[jonjon]

it was twilight last night, it looked like a grey/bit of white wolf like thing, i saw it from sitting under Heartland moving through the woods opposite. quite impressive.

As an aside any beta on Heartland, i was on my own and decided to not stick around to work it out.

before you ask - it wasn't a Tibetan Spaniel, a sheep, or a cow.

[dave]

2 mountain hares in tandem?

[Jaspersharpe]

The Font panther?

[Scouse D]

There's an awful lot of bones in those woods. I was there the other day looking round;wearing a grey wolf suit and a white neckerchief.

[Bonjoy]

Heartland beta: From jug match, LH to pinch/flatty, RF heel toe in jug, RH gaston/flared finger jam, turn LH hold into an undercut pinch, get LF poorish heel-toe behind LH on pinch, up to slopey top with left, match top, shuffle left. Can't recall exact details of the next few moves, but for the end bit - RH on sloper underneath undercut, LH in slopey break out left, hang as low as possible, throw on a right heelhook and turn RH into undercut, pull to top.
You will also hear numerous other ways of doing it. Have tried other sequences people told me, they all seemed harder to me. I think it's only 7b+ with good beta.

[lagerstarfish]

it's only 7b+ with good beta

Someone should put that on a t-shirt...

[dave]

Heartland beta: From jug match, LH to pinch/flatty, RF heel toe in jug, RH gaston/flared finger jam, turn LH hold into an undercut pinch, get LF poorish heel-toe behind LH on pinch, up to slopey top with left, match top, shuffle left.

This is simply crackpipe madness, the twisted brain-wrong of a on-off man mental. Tried this very beta on wednesday, its utter bollocks. if you can hold the drag/seam enough for this to work you'd be able to crush it some easier beta without a foot-to-face contorsion in the middle.

I think it's only 7b+ with good beta.

If anyone knows what said beta is, I'm all ears.

[Bonjoy]

Said beta might not be the most optimal if you are tall.

[jonjon]

of course beta might be all academic, national park rangers suggesting it isn't the safest place to climb on your own up there, especially a fat lad like myself.

[cofe]

jon's version of the story this morning was (and I'm simplifying):

Jon: "I saw a big cat near baslow last night"

Me: "what do you think it was"

Jon: "an irish wolfhound"

Me (sarcastically): "so not a cat then"

incidentally, in one of the quarries near scouse's new problem it did look like something had been going apeshit eating up some young lambs (scouse?) so maybe he's onto something...

[jonjon]

cofe is so proud of his funny sarcastic reply he has told everyone in the office how funny it is, and you lot, and indeed me a few times.

i note he isn't coming out to try Heartland this afty though...

[cofe]

i could probably make some comment about 'tight arsed boss not giving me time off to try it' or summert but it might not go down too well...

[SA Chris]

A scottish wild cat gone astray? I have seen what I believe to be one twice now. Probably crossbred with a feral domestic, but definitely bigger than any tabby i have seen.

[Obi-Wan is lost...]

Think I've solved the mystery...

[cofe]

no, that's his dog.

[Jim]

isn't heartland at gardoms north and not baslow
question?

[Johnny Brown]

i saw it from sitting under Heartland moving through the woods opposite.

[Somebody's Fool]

Funnily enough I've worked in the woods in question a couple of times, and both times I've seen a Timberwolf.

Although saying that, I was a tree surgeon at the time.  And Timberwolf is a brand of chipper.

[SA Chris]

never seen a chipshop in any woods.