[dave]

i look forward to these guys coming over and onsighting equilibrium in that case.

[Buoux 8C]

Serously i woudnt be suprised if equilibrium would get On sighted. Its fairly safe and only around 8b. Some of these spanish Guys on sight 8b for warming up no joke. If only they where intersted, but they would take one look at it and go home. As for parthian shot, they would absoloutely piss it On sight, the climbing would be so easy for them, they really wouldnt have a problem. I have tried to persuade these boys to come to britain but their not at all intersted, not even in the sport routes let alone the trad, if only i could persuade them to come for one week, thats all they would need, must try harder.

[Fingers of a Martyr]

Its fairly safe

yeah v12 crux section with 35 feet groundfall potential sounds pretty safe to me too.

[Buoux 8C]

LOL  

[Fingers of a Martyr]

i remember reading about sum foreign dude soloing a verticalish 12 metre 8b+ with the crux at the 8m point. no mats or spotters either. can't remember his bastard name though.

[Greg C]

Equilibrium won't be any harder than V9... Gresham's done it  :saythat:

[Greg C]

...whilst commentating to 10 punters from London who where on a Planet Fear"Pay £900 to let Gresham poit out the obvious flaws in your climbing abilty" course!  :?  

[Fingers of a Martyr]

don't u mean 10 punters from london and 1 from lancashire greg? :wink:

[Greg C]

Nah I'd be down on the southern sandstone intermediates course with Shane Ohly and Adrian Baxter telling me how to put my shoes on and the correct procedure to opperate my chalk bag  

[Greg C]

...and paying £2000 for the privilege  :alco:

[Fingers of a Martyr]

'Got No Friends?

Well for just £10,000 we'll take u and 10 other socially retarded billy no mates' to france and let u belay myself (mr gresham, bodybuilder, ahem... climber extraordinaire). And if you're lucky i may even give u all a personalised in-depth report on just how shit u really are.'

[Greg C]

To be honest I have absolute respect for Planet Fear team they have come up with an license to print money and good on em!!

If some daft old fruit from London wants to pay shed loads to go climbing with famous types thats fine by me!  Do you get a refund if Steve Mclure can't do a 8c+ on request  :wink:

[a dense loner]

on the subject of these spanish types comin over n leaving the peak in ruins... 8c kev, the clues in the name n he's spanish. could hang on crimps all day but...

[dave]

...and paying £2000 for the privilege  :alco:

only £2000? where do i sign?

anyone else notice going on the photos on their site it seems to be the same people who go on each one? i wish i had money like that to piss away. Mind you, does beg the question if the coaching is that effective why do they need to go back? :wink:

[Bubba]

Who was that Swiss guy who was over a couple of years ago and was flashing Brad Pit and generally kicking some ass?

[dave]

Serously i woudnt be suprised if equilibrium would get On sighted. Its fairly safe and only around 8b. Some of these spanish Guys on sight 8b for warming up no joke.

yeah, but do they onsight tenchical slappy slopey arete shit, where you could die?

[Pantontino]

I reckon the insecurity factor on thin vertical/slabby grit routes bumps the E grade. A super steep line of 8b posi pocket pulling could feel quite controlled if you had the power (and stamina), but stuff like Equilibrium  (I'm guessing) is always going to feel on-off.

[Buoux 8C]

regarding Spanish kev, the top spaniards are in a totally different league to kev, and even spanish kev managed an E7 on site, despite having done no trad whatsoever. really Im sure even Kev will tell you this, their another level to him.

Why do most brits think that foreign climbers would have a problem with grit because its so techniqual slopey bla bla blah.
These guys are doing 8c and 8c+ routes on vertical granite walls at places like monseratt in a few trys. you do not get more techniqual and thin routes such as these. They are also on sighting 8b's and 8b+ routes in the same style. Seriously they wouldnt have a problem with these types of routes. They are in totally different leagues to the likes of sharma Graham etc, i really dont think a 8b arete would cause them any problem.

And about it been V12 in the crux, Go try superman and then equilibrium, tell me which one is harder, enough said

[account_inactive]

regarding Spanish kev, the top spaniards are in a totally different league to kev, and even spanish kev managed an E7 on site, despite having done no trad whatsoever. really Im sure even Kev will tell you this, their another level to him.

Why do most brits think that foreign climbers would have a problem with grit because its so techniqual slopey bla bla blah.
These guys are doing 8c and 8c+ routes on vertical granite walls at places like monseratt in a few trys. you do not get more techniqual and thin routes such as these. They are also on sighting 8b's and 8b+ routes in the same style. Seriously they wouldnt have a problem with these types of routes. They are in totally different leagues to the likes of sharma Graham etc, i really dont think a 8b arete would cause them any problem.

And about it been V12 in the crux, Go try superman and then equilibrium, tell me which one is harder, enough said

 :bang:  :blowjob:  Viva Espangne eh Buoux

[Nigel]

Rock on, I did a bit with the Kev-meister last winter and it is true, he regards himself as nothing compared with Ramon, Patxi etc. And although he did do Shine On onsight (and then again for cameras!) lets be honest its not E7 its just a highball. He also admitted to being naff at "freection", "smeeerin", and "scary head shit". That said he is a fuckin wad! Lets not forget that even gritstone's hard shit boils down to beastliness.

Equilibrium V12! I've been on it and can tell you that its V9/10, depending on height. Most of this is safe as houses - its only dangerous after the crux, although the moves are still 6b here.

[Mr.Burns]

Ivan Tresch (sp?) is the swiss guy i think bubba. He was a beast, got to the last moves on careless torque second go jumped off then went and tried something else!

[Bubba]

That's the guy, and apparantly his brother was even better than him.

[dave]

pussy

[cofe]

hands up who's done superman?  

[squeek]

Ivan Tresch (sp?) is the swiss guy i think bubba. He was a beast, got to the last moves on careless torque second go jumped off then went and tried something else!

Onsight Solo'ed Marrowbone jelly and the other routes next to it one after another.