck), are you climbing tonight? And did you go to the Breck on Tuesday by the way? Was it dry?

Didn't want to totally hijack this thread so have PM'd you Ben!
Easy :

[Bonjoy]

Nice choice Grimer, it's a strange mental picture!

[Jim]

disapointed keenus didn't go with my suggestion, but looking back on it, its a bit gay

[SA Chris]

Well what else is the thread title about then?  :?

I'm glad I'm not the only person who is confused then :shock:

What does the thread title refer to in that case?

[james]

Ok to clear up any confusion, the problem is called River Of Life.  Sorry Jim, I was keen for your name but Unclesomebody pursuaded me out of it.

[SA Chris]

Cool, from the nag's gob as it were.

Fine effort yoof.