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Title: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: fatdoc on June 19, 2007, 11:36:46 am
Right,

whats the true demand for this stuff?? i know those that have it (incl me) swear by it.

I know you cannot get it in england, and similar product searches have failed me

i know from a retail point of view that 1 tube will last over a year, even been used frequently - obviously not good for the retailer.


Sooooooo annnnyywaaay........ what I was thinking is getting together with a mad German inventor / product distributer (really, he's a mate) and getting a wad load in. He will sort out the import - but i'd have to do sales :(

Now, i dont fancy a garage full of stump cream that i cant shift...


Incl admin / import etc.. i was thinking  about £10 a tube. Start small, personal post to start with then if demand is there (doubt it myself) sell on to retailers


So, who would want some then ;D
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Krank on June 19, 2007, 11:52:07 am
I will go for a tube at £10, a bargain.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: webbo on June 19, 2007, 08:46:52 pm
fats did you see my post below i.e. english stump cream, is this a similar product.i didn't get chance to check it out as i was doing a psychy assessment on a guy who'd been prescribed it for excessive sweating.it didn't seem appropriate to ask to try some.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: fatdoc on June 19, 2007, 09:18:16 pm
webbo mate give me all the details you have please...


c'mon guys, if you want easy access to this stuff i need an idea on the user base before i spend wads on stuff i cant shift!!

Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: webbo on June 19, 2007, 09:28:23 pm
its anhydrol forte trade name dermal.its in the bnf.comes as a roll on.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: fatdoc on June 20, 2007, 08:34:18 am
i'll look into this... and get some.

expect a test result in the near future... though i'm concerned you wont get the same effect due to the delivery method

thanks for the info
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: SA Chris on June 20, 2007, 08:39:45 am
I'm good, still got half a tube from last order.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: sasscotty on June 20, 2007, 10:13:06 am
Ive got a mate who would definitely have some of this cream stuff off you. He is a pharmacist and has really bad office hands. So just looking at grit makes his hands sore. I'd be quite interested in trying some as well.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: ouch on June 20, 2007, 11:11:35 am
you can put me down for a couple of tubes.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Norton Sharley on June 20, 2007, 11:42:10 am
Wouldn't it be easier if everyone who went went to Switzerland bouldering just bought a few tubes over the counter, as you can, brought them home and flogged them on the forum?

I have a couple of tubes for sale which at fatdoc price of £10 a tube is a winner for me !  :oops:

pm me if you want a tube, not exactly sure how many i have got.

Sorry Jon
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Bubba on June 20, 2007, 02:37:29 pm

I just bought mine from a German website who nicely sent it to my house without me having to do anything bar click a few buttons :)
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: GaryB on June 20, 2007, 02:56:55 pm
^^ Which site?
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Bubba on June 20, 2007, 03:05:35 pm
Fatdoc will kill me if I tell you :)

I'll be destroying his new business empire before it's started  :lol:
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: fatdoc on June 21, 2007, 09:54:37 am
i'm not fussed about the now near defunct business venture... just i'm paranoid that i'll run out of the stuff!! i have an anithyral dependancy !!

didn't we get some huge order through about 2 years ago on here??

bubba mate - as you have www. site could i ask you to consider bringing 30 tubes over and we'll have them off yuo a £10 per time??

 :please:
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Bubba on June 21, 2007, 12:25:56 pm

http://mycare.de/home_52729_ANTIHYDRAL__Suche_antihydralx_0_.html

When it asks for your address details, careful how you put them in as their formatting is different to ours.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: fatdoc on June 21, 2007, 12:48:43 pm
i'll get my mad german mate on the case, thsnks bub
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: saltbeef on June 21, 2007, 08:06:22 pm
i'll have some if you get some fatdoc.
since starting to have to scrub up most days my skin is absolute ratshit
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: GaryB on June 22, 2007, 10:00:16 am
G

http://mycare.de/home_52729_ANTIHYDRAL__Suche_antihydralx_0_.html

When it asks for your address details, careful how you put them in as their formatting is different to ours.

Good work :D
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: bouldermonkey on June 26, 2007, 03:28:14 pm
I'd take a tube.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Bubba on June 26, 2007, 06:40:12 pm
I'd take a tube.  :thumbsup:

Keep your sexual preferences to yourself please.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: moose on June 27, 2007, 12:00:43 pm
What's the verdict on this stuff from the long-term users?  I am mainly interested in the skin-thickening / hardiness enhancing effects as due to a bout of sudden unemployment I plan to do a lot of climbing in the near future so anything that might reduce the deterioration would be a godsend. 

A potential problem for me though is that I don't tend to suffer from sweaty hands (I suspect the glands involved have been destroyed by my lab-work) so if anything my skin is possibly a bit too dry - lots of hard cornified skin near the joints that needs sanding away occassionally.  Would Anti-hydral use give me skin like a rhino auditioning for the Singing Detective.  Or would any problems be managable - from what I can remember you only put it on very occassionally and can presumably moisturise in the meantime?
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: GaryB on July 02, 2007, 09:33:41 am
Is this stuff like liquid chalk?
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: dave on July 02, 2007, 09:46:32 am
£10 per tube is a pisstake. When Mark ordered a batch from germany on behalf of everyone on here a few years back I think i ended up with 3 tubes for £11. bearing in mind one tube of this lasted john welford 10 years or something you don't need much. Its not for regular use - all that will acheive is bullet hard tips with no feeling that will split open as soon as you touch a sharp crystal. There is a (perhaps exagerated tale) of sam whittaker using this regularly, getting a papercut and it taking a fortnight to heal up. You should be using antihydral to try and get some more mileage out of your skin on a font trip, or drying up a split so you can sand it away, that type of thing.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Jim on July 02, 2007, 10:46:18 am
listen to Dave, wise words.
Definatley not for regular use
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: fatdoc on July 02, 2007, 11:34:32 am
£10 per tube is a pisstake. When Mark ordered a batch from germany on behalf of everyone on here a few years back I think i ended up with 3 tubes for £11. bearing in mind one tube of this lasted john welford 10 years or something you don't need much. Its not for regular use - all that will acheive is bullet hard tips with no feeling that will split open as soon as you touch a sharp crystal. There is a (perhaps exagerated tale) of sam whittaker using this regularly, getting a papercut and it taking a fortnight to heal up. You should be using antihydral to try and get some more mileage out of your skin on a font trip, or drying up a split so you can sand it away, that type of thing.

you dont want it for £10... dont but it then mate. Only trying to help here you know, as you say 1 tube lasts a long long time.

as for regular use: skin types vary a lot, as do washing habits. Not that i'm calling you unwashed but there are a fair few jobs out there where 30 times plus a day hand washing is the norm.
In such circumstances regular (for me once a week) is the least i need to get some sort of sustainable skin base. I agree totally that if you overdo it then you get wierd thick skin on your tips that can be prone to hideous splits - it's not some miracle skin cure but with a bit of common sense it can really give you more days out on the rock / down the wall. Not such a price to pay me thinks.

if you want to undercut me and sell it all off be my guest, i'll have 3 tubes.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Norton Sharley on July 02, 2007, 11:48:03 am
For what it is worth I spent four weeks in MW applying this stuff daily to try and keep my skin going and then took a week off driving from there to Font and doing some other stuff on the way.  First day in Font I split four tips including one double split that formed a perfect double chevron.  Couldn't climb for a week  :wall: Fortunately being Font in November it rained non stop and then cleared up when my tips were sorted.  8)

The moral of the story is if you are using anti-hydral make sure you are climbing regularly to wear down the thick layer of dead skin.  If you use it a lot and then stop climbing make sure you sand and moisurise - my skin just got too thick and tough on the surface. 

Will dig out the pictures of my tips this evening if I can be arsed.

Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: dave on July 02, 2007, 12:03:54 pm
£10 per tube is a pisstake. When Mark ordered a batch from germany on behalf of everyone on here a few years back I think i ended up with 3 tubes for £11. bearing in mind one tube of this lasted john welford 10 years or something you don't need much. Its not for regular use - all that will acheive is bullet hard tips with no feeling that will split open as soon as you touch a sharp crystal. There is a (perhaps exagerated tale) of sam whittaker using this regularly, getting a papercut and it taking a fortnight to heal up. You should be using antihydral to try and get some more mileage out of your skin on a font trip, or drying up a split so you can sand it away, that type of thing.

you dont want it for £10... dont but it then mate. Only trying to help here you know, as you say 1 tube lasts a long long time.

I'm not having a go, i'm just saying the tubes cos about €5 in germany (about £3), plus a small amount of postage split over the number of tubes you're ordering aught not to add up to £10. But if people are willing to pay £10 for a product they can get hold of themselves for £3 then good luck to you! its a market economy afterall.

http://www.apotheke-online-internet.de/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=ANTIHYDRAL
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Bubba on July 02, 2007, 12:23:38 pm

It really depends on your skin with this stuff - I've never split a tip from climbing, ever; even doing repetitive traverses on sharp old-school sheffield outdoor walls that would havoc some peoples skin after a few goes.
I can use AH once a week for ages with no problems whatsoever. But if you're the sort of person prone to splits then i'd be *really* careful with it.

Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Fiend on July 02, 2007, 01:21:38 pm
All this after I sold one of my tubes on to Fatdoc for a mere fiver  :spank: :P
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Bubba on July 02, 2007, 01:23:55 pm
OMG Fatdoc is fatcat ripping off the climbing population :lol:
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: fatdoc on July 02, 2007, 01:55:15 pm
All this after I sold one of my tubes on to Fatdoc for a mere fiver  :spank: :P

did you? i honestly thought it was for a tenner fiend!

annnyywayyyy...
i'll try to get some soon, and it'll b a tenner. (expt for fiend)
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Norton Sharley on July 02, 2007, 03:02:46 pm
OMG Fatdoc is fatcat ripping off the climbing population :lol:

he didn't get rich any old how  ::)
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: GCW on July 02, 2007, 03:49:47 pm
This is unfortunate.  A few months ago I came across 5000 tubes of this stuff in a warehouse up my way.  I managed to get away with 2500 of them before the police turned their sniffer dogs my way.  My plan was to sell them at £7.50 a pop, so I hid them away from prying eyes in a safe place.  Unfortunately, the grey bouldering mat I put them in got misplaced somewhere in Wales.
I hear Osama bin Laden has split tips that won't heal  :o
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: fatdoc on July 03, 2007, 12:22:00 pm
first order placed today.

hope it to be here early nxt week.

PMs to me if you want some guys - limited order - so first come first served, £10 a tube (includes P+P to UK mainland + will deliver to climbing wrks)

Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: fatdoc on July 11, 2007, 09:50:30 am
IT'S HERE. :great:

er... might have ordered too much!!! Spread the word.



Right, i have to speak to my mad german friend who has a paypal account to get the details for that form of payment. Otherwise it's a tenner in the post (yes, I know it's a bit dodgy - but for some that might be the only way they can get me the cash) or a cheque.... which will have to clear before postage. Due me having a rather annoying habit of full time employment I cant get to the psot office more than once of twice a week, so delivery could be 5 (paypal and cash) to 12 working days (cheque)

£10 gets you 1 tube, P&P and an info sheet as so not to totally over do it and split your tips. :goodidea:

Oh yeah, most evenings I can meet peeps at the climbingworks, for that personal touch.


Once I've got half a ton of jiffy bags in I'll be starting to offer shipment start of next week.


To save turning bubba's ad free forum into a skin product supermarket please PM me for more details.

dont forget, I have tons of this stuff, tell your mates, your mum, your dog whoever!!

Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Bubba on July 11, 2007, 10:01:37 am
Fatdoc, seen yesterday at antihydral hq

(http://manolomen.com/images/Gordon%20Gekko.jpg)
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: fatdoc on July 11, 2007, 12:05:33 pm
ta!

do i get his wage then??
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Houdini on July 11, 2007, 03:07:41 pm
I am mainly interested in the thickening / hardening enhancing effects...  I suspect the glans involved have been destroyed by my lab-work

Just what kind of labwork do you , er, do, Moose?
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: lorentz on July 13, 2007, 12:59:05 am
Huh huh... He said glans.

FD have pm'd you.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: fatdoc on July 13, 2007, 10:43:05 am
paypal to be sorted over the weekend, will keep you all posted
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Bubba on July 13, 2007, 11:20:20 am
do i get his wage then??

You already earn more than him :)
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: fatdoc on July 13, 2007, 12:32:57 pm
Alas not so bubs... :'(
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: fatdoc on July 21, 2007, 10:17:07 am
 :great: OK, got the cream, done the information sheets, got a website that takes all the payment options I could think of  :great:

www.econix.co.uk

look under medicines and off you go. the info sheet is also on the site.

price is £10 as promised, but as I priced it all up forgetting VAT I'll be reviewing this at the end of August / when my stocks run out!
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Bubba on July 21, 2007, 02:11:29 pm

Nice on - that's Nick's site right?

But you don't want to price yourself out of the market man - who's going to pay £12.93 when you can get it for half that elsewhere?
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: fatdoc on July 21, 2007, 06:40:19 pm
it's a tenner... if the vat has been added to the site by mistake i'll sort it.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Bubba on July 22, 2007, 10:01:08 am

No i meant the price *after* the tenner introductory price :)

I think a tenner if fine tbh - a lot of folks can't be bothered with the hassle of deciphering a german website and waiting a week to get the stuff....
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: fatdoc on July 22, 2007, 10:32:54 am
yeah,

you're probably right i admitt. I'll have a chat to the bloke actually getting it in (i'm just doing the postage bit!!). at the end of the day I just want this stuff freely and easily available - lets face it, it's not ever gonna be a big earner... but i reckon there a lot of peeps out there that could more climbing done if they use it sensibly.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Dave Westlake on July 22, 2007, 11:25:59 pm
Just placed an order  :great:

did it through the fatdoc empire as my german skills are lacking (and it wouldnt have been that much cheaper anyway).

Does anyone have any knowledge on how this stuiff works when dealing with razor sharp crimps (non - grit)? 

ill report back on my experience with the stuff!

cheers fatdoc!
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: fatdoc on July 23, 2007, 09:05:30 am
your climbers information sheet (enclosed witht the cream) will suggest to you how to use antihydral... if you have divots / splits then get filling those pads smooth prior to using the cream, your skin base really needs to be uniform in depth before applying!
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: i.munro on August 02, 2007, 12:15:45 pm

Anybody else been a lazy a%se & ordered from the fatdoc empire?
How long did it take?

Thanks

Ian
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: saltbeef on August 02, 2007, 11:28:13 pm
it took about 15mins for me to drive round.
it works very well, climbed 6 days out of 8 in magic wood, and my skin was probably betterr when i returned than when i went out! bit glassy now like, but consistent sanding and moisturisation seem to be sorting it out.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: a dense loner on August 03, 2007, 12:42:20 pm
used it the same length of time as beefus. came off fingerboard yesterday at high speed, thought i'd broke my knee and seperated 2 fingernails from their bed. to quote a better man than i  "that shit's not going near my fingers ever again"
good on granite tho, anything else n it's lethal
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Monolith on August 03, 2007, 09:09:42 pm
came off fingerboard yesterday at high speed, thought i'd broke my knee and seperated 2 fingernails from their bed.

Talk us through it Lee..

That sounds the most high octane event in the history of the modern world - On par to your average night out in Liverpool.

Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: a dense loner on August 04, 2007, 10:11:03 am
it was too intense to talk about. couldn't sleep last night for flashbacks
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Jim on August 05, 2007, 05:36:43 pm
you got a fingerboard in the car?
thats commitment
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: i.munro on August 06, 2007, 05:32:13 pm
used it the same length of time as beefus. came off fingerboard yesterday at high speed

Ok, bear with me please, I'm trying to work out what's going on with this stuff before I try it.

As far as I can work out the active ingredient is methenamine which is primarily an antibacterial but seems also to be used to treat excessive sweating (hyperhidrosis).

Sounds good for climbing then if it reduces sweating. However you guys seem to be describing a third effect of skin thickening. (i'm not so keen on this as I've never really had a problem so I'm happy with my finger skin as it is).

Have people noticed a reduction in sweating?
Is it possible the fingerboard thing you describe is due to this (perhaps the extra friction made you slip suddenly rather than gradually?). Were you on slopier edges than usual?

Thanks.

Ian
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Paul B on August 06, 2007, 06:12:29 pm
Dense came round for a drink the other morning, I could see that his finger tips were a funny colour from the otherside of the room, didn't look good.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: i.munro on August 06, 2007, 06:35:19 pm
Dense came round for a drink the other morning, I could see that his finger tips were a funny colour from the otherside of the room, didn't look good.

That side-effect is described in the stuff I found on treating hyperhidrosis.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: fatdoc on August 10, 2007, 08:08:14 pm
OK...

look..

use it sparingly.. as i suggest in the info sheet (not just with the cream, but freely available on the site)

and this stuff really can help...

there are no doubts there.

slap it on like a mad man and you get splits..unless you sand and moisturise..

yes... it does reduce sweating.

end of the day it's common sense - you wouldnt neck brufen 6 times a day just to do a route... without wondering about the results..

it's an aid to good skin..

use it wisely and it'll help you.

honest!
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: a dense loner on August 11, 2007, 10:38:20 am
luckily this shits starting to come off my skin now. 2 wks and razor pockets later. never boulder in south shields, makes angel bay look good

ian, fingerboard thing was due to a number of factors, hot, not much chalk, weak, glistening leather skin etc. i thought the stuff was good while using it but i can't seem to hold wood with it. feel free to amuse yourselves with that last sentence
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: account_inactive on August 11, 2007, 10:54:34 am
You also have to remember they call him Dense for a reason

There's a great force going through that fingerboard young jedi
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: i.munro on August 12, 2007, 03:37:54 pm
ian, fingerboard thing was due to a number of factors, hot, not much chalk, weak, glistening leather skin etc. i thought the stuff was good while using it but i can't seem to hold wood with it. feel free to amuse yourselves with that last sentence

Ok I'm going to try it on one hand only for now & try & compare. That's good science, a sample group of one!!
I'll report back.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Jaspersharpe on August 20, 2007, 02:42:41 pm
I used it sparingly (as per the supplied instructions) in the week before and during the week I have just spent in Font.

My skin was fine for the whole week, never even getting sore to the point that I thought about it stopping me from climbing. I've got a few big chunks of flesh missing but that's down to trying hard/slapping too much, the skin is still perfect.

The same cannot be said for the rest of my body which felt as if I had been on the receiving end of a serious kicking by the end of the week. In fact on the last day at Cuvier I felt physically sick with exhaustion before during and after climbing. I mention this only to point out that I did a fair bit of climbing (although yes, I am really unfit too) and the skin came through unscathed.

I also used/use Dream Cream from Lush which is way better than E45 or anything else I have tried as a moisturiser. Perhaps this helped to reduce the "glassiness" factor.

Anti-hydral twice a week and Dream Cream every night. Job's a good un. 8)

Oh and my usually ridiculously sweaty hands were merely sweaty so I reckon it helps with that too.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: i.munro on August 20, 2007, 03:18:15 pm

Oh and my usually ridiculously sweaty hands were merely sweaty so I reckon it helps with that too.

Thanks Jas that's encouraging. I guess you had decent weather (at least dry) if you got that much done?

Ian
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: SA Chris on August 20, 2007, 03:20:10 pm
You also have to remember they call him Dense for a reason

Is he so dense that he actually absorbs light, which is why he has such a gloomy outlook?
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Jaspersharpe on August 20, 2007, 03:29:32 pm

Thanks Jas that's encouraging. I guess you had decent weather (at least dry) if you got that much done?

Ian

Yes ta. One day of really heavy rain but good for the rest of the week and it being Font everything was dry by morning. Fantastic trip. :)
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: i.munro on August 20, 2007, 05:31:53 pm
Bit of a hijack but I've seen this Dream Cream recommended for Eczema.
Don't suppose anyone knows anything about that?

Ian
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Jaspersharpe on August 21, 2007, 09:50:36 am
Yes. It works really well. I used to get patches of dry skin on my body (not actually eczema but getting that way) and also skin irritations on my hands. Dream Cream sorted it all out in a matter of days.

I've recommended it to friends who have eczema and they've all found it to work. Apparently some doctors prescribe it rather than E45.

This is why I started trying it on my tips. It's really very good.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: i.munro on August 21, 2007, 12:46:50 pm
Thanks. May have to try it.

Ian
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Houdini on August 23, 2007, 01:28:32 pm
Is the UK postage really £8 ?!
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: fatdoc on August 23, 2007, 04:23:51 pm
no.

why do you say that?
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Houdini on August 27, 2007, 05:40:49 pm
Rumour/tittle-tattle...
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: i.munro on August 28, 2007, 12:45:24 pm
After trying this stuff on left hand only for several weeks (if anyone is interested) results are very cautiously positive.

Compared to the control (right) hand there seems to be a very slight reduction in sweatiness ( so slight it could well be placebo effect) but no negative results or side effects. Both hands are the same colour & everything.

Ian
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: ouch on September 25, 2007, 02:06:07 pm
Should I use a film of cream thin enough to still be able to see my fingerprints through it or should I use more?? :-\

I dont want to ruin me skin with a trip coming up but I also want to make it a bit "stronger" so I can climb more 

Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Nibile on September 25, 2007, 02:57:52 pm
i dare to say that skin is good for climbing when it's elastic also.
with hard, dry skin you risk that one single move on a sharp hold rips and entire pad.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: ouch on September 25, 2007, 03:17:37 pm
i dare to say that skin is good for climbing when it's elastic also.
with hard, dry skin you risk that one single move on a sharp hold rips and entire pad.


Yeah I'm keen to avoid tips that resemble tracing paper, that's why I'm being (over?)cautious with it.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Jaspersharpe on September 25, 2007, 03:47:45 pm
Doesn't have to be a ridiculously thin coating. Just make sure you use a moisturiser of some sort (I use Dream Cream) too and you should avoid the tips getting glassy. And stick to the instructions, only twice a week will do.

Disclaimer: This works for me but may not be ideal for anyone else.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Johnny Brown on September 25, 2007, 05:54:26 pm
Where do y'all get this dream cream shizzle - chemists? Question?
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Jaspersharpe on September 25, 2007, 05:55:36 pm
Lush. The girls shop that you can smell from 200 yards away.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Jim on September 25, 2007, 05:57:01 pm
Its from Lush (http://www2.lush.com/cgi-bin/lushdb/31)
I've not used it yet but I was recomending cowboyhat try some.
I should be getting some soon.
Maybe good on the 'devil' hand
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Jaspersharpe on September 25, 2007, 06:00:54 pm
I can't recommend it enough. Proper magic shit imvho. 8)
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Johnny Brown on September 25, 2007, 06:03:10 pm
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My boyfried also uses it, it's a scent we can both enjoy together.

Hmmm, feedback on the site ain't that great. Can it really top Eliz Arden? Worth a go I suppose. So are there actual Lush shops on 'the high street' then? I don't go into town you see, no use for it.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Jim on September 25, 2007, 06:05:57 pm
go to "see all reviews" unfortunatley for them the not so good ones are on the top.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Paul B on September 25, 2007, 06:26:14 pm
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My boyfried also uses it, it's a scent we can both enjoy together.

Hmmm, feedback on the site ain't that great. Can it really top Eliz Arden? Worth a go I suppose. So are there actual Lush shops on 'the high street' then? I don't go into town you see, no use for it.

There's one in Sheffield, as Jasper said just follow your nose...
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: i.munro on September 26, 2007, 05:23:22 pm
Ahh a discussion on the relative merits of moisturisers!
Trouble with adventure sports is all the macho BS

Ian
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Paul B on October 06, 2007, 06:46:52 pm
I turned up at the board one night and found two of Sheffields strongest comparing notes on hair conditioners! I kid you not.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Pantontino on October 07, 2007, 05:30:44 pm
On Jasper's rec I mail ordered some of that Dream Cream. (the nearest Lush shop to me is in Chester - about an hour's drive) I'm not sure if this is a coincidence, but since using it my skin has come really good, smooth and uniform 'n' all that. I have started a more regular climbing pattern after a bit of a break in August/sept, so maybe this would have happened anyway? I've also bought some of fatdoc's antihydral, but I don't reckon I'll touch that until I get to Font.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Paul B on October 07, 2007, 06:37:47 pm
out of interest how long does a pot of dream cream last because at 8.75 a pot it seemed a little pricey.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Pantontino on October 07, 2007, 08:03:03 pm
Not sure yet, ages I would have thought.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: dave on October 07, 2007, 11:41:08 pm
out of interest how long does a pot of dream cream last because at 8.75 a pot it seemed a little pricey.

I'm sure if you have a nice word with fatdoc he can sort you out with a tube for £25.

 ;) :lol:
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: fatdoc on October 08, 2007, 10:20:53 am
negative karma dutifully applied
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: dave on October 08, 2007, 10:49:12 am
If you can't take a bit of feedback on your pricing stucture then don't set yourself up as a retailer and advertise your stuff for free on a public forum. when i slag off the prices of fiveten shoes in outside, or planetfear's prana yoga mats they manage not to take it personally.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Jaspersharpe on October 08, 2007, 11:32:33 am
when i slag off the prices of fiveten shoes in outside, or planetfear's prana yoga mats they manage not to take it personally.

So it's your fault planetfear went bust.

A pot of dream cream lasts fucking ages.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: a dense loner on October 08, 2007, 11:53:01 am
you're not wrong, i manage to get some out every morning
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: fatdoc on October 08, 2007, 12:14:57 pm
Dense you're truly insane  :)

Dave, calm down... you make a comment i take personally, I give you -ve karma. If everyone agreed with everything then no forum would exist. No big deal. You got +ve karma from me only last week, again no big deal.

As regards the pubilc forum based sale of antihydral: it's a niche product that I assist in the sales of for use by uk boulderers. If it's availability wasnt made evident on here then where on the web would it be seen to those potential users on the product in the UK?

As jasper says one tube lasts some years, for the cost you get a lot of skin, yet I'm not a commerical outlet and have to cover the costs of the web shop hosting. I've made enough profit for a takeaway pizza and a few beers... that's it. If you drag through this entire thread it seems self evident to me that although profit has been made by me the *fatdoc empire* has always been a rather tongue in cheeck affair with the sole intention of allowing non German speakers the chance to get Antihydral rapidly from us here in the UK.

Unlike climbing retailers I'm not looking to generate an income stream from this.

So yes, I take it personally.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: chappers on October 08, 2007, 03:04:49 pm
rapidly

how fast? off to font in half term (2 weeks). why oh why is there a postal strike now??
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: fatdoc on October 09, 2007, 12:39:09 pm
er...

er...

er...

if you're driving down past sheff i could leave some in my porch...be a 40 min detour off J33 to get to mine and then back onto the M1 at J29...

got any mates going with you from south yorks??

i reckon the post is now shagged for weeks, with backlogs etc.. i usually post normal 1st class. a courier would be a bit damn expensive IMO

BTW, they sell it in the climbingworks, could you break the journey stop in there and pick some up??

just a few ideas, let me know if you have any others that you want to persue...
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: i.munro on October 09, 2007, 12:45:51 pm
rapidly

how fast? off to font in half term (2 weeks). why oh why is there a postal strike now??


Just trying to organise a trip coming back around the 20th. Could hand my tube on as I leave
if you're around & if I manage to get it sorted.

Ian
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Carnage on October 09, 2007, 11:43:13 pm
with the sole intention of allowing non German speakers the chance to get Antihydral rapidly from us here in the UK

For an english speaking website, You can get it from the States too (better exchange rate for me.)

http://foosdirect-store.stores.yahoo.net/antihydral.html

Their user directions are a bit iffy tho.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: webbo on October 10, 2007, 08:13:23 am
fatdoc.i've just read that one of the t.mobile cycling team has got busted for using sibutramine an appetite suppressant.i reckon you'd be better off flogging that on here rather than stump cream.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: a dense loner on October 10, 2007, 10:08:50 am
i'd get some of that for jim. would be interesting to see what he could do if he lost 4 stone :o
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: unclesomebody on October 10, 2007, 10:31:40 am
I don't think Jim needs an appetite suppressant. He eats semi sensible quantities. What he does need, however, is some sort of beer suppressant. Imagine a Jim who hadn't drunk for a couple of months, but had been training in Gorton's new premier training facility.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Jim on October 10, 2007, 10:44:43 am
i'd get some of that for jim. would be interesting to see what he could do if he lost 4 stone :o
I told you lot before. This is my training body, when I'm happy with my strength then I'm going to start getting into shape and crush all the hard problems you lot can't do
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: webbo on October 10, 2007, 11:26:59 am
I don't think Jim needs an appetite suppressant. He eats semi sensible quantities. What he does need, however, is some sort of beer suppressant. Imagine a Jim who hadn't drunk for a couple of months, but had been training in Gorton's new premier training facility.

you might like to try antabuse.which makes you throw up and you get the worse headache known to mankind if you drink any alcohol.it gives you a hangover before  you get pissed.or you could try acamprosate which gets rid of the cravings.
maybe fatdoc could go private and run a sports injury/eating disorder/substance misuse/dermatology clinic.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: SA Chris on October 10, 2007, 11:53:15 am

you might like to try antabuse.which makes you throw up and you get the worse headache known to mankind if you drink any alcohol.it

I think someone must be slipping that into my drinks these days?
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: fatdoc on October 10, 2007, 05:19:30 pm
fatdoc.i've just read that one of the t.mobile cycling team has got busted for using sibutramine an appetite suppressant.i reckon you'd be better off flogging that on here rather than stump cream.

i'll have to pass comment on that one webbo. for legal reasons.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: fatdoc on October 10, 2007, 05:20:43 pm
I don't think Jim needs an appetite suppressant. He eats semi sensible quantities. What he does need, however, is some sort of beer suppressant. Imagine a Jim who hadn't drunk for a couple of months, but had been training in Gorton's new premier training facility.

you might like to try antabuse.which makes you throw up and you get the worse headache known to mankind if you drink any alcohol.it gives you a hangover before  you get pissed.or you could try acamprosate which gets rid of the cravings.
maybe fatdoc could go private and run a sports injury/eating disorder/substance misuse/dermatology clinic.

that is not beyond the realm of reason  ;)
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Pantontino on November 15, 2007, 11:25:08 pm
Used the dream cream/antihydral combination in Font the other week. Worked a treat. I'm officially impressed. As others have said: 'came back with better skin that what I had when I left'. The only people who had skin problems on the trip were those who didn't use the antihydral.

On Hock's recommendation (he'd experimented with the antihydral in Alberracin earlier in the year) we used it in the evening after each climbing day - 1 hour, just on the centre of the pad. Then lots of moisturising and sanding. Seemed like there was a tendency to develop a hard cap on the end of the finger tip, even though this wasn't getting the treatment. This was fine with a bit of sanding though.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Philidawg on January 07, 2008, 07:23:45 pm

www.econix.co.uk

look under medicines and off you go. the info sheet is also on the site.


Is this stuff still available?

I've looked on the website but can't seem to find it - or am I just being thick? ???
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: fatdoc on January 08, 2008, 11:27:51 am
i'm getting some more in, will be on a different site.... however i've been a bit disorganised about the whole thing... if your german's up to it have a look on the sites mentioned earlier on in the thread.
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: Philidawg on January 18, 2008, 12:52:26 pm
if your german's up to it have a look on the sites mentioned earlier on in the thread.

The old 'O' level German turned out to be not too bad, stuff arrived this morning. :ang:

Sorry to be a pain but is the information sheet curently available anywhere? ;)
Title: Re: Anti Hydral, who wants some then??
Post by: fatdoc on January 18, 2008, 12:53:58 pm
PM me with your email address..
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