[al]

think mark's problem is 'the brigand', but still not sure where it goes, or where I got the 8a number from! (it gets E something 7a in the book)- (the arete i meant was fo'c'stle arete/broadside, which is great from a sitter)
also meant 'obstructive pensioner', when I mentioned a nice V6 right of hornblower - really exciting but a definite boulder problem (as opposed to E4 6c in the guides)

[Bonjoy]

Aaah, so the project right of OP remains to be done.

[Offwidth]

Things which are really boulder problems will go in the new BMC guide as boulder problems, in the same style as the new Roaches guide.

[al]

Aaah, so the project right of OP remains to be done.

think so, not heard anything - nice smooth rock!

[andy_e]

good old JR flashing.... does it count if you stay at the crag for more than one day?

[Bonjoy]

The decription off the UKC database (which generally uses the exact wording of the FA) makes it sound like the brigand goes up the right side of the wall.

The Brigand E4 7a  Mark Katz solo May 1997  

  The ground right of Broadside over the overlap to a poor pocket and bottomless crack to the top. Hard start. Start by stepping off a block, the short may need to use a cheating stone as well. The tall may be able to miss out the block by using a sidepull when doing the rockover. (10m)

 This sound to me like the line just left of the corner.
 If so the wall to it's left is a quality unclimbed hard project

[cofe]

me and scouse had a pleasant evening at birchen tonight. scouse did the sitter to focsicle/broadside which is excellent and also what we reckon is a new prob - a blank wall just left of moby dick in a steep gully. involves a morpho reach to a nano-hoist - hard to grade; he flashed it but i could barely span it. midgets would have to freestyle.

also, has anyone done gritstone megamix - looks like an outstanding highball? and has the brigand been repeated? a good line - would be good to get an idea of font grade.