Come on, Shark. What route is it?
Quote from: Will Hunt on May 22, 2019, 07:29:23 pmCome on, Shark. What route is it?Ben's Roof?
1) are there any other options (such as clipping the bolt above and clipping yourself into the dead rope (tramlining some people call it)
I don't have a problem if there is a genuine case for it. There's plenty of old bolt litter around the crags that someone could offset the extra bolt by tidying up a nearby route.
In all seriousness though, if you're too embarrassed (or whatever) to name the route, then it sounds like it doesn't really need it
I put an extra bolt in Liquid Ambar on the crux.
So Ted - if we over drill the hole and promise to bang it home after( if requested) and plug is that ok?
I'd largely agree with Reeve on this, in that its justifiable but if other options exist should be avoided; if would really depend on the route: what / where is it?!
I think that there could be a case for it (I mean generally, not on blind date obvs) but it would be on a case by case basis and with a fairly high bar for what would constitute the right situation. Questions I would ask are:1) are there any other options (such as clipping the bolt above and clipping yourself into the dead rope (tramlining some people call it)
2) is working that section currently so difficult as to mean that you almost need a grade in hand to be able to effectively redpoint the route
3) if this is being suggested as a solution, how have people coped before? Is the route as a whole that badly bolted?
4) Is it <i>really</i> necessary or just a bit more convenient? (obviously this is a value judgement, but included to bring this into sharper focus)
Oh and 5) is it possible to get past it by climbing faster?
Quote from: TobyD on May 22, 2019, 11:40:02 pmI'd largely agree with Reeve on this, in that its justifiable but if other options exist should be avoided; if would really depend on the route: what / where is it?!It’s an established sport route. It’s a dogging bolt so it isn’t necessary. Why should it matter which route it is or where - it’s the principle no?