The grit climbed today was dry. About the only dry grit they could find.
However, hands up, we played it wrong on social media. The guys there were keen to tell people a bit about it, promote Steve Macs talk, with an earlier time due to the rain and get people to the pub where we had prebooked a load of food. However, out of context those posts did send out the wrong message, especially a snap of the guys on the Mod, so as soon as I saw them (no reception at crag/pub), I took that pic down. So it was all with the best of intentions, but we agree message looked wrong out of context, and we will put some things in place to make sure it doesn’t happen again.
Quote from: Offwidth on June 03, 2018, 01:21:51 amThe grit climbed today was dry. About the only dry grit they could find.There were pictures (now deleted) of blokes in cagoules climbing clearly drenched trad routes with the caption “nothing’s stopping these guys”.
I'm sticking with my view. The BMC also represents mountaineers and doing mod moves on the easier climbs/ harder scrambles in the wet or on wet rock is a normal climbing game for a bad weather day in the UK. You are not going to be breaking crucial holds on a mod and there is no three star mod on gritstone that we need to protect from the polish perspective (all the worst damage on lower grade grit 3 star routes was done with nailed boots on wet rock decades back). Protecting wet boulder problems (a good thing) by actively discouraging wet scrambles IS ridiculous.
I think the real issue here is that the social media posts were ill-judged because some fool somewhere is likely to get confused and not be able to make the distinction between a VDiff and a V3. I suspect also that a lot (not all) of the people who were posting their dismay on social media (Choss Collective for instance must have been over the moon that there was a controversial thing to post about) were 50% concerned about the rock and 50% delighted that a bandwagon to jump on had landed itself in their laps. A great opportunity to signal your virtue.
The issue is that there nuance in the situation which is lost on Instagram and therefore can be easily misconstrued.
Quote from: Will Hunt on June 04, 2018, 10:50:59 amI think the real issue here is that the social media posts were ill-judged because some fool somewhere is likely to get confused and not be able to make the distinction between a VDiff and a V3. I suspect also that a lot (not all) of the people who were posting their dismay on social media (Choss Collective for instance must have been over the moon that there was a controversial thing to post about) were 50% concerned about the rock and 50% delighted that a bandwagon to jump on had landed itself in their laps. A great opportunity to signal your virtue.You must need a big telescope to see down from your lofty pedestal Will!The issue is (as you rightly pointed out before having to score some points against lesser mortals) is that there nuance in the situation which is lost on Instagram and therefore can be easily misconstrued. It's not dissimilar to the pad stashing discussion previously - there has to be difference in between individual behaviour and the example and stance put forward by the BMC.