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Title: is cofe's finger better?
Post by: cofe on December 06, 2005, 01:07:58 pm
well, is it or wot?
Title: is cofe's finger better?
Post by: dave on December 06, 2005, 01:23:13 pm
I can't remember when your injury dates back to, but my advice is find out how long a rest scouse allows for a finger injury, then times it by six.......teen.


So based on that, if you did your finger longer than 32 days ago, then i say i must be alright.
Title: is cofe's finger better?
Post by: saltbeef on December 06, 2005, 01:25:59 pm
how do i know? we need details( I'm referring to me as we)
Title: is cofe's finger better?
Post by: cofe on December 06, 2005, 01:33:54 pm
Quote from: "saltbeef"
how do i know? we need details( I'm referring to me as we)


come on. i'm not going to do the work for you :roll:
Title: is cofe's finger better?
Post by: webbo on December 06, 2005, 02:20:15 pm
no.you're still injured i'd take a couple more years rest.
Title: is cofe's finger better?
Post by: clm on December 06, 2005, 05:45:45 pm
better than mine? no way

better than lee's clicky obsessive compulsive little finger?  definately
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Post by: Jim on December 06, 2005, 05:48:45 pm
least its not as bad as leroy's
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Post by: Johnny Brown on December 06, 2005, 05:53:28 pm
word I've got a bad finger too, but sometimes its just great to get out and move over rock again  :wink: you don't see ninetoez not climbing cos his toe isn't better, it takes more than a broken digit to stop some folk. A broken ankle would do it, mind, think yerself lucky. :roll:
Title: is cofe's finger better?
Post by: Jim on December 06, 2005, 06:13:56 pm
Quote from: "Johnny Brown"
word I've got a bad finger too

Yeah right, thats what you keep telling everyone
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Post by: Huffy on December 07, 2005, 11:37:17 pm
GEt the elastic band out of your trousers and onto that finger young man:

Light resistance work with the band, easy gentle stretches, b3's/hvs's in bulk, ice three times a day - pref after activites, ibuprofen, gallons of water, glucosamine (with Orange juice), sleep...

c'mon man, it's a simple tried and tested formula!
Title: is cofe's finger better?
Post by: dobbin on December 08, 2005, 09:31:34 am
The UK climbing community can no longer cope without its wild haired ambassador. Especially given the state of the field at the moment - we need you. Why not tape an ice axe onto your forearm, then you can join the party.
Title: is cofe's finger better?
Post by: cofe on December 08, 2005, 10:18:00 am
think the answer was 'no' after testing it the other night. i unfortuantly got kid-in-a-sweet-shop syndrome and tried something i shouldn';t have. although it only hurts a bit. to make matters worse i'm having a haircut tonight.

will keep on huffy - i just don't have your discipline miagi.
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Post by: dave on December 08, 2005, 10:21:35 am
Quote from: "cofe"
i unfortuantly got kid-in-a-sweet-shop syndrome and tried something i shouldn';t have.


let me guess, no-foot pressups?
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Post by: a dense loner on December 08, 2005, 10:36:31 am
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matters worse i'm having a haircut tonight


why god why?

samson springs to mind
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Post by: Bonjoy on December 08, 2005, 10:50:51 am
Don't do it man. Don't damage the aerials!
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Post by: Johnny Brown on December 08, 2005, 10:56:12 am
Word. I'm currently convinced you need to give fingers a reason to get better - ie show them they are weak and need to get stronger. Sitting at home watching the boosh dvds whilst waiting and hoping for an improvement ain't gonna do it.

Like Huffy says, go bouldering. I don't agree with the V3/HVS rule, just get on whatever you can without straining the injury. If it starts to hurt, let go and try something else. When craig david was in font he popped a tendon on monday, did a mauve circuit on tuesday, rested it with ice on wednesday, did a 7b on thursday and flashed a 7a+ on friday. be like craig.
Title: is cofe's finger better?
Post by: cofe on December 08, 2005, 11:01:09 am
Quote from: "Johnny Brown"
When craig david was in font he popped a tendon on monday, did a mauve circuit on tuesday, rested it with ice on wednesday, did a 7b on thursday and flashed a 7a+ on friday. be like craig.


was he on the nest saturday, and resting on sunday cos he was goosed?

will keep climbing and take care/supplements. i don't work all week to rest at the weekend. unless its pissing it down.

i'm probably going to have a 'Keith' at the barbers...
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Post by: dave on December 08, 2005, 11:07:26 am
get an american flat-top with Nike Air shaving into the back. You know it makes sense.
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Post by: Scouse D on December 08, 2005, 11:09:37 am
keep pulling down man- just don't bone anything. I ain't boned a hold for over a year and I'm still better than you. If you stop bonin you'll still be better than Dave, which is better than nothing.
I, like you, find it almost impossible to rest, so why fight it? Also, I think I'm addicted to Ibuprofen
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Post by: Ru on December 08, 2005, 11:09:58 am
Agree with JB. I think the trick with finger injuries is to climb through them, but just be careful. Try climb below the pain threshold. Use hand squashy things to keep the blood going. I don't avoid any grip type whilst doing this to try and strengthen accross the range of positions, but be sensible. If it hurts, don't do it.

Without knowing much about the SCIENCE, I get the feeling that stimulating the broken bit to repair its self works much better than ignoring it. That's what they advise for ruptured ankles these days - start walking on it asap or it won't get back to strength.
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Post by: Bonjoy on December 08, 2005, 11:13:25 am
Quote from: "Quiff"
i'm probably going to have a 'Keith' at the barbers...

(http://www.keithsharplesphotography.com/assets/bouldering/boulder03.jpg)
 Are you man enough for a beard like that?



 I've always been a beleiver in careful climbing through finger injuries. If it hurts, stop pulling. Just don't get carried away.
Title: is cofe's finger better?
Post by: a dense loner on December 08, 2005, 11:15:50 am
overheard at the crag the other day "i'm going to have to start campussing. i can't let all this talent go to waste only to fuck it up cos i've got weak tendons" :wink:
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Post by: Johnny Brown on December 08, 2005, 11:16:38 am
yeah they had 9toez on his feet the day after they put that frame on his ankle. he wasn't keen, nearly fainted just lowering the foot to the floor, took one step and said he could feel the bones moving, blood started pissing out of all the holes where the frame went in  :shock: The next day he ahd to do two steps, etc.

ps for those cocktalk types, we visited him 4 hours later and the blood was still all over the floor. Hospitals today :throw hands in air: :shake head:
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Post by: SA Chris on December 08, 2005, 11:20:41 am
Apparently massaging the paiful bit is good, helps break down the scar tissue that you wish you saw.
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Post by: dave on December 08, 2005, 11:21:26 am
Quote from: "Scouse D"
I ain't boned a hold for over a year and I'm still better than you. If you stop bonin you'll still be better than Dave, which is better than nothing.


thats a spirit boys, mind over matter.

I've also heard great things about placebos.
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Post by: dobbin on December 08, 2005, 11:21:42 am
how is 9toez these days? I really should text him again.
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Post by: Ru on December 08, 2005, 11:24:26 am
Quote from: "Scouse D"
If you stop bonin you'll still be better than Dave, which is better than nothing.


But only just better than nothing.


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yeah they had 9toez on his feet the day after they put that frame on his ankle. he wasn't keen, nearly fainted just lowering the foot to the floor, took one step and said he could feel the bones moving, blood started pissing out of all the holes where the frame went in


Despite what I said above, I can't imagine this being good. After all to get stronger the bits actually have to be attached to each other first...
Title: is cofe's finger better?
Post by: Bonjoy on December 08, 2005, 11:27:09 am
Have another Keith, it's got to be good for you!
(http://www.keithsharplesphotography.com/assets/bouldering/boulder06.jpg)
the Chuck Norris of climbing?
Title: is cofe's finger better?
Post by: Johnny Brown on December 08, 2005, 11:34:10 am
Wow - check out the landing! Much as sharples impresses me, I can't imagine him shooting down a plane by pointing his finger at it and yelling "BANG"
Title: is cofe's finger better?
Post by: cofe on December 08, 2005, 11:36:47 am
Quote from: "Scouse D"
keep pulling down man- just don't bone anything.


me julie will naturally be devastated.  :roll:

Bonjoy - i was referring to the other 'Keith' :lol:
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Post by: Fiend on December 08, 2005, 11:46:18 am
Quote from: "Ru"
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yeah they had 9toez on his feet the day after they put that frame on his ankle. he wasn't keen, nearly fainted just lowering the foot to the floor, took one step and said he could feel the bones moving, blood started pissing out of all the holes where the frame went in


Despite what I said above, I can't imagine this being good. After all to get stronger the bits actually have to be attached to each other first...


I'm presuming the mighty 9 has an Ilizarov (SP!) frame on?

Ms. Fiend had one on this summer after a bad lower leg break (whilst walking in to St Bees on the flat shore bit, doh).

They do want you walking on it as soon as possible. The idea being that the slight motion of the bone ends stimulates healing in the area, along with the general pressure of putting weight through it. Not a very nice procedure to start with, the Ms nearly fainted when she moved her leg off the bed, let alone put any weight on it. Took here 4/5 days before she could take a step I think.

If the 9 wants any advice and doesn't know any Ilizarov veterans already, tell him to PM me and I'll get the beta from the Ms. The one thing I do know is to KEEP THE FUCKING PIN SITES CLEAN. As in surgically clean. The Ms. tried her best but she still got a few infections which has ended up with a bone infection which is probably going to need a further operation, not good.
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Post by: Bonjoy on December 08, 2005, 11:47:22 am
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Bonjoy - i was referring to the other 'Keith'

(http://www.robertckelly.co.uk/productions/keithharris/images/keith_lg.jpg)
I see where you're coming from now.
Title: is cofe's finger better?
Post by: cofe on December 08, 2005, 11:58:15 am
close. but still not the right one... think closer to home.
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Post by: Johnny Brown on December 08, 2005, 12:01:28 pm
9toez's frame has come off now, though it'll be a while before he's climbing again. On the plus side his mixing skills have improved considerably
Title: is cofe's finger better?
Post by: cofe on December 08, 2005, 12:10:48 pm
Quote from: "Johnny Brown"
On the plus side his mixing skills have improved considerably


cement? icing? he was a bit touch and go the other night.
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Post by: Bonjoy on December 08, 2005, 12:17:59 pm
Turton?
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Post by: Johnny Brown on December 08, 2005, 04:42:34 pm
Richards obviously. Can't wait, definitely a move on from The 'Hoff

(http://www.irocknroll.com/images/Rolling_Stones_Keith_Richards_Signed_Photo_b.jpg)
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Post by: dave on December 08, 2005, 06:25:44 pm
(http://www.origo.hu/i/0507/20050706prodigy.jpg)

(http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1145000/images/_1145897_lard_laird300.jpg)
Title: is cofe's finger better?
Post by: dobbin on December 08, 2005, 08:30:44 pm
I think he means Bradbury. I dont have a picture though, sorry. Think like Pat king only longer at the sides  :lol:
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Post by: Johnny Brown on December 09, 2005, 09:59:36 am
Well having seen it last night (quite a disappointment I can tell you) it looks nothing like unclenobody's fashion mullet.
With reference to the pics above, think a mix between Harris and Lard and you won't be far wrong.

(that's a hint bonjoy. and its friday...)
Title: is cofe's finger better?
Post by: cofe on December 09, 2005, 12:04:33 pm
as usual folllowing a haircut i'm looking a bit abramovich.
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Post by: Bonjoy on December 09, 2005, 02:58:01 pm
Quote from: "Johnny Brown"
Well having seen it last night (quite a disappointment I can tell you) it looks nothing like unclenobody's fashion mullet.
With reference to the pics above, think a mix between Harris and Lard and you won't be far wrong.

(that's a hint bonjoy. and its friday...)

 I'd ask for your money back John! (It all went a bit pear shaped, but i'm reet busy(accidentally won a big contract, damn!))
(http://ukbouldering.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10110/johnb7.jpg)
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Post by: Johnny Brown on December 09, 2005, 03:11:05 pm
Yes, officer, that's the man I saw!
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Post by: andy_e on December 10, 2005, 10:23:22 am
don't forget to post a pcture when the hoff boff's off
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Post by: Jim on December 11, 2005, 09:50:30 pm
Quote from: "Scouse D"
Also, I think I'm addicted to Ibuprofen

Word D, I'm with you there. whats your favorite variety. I'm hooked on cuprofen 400's.
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