I know it wasn't just me. Gavin - I was in quite a tolerant mood actually, if he'd caught me on a bad day, I'd have been having strong words and giving the dog short shrift. The same guy/dog was at Horseshit a couple of weeks ago, same story. The owners twattish behavior was exemplified when he bellowed "Fuuuucccckkk Yoouuu" at the top of his voice after failing near the top of clarion call at the end of the evening. As I understand it, I think its the Derbyshire Wildlife trust that own the woods/dale, which is a SSSI. Climbers are tolerated and I think the likes of Kris and the BMC access reps have had long discussions with regards the placing of bolts/unsightly belay chains etc etc. Behaviour like this does not do our kind any favours what so ever.
Sounds like the owner is the twat not the dog. Did anyone tell him to sort it out.I have had dogs all my life so used to them and I like to see dogs running about having fun rather than being tied up and personally dont think its a big deal, mine is rarely on the lead. They are out having there fun whilst we have ours. Its a pain if your food gets nicked but funny if its your mates.And i really do think there is no comparison to the environmental impact of them chasing a few ducks, catching the odd rabbit, or jumping in the river, to the damage humans do. I have never seen them leaving rubbish anywhere for a start.
And i really do think there is no comparison to the environmental impact of them chasing a few ducks
https://www.derbyshirewildlifetrust.org.uk/nature-reserves/chee-daleSomething about dogs on this link and on the sign posts at the station.They obviously don't mind dogs walking on the path unleashed as the reserve manager has an untethered dog but they and the water bailiff have been very vocal with people that let their dogs enter the river.
Quote from: gme on June 29, 2018, 08:30:42 amAnd i really do think there is no comparison to the environmental impact of them chasing a few ducksAt this time of year some ducks are likely to be nesting or have dependent young, so a dog could easily wipe out the next generation. Disturbance by humans, while unwelcome, isn't going have such a direct affect.
Quote from: GazM on June 29, 2018, 09:30:28 amQuote from: gme on June 29, 2018, 08:30:42 amAnd i really do think there is no comparison to the environmental impact of them chasing a few ducksAt this time of year some ducks are likely to be nesting or have dependent young, so a dog could easily wipe out the next generation. Disturbance by humans, while unwelcome, isn't going have such a direct affect.Thats the problem with peoples idea of the environment, its all about the fluffy little critters. If a dog was to catch a duck (that rarely happens) and wipe out a generation the impact is absolutely minimal and balance would be restored in a matter of years. But its very visual.Humans driving out there. going down the dale, polluting the river via the fields or sewage works (all of Buxtons sewage goes in the river, i wouldn't drink it), the other pollution linked to the production of all the climbing gear we use etc etc. has a million times more effect than anything a dog can do. And cars are the biggest killer of wildlife in the UK by a long long way.
I wouldn't underestimate the environmental impact of dogs - where does the food for these carnivores come from?
polluting the river via the fields or sewage works (all of Buxtons sewage goes in the river, i wouldn't drink it)