Can't see why heart rate is a good proxy for calories burnt myself and think it would be a pretty poor proxy really.I think a better method would be to weigh yourself and gauge some estimate of the height you gain in a given session and work out how much energy is needed to raise the weight that distance. Making some way of "weighting" this proportionally by the inclination of the surface being climbed on might be useful too.Quick searching revealed this on measuring calories burnt whilst cycling.A more academicly focused search using Google Scholar found..."Rock climbing gyms are easy to find. Just 30 minutes of rock climbing will burn 374 calories"...and an alternative search threw up...Energy expenditure and physiological responses during indoor rock climbing. Br J Sports Med 1997;31:224-228 doi:10.1136/bjsm.31.3.224 (Full PDF)
Trying to read those papers just used about 40calories of brain power.
It seemed to conclude that its the equivalent of fast paced walking
Quote from: Fadanoid on June 10, 2014, 01:55:39 pmTrying to read those papers just used about 40calories of brain power. The brain is greedyQuote from: Fadanoid on June 10, 2014, 01:55:39 pmIt seemed to conclude that its the equivalent of fast paced walkingThey also note that "Psychological stress may also be a consideration in the understanding of H[eart] R[ate] responses during rock climbing"
I always wear my HRM and GPS watch when running and its a pretty good way I think of tracking effort (PTE) and calories burned. I've used Suunto's Movescount for a while now and I think its about as good as you can hope for in terms of tracking exercise; heck if someone like Killian Jornet uses it its good enough for me. Latest race here out of interest;http://www.movescount.com/moves/move33182151For some reason I've never worn it down the wall though, but I should be down the Climbing Works this Friday so will wear it then and upload results. You should be able to see clearly between the "bits I am trying hard" and the "sat down drinking tea reading old OTE's".
Quote from: bigtuboflard on June 10, 2014, 02:20:50 pmI always wear my HRM and GPS watch when running and its a pretty good way I think of tracking effort (PTE) and calories burned. I've used Suunto's Movescount for a while now and I think its about as good as you can hope for in terms of tracking exercise; heck if someone like Killian Jornet uses it its good enough for me. Latest race here out of interest;http://www.movescount.com/moves/move33182151For some reason I've never worn it down the wall though, but I should be down the Climbing Works this Friday so will wear it then and upload results. You should be able to see clearly between the "bits I am trying hard" and the "sat down drinking tea reading old OTE's".Yeah, let me know how you get on. That's the sort of thing I'm after knowing.
Quote from: Fadanoid on June 10, 2014, 01:55:39 pmTrying to read those papers just used about 40calories of brain power. The brain is greedyQuote from: Fadanoid on June 10, 2014, 01:55:39 pmIt seemed to conclude that its the equivalent of fast paced walkingThey say they found that energy expenditures was increased to the equivalent of running at between 8-11 minutes/mile from the tests they did (three climbs of increasing difficulty (5.6 at 90o; 5.9 at 106o; 5.11+ at 151o on a 6.35m wall for five minutes, no resting), steeper climb equated to higher energy expenditure (unsurprisingly). Slightly more than a fast paced walk (for me at least).They also note that "Psychological stress may also be a consideration in the understanding of H[eart] R[ate] responses during rock climbing"The sample size was quite small in this work though.
I think a better method would be to weigh yourself and gauge some estimate of the height you gain in a given session and work out how much energy is needed to raise the weight that distance. Making some way of "weighting" this proportionally by the inclination of the surface being climbed on might be useful too.
If your 190 is high for a fit 40 year old where does that leave me hiting 180 plus several times a session at 59. I haven't gone for max in a while.
Thats intresting that you are burning that many cals. I find that although climbing can make me feel battered, aerobic stuff completly destroys me at times. But looking at some Sportives I did last year 100 miles done in 6 hours give or take a few mins. I'm burning 5,000 plus cals with average H/R rate around 150 with a max of 185.So 900 cals an hour which sort makes bouldering a rest.