What exercises have you been given? Did you have it X-rayed at the time of the accident? Do you get any symptoms going into your buttocks or legs, if so specifically where? i always thought osteos just did the manipulation thing?
That sounds exactly like what my lower back was like last year. It spasmed loads whenever jumping down but mainly when leaning back, like on roof problems. The physio I saw at the Sheffield Centre for Sports Medicine explained that, for me at least, my core muscles were as weak as anything she'd ever seen and that all my core stability was being done, or not in my case, by the lower back muscles along the spine, which were clearly being very overworked. I basically did loads of core exercises similar to Pilates to develop their strength and gave myself the best part of a year off bouldering (I did spend the year biking though) to enable my core to relearn what it was that it was supposed to be doing when I moved and did things. This also allowed by lower back muscles to learn what they were supposed to be doing too. I've not had any problems since and was back to my old level climbing until I broke my collarbone recently.You might be seeing something similar but I would definitely see a physio about it. I saw chiropracters and the lot but a physio was the one that worked, however it did need the biggest investment from me in terms of applying myself to the exercises given.BP
I broke my collarbone recently.
how do you work out whether you've got weak core muscles.
Quote from: bigphil on August 10, 2009, 01:14:59 pmI broke my collarbone recently.How is that going by the way phil?
Quote from: The Sausage on August 10, 2009, 12:21:35 pmWhat exercises have you been given? Did you have it X-rayed at the time of the accident? Do you get any symptoms going into your buttocks or legs, if so specifically where? i always thought osteos just did the manipulation thing? i had an xray at the time of the accident.how good it was is debatable as i was sent home then called back in the next day to be told i'd got 3 broken ribs.the exs i do are mckenzies,knee(s) up to chest,cats and dogs.my osteo has given me same exs as when i saw a physio but will also do manipulation and massage.
What exercises have you been given? .... core stability exercises take a while to work. They're difficult to learn because they're all about control of movement. Pilates exercises are based on the principles of core stability, but you need to get properly assessed by a recommended physio. Where do you live?
Hi JoeWhat exercises would you recommend ?
Anyway, Mckenzie is total shit, and all those other exercises will just stretch and/or exercise the movement muscles.
It sounds like you haven't been seen by a decent physio - has anybody given you any idea of what they think it is. The most likely thing (although without a proper assessment, this is merely groping in the dark), is weak core stability, which is what bigphil describes. Basically, you have a deep layer of muscle (transversus abdominis + internal and external obliques), which forms a cylinder around from your spine, attaches along your lower ribs and around the ring of bone formed by your pelvis, and joins together at the front (the linea alba i think it's called). Your diaphragm forms the roof of the cannister, and your pelvic floor the base. There are also little muscles between each of your vertebrae (multifidus). These muscles generate internal abdominal pressure by contracting when you move or pick something up. Without them working properly (and they often don't), your superficial layer of muscles work to stabilise, but they're not very good at it for 2 main reasons 1) they need to move you, and struggle to do two jobs at once, and 2) they are designed for sustained, low level contractions (this is demonstrated by trying to hold a smallish weight in a bent arm, like a shopping bag, for the time it takes you to walk to your car - your bicep doesn't really like it, even if you do a 1-armer).
i'm after advice re my lower back.i have had problems for several years since being knocked off my bike.i see the osteopath once a month for an m.o.t. and do all the re comended exercises.but i still get problems ...
i too have memory foam mattress and i've followed every exercise regime i've been given.however as i said above i still get it going into spasm.what i struggle with is last thursday and friday i was in spasm.sat i could manage to walk for 11/2 hours which futher eased it.sun managed 21/2 hours on my bike.mon swiss ball exs followed by dead hanging session.tues 11/2 hours interval session on bike.wed session down the wall although i didn't jump off from too high. thurs 31/2 hours hilly bike ride.today its like i don't have a back problem.also every morning 1st thing i did the back exs out of the pain free book plus mckenzies.
