[Dolly]

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have you said this for a laugh? WSS is not 7b, it's hard 7b+. nothing at crag x, on that bit of crag is 7a+. the terrace is 7c+, tho some people find it easier than others. you're obviously too strong for your own good!

Sorry - I got confused with which Terrace  
I genuinely think WSS is 7b using the Bentley approved sequence tho' -

[hongkongstuey]

if we give buckstone 7a+, then undercuts dyno must be at least a grade if not 2 lower.

no no no no no no no

out of the three classy grit dyno's, the buckstine is MILES easier than the other tow - Deliverance and Undercut Dyno being about the same (although i personally found the undercut dyno harder until after i'd done it once, then it became a doddle to repeat)

[c.j.d.]

Would it be rude to suggest The Joker (Plantation) at 7c?  Also The Thing at 7c+?  Not being cotentious or anything, but they are pretty :poke:  straight forward for the grade.

[dave]

out of the three classy grit dyno's, the buckstine is MILES easier than the other tow - Deliverance and Undercut Dyno being about the same (although i personally found the undercut dyno harder until after i'd done it once, then it became a doddle to repeat)

thats just crazy talk, and i don't mean no red indian muthafukka.

[Doylo]

WSS ain't no 7b, solid 7b+ of anyones money. I don't think i'm the only one who thinks the press is 7b+, hard 7c+ from the low start. Powerhumps thingy maybe just scrapes 7b+. Ain't the terrace from stand up 6c or something, one move? I reckon spare rib is 7b, a grade easier than WSS.

[dave]

i heard terrace goven 7b from staning by rich heap and benP last winter - think it was from starting with HR on hangin crimp, and LH in the bullethole, so 1 move to good slot (ala Stick It) and nother move to top. woudl still be piss for 7b though, more like 7a.

[Sloper]

What's the consensus on velvet crab?

[ned]

where abouts is zaffs problem at the secret garden, everyone thinks its 2ft left/right of where anyone else says it is :? .......

[dave]

say about 2m left of beachball the roof get a little less deep and theres an obvious kind of nose thing (7b?)....well its inbetween this nose and beachball. LINE!

[Johnny Brown]

like dis...

Not too bad if you've got the hips for it - and the best problem there by miles. Its obvious as its the bit with no holds :wink:

[a dense loner]

miles didn't do it, it's zaf's. i thought you knew :roll:

[ned]

oh right, so you get that little pockety thing for your left hand? Is it from a sitting start  at the back of the roof?
Its starting to make a little bit more sense!

[a dense loner]

yeh, sit start in back come out to slopers on lip, thumb under roof. swing off left foot into photo position, right hand up then left to pockety thing over top

[Jim]

apart from its a heel toe you want to get in. Its a quality problem.
whats the problem to the right of this and to the left of beachball?

[a dense loner]

you know what it is. it's the problem easier than beachball but actually harder :roll:

[Johnny Brown]

so you get that little pockety thing for your left hand?

Not the one above his foot though, that's too far left. You match the hold he has with his right, udge yer crotch a bit, then go up and left to a pockety thing just visible. Quality.

The thing between zaffs and beachball uses the crack and pocket and is grim.