Quote from: slackline on August 15, 2013, 06:23:50 pmQuote from: Johnny Brown on August 15, 2013, 06:00:49 pmWhich coming from climbers, whose hobby involves assessing risk, is disappointing.Very different scales of risk though, skills in one may not be directly transferable to the other.Just to chip in, the classic economic formula for calculating risk is Risk = probability(from 0-1) x cost
Quote from: Johnny Brown on August 15, 2013, 06:00:49 pmWhich coming from climbers, whose hobby involves assessing risk, is disappointing.Very different scales of risk though, skills in one may not be directly transferable to the other.
Which coming from climbers, whose hobby involves assessing risk, is disappointing.
Quote from: tomtom on August 15, 2013, 06:45:26 pmQuote from: slackline on August 15, 2013, 06:23:50 pmQuote from: Johnny Brown on August 15, 2013, 06:00:49 pmWhich coming from climbers, whose hobby involves assessing risk, is disappointing.Very different scales of risk though, skills in one may not be directly transferable to the other.Just to chip in, the classic economic formula for calculating risk is Risk = probability(from 0-1) x costI was thinking more along the lines of time-scales...
Humans are very good at assessing risk in a situation where the outcome has immediate (or short-term) consequences
UK has freak tsunamis every now and then due to plate tectonics.
Chris - the Canaries mega tsunami theories have recently been debunked my Tusnami/Landslide/Volcanologist colleague tells me (there were mega landslides, but earlier studies cocked up the tsunami estimation)..
In 1982 Salter invented the idea of a mechanical "duck" which bobbed on the ocean and generated electricity. But the government shut down the UK Wave Energy programme, arguing that his invention would be too expensive to develop further.It emerged later that civil servants in the nuclear power division of the energy department had "miscalculated" by a factor of 10 the estimated cost of energy production, possibly setting back British wave energy research by 20 years.
. Suddenly fracking seems alot less suitable as a stop gap... Coal is definitly not the answer, nuclear is far too lagging as is development in RE, does this mean we've fucked it?
There are technical solutions readily available; use cars less, use the train, feet, bike, car pool, hybrid bus more. Reduce commuting distance if possible. Buy local produce, be a considerate consumer, reduce, reuse, recycle etc etc etc. If everyone in the UK did this and/or was encouraged to do it more by making it more palatable (by either financial sticks or carrots) then our dependency on fossil fuels would be drastically reduced.
Bowden Doors is effected at the minute and everyone is up in arms many of whom only go there a few times a year. To me it seams a perfect place to put one, low density population and fucking windy as anyone who climbs there can testify. If they can prove that they work (jury out) then they should be able to build them there.Planning laws need changing and the energy policy needs to be decided by non political bodies who can see further than the next general election. What ever we do to benefit the future has little chance of benefiting our generation but we have to get on with it, pay for it and live with the cost.
Fultonius, the "government" aren't that smart or sophisticated enough to organise any energy policy, never mind one that was a stitchup in favour of gas.