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the shizzle => diet, training and injuries => Topic started by: fatdoc on July 26, 2007, 09:33:12 am
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Right,
you can order these direct form canada, with a price for one being $600CAN.
You can see they have the potential to be awesome. But you pay near on double compared to foam pads.
My ankles are so shagged that i'm getting one. I doubt there's a massive market in the UK for these, sooooooooo.......
I though about a non profit one off bulk order by me, to anyone on here that wants one... you'll have to have it if you say you want it, or my credit card will explode! (bulk order should keep the carriage to the minimum).
And: I havnt gone into the import tax bit yet.... so this is a specialist bit of kit that costs a fair bit of dosh!
here's the product
www.flashed.com/Ronin_2007.pdf
i know of a couple of peeps that are interested... I'm gonna order in the next week or so... feel free to join in the order if you interested...
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You gonna spend 300 notes without testing one out?
I can sell you a load of bubble wrap for £200 - just replace your foam with it :)
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A collapsible/inflatable mat seems painstakingly obvious doesn't it? Well it didn't to me until just now. It seems a shame they need to blind you with science in that pdf document. It also seems a shame they need to write cheesy shit like Air Technology all over the cover.
I think I'd feel a bit of a spaff sporting one of those at the crag at the moment. A bit like brandishing any product on the market that has 'As seen on TV' on it. I'd probably also feel a spaff for paying that much money.
I can definitely see the future though, and like everything, I'm sure they'll become widely available and at a cheaper price as existing manufacturers catch on.
Feedback doc.
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I'd be interested. PM me with the finer details Doc
The pins in my legs won't take much more falling
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i'm happy with the technology to buy it now. i know peeps that have landed on one a few times...
sod lookin a spaff, that's what we all thought when pads first came out.... now look at the hordes of pad people all over the world!! fashion vs. my ankles... i'm happy with the odd looks! christ , I still wear lyrca !!!
as for cheaper air pads.... there are more than a few patents on this thing i would presume...
i agree the styling could be less full on though...
yep, i'm defo going for one.
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Are they collapseable then? Be nice to be able to fine tune the padding via an air pump or something.
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Am deffo up for one as you know, but have seen one on MEC site for $380 can
Is it worth contacting them ?
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whats MEC site??
is it in CAN or USA dollars, have a dig around dolly...
$453CAN is the flashed.com rrp without shipping.. sounds like MEC is in USA dollars to me..
bubs, take a look at the flashed site, there is an assembly.mov on there that shows the innerds of one being built up...
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whats MEC site??
MEC = Mountain Equipment Co-op (probably the best outdoor shop in the world)
is it in CAN or USA dollars, have a dig around dolly...
$453CAN is the flashed.com rrp without shipping.. sounds like MEC is in USA dollars to me..
Canadian
http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442621241&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302690669&bmUID=1185456008589
except last time I looked they don't ship to the UK. Boooooo!
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arse...
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[update] Looks like they do now ship stuff internationally, should cost $70CAN less canadian tax, but plus UK customs (I doubt a mat would 'slip' through customs un-noticed!)
oh yeah, and you need to be a member to use MEC, doesn't cost much though.
International Shipping
Many international destinations are now receiving improved airmail service via Canada Post Xpresspost International. For countries and delivery times visit the Canada Post website.
Orders going to international destinations are shipped by air mail. Orders shipped outside of Canada are not charged Canadian taxes; however, all orders pass through customs and are subject to import duties, taxes, and custom processing fees. A customs invoice will arrive with your parcel or may follow in the mail. Recipients are responsible for paying these additional fees.
MEC is unable to provide estimates for customs fees. Check with your local customs office for more information.
Method
Order total
Rate
Delivery
Air Mail
up to $200
$50.00
1-4 weeks
$200-400
$70.00
$400-600
$85.00
$600-1000
$98.00
Certain products or orders are too large, fragile and / or heavy to be shipped by our standard methods. Please email us at info@mec.ca, or call 1.888.847.0770 (Canada and USA) or 604.709.6241 (Vancouver area and international), and we will let you know if your order requires extra freight. Bulk orders are handled through Corporate and Group Sales.
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Isn't anyone importing Flashed gear anymore?
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nope. if they were i'd be well up for it.
I'm gonna have to wait to get home (with the current deluge that could be a problem) to check out the MEC site.
Anyone know how to find out the import duty?? be good to know exactly what the total cost would be... i agree, a parcel the size of a small car is not likely to get through - may as well be straight up with it all.
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Anyone know how to find out the import duty?? be good to know exactly what the total cost would be... i agree, a parcel the size of a small car is not likely to get through - may as well be straight up with it all.
Probably find some useful info at http://www.hmrc.gov.uk (http://www.hmrc.gov.uk) (or more specifically here (http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageTravel_ShowContent&propertyType=document&resetCT=true&id=HMCE_CL_001454))
Although strangely "Bouldering Pads" aren't listed under Common Internet Goods :shrug:
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Good name by the way, like to see the Flashed boys are Vandal (http://www.vandalmademedoit.com/eCard.swf) fans as well ;). The film's (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0122690/) alright too.
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i've emailed customs. Certainly the income tax dept has always come back to me pronto - there again that's cos they usually want money off me!
cant make head nor tail of their site..... nightmare.
I've asked what % tax you pay on USA and canadian imports, looks like it could be anything from 4.5 to 15%!!!!! This could have a bearing on where we buy them from.
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The customs & excise phone helpline is usually pretty good. When we were going to import those Czech Pad's a while back they gave us loads of info.
I'd buy from Canada on principal to stop my money going towards the evil US war machine. Oh wait, i'm living in the UK so most of my cash goes into the same pot ;)
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good point bubs, er.. is canada in the commonwealth??? could be cheaper...* he hopes *
must be having a blank brain moment, couldnt find the relevant number on the site... it's bloody confusing i tell ya!
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Try: 0845 010 9000, open until 8pm though not sure if that's the up to date number.
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thanks mate!!
i'll do it tomorrow (not working) and get all info up on here, i'll phone MEC as well.
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I was searching for bouldering mats on ebay earlier in the week and came across these Ronin mats. Just searched again now and cant find them! They look brill. The company was a US exporter I think. Can`t remember the price though.
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Found them on ebay.com, completed listings $410 with
NO international postage offered. on anther look it seems as if they will, it says to contact the seller.
Item number: 220127980536
hope thats some help.
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Dunno if this would work out since it's a foreign import, and sporting gear to boot, but you could possibly import it as an item of 'medical equipment' for your fucked ankles....
I know you can avoid the VAT on a Tempur mattress by buying it as a piece of medical equipment for your spine.
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"landing system" - crikey, this looks good, but I'd be worried it'd pop...
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$380CAN from MEC is only £176.... i thought it would be more!
dont get me wrong, it's still a wedge of dosh...
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bloodt hell... customs...
a government service that actually works!!
bubs was on the money with the tel advice helpline.
i now have the duty rate, and the ref number for it, caused some consternation over the phone explaining what is is!! basically the issue is that it's a mat and rolls up... for some reason that (and the dimensions) were very important... wierd.
duty is 6.5%, plus VAT on the total cost (ie, incl shipping and insurance)...
i'm working on finding the cheapest seller, then will try to get them to cost up the shipping... do a few sums... et viola! the real cost will be revealed.
but lookin like a shade over £210 each on a very loose mental toting up.
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Hey it's the Flashed guys here,
Noticed your thread here and had to comment. We just want you guys to know we feel your pain. We know our products are hard to get in the UK and Europe right now, it is the same for us trying to get European products here in Canada. We are working on it though. We are currently trying hard to work out a European distributor. If you guys really want to get Flashed stuff in the UK, let your local shops know.
Have already bought from MEC or elsewhere?
Thanks for your time.
-The Flashed Guys
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sorry..
been on Uk bouldering tour for 10 days... just got back on the web!
I will buy from MEC...
BUT
if the pad is the *dogs*
I'm happy to announce that I'll be in disscusions with flashed to get these ronin pads into the UK in bulk..
prices and dates yet to be confirmed.
once the first pad arrives i'll flaunt it about the peak so others can have a go...
then the bulk order is ON!!
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How much has it ended up costing inc taxes etc fatdoc?
These look seriously good. Particularly like the fact that they pack down like that. 8)
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Jasp mate, I PMed you..
but
ARRRGGGHH
mec are out of stock.
I'll get back onto flashed... great plans etc... :'(
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are these really "the shit"?
I've got a canadian relative coming over in a couple of weeks so might ask them if they can get hold of one and bring it over for me, save on import and vat
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few reviews exist, but they do seem worth a good look IMO. It is however a fair chunk of cash..
Stocks seem small form my investigations so far, I'd be really keen to hear what you think of it BTW!
I think a second generation Ronin is in the offing - same pad, different external materials. I'll be trying get one asap, could be a few months though :'(
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where are these available from? MEC?
there is a review on there:
Pros:Durable, High Quality, Light Weight, Many Folding Options, Soft Landings, Thick
Cons:Could be larger, Expensive
Best Uses:Bouldering, Landing on, Sleeping
Bottom Line:Yes, I would recommend this to a friend
Incredible Crash pad. This is the Rolls Royce. You can tell the difference immediatly. it packs up much smaller than others. Its incredibly soft to land on, yet Ive never gone through the pad or felt the ground through it in a harsh way. The soft air cells and velcro design are simply superb at dispersing impact forces.
The ONLY minor gripe i have is that it could be larger. You still need/want a good spotter to ensure you hit the pad. Average-ish size. Stacking with other pads is excellent.
Incredible pad - incomparable really. Expensive.
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MEC have sold out. :'(
I'm sooo up for one of these ;D in the light of a new manufacturing run being made as we speak - with what I'm told is not much different materials I'll be forking out for one as soon as I can get one.
Essentially it seems to me to be a large amount of dosh for what is a top of the range product that allows you to protect yourself. I'm willing to take the chance that it's worth it. If peeps are as impressed as me - and i could be biased in the value for money stakes as my ankle is still damn sore on occasion after bouldering - the increased cost could be seen as worth it to some climbers.
The truth will be in the testing!!
Dont forget the piccie on the flahed site is someone jumping 30ft onto one :jaw:
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Is MEC the only place that sells these?
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MEc were the cheapest i found.
I'm waiting for the *2nd generation* pads coming out in a month.
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Yo guys it's Chris at Flashed,
If you would still like the Ronins from MEC, you can contact their remote sales line at 604-873-6221. They are re-ordering Ronins and would be happy to order a couple extra for you guys provided they have a confirmed sale prior to their order. If you would like, we could ensure that the Ronins you receive will be the 2nd generation models.
If you guys have any questions please give me a shout. My email is chris@flashed.com We really want to get you guys these pads. Please let us know if you work something out with MEC so that we can ensure you get the pads you want.
Thanks for your interest.
Chris
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sent you email mate
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what about trying to set up a group buy or similar? bit of discount for multiple orders etc...
I'd be keen
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Aye, I could be tempted though it'd be nice to see one first. No way of importing a few direct from Flashed?
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no..
not at MEC prices anyway.
Once mine arrives I'll let folk have a bounce on it...
- queue sexual innuendo -
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YES
I've preordered off MEC, God I'm really really excited about this!!
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I had a look at one of these mats in a shop the US. Firstly, they are BIG, even before inflating. About the size of a Franklin Drop Zone, but bulkier, so i guess will be pretty thick once inflated. Also looks really well made; sturddy thich rubber (?) well protected on the outside. Looks great, but not sure about what a pain if would be inflating it, or moving it about once inflated. Also I reckon a pretty big boot would be needed.
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thanks for the info.
i'm waiting for my pre-order to come through. Big is fine by me, better than too small anyways.
I'll report as soon as I can on "what's life like living with a ronin pad".
As for size and packing - i have a van!!
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Has anyone tried these yet? how easily do they pack down? can we get them in the uk yet? or is any online shop willing to ship them over here?
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my order i believe has been shipped. ;D
pack size is large, look at the flashed website .mov
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how long before we get em then ?
planning high(ish)balls as we speak
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not sure, just got odd email off MEC
i'll look into it
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How much did the pad come to with shipping from MEC?
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i've forgot.
i'll search my email when i'm home, work doesnt let me access it (dont ask)...
i've got all the tax stuff details too
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DISASTER
:'(
They cant post the order, it's been cancelled. Something to do woth XPI shipping not taking it as it's too big...
fuck...
right, i'm gonna speak to flashed...
I'm not giving up just yet, though getting the pads from flashed looked well expensive before...
arse.
anyone here live in BC?
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there are people from BC on here...
if you need i can sort you out with a nice reliable guy's email who may be able to post you something over. he works for sugoi, and regularly sends me things that arrive just a few days later. PM me, im sure that ash will not ming helping you out.
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you might want to consider this:
crappy airpad alert (http://web.8a.nu/articles/ShowArticle.aspx?ArticleId=3383&Subject=8a Article)
an airpad made in sweden. ugly as hell and developed in cooperation with 8a.nu. 2 major turn-offs but only 365euros if you're quick and free shipping. Might be the best option for all those old guys here :whistle:.
BD
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I must admit I'm intrigued by this. You're right it looks awful though.
I'd really like to know how or if these compare to the Flashed pads in use rather than in theory before buying though.
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look shite to me...
i'm not making much headway on this, might be asking chappers for his mate to sort me out, just need to get over the expense of my new bike lights first!
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Fatdoc
A Canadian friend of mine is bringing a Ronin across for me at the end of the month - meeting him at Font. So we will test it and if they seem the bogs dollocks then we might look at importing. But we might loan it out for testing to the odd person or 2 - if they renew ;) of course
Cheers
Graeme
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Nice one... keep me informed. I've looked into this in detail as you know. One matter I have not resolved is the dock fees if you import by ship (takes > 6weeks as well).
I have reference numbers from customs re duty rates. As the works is VAT registered this will be easier for you, a lot easier! But I can give you basic ideas of the import rates. I dont know what you paid for with the revolution pad import you did, as the ronins are classed as roll upable mats the rate was in the order of 6.3% on total of all costs including importation freight fees. That's why I tried to get MEC to send me a couple over - the air shipping they charge is way cheap!
If you wanna bring 2 over I'll have one off you!
Of course I'll be looking foreward to a 10% discount from the works if you do import a bulk lot. Being a full member an all ;)
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Talk to you next time you are down the Works
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cool, when you workin?
i can just pop down if you want ;D
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Me too for all this please big G
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there's a market here.. I can smell it :P
more importantly, I want one...
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there's a market here.. I can smell it :P
more importantly, I want one...
A market or a Ronin?
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Jon
I am on lock-up duty tomorrow night (Wednesday) so pop in around 9pm if you can. Have a natter about things. You will be gob smacked to hear that it's not as simple (ie cheap) as it seems even after your research.
Graeme
Ps Dolly, your inclusion in any loaning-for-free-testing-deal depends on your behaviour in the future. You and the good Dr G's behaviour should have seen you committed. Now whether in my eyes that kind of behaviour is to be applauded or condemned is for you to work out :whistle:
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BTW do you think that us buying in a shed load of Pale Rider for future Works slideshows would be a good thing?
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fuck yeah... pale rider must be adored by any man, surely
:alky:
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Right, I have an excuse, hick, to trundle off, hick, to Kelham Island to, hick, attempt to purchase, hick, a large amount of Pale, hick, Rider. Hick.
:alky: :alky: :alky: :alky: :alky: :alky: :alky: :alky: :alky: :alky: :alky: :alky: :alky: :alky: :alky:
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Wow, I love the effect, synchronised drinking, the new Olympic sport!!
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ScUm supporters have been practising synchronised :wank: ing for years.... still doesn't look as good as synchronised :alky: ing. Nice find
Idea of test driving these things before buying is top.
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I'd really like to know how or if these compare to the Flashed pads in use rather than in theory before buying though.
Well Dolly as well as arranging for a Ronin to arrive at the Works in a few weeks we have also just ordered a Swedish airbag so we can do a test between the 2 systems. I reckon we hire a cherrypicker and drop Fatdoc from increasing heights onto both mats until we break him and see which is the best :whistle:
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I'll pay to come and watch as long as I get to drink some of the free Pale Rider :alky:
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This sounds like a great night's entertainment.
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geee,
thanks...
I'll have a go though!!
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This is great great news.
We could charge £5 for anyone who wants to er.. watch.
I guess I should stump up for the Pale Rider to compensate for the behaviour of me and Dr G last time :-[
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Reckon The Works could capture the early market by renting these things out.
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no shit...
I just WANT ONE
as does dolly, dylan, fatboyflimfast and a few others with dislocated ankles / plates in situ... current pads are not the total business
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While neither crippled or old ;) I would like one, partly for the shiny factor and partly due to a congenital disability which makes all climbing a heroic endeavor. :o
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Whilst also interested in seeing one, I'm surprised quite how excited people are getting. Has anyone on here seen one in the flesh let alone actually using one? They may well turn out to be amazing, but if it's only the makers word for it we have so far be prepared they may be a combination of..
(http://dsp.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p1903858dt.jpg)
and
(http://www.transpack.co.uk/i/products/jiffy-large-bubble-wrap.jpg)
Whilst looking for the above pics, stumbled across these...
(http://deadpopstar.com/wp-content/17sep2005/benq0006.jpg)
Now we are talking POTENTIAL!
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Whilst also interested in seeing one, I'm surprised quite how excited people are getting. Has anyone on here seen one in the flesh let alone actually using one? They may well turn out to be amazing, but if it's only the makers word for it we have so far be prepared they may be a combination of..
(http://dsp.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p1903858dt.jpg)
and
(http://www.transpack.co.uk/i/products/jiffy-large-bubble-wrap.jpg)
Whilst looking for the above pics, stumbled across these...
(http://deadpopstar.com/wp-content/17sep2005/benq0006.jpg)
Now we are talking POTENTIAL!
You obviously dont have shagged ankles then obi.
I've seen some reviews, heard 1 recomendation off a mate of a mate. That'll do me.
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I was told (my someone other than the manufacturer) that these things were awesome and they watched the rep jumping onto one from a decent height and challenging other pad manufacturers at the same trade show to do the same with theirs, I don't believe that anyone took him up on that offer!
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i'd be keen to see em. was sceptical but now i have the prospect of permanently quadra-spazzed ankle. its either that or low balls. by the way i fucked my ankle from 4 foot up onto flat ground so be aware its a dangerous sport...
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Thought you were about to flash a 7b+? Was it only 5 foot high ;)
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low crux, feet at 4 foot.
milk me.
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low crux, feet at 4 foot.
milk me.
what?
now I'm seriously distrurbed
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i've got nipples, can you milk me?
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(http://www.xoospace.com/myspace/graphics/20735.jpg)
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I definately got milk
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Dylan, many thanks for purging me of Dense's nipples. I feel saved.
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Those are dense's nipples, he's just had a sex change
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Well the Ronin has landed. Anyone who wants a look pop in to the Works. We might even lend it out for testing.
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i'm there, like sooo there... :thumbsup:
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Well the Ronin has landed. Anyone who wants a look pop in to the Works. We might even lend it out for testing
How long have you got it for G ? - and do you know how much we'd have to pay to get one ?
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depends how high you or I will throw ourselves off the roof of the works dolly, if we dont break ourselves then we'll be ON
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Just used one in NZ for 5 weeks.... They seem to be ok, but not sure they are worth the hassle. They are heavier than most pads, and are a pain to take down and assemble again if your travelling with it and need to collapse it fully. On the other hand, the weight means it doesnt blow away and sits nice and flush to the rock. So no dabs there..... As for landing on it from height, i never did so can't comment on that, but it does seem very good and got nothing but praise from the owner.
My tuppence worth.
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depends how high you or I will throw ourselves off the roof of the works dolly, if we dont break ourselves then we'll be ON
We bought it so its here for keeps. Reckon they are going to cost around £300, depends a bit on the exact cost of shipping. Same price as a Mondo.
They take 10 minutes to strip down or re-make, not that much hassle for flying!
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Hey Fatdoc
How are you getting on with your new blow up toy?? Have you been using it? - any good?
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if your referring to my air pad then in essance it's ace!!
gonna use it a bit more then post something up for your info..
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Both the 8a pad and the Ronin have been out a while now. Anyone else used them?
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I've had a test jump on Fatdoc's and was suitably impressed all i've seen of the 8a pad was Graeme looking bemused by an ill fitting pump.
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50 Ronins arrived in Southampton docks today. They will be winging their way north in the next few days!!!
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Graeme looking bemused by an ill fitting pump.
(http://i38.tinypic.com/33ynszr.jpg)
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:lol:
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Right Sharpe, you're banned ;D
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50 Ronins arrived in Southampton docks today. They will be winging their way north in the next few days!!!
can you put one on the rhs of the comp wall to test ;D
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not an impossible suggestion....
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how much will they retail at?
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50 Ronins arrived in Southampton docks today. They will be winging their way north in the next few days!!!
can you put one on the rhs of the comp wall to test ;D
You mean Bennet Corner ;)
They arrive sometime on Monday.
They will retail at £300. Reassuringly expensive!!
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50 Ronins arrived in Southampton docks today. They will be winging their way north in the next few days!!!
Imagine! 50 of the fuckers!
(http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/8/86/Ronin(Barton)_Head.jpg/440px-Ronin(Barton)_Head.jpg)
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mine's been on loan to FBSF (who's then promptly taken up highballing at stanage as a significant pastime) & Marty et al for the last couple of weeks.. nothing but praise...
I'm thinkin that this is gonna be one highballin winter :great:
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Has anyone bottomed out one of these? They seem mega, i gotta save my pennies.
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The pad: looks like a pad, is carried like a pad and you use it as a pad.
It has the ususal closed cell foam as the an outer sandwich, but doesnt have softer foam on the inside... it has a hundred or so AIR cells in it.. each about the size of a fag pack that are all fixed in strips...
It's the cells that make it special.
On walking over the pad it feels squishy... each small surface area of your footprint deflates some cells, that spontaneously reinflate some 2 - 3 seconds later as your foot leaves the area.
The pad feels really plush, but at this stage doesnt reveal it's true performance.
However, take a fall onto it and progressively more cells are deployed as the closed cell foam spreads the shock load over the surface of the pad. The pad comes back to shape in 2 seconds as above.
So, the shock absorbing ability of the pad is not linear and more of the pad in effect gets used to cushion your fall with progressive deflation of the cells. That's why it's much better at coping with greater and greater impacts.
Nothing is perfect, but this shock absorption system is way way better than foam can ever be.
In addition the cushioning effect it's very reassuring to cash onto from on high, jarring is kept to a minimum.
The way the pad forms around your foot also leaves it less likely for you turn your ankle.
All in all, it's the dogs ;D
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right thats it im sold, cheers Fatdoc. Hopefully the 50 at the works arent all taken. MMMM new toy. Now wheres the credit card ;D
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PM me.
Here on monday dude 8)
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The one Geordie Si was masturbating over felt quite nice, I only got to test it once or twice as I don't fall off much. 8)
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I fall off alot and my knees dont like it. I MUST have a new
toy piece of safety equiment :bounce:
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how big is it compared to a dropzone?
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I can vouch that these pads are awesome, having experienced more falling off than climbing at font.
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Can we have the following please.
Dimensions: inflated and packed.
Weight.
Price inc. postage.
Photo (inflated), posted in this thread.
Thanks.
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http://www.flashed.com/Ronin_2007.pdf (http://www.flashed.com/Ronin_2007.pdf)
I think Graeme was saying £300, no?
That's a lot of money for a pad that is essentially the same size as a dropzone. They only work if you manage to land on them!
I think the technology sounds like the future, but so is that price when I can buy 3 pads for the same price from Moon etc
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photos are dependent on jordisi working out how to switch a computer on. The chances of getting something on here this year are slim.....
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here you go girls. FBSF not falling off.
Si's pics are better.....
(http://[url=http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3183/3030917236_ca959136f8.jpg]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3183/3030917236_ca959136f8.jpg[/url])
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http://www.flashed.com/Ronin_2007.pdf (http://www.flashed.com/Ronin_2007.pdf)
I think Graeme was saying £300, no?
That's a lot of money for a pad that is essentially the same size as a dropzone. They only work if you manage to land on them!
I think the technology sounds like the future, but so is that price when I can buy 3 pads for the same price from Moon etc
they do claim that the FAT cell last 3 times longer than open cell foam so the 300 notes are slightly more justified IMO.
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OK so the foam lasts for 3 times as long but will the cover keep up?
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OK so the foam lasts for 3 times as long but will the cover keep up?
Yes. This has been directly addressed by Flashed. This is the mk II Ronin with rubberised corners, enforced material on the Taco curve etc etc... the build quality is exceptional. Feel free to come and have a look mate.
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50 Ronins arrived in Southampton docks today. They will be winging their way north in the next few days!!!
can you put one on the rhs of the comp wall to test ;D
You mean Bennet Corner ;)
They arrive sometime on Monday.
They will retail at £300. Reassuringly expensive!!
Graeme,
What's the score for ordering online or by phone?
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OK so the foam lasts for 3 times as long but will the cover keep up?
Yes. This has been directly addressed by Flashed. This is the mk II Ronin with rubberised corners, enforced material on the Taco curve etc etc... the build quality is exceptional. Feel free to come and have a look mate.
Cheers!
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Postage looks as if it will work out around £15 including insurance.
We can't do on line ordering but the Works are letting us use their card machine so we will be able to do telephone orders. Best to email me with your mobile number then I can ring you when I am in the Works to sort out payment aldersongraeme@hotmail.com
Cheques should be made out to GA Climbing Consultant and sent to me c/o The Climbing Works, Unit B Centenary Business Park, Little London Rd, Sheffield S8 0UJ.
If anyone wants to pay by EFT email me and I will send my bank details.
Remember Ronins don't fit through standard sized letter boxes so a work address would be best unless you want to be nipping down your local PO sorting office to pick up your pad.
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OK so the foam lasts for 3 times as long but will the cover keep up?
It's not foam!! It's air so it doesn't break down like foam does.
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Are you SURE the F.A.T. cells don't contain open cell foam? I thought thats how they work as the foam provides the force to re-inflate the cells once deployed?
Fatdoc had an analogy with MTB forks but seeing as though I was there to get mine fixed it flew over my head a bit.
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the open cell foam in a FAT cell bears little of the force of taking the fall of the climber as far as I can see / tell. it does seem to provide structure to allow for the FAT cell to reinflate..
I & my middle aged climbin mates are between 2 and 3 stone heavier than any wad and I'm happy to say the pad is standing up fine to what is in effect a righteous pounding!
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Website (well blog really) with info and some piccies (soon) http://roninuk.blogspot.com/ (http://roninuk.blogspot.com/)
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I & my middle aged climbin mates are between 2 and 3 stone heavier than any wad and I'm happy to say the pad is standing up fine to what is in effect a righteous pounding!
Are you sure thats all FD?
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The pads are here. Come and get 'em :o
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on my way :dance1: :dance1: :dance1:
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I used my Ronin for the first time today and it is sweet. Graeme has imported the mark 2 version with improved carrying straps, which are very good, and reinforced cover which seems very durable. It is larger than i thought it would be, it isnt that much smaller than my moon saturn pad.
I fell of the top of 'The Rumour' a few times today, it was like falling onto a bag of kittens. If you have the cash and dodgy knees go get one.
Cheers Graeme, my knees love you :great:
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like falling onto a bag of kittens
Now I have neither the cash or the knees, but the above description really makes me want one! Ronin - get this on your advertising copy sharpish!
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I picked up mine yesterday and will be going out with it tomorrow (weather permitting). I'll let folk know what I think then.
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Ronin - get this on your advertising copy sharpish!
Done :)
http://roninuk.blogspot.com/ (http://roninuk.blogspot.com/)
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hey fatdoc the photo's are all on photobucket..... in the same place as the photos of my bike, give me a call when you get time and i will give you my login details and password and you can get them off...
Cheers Jordy
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I've not used mine in anger yet - but I have set it up and jumped down a flight of stairs on do it - its the business. MY wife even had a go. A very clever piece of kit.
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Anyone else invested in one of these Ronin airpads? Anyone else got a review from either owning one or using someone's at a crag?
Having witnessed one dislocated and broken ankle and one badly sprained ankle recently as well as hearing about two other similar cases I'm wondering if it could be money well spent.
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i witnessed one and had a bit of a jump around on one at quantum field, NZ last year. In all fairness this is probably a bit of a biased review as the owner said it was knackered (all the cells had gone flat and weren't reinflating).
it belonged to some aussie crusty who informed me that luckily he knew the distributor and would be getting a replacement sharpish. the cover looked well tatty as well, although I imagine that if it had seen enough abuse to do in the cells then the cover wouldn't put up much resistance.
I'm assuming that given it's age this was a Mk I and therefore this is not a review of the ones currently for sale.
it was damn heavy as well though.
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It seems well made and well thought out and given me a bit more confidence. Its heavier than the Moon pad I have but certainly absorbs impact better. I guess if it encourages you to try harder, higher then in general the proportion of ankle and similar injuries will be similar. My biggest fall this year I missed all the mats landed on a boulder and rolled down a slope unharmed.
It is money well spent if you want to highball, have bad ankles, have the funds, like new kit and are generally concerned about getting injured which is usually costly one or another.
Bouldering helmets next ? Think boxing ones would be good - endorsed by Rich Simpson perhaps.
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Bouldering helmets next ? Think boxing ones would be good - endorsed by Rich Simpson perhaps.]
You jest. Seen those shock absorbing beanies they sell down the works?
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So over the last couple of days I have bought (at the new discounted price of £250), assembled and tested my new Ronin pad.
Buying was the hard bit overcoming my natural Yorkshire reluctance to spend money. Fortunately when I picked it up Dolly 'accidently' left some bottles of beer in my car which helped a little.
Assembly was easy if you follow the instructions. As a bloke I obviously didn't even download the flashed instructions until after I'd built the thing so it took a bit of trial and error to get to the same procedure that they use. This did save me from having to watch Strictly ... though.
Using it is the best bit because it means you are out bouldering. I managed to carry it to the crag, sorry boulders, and jump off on it lots due to my lack of strength. I then walked back to the car and drove home, apparently with my legs no less bandy than when I started out and with no broken ankles
Is it worth £250? I reckon my ankles and knees are worth ten times that each. That makes a saving of £9,750 every time I jump off onto it. A bargain really ...
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This did save me from having to watch Strictly
Do they work for X Factor too?
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Just a bit of a heads up guys.
With the increase in bouldering over routes at this time of year there have been quite a few ronin sales recently...
From getting slayed by the exchange rate during the global financial disaster we at ronin UK will need further sales before ordering another batch. Essentially we need to sell a higher fraction of the initial consignment to break even...
This could lead to a time lag for the next import.
If you are considering a Ronin I suggest you buy sooner rather than later.. As availablility could be limited for a little while.
Cheers.
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:lol:
Tough times at RoninUK towers.....
Global financial disaster..... Time lag......... Higher fraction.......... Initial consignment...... Limited availability........
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How can I order one?
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How can I order one?
Here let me :google: that for you (http://tinyurl.com/yzqo22r)
Top hit is fatdoc's I believe, Climbing Works stock them too.
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Slack,
Some people do search before posting you know! No purchase availability on blog or climbing works site.
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Phone The Works. They'll prob do it over the phone. Graeme may come on here and tell you otherwise, and tell me to stop conjecturising (sounds like it could be a word).
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Slack,
Some people do search before posting you know! No purchase availability on blog or climbing works site.
Some people don't know if others have searched unless they indicate they have done so, e.g.
I've had a look at the Works and Ronin blog but they've not got any for sale, any pointers on where I can grab one
(and I'll use any excuse to use lmgtfy!)
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defo the works...
I will be bolstering their stocks over the weekend