i'd go to longridge, 30 mns from town. climbed there during summer with trashed tips n it didn't seem to matter too much. don't think the probs depend as much on friction. if u haven't been it's like an outdoor woody. or u could do what i did the wkend b4 last. on sat went to wimberry, sun ramshaw n mon curbar. i think i'm just getting some flesh back. why we didn't throw dox's pool in as well i'll never know!