[Johnny Brown]

Aye I'd agree with all that - if these sites are to be useful they need some (occasionally strong) moderation.

Having visited, I did argue strongly that Beeley hilltop should not be put in the guide bar a note, but the discoverers won the day. Folk do tend to lose objectivity where their own problems are concerned. The cry of elitism is never far away when a good climber dares criticise someone's pet twaddle crag.

[Moo]

ELITISM 

[Bolter]

I've only once retro claimed a route but that was because I had previously climbed an established route but in my mind by only a slight variant, on the right rather than left. Years later, we are talking 10 or more, it is claimed as a new route. I am slightly surprised so retro claim it it. It seems that due to limited rock standards have changed as to what people see as av new line!

[Banana finger]

I posted about this ages ago.................

[andy_e]

Yeah, but I found this topic, cleaned it and did it even before that.