I'm also sorry to say that those new problems have been done at Caley quite a few years ago. I'm not sure who by origonaly but for some reason the were never recorded.
ain't no room for Cocktalk here. Couldn't let that little dig pass - apologies, should have held my tongue......erm......fingers.There is obviously no rock police or governing body so people are free to do as they choose but with respect for the crag and climbing population. If the general consensus is to fix the hold then so be it - this is a democratic society afterall (?) and the overwhelming reaction is to get it sorted. Who is THE CHOSEN ONE or maybe they want to remain anonymous?
sorry Tom, I may have given you some upsetting news, but the standing start on the arete was done by JP, he never claimed it, as no one did then!
The main references that come to mind for documentation of boulder problems in Yorkshire are the few pics in the Fawcett on Rock book, the Desroy circuits (is it perhaps a beneign bumble?), Rhodes guide, The Thing articles, Cameron Duff guide, Dunning Guide and online yg.com and JP Hotham http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.geocities.com/yorkshireboulder/ Unfortuately I haven't got these to hand today and me internet is going superslow but will have a look through the archives when i can.
Few pointers relating to this thread- Thought we'd had an amnesty on counter claiming on YG when Jon decided to restart his webpage last autumn....
The main references that come to mind for documentation of boulder problems in Yorkshire are the few pics in the Fawcett on Rock book, the Desroy circuits (is it perhaps a beneign bumble?), Rhodes guide, The Thing articles, Cameron Duff guide, Dunning Guide and online yg.com and JP Hotham http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.geocities.com/yorkshireboulder/
Anyways the real issue of this thread is when is someone going to get the superglue out to stabilise Hetchell, most of Brimham etc etc etc etc etc etc.
No superglue please - we've covered this before, professional jobs require professional solutions.
when all is said and done, when all the shouting and philosophizing and moralizing is over, I suspect that this topic is simply another example of something.
once you start tampering with one problem in a certain way where do you end? Just go and find something else to climb there's plenty out there.
I suspect that this topic is simply another example of something.