[slackline]

Prompted by Norton Sharley's post.

[Bonjoy]

What is perhaps a more constructive and interesting question would be, what should we (climbers) try to get from the meeting/dinner date? What worthwhile thing/s is a realistic and achievable aim?
I should imagine if we walk into the meeting with no clearer goal than to get some cheesy pictures with a grinning GB then we will walk out with nothing more? Neither would off loading a long and unfocussed wingelist be very productive. What those involved need to do is find one or a handful of achievable goals, realistically these will have to be modest and think about how best to lobby for these.

[slackline]

Aye, very good point, perhaps people could put some thoughts down here.

At the moment I've not got any idea as to what might be a) desirable or b) achievable, but will give it some thought.

[magpie]

What exactly is the point of the meeting?  There must be some reason fo them setting it up in the first place, but what?

[Johnny Brown]

My main intentionwill be to give the relevant minister a kick up the arse regarding this:

Labour plans to extend the right to roam to the coastline in England and Wales if it wins a third term.

There is provision for access to be extended to areas other than mountain, moor, heath, down and common land under the Countryside and Rights of Way (Crow) Act 2000 that brought in the right to roam.

The Ramblers' Association says that there is a common-law right of access to the foreshore for mariners and fishermen but, contrary to popular belief, not for walkers.

There is no statutory right of access to the coast. In most places rights are granted voluntarily by landowners under long-standing arrangements.

Hopefully it can get underway before they lose power. I've not preference twixt tory and labour but historically labour have a better record on such issues.

[Sloper]

Labour indeed have a much better record in this poliy area, but the chances of any new legislation in this regard are very slim indeed, there simply isn't Parliamentary time available before the next election, much better to push for a reform to CROW to allow for issues scuh as Vixen Tor to be covered for which time might be found (this might be able to be dealt with by secondary legislation for example).