[Johnny Brown]

Yeah I guess the right-hand side of lower homs looks ok, but that left-hand side looks ridiculous. Not convinced Upper Homs is any worse than the bad bits of Dorys.... must go and do that route with the in-situ car jack sometime.

[Falling Down]

Yeah I guess the right-hand side of lower homs looks ok, but that left-hand side looks ridiculous. Not convinced Upper Homs is any worse than the bad bits of Dorys.... must go and do that route with the in-situ car jack sometime.

Brewing up with Morley Wood? (Another quality name)..

My Dads mate took me out on his boat around the whole of Cilan from Abersoch a couple of years back which was an eye opening trip.. there's so much potential around Black Bay and Paitsch.

I've surfed a secret spot under Doris that is a gnarly sucky r. hander - I'm not sure which is more scary, the climbing there or the wave.

[Johnny Brown]

Paitsch is a terrifying place. I guess there is lots of 'potential' though. On a hot day years back traversed/ swam from vatican to chinatown - top day out, saw lots of that kind of potential.
 
Always thought there must be a break at Dorys, but not being much of a surfer never knew if it'd work. reckon its a gnarlier tisk than most of the routes at Dorys, Bobok excepted.

[dave]

Just remembered i once belayed off a sykhook and a poor sling at the top of Pelmets of Delirium on Lundy. it was on a rocky grass slope though.

[clm]

not forgetting the fish that couldnt swim etc.  someone please go and climb the turd that wouldnt flush.  not forgetting dance around yer handbags.  ironing anyone??

[Falling Down]

On a hot day years back traversed/ swam from vatican to chinatown - top day out, saw lots of that kind of potential..

 :shock:  you swam around Clilan fukinell !!!  I've sailed into 8-10 knot tide races that whip straight out into the Irish Sea from close to the cliffs .. you were lucky you picked the right time.

On a related note, the tide race between Bardsey and the cliffs around St Marys Well is one of the fastest in the world.. if you go climbing there during spring tides, you can see full-on Egdar Allen Poe Into The Maelstrom style whirlpools about two hours after high tide..

[luckyjez]

With hooks, impact force and the throw (distance from front to back) are the keys. Lowering impact force by using skinnier ropes or half ropes (longer fall though) might help, as might having a hook with a short throw to reduce leverage. Using ripper slings makes sense but they tend to cause a lot of vibration when the stitching rips, hence they may cause the hook to wander. The Leeper hooks were great but Outside used to order them direct from Ed Leeper in the States and stopped doing that a while ago.

[cofe]

anyone would think you worked for a climbing hardware company :wink:

[clm]

you thought about using one of these??