If this is the crazy upside-down fridge-hooking toe-shredding tree-avoiding thing that Dave G added a low start to (?), there is a video lurking around - the_dagger_med.mov - I've got the video, and The Dagger seems to start on a 18" wide, 2" high "flake"/edge in the roof, about 2 foot below and parallel to a similar but much larger "flake".