[grimer]

It looks like I will need to reprint Boulder Britain some time in the near / medium future.

I was just wondering if people are aware of any errors or updates etc that would need addressing from the current edition? Is there anywhere that is actually shitter than I have made it sound?

Any new problems that should really go in? (James Squire's new thing at Hartland got me thinking about this.)

I thought about adding a few Irish venues maybe. Are there any other venues that really should go in?

Anyway, feedback appreciated,

thankee,

Niall

[SA Chris]

Scotland

[tomtom]

Assuming you don’t want to make it much larger Grimer... for the York’s section I’d suggest cutting out a few of the NYMoors bits (some are quite esoteric iirc) and adding in a few more Yorkshire venues that don’t make the cut. I’m sure Will will have some suggestions. Wood house scar and west vale... needed?

I also remember there being a mistake with the problem/line labelling at Porth Ysgo...

nW wise. Cut heysham and maybe Hutton roof - add in Wilton’s and Blackstone edge (amazed it’s not in there)

That’s just some quick ideas/thoughts.

[dunnyg]

Westvale should be on the cover I think.

[Johnny Brown]

Hutton roof is such a righteous hangout on a late spring evening though, keep it in I say.

[Fiend]

Is there anywhere that is actually shitter than I have made it sound?

Scotland

 


On a more serious note, completely removing the Peak District and Yorkshire and replacing those sections with an equivalent sized section on Scotland might be warranted.

[spidermonkey09]

Is there anywhere that is actually shitter than I have made it sound?

You did a great job of making Rubicon sound shit...and yet, its actually shitter than that!

[grimer]

Thanks TomTom. I've a soft spot for Hutton Roof :-)

Could make it a wee bit bigger if needs be. I'd be slow to take somewhere out just cos it's esoteric, esp if there's nothing much else nearby. Have you visited Clemmitt's etc?

Thanks for feedback.

[SA Chris]

You need to at least include Torridon, seeings you are quoted in the guidebook.

[grimer]

Torridon is in!

[SA Chris]

Not proper like.

[fatneck]

Another shout for Blackstone Edge and probably Stony Edge too.

I've been to Clemmitts and a few other NYM's venues - I say leave them in...?

[grimer]

No, fair enough. The truth is if I had tried to do Scotland in the same way as everywhere else then BB would never have happened, I just didn't have it in me. So that's why the compromise.

[Bradders]

Good to hear Grimer, thanks for all your hard work!

Few thoughts:

I'd cut the NYM Bridestones and replace with Stoupe Brow, which is a far superior venue and a great location. You're also missing probably the best overall venue in the NYM; Ingleby Incline.

There must also be a place for the Eastern Lime. I know it's an acquired taste for some but you should at least have Anston in there (I presume access issues were a reason for excluding previously but this hasn't reared its head in ages). I'd replace Wetherby with Anston.

I've a soft spot for Woodhouse Scar and would definitely keep it in.

The Hepburn section needs a big update. Lots of very significant developments across the grade range which have turned it from a limited little venue into a proper destination to rival or even surpass the other County big hitters. Same goes for Simonside, which is now fully deserving of its own separate entry as opposed to being lumped together with Ravensheugh.

Pretty sure the whole of Wales will have been put out of date by the new dedicated guide but that's not my area of expertise.

Tintagel is due a big update since all the blocks were swept away and the subsequent development.

Woodwell needs a tweak now Tom's Buttress has fallen over. Would be good to include O'ert Road as well since access has been sorted and it's a lot better than the main area.

Carrock Fell is due a big update. Loads of harder things missing, most notably the stuff on the formerly disappointing boulder and Knight Rider and its variations.

I also think Kentmere is deserving of a more significant entry. Just the fact that it says "best from 4-7A" when it hosts one of the best 8As in the country is reason enough.

Would be good to include Harter Fell and Dow Crag too; both offer the best of a big Lakes day out in spectacular surroundings. Do appreciate however that there is a great big dedicated Lakes guide just around the corner...

I'd be very happy to help with words, photos, topos, etc. if you need it! I love UK bouldering and it's great to have a good summary in a single tome.

[joel182]

At Stanage, Satin is listed as a sitter. Surely not!

Heysham does seem like a strange inclusion to me, especially with the South Lakes stuff being so close.

Biblins Cave could be a nice inclusion for the Wye Valley area?

Dinas Rock gets presented with a lot of hype that it thoroughly fails to live up to.

[andy_e]

Take Almscliff out because everyone on here says it's shite.

[grimer]

Wow! lots to go on there Bradders, I'll need to wade through that.

I'll DM you about some of this when I get the chance,

thanks

[tomtom]

Anston and stoney edge yes yes.

Happy to help with NW/Lancs stuff if you need a hand Grimer.

[Fiend]

In all seriousness, making coverage of the honeypots slimmer and more austere and highlighting gems to spread the load a bit may be a good idea. Maybe.

[grimer]

Yea maybe Fiend, but there is a big lot of lesser-known stuff in there already, and people will still go to honeypots?

[Dave Flanagan]

I thought about adding a few Irish venues maybe.

Controversial! You will have to change the title unless you want to start WW3.

[webbo]

Thanks TomTom. I've a soft spot for Hutton Roof :-)

Could make it a wee bit bigger if needs be. I'd be slow to take somewhere out just cos it's esoteric, esp if there's nothing much else nearby. Have you visited Clemmitt's etc?

Thanks for feedback.

Clemmits in the woods is currently banned and as it isn’t on access land. It is hard to see that changing given the amount of traps and other game bird raring stuff that’s hidden there.

[Alex-the-Alex]

Woohoo! I loved the first one.
If there's space for more of Scotland Loch Buie might be a good addition? It's a lush spot, great rock and problems and the sort of place you might end up on holiday with the fam.

Roundhill or Ashhead might be good additions for North Yorkshire? Great little circuits and the chance of a shooting party lunch on the side.

[user deactivated]

Take Almscliff out because everyone on here says it's shite.

Talking sense there dude, but leave it in cos the zombies need somewhere to go

[BrutusTheBear]

  Are you sure you want to create all this extra work for yourself Grimer?

In Godrevy - ‘U R Hot’ is no more (it fell down), probably needs a new topo photo & the LPT boulder should be in.

Tintagel - Has had a reset (since the ‘apprentice’ and other boulders got washed away from the base of the boulder), a detailed topo for (the main attraction) the Purple Haze boulder with lots of squiggly lines would be cool. ‘Kids’ is no longer possible since the ‘apprentice’ got washed under it (you win some you lose some).

There has been loadsa development down in Kernowfornia.  Dreamboat etc. at Priest’s Cove is apparently very good.  The locals don’t seem that keen on sharing anything too wide, rumour has it someone is preparing a guide and I guess there maybe more to develop. Besides they don’t want no outziders coming down and spoiling their fun.

Hartland - Carnage wall and Acheball cave need the same treatment as the boulder at Tintagel.

Bonehill - The Wave needs the same and the current squiggly lines are wildly inaccurate. Tsunami, Peahi etc.. all should be in.

Saddle Tor - Needs updating with new lines from Sqwirl and Mikey C.

Lynmouth - The Giza block should be in.

There are outlying areas along the Exmoor Coast that may be worth a short write up.  (One absolute banger of an area that is only in condition in the summer months).

Gollum’s Cave - Waste of ink? I went once whilst my wife was at the uni, I found it, was part underwhelmed and part in fear for my life. I beat a hasty retreat.

Giblin’s - Replace Gollum’s with this.

Hurlstone Point - near Minehead, worth a shout for folk wanting to escape Butlin’s for some reliable, weather proof, non-tidal, steepness.