[Plattsy]

I'll start of with this.
http://fellrunner.org.uk/pdf/FRA_Hypothermia.pdf
I think the photo on the front from the 2007 Edale Skyline says it all. Things can get pretty serious weather wise.

I got mild to moderate hypotermia running the Mickledon Straddle last year. I knew the route well and conditions seemed alright. I had a pertex windproof jacket. It's amazing just how different the conditions can be when you gain height. It wasn't proper grim but it was bad enough to start with the umbles. Luckily I didn't require the Woodhead MRT to help me any more than give me a lovely Sainsbury's taste the difference triple chocolate cookie. Lesson learnt.

Waterproofs - I have the Montane Minimus jacket and OMM Kaleiko trousers. I've ran in the jacket for 6 hours and the only annoying thing was the puddle that formed in my elbows from water collecting through the cuffs. It's light and waterproof and although can feel like a placky bag at times it's better than the alternative. The OMM trousers are great for quickly slipping on and off and provide a lot of warmth as well as being waterproof. When you are absolutely knackered being able to keep warm is very important. FRA rules state jackets should have a hood. They do a proper check at Langdale and not having a hood could easily mean you don't start. I've started races in full waterproof gear and seen many others do the same too. The gear might be a lot of money but it's designed to be run in. Not sure I'd want to run and great distance in my walking waterproofs. Go try them all on and see what you think.

Shoes - Never tried Walshes. They're low profile and have good studs so if they fit your feet they'll be great. I have Innov8 Mudclaw 330s. Pretty comfy and good studs. Ideal for wet/steep mud, grass and rock. Can't go wrong but certainly not cheap. Also got Salomon FellRaiser. These are probably great on Alpine gravel paths but less so on wet mud, grass and rock. Quite scary how they slide and then grip on wet gritstone. I've renamed mine TrailRaiser and leave them for trails. Again lots to choose from. If you're running in the peat bogs of the Peak something with long studs and plenty of space between them is best to help evacuate the mud. In the Lakes on gravel and scree you might be alright with something less aggressive. Comfort is important and go to a shop with one of those inclines particularly to test running downhill. Don't want to be jamming toes into the end of the shoes. I go a full size up in fell shoes.

Socks - If it's cold and wet. Merino wool socks. These will keep your feet warm when wet but they do have a limit. 30 mins trotting through a Scottish bog was their limit for me. For something like The Trigger quite a few folk wear seal skins socks.

Gloves - In Winter some folk wear big waterproof ski gloves like Big Ron. Too hot for me. I have normal running gloves and if it's really wet I have some gore-tex shell mitts to put over the top. Falling over and getting soaking wet gloves in the middle of Winter isn't fun.

Headgear - Buffs are great or a thin "warm-day" ski hat.

Lots of equipment chat here.
http://forum.fellrunner.org.uk/forumdisplay.php?6-Equipment

Regarding the Langdale Horseshoe I'm not sure how they will determine race experience. The Edale Skyline ask for results from two AL races from the last 2 years and so can check online and verify experience but the same request doesn't appear on the Ambleside AC website. Perhaps the kit check marshalls will ask a probing question or two.

Training wise I would get to a local fell race as soon as possible to get a feel for it. If then you're still keen as then I'd suggest you find the biggest local hill and fall in love with running/walking to the top many, many times over.

You will twist your ankles at some point.
You will get beaten by a some gnarly old dude and potentially dudette.
You will have some great senses of achievement.
Enjoy.

[Monolith]

A goldmine of amazing information as always. Huge thanks again UKBers! All being well, I'll be registering this week and training starts at 6am tomorrow.

Keen to hear tales/see pictures from all of your adventures.

[SA Chris]

"My wife hurt herself on an fitness holiday in the Lake District"
"Fell Running?"
"Yes, I told her to be more careful"

Very Very sorry.

[bigtuboflard]

A goldmine of amazing information as always. Huge thanks again UKBers! All being well, I'll be registering this week and training starts at 6am tomorrow.

Keen to hear tales/see pictures from all of your adventures.

You could put yourself down for the Totley Exterminator in about a months time, be a good bench mark for you towards Langdale, plus if your lucky I'll be marshalling so can heckle at a suitably difficult moment. Plattsy might even be racing too! Here's the race details

http://www.totleyac.org.uk/2014Series/exterminator.htm

[mini]

Keen to hear tales/see pictures from all of your adventures.

I you want some pics, you could have a browse at these. I was signed up to do Coniston but my achilles had other ideas  so instead I went up for a walk and watch the pro's in action (it was the second round of the English Championships) and get some snaps. Might give a feel for the usual procession of runners at the start of the first climb. It doesn't take long for them all to thin out! It's impressive to see how quickly these guys descend - no sooner do you see the first spots coming over the top of The Old Man and they are down on the lower slopes steaming past. Certainly a skill to learn!

I also toke some of these of the first Peak Skyrace last weekend. Its a 30 miler from Buxton over the Roaches and back round via few other trig points, with around 2000m of ascent. Bugger that for a game of soldiers!!!

[fatdoc]

Can't decide whether this is YYFY or NNFN,

So, as the most relevant thread ATM  to my outdoor life here goes..

Just spent 3 days house bound with acute on chronic back pain.. And being vastly impressed by the local ( but regionally well appreciated) chiropractor.. I'm more pysched to get out running than punter bouldering or DH MTB, in a country with no chair lifts.. SOOO hoping to run as soon as I can.. This thread is pure UKB class.. Thanks for the inspiration everyone!!

[chris20]

A goldmine of amazing information as always. Huge thanks again UKBers! All being well, I'll be registering this week and training starts at 6am tomorrow.

Keen to hear tales/see pictures from all of your adventures.

You could put yourself down for the Totley Exterminator in about a months time, be a good bench mark for you towards Langdale, plus if your lucky I'll be marshalling so can heckle at a suitably difficult moment. Plattsy might even be racing too! Here's the race details

http://www.totleyac.org.uk/2014Series/exterminator.htm

Yeah the Exterminator is a great race, well worth doing.  I think plattsy said he was going to be keeping the bar in the cricket inn company this year....

[Duma]

Some of those sky race pics are lovely mini, really like this one:
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/32044606@N03/14839632693/

[Stabbsy]

Some cracking shots there. The guy at the front in this one was the series winner in the NY Moors series over last winter (Jayson Cavill) - I think he ended up winning the Peak Sky Race in the end.

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/32044606@N03/14633815170/

Just back from this week's instalment of the Moors summer series - narrowly missed out on my first win after 5 or 6 people in front of me made route choice errors, but got passed on the last descent and couldn't close down in the final km. Can't complain though, 2nd place and 2 more bottles of wine to add to the prize cupboard!

[psychomansam]

Keen to hear tales/see pictures from all of your adventures.

I you want some pics, you could have a browse at these. I was signed up to do Coniston but my achilles had other ideas  so instead I went up for a walk and watch the pro's in action (it was the second round of the English Championships) and get some snaps. Might give a feel for the usual procession of runners at the start of the first climb. It doesn't take long for them all to thin out! It's impressive to see how quickly these guys descend - no sooner do you see the first spots coming over the top of The Old Man and they are down on the lower slopes steaming past. Certainly a skill to learn!

I also toke some of these of the first Peak Skyrace last weekend. Its a 30 miler from Buxton over the Roaches and back round via few other trig points, with around 2000m of ascent. Bugger that for a game of soldiers!!!

Some really nice shots there. I'm doing a similar race to the Skyrace this Saturday and am amused by looking at shots of rather fooked runners walking uphill in apparent excruciation. Oh dear. That's going to be me.

And habrich, you might be right about the weight gain, at least in people who aren't losing fat at the same time (I currently am). But I'm actually more motivated to push myself to run further, than to climb harder.

[nai]

You could put yourself down for the Totley Exterminator in about a months time, be a good bench mark for you towards Langdale, plus if your lucky I'll be marshalling so can heckle at a suitably difficult moment. Plattsy might even be racing too! Here's the race details

http://www.totleyac.org.uk/2014Series/exterminator.htm

A month away? Balls, that's snuck up as quickly as my running has tailed off, I'm still thinking it's ages away and I have loads of time like I'm back in April.  School holidays and a dry Cornice haven't helped the mileage at all.  Have it reccied as far as Stanage and back from Padley, just the fiddly middle bit if I can make it out.

[fatdoc]

Probably a huge faux pas in terms of fell running... Apologies.. But this event has some killer running sections and minimal difficulty in relative terms obstacles. I was ill last year, so didn't run it. I've been told the 8km is much harder than most 10km events of this nature. I'm entering.

http://www.endurerevents.co.uk/endurer-dash-2014/

It's local to the peak.

[bigtuboflard]

You could put yourself down for the Totley Exterminator in about a months time, be a good bench mark for you towards Langdale, plus if your lucky I'll be marshalling so can heckle at a suitably difficult moment. Plattsy might even be racing too! Here's the race details

http://www.totleyac.org.uk/2014Series/exterminator.htm

A month away? Balls, that's snuck up as quickly as my running has tailed off, I'm still thinking it's ages away and I have loads of time like I'm back in April.  School holidays and a dry Cornice haven't helped the mileage at all.  Have it reccied as far as Stanage and back from Padley, just the fiddly middle bit if I can make it out.

Exactly a month today! Best put some miles in and get the leg through Hathersage recce'd...

[fatdoc]

And habrich, you they might be right about the weight gain, at least in people who aren't losing fat at the same time (I currently am). But I'm actually more motivated to push myself to run further, than to climb harder.

Not my opinion, but I think that podcast is full of interesting contrary stuff so I will probably keep posting the link to anything vaguely relevant. For the record, I think fell running is very impressive - though it is not for me.

My main observation about running generally is that there seem to be a lot of people my age with fucked knees ...

I hear you, being even older and starting running in a semi organised way  only 9 months ago. Very very much a case of slow progression, and as little Tarmac as you can. Once my body got over the shock of the intensity of the exercise.. It's  just  now a little easier, and very very addictive. I have to say, I'm no fell runner, just one of those darn obstacle course Luddites that loves a bit of training and then the over the top events of X runner, total warrior and hopefully tough mudder next year. I appreciate this is not fell running, but it's a rite larf for a noob!!

Sorry to pollute the thread with heresy, but I'd wager there a fair few runners on here that would have a good time at such events, I don't mean the clearly experienced and talented fell runners, but peeps like me that find the usual entry level 10km runs either boring or over structured. yet not fit enough to pure fell run... Yet...

I've learnt a shed load from this thread, no offence intended.

[Plattsy]

A goldmine of amazing information as always. Huge thanks again UKBers! All being well, I'll be registering this week and training starts at 6am tomorrow.

Keen to hear tales/see pictures from all of your adventures.

You could put yourself down for the Totley Exterminator in about a months time, be a good bench mark for you towards Langdale, plus if your lucky I'll be marshalling so can heckle at a suitably difficult moment. Plattsy might even be racing too! Here's the race details

http://www.totleyac.org.uk/2014Series/exterminator.htm

Yeah the Exterminator is a great race, well worth doing.  I think plattsy said he was going to be keeping the bar in the cricket inn company this year....

I'm baking cake for the snap table and might sink a couple of pints whilst the runners come in.

Fatdoc - if you can run 10km you'd be fine running a short summer evening fell race of around 4/5 miles. theTrunce is a good introductory race and its run 9 times through the Summer. plus it costs less than half a fuck all.
http://fellrunner.org.uk/races.php?id=2854

[Monolith]

Had my first hill sprints session tonight after receiving details from a very keen running mate. It nearly ended me. Keen to go again though and keep moving onwards. Really appreciate all of the contributions in this thread thanks again all.

I'm on a shit screen smartphone but in the jacket stakes, I found this:

http://www.decathlon.co.uk/eliorain-running-jacket-id_8312454.html

Looks ok for the money and would do me as an about town jacket when the inevitable Mersey storm comes into town.

[bigtuboflard]

Might see you after the marshalling the Plattsy depending on where I get posted.

In at the deep end too Monolith! Hill sprints aren't for the faint hearted.

Oh, and that jacket looks like a more than reasonable starting point, waterproof, hood, presumably taped seams too. Assuming it packs down reasonably small and it doesn't weigh the equivalent of a house bring it'll be fine.

[fatdoc]

A goldmine of amazing information as always. Huge thanks again UKBers! All being well, I'll be registering this week and training starts at 6am tomorrow.

Keen to hear tales/see pictures from all of your adventures.

You could put yourself down for the Totley Exterminator in about a months time, be a good bench mark for you towards Langdale, plus if your lucky I'll be marshalling so can heckle at a suitably difficult moment. Plattsy might even be racing too! Here's the race details

http://www.totleyac.org.uk/2014Series/exterminator.htm

Yeah the Exterminator is a great race, well worth doing.  I think plattsy said he was going to be keeping the bar in the cricket inn company this year....

I'm baking cake for the snap table and might sink a couple of pints whilst the runners come in.

Fatdoc - if you can run 10km you'd be fine running a short summer evening fell race of around 4/5 miles. theTrunce is a good introductory race and its run 9 times through the Summer. plus it costs less than half a fuck all.
http://fellrunner.org.uk/races.php?id=2854

Nice one

[nai]

You could put yourself down for the Totley Exterminator in about a months time, be a good bench mark for you towards Langdale, plus if your lucky I'll be marshalling so can heckle at a suitably difficult moment. Plattsy might even be racing too! Here's the race details

http://www.totleyac.org.uk/2014Series/exterminator.htm

A month away? Balls, that's snuck up as quickly as my running has tailed off, I'm still thinking it's ages away and I have loads of time like I'm back in April.  School holidays and a dry Cornice haven't helped the mileage at all.  Have it reccied as far as Stanage and back from Padley, just the fiddly middle bit if I can make it out.

Exactly a month today! Best put some miles in and get the leg through Hathersage recce'd...

Turns out I can't do it now, Mrs has reluctantly accepted a late opportunity to speak at a conference that weekend.  On the basis of last night's run it's probably a good job.  Oh well, it's been fun reccying it, I've seen a lot of Blacka and Totley moor that I wouldn't have otherwise.

[psychomansam]

Had my first hill sprints session tonight after receiving details from a very keen running mate. It nearly ended me. Keen to go again though and keep moving onwards. Really appreciate all of the contributions in this thread thanks again all.

I'm on a shit screen smartphone but in the jacket stakes, I found this:

http://www.decathlon.co.uk/eliorain-running-jacket-id_8312454.html

Looks ok for the money and would do me as an about town jacket when the inevitable Mersey storm comes into town.

Check for taped seams and check the fit. Won't be as light or breathable perhaps as the top money ones, but that doesn't matter so much as long as, as said above, it's not made of lead.

Their last 'fully waterproof' jacket (currently available half price) seemed pretty good apart from two large air vents on the back which you couldn't close. Didn't fancy trying to get it through a kit check. This one looks more sensible! (FWIW, I thought the vents were  a great idea, but they need zips!)

[psychomansam]

A goldmine of amazing information as always. Huge thanks again UKBers! All being well, I'll be registering this week and training starts at 6am tomorrow.

Keen to hear tales/see pictures from all of your adventures.

You could put yourself down for the Totley Exterminator in about a months time, be a good bench mark for you towards Langdale, plus if your lucky I'll be marshalling so can heckle at a suitably difficult moment. Plattsy might even be racing too! Here's the race details

http://www.totleyac.org.uk/2014Series/exterminator.htm

Yeah the Exterminator is a great race, well worth doing.  I think plattsy said he was going to be keeping the bar in the cricket inn company this year....

I'm baking cake for the snap table and might sink a couple of pints whilst the runners come in.

Fatdoc - if you can run 10km you'd be fine running a short summer evening fell race of around 4/5 miles. theTrunce is a good introductory race and its run 9 times through the Summer. plus it costs less than half a fuck all.
http://fellrunner.org.uk/races.php?id=2854

Nice one on the baking. There's about 4 long races I want to do that weekend, but it's very close to my dissertation deadline so I don't think it's justifiable!

+1 regarding Fatdoc. If you can walk uphill and if you can run 10k, you can fell run. Get on with it.

[duncan]

You're all mad.

http://www.decathlon.co.uk/eliorain-running-jacket-id_8312454.html

Looks ok for the money and would do me as an about town jacket when the inevitable Mersey storm comes into town.

No weight given but £45 and £101.53/kg suggests about 440g.

If you're interested I have an Marmot Precip jacket, size medium, 350g, taped seams, pit zips,  in a fetching olive green. There is a tiny tear to the front (repaired) and a little delamination around the base of the hood. £10 donation to the Dorset Bolt Fund.

[Monolith]

In at the deep end too Monolith! Hill sprints aren't for the faint hearted.

I realised this when I nearly passed out on the final rep. Luckily I live on the side of a big long hill so it's a short commute to the training ground. Can't wait to get a few of these sessions under my belt as they certainly seem to work you hard!

Duncan that's very kind of you. I will pm you now.

Loving those photos previously submitted!

[bigtuboflard]

Great run from Hathersage up on to Win Hill, down Hope Brink to Hope Cross and down to Edale station for the train home. Just short of ten miles but a great route on mostly open countryside when you get up out the valley. Had planned to skirt round up to the east end of Kinder but decided to try and catch the earlier train. Don't often do point to point runs but they do open up a load more options. Might have to think of a few more. 

[GCW]

Anyone else looking to enter the UTLD 100/ 50 next year? How tight are TES on the 100 entries?