[John Cooke]

So where do these problems go exactly? Wouldn't mind trying them before they get wet for the winter.

[Paul B]

are they not already?

[John Cooke]

Was there today and everything was bone dry. Conditions were perfect in fact.

[Paul B]

that place is odd...

3&4)Superman (8a+) and The Hulk (7c+ soft).  Super starts hanging low and hulk is standing with good sidepull pinch (left) and broken low pinch (right).  Pull on, then move, no french starts!  Can sit super from down and right, a bit shitty (8b)

i'm sure ru will or andy will be along shortly to give full details. 

[Ru]

SM (original) started hanging on the lowest dish, LH sidepull, RH sloping dish, pull through to top sloper LH, match RH, rock out right, pull to top.
SW (original) was Superman but using a crimp for the left hand as an intermediate once you had the RH sloping dish.
After the sidepull snapped SM/SW is done using a small LH crimp instead from the same starting position.

[John Cooke]

Hey Ru,

Is the sloping dish the same hold you go to on the hulk? Do they finish at the same point too?

[Ru]

Yes, the same.