[JR]

Anyone know why odeon.co.uk doesnt work with firefox?

think its something to do with java.

[Bubba]

Have you downloaded the java plugin for Firefox?

Some sites won't work with Firefox, which is shit considering it's one of the most standards-compliant browsers. I just avoid those sites or use IE as a last resort. (or even the firefox "view as ie" plugin).

[JR]

yeah yeah got the plug in

just a shit website then.  Got the view as IE thing aswell

[JR]

also can you get it to bring up the description of an image on mouse over like in IE?

[Bubba]

I think it depends how it's coded - if the image uses an html alt tag, then Firefox will show the tag on mouseover as normal.

If it uses some IE only thing then that's probably why.

[Kim]

also can you get it to bring up the description of an image on mouse over like in IE?

no. i read about this. apparently the code in IE that makes it do this is non-standards compliant or something and it shouldn't really do it - so firefox doesn't.

[Kim]

no. i read about this. apparently the code in IE that makes it do this is non-standards compliant or something and it shouldn't really do it - so firefox doesn't.

and so you miss all dave's witty one liners on our site  :roll:

[JR]

bloody hell kim you only had to walk downstairs to tell me that you lazy git.

Some one should write an extension for it though

[Bubba]

Better that people try to write websites that stick to standards rather than write browser extensions that can read their poor code innit?

[the_dom]

What's the difference (if any) between Firefox and "normal" Mozilla?

I'm using Moz 1.6 (I think at home), which is great, but I do have to use IE for some sites.

[Bubba]

Firefox is an in-development sub-project of Mozilla and is the next version of Mozilla's brower.

When Firefox reaches version 1.0 it will replace Mozilla Navigator as the browser component of the Mozilla suite.

[jonP]

also can you get it to bring up the description of an image on mouse over like in IE?

no. i read about this. apparently the code in IE that makes it do this is non-standards compliant or something and it shouldn't really do it - so firefox doesn't.

Being a rather sad and pathetic web geek I can answer this.  In fact it has nothing to do with standards, it's just an extra feature that IE has compared to Mozilla.  But like everything, there's a plug-in for it:

http://texturizer.net/firefox/extensions/#popupalt

[Bubba]

It's sort of to do with standards - the alt tag was devised as an alternative textual element to be displayed in text browsers or when images are turned off.

The "tooltips" should really be specified in the title tag, but since IE and other browsers have always made a tooltip out of the alt tag, it's stuck.

Firefox only uses the title tag for tooltips by default, as this is the desired behaviour. That said, it would hardly hurt to display the alt as a tooltip as well would it?

[JR]

also can you get it to bring up the description of an image on mouse over like in IE?

no. i read about this. apparently the code in IE that makes it do this is non-standards compliant or something and it shouldn't really do it - so firefox doesn't.

Being a rather sad and pathetic web geek I can answer this.  In fact it has nothing to do with standards, it's just an extra feature that IE has compared to Mozilla.  But like everything, there's a plug-in for it:

http://texturizer.net/firefox/extensions/#popupalt

Good skills...

Maybe ill write an extension to get the odeon page toi work, give me something to do now i cant climb!

[samJ]

Talking about extensions, try this one....

http://jedbrown.net/mozilla/extensions/#BBCode

BBCode - provides a right click menu which can paste all those [ b ] stuff into text boxes. I copied the above link from the site into clipboard and then right clicked -> Make clipboard into URL and it pasted the whole eall[/size]y cool for forum posting like this one.

[samJ]

Oh, and I just remembered the whole image text thing...

Two of the attributes the IMG tag can have are ALT and TITLE. ALT is meant to be used as an alternative if the image is not displayed, and TITLE is the title of the image, however IE shows to ALT text as a mini-popup as described (or possibly the TITLE if its available), while Mozilla only displays the TITLE as a mini-popup if available (unless you get the extension above that is).

Hope this helps. (Oh, and the odeon site is just crap - its javascript tastic and I really couldn't be bothered to work out why it didn't work)

[Obi-Wan is lost...]

JR, The Odeon website is notoriously badly designed. Much too heavily dependant on Java.

To such an extent that someone has completely redesigned it:

http://www.dracos.co.uk/odeon/
Everything works except the online booking.

This guy (Matthew Sommerville) has some interesting things to say about web design amongst other things ( and the article on terrorism is worth reading too)

http://www.dracos.co.uk/

[JR]

word

[JR]

out of all the sites he lists though its only odeon that doenst work at all.  Pretty shit if you ask me.  They must know they have a wack website.

DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT ODEON!! :bash:

[Bubba]

Firefox 0.92 is out - remember to fully uninstall your current version before installing the new one.

[Avoiding the Traitor]

Bloody hell .. newer version already  !!

What is the difference?

[Bubba]

0.91 is more stable than 0.90 and handles extensions better, and 0.92 is just a fix to a security issue.

[Bubba]

out of all the sites he lists though its only odeon that doenst work at all.  Pretty shit if you ask me.  They must know they have a wack website.

DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT ODEON!! :bash:

See this:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/14/odeon_disabled_website/

[JR]

thats wack

[Bubba]

http://cgi.deepsea.force9.co.uk/cgi-bin/odeon.pl