There really is no need if this is the case.We are happy to pick up the site and have said so previously.We can start from scratch if there is a demand but it seems a duplicated waste of effort to do so for users who have contributed.
For what it's worth I think you'd be better starting from scratch with a DB that isn't limited to one area (such as Yorkshire), that way it can expand and grow, much in the way the UKC database has done (but with greater functionality). Allowing user input and 'some' users moderation rights should keep data maintenance to a minimum, it's only the framework that'd take some time (any PHP/MySQL pros on here?). /2p
Quote from: shark on January 06, 2014, 09:29:38 amThere really is no need if this is the case.We are happy to pick up the site and have said so previously.We can start from scratch if there is a demand but it seems a duplicated waste of effort to do so for users who have contributed.For what it's worth I think you'd be better starting from scratch with a DB that isn't limited to one area (such as Yorkshire), that way it can expand and grow, much in the way the UKC database has done (but with greater functionality). Allowing user input and 'some' users moderation rights should keep data maintenance to a minimum, it's only the framework that'd take some time (any PHP/MySQL pros on here?). /2p
Mining the wayback machine ain't a decent idea; you'd spend about fourteen years of your life trying to parse the html into data, time which would be better spent.
You can't parse [X]HTML with regex. Because HTML can't be parsed by regex. Regex is not a tool that can be used to correctly parse HTML. As I have answered in HTML-and-regex questions here so many times before, the use of regex will not allow you to consume HTML. Regular expressions are a tool that is insufficiently sophisticated to understand the constructs employed by HTML. HTML is not a regular language and hence cannot be parsed by regular expressions. Regex queries are not equipped to break down HTML into its meaningful parts. so many times but it is not getting to me. Even enhanced irregular regular expressions as used by Perl are not up to the task of parsing HTML. You will never make me crack. HTML is a language of sufficient complexity that it cannot be parsed by regular expressions. Even Jon Skeet cannot parse HTML using regular expressions. Every time you attempt to parse HTML with regular expressions, the unholy child weeps the blood of virgins, and Russian hackers pwn your webapp. Parsing HTML with regex summons tainted souls into the realm of the living. HTML and regex go together like love, marriage, and ritual infanticide. The <center> cannot hold it is too late. The force of regex and HTML together in the same conceptual space will destroy your mind like so much watery putty. If you parse HTML with regex you are giving in to Them and their blasphemous ways which doom us all to inhuman toil for the One whose Name cannot be expressed in the Basic Multilingual Plane, he comes. HTML-plus-regexp will liquify the nerves of the sentient whilst you observe, your psyche withering in the onslaught of horror. Rege̿̔̉x-based HTML parsers are the cancer that is killing StackOverflow it is too late it is too late we cannot be saved the trangession of a chi͡ld ensures regex will consume all living tissue (except for HTML which it cannot, as previously prophesied) dear lord help us how can anyone survive this scourge using regex to parse HTML has doomed humanity to an eternity of dread torture and security holes using regex as a tool to process HTML establishes a breach between this world and the dread realm of c͒ͪo͛ͫrrupt entities (like SGML entities, but more corrupt) a mere glimpse of the world of regex parsers for HTML will instantly transport a programmer's consciousness into a world of ceaseless screaming, he comes, the pestilent slithy regex-infection will devour your HTML parser, application and existence for all time like Visual Basic only worse he comes he comes do not fight he com̡e̶s, ̕h̵is un̨ho͞ly radiańcé destro҉ying all enli̍̈́̂̈́ghtenment, HTML tags lea͠ki̧n͘g fr̶ǫm ̡yo͟ur eye͢s̸ ̛l̕ik͏e liquid pain, the song of re̸gular expression parsing will extinguish the voices of mortal man from the sphere I can see it can you see ̲͚̖͔̙î̩́t̲͎̩̱͔́̋̀ it is beautiful the final snuffing of the lies of Man ALL IS LOŚ͖̩͇̗̪̏̈́T ALL IS LOST the pon̷y he comes he c̶̮omes he comes the ichor permeates all MY FACE MY FACE ᵒh god no NO NOO̼OO NΘ stop the an*̶͑̾̾̅ͫ͏̙̤g͇̫͛͆̾ͫ̑͆l͖͉̗̩̳̟̍ͫͥͨe̠̅s ͎a̧͈͖r̽̾̈́͒͑e not rè̑ͧ̌aͨl̘̝̙̃ͤ͂̾̆ ZA̡͊͠͝LGΌ ISͮ̂҉̯͈͕̹̘̱ TO͇̹̺ͅƝ̴ȳ̳ TH̘Ë͖́̉ ͠P̯͍̭O̚N̐Y̡ H̸̡̪̯ͨ͊̽̅̾̎Ȩ̬̩̾͛ͪ̈́̀́͘ ̶̧̨̱̹̭̯ͧ̾ͬC̷̙̲̝͖ͭ̏ͥͮ͟Oͮ͏̮̪̝͍M̲̖͊̒ͪͩͬ̚̚͜Ȇ̴̟̟͙̞ͩ͌͝S̨̥̫͎̭ͯ̿̔̀ͅ
I'm no longer interested in it myself
From the OP:Quote from: Jon Pearson on September 04, 2011, 08:15:29 pmI'm looking for donations to keep yorkshiregrit.com running. I'm no longer interested in it myself and I'll kill it off unless it pays for itself. Cost is £24 per month. I'll keep it running as long as the donations I receive cover the cost.
I'm looking for donations to keep yorkshiregrit.com running. I'm no longer interested in it myself and I'll kill it off unless it pays for itself. Cost is £24 per month. I'll keep it running as long as the donations I receive cover the cost.
It would be shame if the database disappears though. I wonder what a fair market price would be?
You're looking at quite a job to recreate this site; it's quite high function. It's not just installing some already existing forum software, spanking on wordpress etc..
Do PHP and MySQL strike you as existing forum software? I'm aware it isn't simply 'spanking on wordpress'.
You could say that in fact, the yorkshire grit pages are simple enough and regular enough that they have their own regular grammar structure and you could do it. I tend to agree, but it would take you fourteen years and you would go madder than the chap above.
Without being a party pooper, what would be the advantage of having a UKB database?
With regards to Yorkshire Grit, not loosing a large amount of detailed and carefully organised information.
It could also expand to cover other areas, not limited to bouldering which could benefit from more accurate information. In my eyes some of the more popular sport climbing areas could benefit from this.
Quote from: slackline on January 07, 2014, 02:17:00 pmWith regards to Yorkshire Grit, not loosing a large amount of detailed and carefully organised information.I don't see how YG would work as a pure database?
(although I noticed Chris has been migrating some of the articles from Scottishclimbs wiki over as its soon to be taken off line too, nice one Chris ).
Quote from: GCW on January 07, 2014, 02:28:08 pmQuote from: slackline on January 07, 2014, 02:17:00 pmWith regards to Yorkshire Grit, not loosing a large amount of detailed and carefully organised information.I don't see how YG would work as a pure database?It is was a database....with a WebUI front-end.
Similarly Dave Flannegan has done a great job developing the Eire guide, which until he got serious about publishing was available as free PDFs, but theres no database which users could add to themselves.