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the shizzle => diet, training and injuries => Topic started by: Oli on September 23, 2008, 09:28:25 pm
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What does everyone do for food when off to the crag for the day?
I seem to usually end up eating biscuits, which is clearly not good for any number of reasons. Occasionally I'll make some pasta, but generally i forget.
So what's the knowledge on both purchased and made crag food? And preferably not at an extortionate cost. I need some new ideas...
Oli
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I swear by bananas at the crag, so much energy, good for you and don't bloat you either. I avoid things like powerbars.
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you can't go far wrong with flapjack.
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Good call on the flapjack. Cheap and fairly quick to make too.
Do you reckon you can survive a whole day on flajack though?
I'm not keen on bananas, which rules that out, despite the fact they are supposed to be pretty good.
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Flapjack is a good one.
For even more of a buzz Kendal Mint Cake is top notch. Watch your teeth though.
Egg sarnies are good in my book, lots of protein.
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Have a normal packed lunch at the crag if you morning session extends into the afternoon. Don't just snack your way through.
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Do you reckon you can survive a whole day on flajack though?
I'd give it a fair go!
obviously not just flapjack. as terrence says, bananas is good. I used to live 2 mins from a shop doing amazing steak pies so i used to live on those at the crag. any kinda sarnie is good these days. pork pies can be a winner but have a tendancy to be hard going unless the quality is high. i'd also throw in a boost or double decker to make sure.
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Don't just snack your way through.
:guilty:
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Don't forget a good box of donuts, helps with the power I find.
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Maltloaf, plumloaf(contains no plums) both low in fat high in taste!! or giant chocolate ricecakes. I try not to just suck down entire stocks of foodstuffs though, but eat a couple of mouthfuls then wait half an hour to see if the hunger goes, if it does ,cool, if it doesn't, out comes the snap again....A little bit of hunger can make me feel floaty, a brick in the stomach's no good in my book.
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A little bit of hunger Mary Jane can make me feel floaty...
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Struggling to link directly, Slackers. Use mix turtle search for "take two and pass".....
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Chocolate flapjack is ace - keeps you sorted; both physically and emotionally... although some twisted souls may try to disagree.
I like to have a big lump of nice fresh bread to munch on throughout the day. Sometimes treat myself to bread with stuff baked into it - seeds, dried tomatoes, olives etc. I'm not too bothered about having stuff to spread on it.
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I'm not too bothered about having stuff to spread on it.
A man who understands the good things in life. I always get bizarre looks from people for just eating baguettes with nothing on them. I reckon it's mostly the way forward.
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When I'm in Font I will have a massive half baguette crammed full of camenbert for lunch. I seem to eat way more food here than at crags in the UK!
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Chocolate flapjack is ace - keeps you sorted; both physically and emotionally... although some twisted souls may try to disagree.
Now don't get me wrong I like a chocjack as much as the next man but for year round grad food you can't beat a flapjack crammed to the nines with raisins, currants, dates, dried apricots etc. keeps it supple in winter, and in summer you don't have it melting everywhere.
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im going to start taking tuna with salt and pepper on.
thats all.
oh and sandwiches and chalk are a hit, goes well with twirls, kitkats and other calorific items.
and a sip of coffee
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I go for piesw in the summer as I find they retain structural integrity without going sweaty lik sarnies can, these boys here are the business:
http://www.pieminister.co.uk/?gclid=CPLEptbz8pUCFSTmlAodAwZ5fA (http://www.pieminister.co.uk/?gclid=CPLEptbz8pUCFSTmlAodAwZ5fA)
The Lamb one is the schizzle. For the winter it's ham with salad and a big fuck off piece of brie.
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before the gyms session i find it excellent to have a couple of glasses full of yoghurt and muesli.
for a day out i have flapjacks when in uk, otherwise a big sandwich with ham and cheese or maybe even two, then dark chocolate with nuts, and tea. also some kookies help me.
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oh, and i always try to drink one liter of water while driving to the boulders.
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Slimfast shake for protein and carbs + Malt loaf to fill the stomach.
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If I was sensible I might take a bar of chocolate to the crag. But I am not. I love, but do not have, chocolate. I cannot eat chocolate at a sensible rate. I eat chocolate like a dog eats chocolate. It takes longer to get the wrapper off than to cane the contents. I want to eat it slowly, to savour it, but it just gets pushed into my face. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH. I need a drink.
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I think I'm going to go for the malt loaf option tomorrow, and try and avoid the biscuits (fuck me, it sounds like i'm addicted to them or something).
Making some mini pies when cooking sounds like a winning plan as well.
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Chocolate flapjack is ace - keeps you sorted; both physically and emotionally... although some twisted souls may try to disagree.
Though being described as a twisted soul is rather nice I feel that I have to disagree most strongly!
I suggest you pay attention to Dave as he is starting to shape up well as my first lieutenant - all it requires is a few more weeks and he will be denouncing the evils of Chocolate Flapjack like he was born to it.
bluebrad
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Slimfast shake for protein and carbs
jesus H.
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Sainsbury's cherry bakewells. Water. That is all.
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Sainsbury's cherry bakewells. Water. That is all.
I'm not sure what the causal relationship is between your choice of crag food and the fact that you only last 40 mins per session?
egg?...chicken?...chicken?...egg?
pot, kettle
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I'll have you know that I've lasted the full two hours recently on most occasions. :-[
Get in, get trashed, get out is my motto. And if you're taking two whole chickens and some eggs to the crag riverbank then no wonder you're not losing weight.
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Slimfast shake for protein and carbs + Malt loaf to fill the stomach.
It's got the same amount of protein in as drinking the equivalent amount of low fat milk and your simple carbs come in the form of Fructose. You might as well just drink sugary milk.
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Slimfast shake for protein and carbs + Malt loaf to fill the stomach.
It's got the same amount of protein in as drinking the equivalent amount of low fat milk and your simple carbs come in the form of Fructose. You might as well just drink sugary milk.
It's the sports drink of choice for the UK Olympic rowers according to Matthew Pinsent. They seem to do alright on it. Bompa recommends some dairy like yoghurt during training sessions for much the same reasons; good mix of carbs and proteins, and easily tolerated after exercise.
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Sainsbury's cherry bakewells. Water. That is all.
Ah-ha a man who learnt in the Matt Saunders school of sport nutrition (although strictly I think he would advocate coke not water) ;D
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Slimfast shake for protein and carbs + Malt loaf to fill the stomach.
It's got the same amount of protein in as drinking the equivalent amount of low fat milk and your simple carbs come in the form of Fructose. You might as well just drink sugary milk.
It's the sports drink of choice for the UK Olympic rowers according to Matthew Pinsent. They seem to do alright on it. Bompa recommends some dairy like yoghurt during training sessions for much the same reasons; good mix of carbs and proteins, and easily tolerated after exercise.
What i'm saying is your being pushed a branded product in this case which the macro's can be easily obtained eating (drinking) something a f*ck load cheaper.
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I rememeber a few years ago westie turned up to the crag with just a block of cheese cos thats all they had in the shop
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what i eat snack wise at the crag:
crackers!
all fruit is good
jaffa cakes are amazing and seem to have been forgotten
raw cucumber, celery and carrot (occasionly peppers)
BREAD STICKS!!
i like yoghurt drinks
maybe some cheese
plenty of water, juices
baring in mind this is the range of stuff that i bring, i dont bring it all at once!
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shortbread/gingerbread men.
in font we lived on chocolate spread
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Slimfast shake for protein and carbs + Malt loaf to fill the stomach.
It's got the same amount of protein in as drinking the equivalent amount of low fat milk and your simple carbs come in the form of Fructose. You might as well just drink sugary milk.
It's the sports drink of choice for the UK Olympic rowers according to Matthew Pinsent. They seem to do alright on it. Bompa recommends some dairy like yoghurt during training sessions for much the same reasons; good mix of carbs and proteins, and easily tolerated after exercise.
What i'm saying is your being pushed a branded product in this case which the macro's can be easily obtained eating (drinking) something a f*ck load cheaper.
First off it's got more protein than low fat milk because it's made from soya and milk proteins and you mix it with low fat milk, second the carbs come from glucose syrup.
As for the cost it works out cheaper than buying the component parts (I've costed this in the past), particularly if you use Tesco's own brand. The cost is similar to Decathlon's recovery drink which I also use.
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I rememeber a few years ago westie turned up to the crag with just a block of cheese cos thats all they had in the shop
Where had he been shopping? Cheeses of Nazareth?
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what i eat snack wise at the crag:
crackers!
all fruit is good
jaffa cakes are amazing and seem to have been forgotten
raw cucumber, celery and carrot (occasionly peppers)
Fuck cucumber; but celery and carrots are ace :thumbsup:
grated carrot mixed with penut butter and strawbwerry jam in between nice bread used to be my guilty pleasure - must start again.
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Slimfast shake for protein and carbs + Malt loaf to fill the stomach.
It's got the same amount of protein in as drinking the equivalent amount of low fat milk and your simple carbs come in the form of Fructose. You might as well just drink sugary milk.
It's the sports drink of choice for the UK Olympic rowers according to Matthew Pinsent. They seem to do alright on it. Bompa recommends some dairy like yoghurt during training sessions for much the same reasons; good mix of carbs and proteins, and easily tolerated after exercise.
What i'm saying is your being pushed a branded product in this case which the macro's can be easily obtained eating (drinking) something a f*ck load cheaper.
First off it's got more protein than low fat milk because it's made from soya and milk proteins and you mix it with low fat milk, second the carbs come from glucose syrup.
As for the cost it works out cheaper than buying the component parts (I've costed this in the past), particularly if you use Tesco's own brand. The cost is similar to Decathlon's recovery drink which I also use.
I'll take your word for it although last time I was in Decathlon and spent a good while reading packets (and then getting stalked by the security guard) I left feeling that they were shafting you and everything was over priced. Thankfully I now have a nice group of people which adds up to 20kg+ on each order from MP and therefore muchos savings.
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grated carrot mixed with penut butter and strawbwerry jam in between nice bread used to be my guilty pleasure - must start again.
And I thought I was weird eating egg, salad cream, marmite and chilli sandwiches :shrug:
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i find it quite hard to eat when at the crag(the total opposite to rest of the time) i'm ok with a bit of fruit but if i start on the flapjack and butties i sort of grind to a halt.
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You guys obviously are not getting enough caffeine. You should drink strong black coffee until your heartbeat fills your ears and you are having palpitations, then head out to the crag. I havent eaten solid food since 1986.
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A proppa espresso as i head out the door, followed by lots of water then my special blend of life giving liquid stuff to keep me going. Perhaps a slice of homemade banana loaf if I get gnawy stomach.
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You guys obviously are not getting enough caffeine. You should drink strong black coffee until your heartbeat fills your ears and you are having palpitations, then head out to the crag. I havent eaten solid food since 1986.
Worked for Malc.
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I have tried, on occasions, to use Bananas as crag food but they inevitably end up squashed over my favorite (unwashed) jumper or one of the many shoes I carry around for no particular reason.
Dried apricots are blooming good but this weekend I was satisfied on the first day by olive bread, feta and hummus (I nearly fell asleep every time I finished a sandwich or two but they blooming lovely - emotion above energy levels, I say!) and on the second scoffed bagels and apricot jam. For less intensive food stuffs, I'd recommend any dried fruit with something sweet and oaty to back it up. Lay off the biscuits (or at the least share them)!
Al
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dried apricots are ace but its a fine line to tread before you find yourself shitting through the eye of a needle.
if your banana gets mullered, buy one of these (http://www.bananaguards.co.uk/eshop/). anyone who's anyone has got one.
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(or at the least share them)!
I'm pretty sure that you've had your fair share of my biscuits...
I went for malt loaf whilst in Pembroke. Good, but i reckon i could easily eat two of them in a day. :shrug:
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dried apricots are ace but its a fine line to tread before you find yourself shitting through the eye of a needle.
Yes, this is the ever present danger, if you get carried away with apricots (although can be used to great effect the day before a red-point to loose those etc grams of cheese sandwich accumalated through the week, if that's your bag). Banana boxes are total waft - up there with coats for dogs.
I went for malt loaf whilst in Pembroke. Good, but i reckon i could easily eat two of them in a day. :shrug:
Malt loaf is good if buttered-up and can also be used in many 'can-guess-what-it-is-yet?' playdo games.
Al
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Bananaguards are great, not only do they protect your precious fruit from crushage, they will take 6 cream eggs in a discreet knob shaped package.
I'm out for a full day on Friday and have 2 soreen malt loaf sitting here. How about both buttered and slapped together?
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Has anyone tried dry roasted Soya nuts? Full of protein, nice snack after a days skin shedding
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mini cheddars :great:
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You guys obviously are not getting enough caffeine. You should drink strong black coffee until your heartbeat fills your ears and you are having palpitations, then head out to the crag. I havent eaten solid food since 1986.
and you were bemoaning the fact that your bowels are loose!
I remember the combination of multiple coffees followed up by a couple of over-caffeinated sugary drink companys had a somewhat interesting effect on our ability to climb!
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Low fat I suppose?
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hOUdini endorses dried baby bananas, dried baby banana and cocaine cut w/ creatine.
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Make your own trail mix; any combo of dried fruits, nuts, choccy covered peanuts and raisins, smarties. Add in some chocolate covered espresso beans for a midday kick once the coffee rush starts to flag. Do not eat more than half a dozen though, they are pretty yummy.
Sports mix (now with out minging liquorice ones) are good to chew on and give a bit of sugars.
Chocolate Biscuits. Any chocolate.
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algae: spirulina (in soya shakes before, throughout, and after); and chlorella tablets. both very rich in protein, vitamins and minerals, and very absorbable.
banannas, apples, nuts: energy, carbs
jelly babies: sugar boosts (some runners swear by them)
strictly speaking, not up the crags yet -- still a noob... but thats what i use for indoor walls, and fell walking, martial arts, and running.
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Defo go with the Soreen. Plump variety now again to mix things up. The cinnamon flavoured one isn't so hot.
Often take a whey protein with me to get down my neck on the way home.
The mint choc chip Clif bars are the shit but seem hard to come by in the UK.
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Guilty of taking chocolate hobnobs, banana's with melted chocolate in side pre cooked in tin foil.
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Finest crag food - check out Thornton's Toffee Cake Bars. Only take one with you, or else you will hoff the whole packet in a oner.
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Shirley there's no-one alive man enough to take Hoff's packet in a oner?!
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I like a Sunday roast topped off with a few quaffs of red wine.
Turns VS into 8c anyday of the week.