I'd sometimes struggle on those moves where you're nearly full extension and really pointing your toes and only the very tip of your toes are keep the tension, whereas an edged shoe helps a bit in this situation. Would be interested to hear what other opinions are though
ironically, for me that's one kind of thing they do ok to exceptionally well on certain kinds of footholds (tiny "smedges", and small protrusions), inclinations (near vertical) and when used correctly (really frontpointing with that portion of rubber that comes up towards the toe hooking part, heels fairly high)
In exactly the same position - miura VS's for the last 5 or so years and happy with them during the 'window', until they go a bit sloppy and become warm-up / trad shoes.
I didn't have great luck with speedsters or futuras. However, I think if you have patience they could work really well on rounded edges. For soft shoes I found the pythons to be a nice compromise, they aren't lined, but still have an edge.
Quote from: petejh on April 29, 2015, 05:17:34 pmIn exactly the same position - miura VS's for the last 5 or so years and happy with them during the 'window', until they go a bit sloppy and become warm-up / trad shoes.Do you know where the miura VS's end up stretching out for you? I found that many of my shoes blow out on the outer side of the toe-box. If this is the case, then solutions tend to stay "good" a bit longer, because of the rubber toe hooking pad they keep their structure a bit better.
Btw what's the sizing like on Pythons compared to Miuras, do they stretch much. I loved the Venoms - recall that you had to get them in ludicrously small sizes though.
I've been wearing the futura for a while and have mainly just been using them indoors as after about 45 mins of wearing them, the arch of my foot (towards the sole) really starts to ache.
Quote from: moose on April 30, 2015, 08:51:52 amBtw what's the sizing like on Pythons compared to Miuras, do they stretch much. I loved the Venoms - recall that you had to get them in ludicrously small sizes though.These days I wear the Pythons in the same size as Miura VSs, but I've worn them a full size smaller in the past.
I'd just like to point out that I started the three hottest topics on ukb - shoes, buy-to-let and JB's imminent metabolic disease.