[tommytwotone]

As Fiend has opened the "unacceptable wall (proprietor) behaviour" door...a rant I was going to post recently after a visit to [wall name redacted] about modern gymnastic / run and jump / ninja warrior stylee setting.

It's not the setting itself - in fact I quite like it, and enjoy getting forced out of my comfort zone of 20 years of "grab and pull".

But please, pleeeeeaaassse - if you're setting this kind of thing, don't put the jump / balancey bit right over / around a load of V0 punter jugs, or even worse leave the space on the wall for said move, then subsequently set a load of V0 punter jugs in the space afterwards.

[Wall redacted] had 2 or 3 great problems of this style in the V5-7 range, every one of them totally ruined by having to negotiate your way round, avoid dabbing or mitigate the risk of spannering yourself on an adjacent easy problem's hold.

[mr chaz]

Please remove your very hard and very rolly water bottle death traps from the lovely soft(ish) mats 

[tommytwotone]

I've taken to just picking them up and taking them off the mats now.

[Fiend]

Btw I didn't start the unacceptable wall proprieter theme, I think that was petejh grumbling about the exhorbitant prices and funding OMM's fleet of Bentleys...

[Oldmanmatt]

There is a FB group called Routsetter’s anonymous.

It’s quite an interesting group, uniting setters and wall owners etc, worldwide. Often some interesting stuff.

Anyway, one Auzzie member just had a job application turned down at a new Melborne wall.

I fucking spat my tea!

I felt angry, let alone the applicant.

She posted a screen shot of her rejection email:

[Will Hunt]

Awww, the little lady's pretty head wouldn't understand the needs of the big strong men. Better off doing some knitting.

 

[UnkArl]

Shiiiiiit!!!

[AMorris]

bloody hell that is a grim read 

[bigironhorse]

 

[andy popp]

I hope she sues.

[Oldmanmatt]

I hope she sues.

A-friggin-men.

The thread:

🤯

[Fiend]

I predict an entire ostrich egg omelette on face for that wall...  Even regardless of the cringe-worthy sexism, it's perfectly possible for a good setter to set for a standard above their own and different body shapes with a bit of nouse and experience.

[sherlock]

Surely that can't be real?
An attempt at a joke? Someone not logged out and a 'mate' playing wind-up?
Either way a massive FFS.

[Oldmanmatt]

I note the original thread has been taken down.

[Paul B]

Surely that can't be real?

I take it you haven't seen Australian television?

[sherlock]

Ha, I see your point......

[tomtom]

Surely that can't be real?

I take it you haven't seen Australian television?

Which is alot better than it used to be...

But when I first watched Aussie TV 10-15 years back I was very surprised at the levels of casual racism and swearing that were on fairly prime time slots. Much of it comedy though (is sattire an excuse?) -  Fat Pizza is funny...

[winhill]

Only one wall shows up in Pascoe Vale , Gravity Worx and they posted this:

Gravity Worx
Yesterday at 05:23 ·
IMPORTANT NOTICE

Our Head Coach Moriah has been a victim of bullying through phone and email.

The circumstances are bizarre and we believe the bullying to be a nasty hoax!

We encourage climbers to not share the email screen shot that has been circulating as Coach Moriah has received concerning responses.

Coach Moriah explained that “I was contacted via phone with a job offer and then told I wasn’t good enough for the job as I am female! This kind of blatant bullying is never ok and no one could ever discourage me from Coaching and Route Setting because I absolutely LOVE my job. I’m just glad I have such a supportive community at Gravity Worx who have looked after me.”

That sound is the sound of white knights unsaddlling their chargers.

[crzylgs]

I didn't want to comment but it seemed very fake. Knowing a little bit about IT I know how easy it is to fake things like that. Either by spoofing/hacking an email account, Photo-shopping the image / screenshot, or things like text editing a web entry. Or as it turns out it could be a total hoax ala child on pile of coats in hospital. A photo tells 100 lies and all that.

Must have been a heck of a fun 5mins for the social media outrage junkies though! 

[spidermonkey09]

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/health/do-not-believe-a-stranger-on-social-media-who-disappears-into-the-night-an-open-letter-from-our-editor-to-you-1-10147697

Off topic, but Please see the above in relation to the boy in the hospital photo. It wasn't faked, and the contention that it was is fake news.

[SA Chris]

Back on topic, dickheads who are clearly into parkour or something getting halfway up a jughaul through roof on the bouldering area, and then doing a stupid backflip or something off a pair of jugs, then looking round to see if anyone is impressed. Then taking it in turns to see who can do the best landing. Just fuck off. And those super baggy cotton trackies make you look like a twat.

[Fiend]

Good call.

Also people who don't match the finishing holds and don't show the slightest bit of shame. Disgusting.

[Oldmanmatt]

I didn't want to comment but it seemed very fake. Knowing a little bit about IT I know how easy it is to fake things like that. Either by spoofing/hacking an email account, Photo-shopping the image / screenshot, or things like text editing a web entry. Or as it turns out it could be a total hoax ala child on pile of coats in hospital. A photo tells 100 lies and all that.

Must have been a heck of a fun 5mins for the social media outrage junkies though! 

But you’re wrong on both counts.

The boy on the coats? Not faked, fact checked and  Tory party chairman insisting all candidates that shared the fake “outing”, apologise.

The email to the female setter, was not the product of hacking, nor mocked up by her. The statement implies the entire job offer, phone call and email rejection, was an elaborate hoax.

I spoke/ messaged her before posting here, before she knew it was a hoax. The original set up, was that there was a new wall opening in the city and the phone call was to offer her the position at the new gym.

I am unclear as to why Winhill believes that the bullying and sexism is less valid, in this instance?

Or, why he thinks defending others is in any way to be deplored?

Perhaps you need to take a good hard look in the mirror? You come across as quite the scrooge.

[crzylgs]

You have successfully completely missed my point, which was:

After taking a mere glance at that picture there were a multitude of possibilities all of which were massively more likely than it being a legitimate reply, from a potential employer.

So I wasn't going to get reeled in to expressing my shock and outrage for something that seemed a little off. 

Some of the things I mentioned are just there for consideration or for educational purposes when ever presented with similar screenshots or images, with no real provable background. People should think and consider their legitimacy or purpose before jumping on the outrage bandwagon.

Thanks for pulling the ultimate argumentative power move of throwing a hail mary Ad hominem attack in my direction though, always a good tactic. Next time just call me a Nazi / Communist / Anti-semite there is no comeback from that sort of accusation

In no shape or manor did I condone this apparent hoax, which needless to say i do not, nor do i find it in the slightest bit amusing and hope if possible the idiots responsible face some kind of retribution for their actions! If anything I was passing judgment on those who were so eager to jump on the bandwagon they didn't stop to question it's authenticity - this class of person I can't help but find a little amusing.

[Oldmanmatt]

Hmmmm...

Nope.

You’re conflating the first part of  my post (response to you Crzylgs) and the second part which I addressed to Winhill.
Who deserved the ad hominem. It’s an Internet forum, plenty of that here.
On the other hand, your perpetuating of the loudly debunked (and apologised for) implication that the boy on the floor was a faked photo, is worthy of response.
In both cases you appear to have skimmed and dismissed, without digging, then jumped in with condemnation of people trying to help. Which is most certainly ad hominem, incidentally; since it was directed at me and the small group of wall owners who intervened to help. Three from the UK, including myself.
She was quite upset.

So, on balance, I think you can take your indignation and self righteous amusement and shove it where the sun don’t shine (it’s a small valley in the northern slopes of Snowdon, I’ll send you the grid ref).
I’m always happy to be be slagged off for trying to help someone in trouble, as am I happy to return such.