[Ru]

Let's get it over with.

And quick, I've got to get the damn thing to print.

[Johnny Brown]

Depends where other probs are goin in really;-)

Are these two the 7c/7c+ boundary then?

[Stu Littlefair]

I'm only voting for 7c 'cos there's no 7a+ button.

[cofe]

[a dense loner]

I'm only voting for 7c 'cos there's no 7a+ button.

let's get voting for the really easy probs on the eaglestone

[Nigel]

I've gone for 7c+ on the basis that its very conditions dependent and good conditions as we all know are quite rare! You also need to be fairly strong for a couple of the moves, good with your heels, and not a homme so that you don't fluff the top. But more importantly I want 7c+ from at least one of BP and the Terrace.

Ru, what grade is Heartland at Gardoms getting?

[Ru]

I think both BP and the Terrace are going in at 7c+ now, but they will be at the bottom of the graded list.

Heartland is in at 7c+ cos the only person that I know that's done it apart from Kristian is Malc, and he said 7c+ according to Percy. If you have an opinion it would be welcome.

[ianfitz]

where is the terrace?

i'm a bit out of touch with all these new fangled problems...

[Johnny Brown]

terrace is a sit-down to the left of Jason's reach at burbage north. In a jumble of boulders 'tween remergence and spinx.

polls seem to be settling at Brad pit 7c, terrace 7c+. Democracy does work!!!!!!

[ianfitz]

Oh yes Know the line but not the name. I'd go with bottom end 7c+ If you're not having split grades.


Now is Heartland just over the fence toward the crag at Gardoms?  on a kind of large ledge type thing near some little quarry workings, towards the left hand side of the block


Or is that some thing else.

If so I have done it too. From what I remember I'd be very surprised at 7c+. But I'll take the tick

[Ru]

Heartland starts under the roof goes out to a vertical slot with your right hand, then a tricky move to the sloping top. There's a left hand variation that starts in the same place at 7a+ ish. I got rained off Heartland before I could do it, but I thought 7c+ was a bit generous too. Anyone else done it? 7c?

[Nigel]

Yes I done it. I thought it was definately 7c rather than 7c+. Certainly felt easier than the Terrace, and a lot easier than Full Power. Cool problem though, and the line to the left is good too.

[dave k]

I'm only voting for 7c 'cos there's no 7a+ button.

let's get voting for the really easy probs on the eaglestone

Could you confirm the hanging arete grade?- left of Welford`s dreaming the eagle. I guess it has had time and some for a few repeats. I gave it 7b+, interested in others take on it.

[Doylo]

hard 7c, easier than the pit defo

[a dense loner]

doylo's on about the terrace there i think