What a shit show. A bird reserve? Raise the birds to shoot the birds? Mass trespass? If the bmc can't sort it out?
Quote from: Will Hunt on April 11, 2018, 08:20:31 pmWhat a shit show. A bird reserve? Raise the birds to shoot the birds? Mass trespass? If the bmc can't sort it out?And end up with another Whitehouses. However looking at the access land map, it appears that Clemmits out of the woods is on access land and the bottom boulders of Clemmits in are right on the public right of way
(a) a right of way on foot, (b) a right of way on horseback or leading a horse, and (c) a right of way for vehicles other than mechanically propelled vehicles
The fact that there is a right of way there is meaningless I think.For designated access land, the CRoW Act grants the right to take access for the purpose of open-air recreation. Which presumably covers climbing (off topic: but not caving?).Under the act, the only rights granted for rights of way are: Quote(a) a right of way on foot, (b) a right of way on horseback or leading a horse, and (c) a right of way for vehicles other than mechanically propelled vehiclesThere is no provision for climbing, but you may walk your horse along the bottom of Whitehouses as much as you like.
Quote from: Will Hunt on April 12, 2018, 10:12:42 amThe fact that there is a right of way there is meaningless I think.For designated access land, the CRoW Act grants the right to take access for the purpose of open-air recreation. Which presumably covers climbing (off topic: but not caving?).Under the act, the only rights granted for rights of way are: Quote(a) a right of way on foot, (b) a right of way on horseback or leading a horse, and (c) a right of way for vehicles other than mechanically propelled vehiclesThere is no provision for climbing, but you may walk your horse along the bottom of Whitehouses as much as you like.Where have you got this information from?
The area that Clemmitt's falls into still has a fuedal system in place. I had an allotment (locally known as garths) just down the road in Castleton (all part of Danby Court Leet) and instead of paying rent to the council, you paid a "fine" to the court leet/ Lord Downe. This was usually £2 and was just a way to stop you retrospectively claiming to own the land. There are fines for all sorts of things - parking cars, digging peat, using land to access other land. The Danby bailiff goes around once a year instructing people to present themselves at Danby Castle to pay their fines.
So you can't take your horse to Whitehouses, but you could take it to clemitt's.