just to let you all no that when climbing the power pinch,impropa link today that hold x broke off. it has left a kindoff flat jug type hold.i dont think this will change anyoff the grades to any problems useing this hold.as i dont know anyone down that way and not sure when ied be back down i have left the broken hold on the starting hold of slapstick just incase anyone wants to do anything with it i dont think anyone will be able to put it back but i might be wrong the hold that it has left seems solid enough.sorry everyone