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the shizzle => shootin' the shit => Topic started by: tomtom on December 23, 2018, 11:11:21 am

Title: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tomtom on December 23, 2018, 11:11:21 am

Me, Nai and 3T have been occasionally working on this over the last few weeks. It may well take some of you only 5 min - I'm not sure!

Guidelines are:
1. Please don't spray the answers on here until Boxing day.
2. Message me the right answers (next to the clues) and first might win a prize if (a) Shark reads this and (b) wants to dontate one :) (that means I've not asked him yet... UKB T shirt perhaps?? hint hint?)
3. Some clues are cryptic, some are anagrams, some are neither. Some may be moderately offensive/satirical - but hey! Its UKB :)

Enjoy - and happy Christmas all!!

(https://i.imgur.com/znqdjMi.png)
https://imgur.com/gallery/YYEjtbS

Across
1. tiresome criss cross (7,5)
4. Squeal piggy squeal! (11)
7. is band of reservists helpful information (4)
10. Lethargic lifter (7,2,3,4)
13. Functioning? (5)
15. This arete is a real Beech! (5,9)
16. Shark Climbs the Oak!
19. curtailed house warming gives result of stacked pads (8)
20. Uneatable info about everyone's favourite destination. (13)
21. singular velcro temps(5,6)
24. Mighty tome from lithogenous beadwork (5,5,9)
25. not a sheep! (6)

Down
2. F**cking porcelain (7,5)
3. A mad radon! (4,5)
5. rear circumnavigation after digital broadcast (4,6)
6. Baslow grimpeur assumes extreme position on geography
7. A grand monster artisans market (10, 3, 8)
8. Clean up after yourself, or you’ll get a bullseye rash (8)
9. not a cow! (5)
11. the escalating nature of beta (6)
12. Pete Close paces backwards (6)
14. Holding up well against the dollar
17. Evading 5-0 without 5-10 (6)
18. friend before cat without feet (6)
22. It’s not easy at the Gop shorty! (5,4)
23. excuse me, where do I find the path to the oldest city in the world? (7,4)

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 23, 2018, 11:50:33 am

8) is meant to be 8 )

(for those who have smilies switched on)

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: 36chambers on December 23, 2018, 12:06:47 pm

I got one! :smartass:

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tomtom on December 23, 2018, 12:22:30 pm

Quote from: 36chambers on December 23, 2018, 12:06:47 pm

I got one! :smartass:

👍👍

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: shark on December 23, 2018, 12:34:23 pm

Quote from: tomtom on December 23, 2018, 11:11:21 am

2. Message me the right answers (next to the clues) and first might win a prize if (a) Shark reads this and (b) wants to dontate one :) (that means I've not asked him yet... UKB T shirt perhaps?? hint hint?)

:thumbsup:

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: 36chambers on December 23, 2018, 12:53:39 pm

Quote from: 36chambers on December 23, 2018, 12:06:47 pm

I got one! :smartass:

still on one and I think I've just realised that I don't like crosswords. Allez.

edit: but good work regardless :)

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tomtom on December 23, 2018, 01:00:41 pm

In case you hadn’t guessed, all the answers are related to climbing and the odd one to UKB

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: shark on December 23, 2018, 01:06:02 pm

I’ve got 3 but obviously not 16 across (despite a lot of advice)

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: Duma on December 23, 2018, 01:18:20 pm

Is 16A all one word? Similarly for 6D and14D?

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tomtom on December 23, 2018, 01:27:35 pm

Quote from: Duma on December 23, 2018, 01:18:20 pm

Is 16A all one word? Similarly for 6D and14D?

Damn - crossword maker has trimmed off some of the formatting at the end of lines.

16 A is (9,7)
6D is one word.
14 D is debatable but I’d say one.

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: Duma on December 23, 2018, 01:47:26 pm

Ta. Is 8D debatable too?

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: Will Hunt on December 23, 2018, 01:54:01 pm

If you're wondering whether you've got 8D right you probably haven't got it right.

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: Duma on December 23, 2018, 01:57:45 pm

I'm not wondering, I just think it could be 2 words.

2D - either typo in word lengths or grid is wrong??

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tomtom on December 23, 2018, 02:18:30 pm

Quote from: Duma on December 23, 2018, 01:57:45 pm

I'm not wondering, I just think it could be 2 words.

2D - either typo in word lengths or grid is wrong??

Yup. 7,6 not 7,5. Apols. I’d Better not give up the day job eh!

I should have put in Festering Spunkpit as one of the clues... hit enter too soon :)

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: GraemeA on December 23, 2018, 05:29:05 pm

Quote from: Duma on December 23, 2018, 01:18:20 pm

Is 16A all one word? Similarly for 6D and14D?

Surely 16 across is a song by EMF

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tomtom on December 23, 2018, 05:35:27 pm

Quote from: GraemeA on December 23, 2018, 05:29:05 pm

Quote from: Duma on December 23, 2018, 01:18:20 pm
Is 16A all one word? Similarly for 6D and14D?

Surely 16 across is a song by EMF

Right here right now? 😂 or the other one...

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tlr on December 23, 2018, 05:45:53 pm

Blimey, that's a lot of unches!

Done a dozen, but not sure I'll get many more.

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tomtom on December 23, 2018, 05:50:17 pm

Quote from: tlr on December 23, 2018, 05:45:53 pm

Blimey, that's a lot of unches!

Done a dozen, but not sure I'll get many more.

Effort. There’s a few anagrams in there...

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: highrepute on December 23, 2018, 11:03:16 pm

Quote from: tomtom on December 23, 2018, 05:50:17 pm

Quote from: tlr on December 23, 2018, 05:45:53 pm
Blimey, that's a lot of unches!

Done a dozen, but not sure I'll get many more.

Effort. There’s a few anagrams in there...

That helped

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 23, 2018, 11:49:09 pm

Quote from: Duma on December 23, 2018, 01:47:26 pm

Ta. Is 8D debatable too?

yes, could be thought of as two words

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: fatneck on December 24, 2018, 08:42:07 am

Great idea!!! Nice one lids :2thumbsup:

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tomtom on December 24, 2018, 09:05:26 am

I’ve not had any mail yet.. so no one has managed it yet...

Or PM’s are ferked :D

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: Steve R on December 24, 2018, 10:30:23 am

Still miles off, it's desperate. Fun trying though, thanks.

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: highrepute on December 24, 2018, 11:16:54 am

Yeah it's hard. Got about dozen after quite a lot of thinking and help from my more intelligent partner

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: 36chambers on December 24, 2018, 11:40:16 am

With the help of the GF and my dad I'm finally on 4. Got the Shark one though so I'm happy about that ;D

I've finally googled how to solve cryptic crosswords so hoping to be on 5 by the end of the day.

update: just got the 5th. The floodgates are open.

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tomtom on December 24, 2018, 01:47:46 pm

I forgot to add - Plattsy added some of the clues too (some great ones) - thanks Andy and sorry for not acknowledging you at the top.

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: nai on December 24, 2018, 02:16:26 pm

I should point out that while you asked for input I didn't give any, despite intending to, so shouldn't be credited with helping

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tomtom on December 24, 2018, 03:17:41 pm

Quote from: nai on December 24, 2018, 02:16:26 pm

I should point out that while you asked for input I didn't give any, despite intending to, so shouldn't be credited with helping

Oops... Just as well for the brexit fiasco - it makes my crossword handling look exemplary :D #omnishambles

This is why I should never be in charge of anything important like grit calling...

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tommytwotone on December 24, 2018, 11:49:46 pm

Quote from: nai on December 24, 2018, 02:16:26 pm

I should point out that while you asked for input I didn't give any, despite intending to, so shouldn't be credited with helping

Fake clues.

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: Duma on December 25, 2018, 12:03:47 am

Sorry, another question - 21A, should the second word arguably be spelt with 7 letters? Pretty sure I've got it but spelling it with only 6 looks wrong to me.

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tomtom on December 25, 2018, 10:18:34 am

Merry Christmas y’all.

I’ve had a couple of messages asking for help - so seems it’s proving tricky.

I’ll post up some general clues later on today in the gap while the turkey is cooking and the veggies need doing :)

Duma the letter numbers are correct for that one.

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: Steve R on December 25, 2018, 03:51:14 pm

Merry Christmas :alky:. 4 left but sure I've got some wrong. eagerly awaiting these clues - at current rate, I don't think I'd be finished by boxing day 2019

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tomtom on December 25, 2018, 04:11:25 pm

Ok.
4, 15, 20, 21, 25
2, 6, 9, 12, 22, 23

These are all either problem, route or destination names.

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: Duma on December 25, 2018, 08:08:30 pm

Merry Christmas UKB! Just finished work, now to get stuck in. 6 left pre clues.

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: 36chambers on December 25, 2018, 08:59:11 pm

Right so after the longest two days of my life, I think I have everything but 21.

Is that definitely a problem, route or destination? Because I'm pretty sure I was originally thinking the same thing as Duma

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: 36chambers on December 25, 2018, 09:08:05 pm

Quote from: 36chambers on December 25, 2018, 08:59:11 pm

Right so after the longest two days of my life, I think I have everything but 21.

Is that definitely a problem, route or destination? Because I'm pretty sure I was originally thinking the same thing as Duma

Scratch that, I have 21 and it is definitely a problem, route or destination. Turns out my answer for 4 isn't though :/

EDIT: scratch that, I have 4 now and it is definitely a problem, route or destination.

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tomtom on December 27, 2018, 07:47:20 am

Congratulations!!
36Chambers is the winner. But second and third ascents are still up for grabs.

In the meantime,
1
13
24
7
14
17

All have to be paid for...

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: Will Hunt on December 27, 2018, 08:21:12 am

Quote from: tomtom on December 27, 2018, 07:47:20 am

Congratulations!!
36Chambers is the winner. But second and third ascents are still up for grabs.

In the meantime,
1
13
24
7
14
17

All have to be paid for...

I guess if it's past boxing day then we can go public with answers? The only one of those I was sure about was:

NSFW spoilers:

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tomtom on December 27, 2018, 08:49:27 am

dab. Back around.

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: Will Hunt on December 27, 2018, 09:02:34 am

But 24 is right, right?

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: Steve R on December 27, 2018, 09:28:23 am

Quote from: Will Hunt on December 27, 2018, 09:02:34 am

But 24 is right, right?

has to be!
efforts at the other ones mentioned:

NSFW :

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tomtom on December 27, 2018, 09:35:39 am

I can post up the answers with a nsfw button if people want? Any objections?

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: 36chambers on December 27, 2018, 10:51:43 am

Quote from: tomtom on December 27, 2018, 07:47:20 am

Congratulations!!
36Chambers is the winner. But second and third ascents are still up for grabs.

I would like to thank my sponsors, my GF, my dad, and my GF's brother.

And more importantly I would like to thank the people who made the crossword, which gave me a good excuse for downtime over Christmas :strongbench:

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: highrepute on December 27, 2018, 11:23:53 am

Of the ones you listed as still to guess.

I'd be up for setting the answers to end my misery!

NSFW :

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tomtom on December 27, 2018, 11:30:26 am

Answers below :) glad it gave you something to do over the break

NSFW :

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: highrepute on December 27, 2018, 11:49:32 am

Quote from: tomtom on December 27, 2018, 11:30:26 am

Answers below :) glad it gave you something to do over the break

NSFW :
1. latticeboard
4. deliverance
7. beta
10. calling of the grit
13. works
15. fagus sylvatica
16. Christmas miracle
19. cheating
20. fontainebleau
21. brass monkey (I was sure it was singular not monkeys - but I was wrong! Sorry!)
24. north wales guidebook
25. bovine

2. obscene toiley
3. adam ondra
5. back around
6. flatworld
7. beastmaker one thousand
8. tickmark
9. ovine
11. ladder
12. hubble
14. fuckall
17. scarpa
18. campus
22. porth ysgo
23. jericho road

Great! We got 13 of them correct. And were generally quite close on a lot of the others. Some that we got wrong but I like our answers.

19 padparty
21 prime conies
23 stanage edge (Damascus, silk road, causeway called the salt track ... Tenuous!)

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tomtom on December 27, 2018, 12:40:37 pm

Excellent answers!

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 27, 2018, 07:16:47 pm

what were people's favourite clues?

just asking for next time

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tomtom on December 27, 2018, 07:22:54 pm

From a setting POV I enjoyed the anagrams. Gop shorty was good - and i especially enjoyed lithogenous beadwork :D

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 27, 2018, 07:25:24 pm

any that were too basic or too contrived?

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: 36chambers on December 27, 2018, 10:52:42 pm

Quote from: lagerstarfish on December 27, 2018, 07:25:24 pm

any that were too basic or too contrived?

my favourites were
5. rear circumnavigation after digital broadcast (4,6)
18. friend before cat without feet (6)
19. curtailed house warming gives result of stacked pads (8) (this one took ages, but was satisfying to get)

I still don't get why 10. Lethargic lifter (7,2,3,4) = calling of the grit, despite it being obvious from the linking words.

4. Squeal piggy squeal! (11). Never would have got it without a lot of googling. Haven't seen the film. Originally thought it was "fingercrack".

15. This arete is a real Beech! (5,9). Never heard of the climb fagus sylvatica, so this one took me a long time to get.

Definitely wouldn't have got 21. singular velcro temps (5,6) if I didn't know it was climb.

Overall it was good, but pretty hard. My only criticism would be to only use well known climbs rather than something like fagus sylvatica or obscene toilet (unless the whole point was to use niche ones).

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tlr on December 27, 2018, 11:44:24 pm

“I still don't get why 10. Lethargic lifter (7,2,3,4) = calling of the grit, despite it being obvious from the linking words.”

Anagram innit. (Although I didn’t realise that until I read the answer).

Too hard for me after my initial flurry of answers. Some answers I hadn’t heard of, and pretty tough not knowing if it was as anagram, cryptic or more straightforward. Difficult with so few confirming letters too.

Good effort getting them all 36, and thanks for setting it TTT.

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: teestub on December 28, 2018, 09:34:48 am

Anagram missing the ‘n’!

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tomtom on December 28, 2018, 09:50:53 am

We tried to have a range of clues - but I know there are some crossword experts on UKB so wanted to make this accessible but still an challenge to all. Maybe some of the answers were a bit too UKB ‘in joke’ (eg fuckall) which can be tweaked.

Also when making the crossword you get lots of choices of layout - and I deliberately avoided Those that intersected the two longest answers (north wales guidebook / beastmaker...) too many times as this would have made getting those two a quick step to doing the whole thing.

Maybe another 10-15 clues of easier answers on top of the 25 already there would have helped. One for next year :)

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: nik at work on December 28, 2018, 12:10:03 pm

Quote from: teestub on December 28, 2018, 09:34:48 am

Anagram missing the ‘n’!

And a g and too many t's...

But anyway, nice one. Didn't really try and do the whole thing but gave me a pleasant 5 minutes of idle contemplation amongst the endless chaos that is Christmas chez moi. Thanks to all involved.

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 28, 2018, 06:13:30 pm

Quote from: 36chambers on December 27, 2018, 10:52:42 pm

Quote from: lagerstarfish on December 27, 2018, 07:25:24 pm
any that were too basic or too contrived?

my favourites were
5. rear circumnavigation after digital broadcast (4,6)
18. friend before cat without feet (6)
19. curtailed house warming gives result of stacked pads (8) (this one took ages, but was satisfying to get)

all mine

get in!

I worried about the single "s" instead of "puss" for 18

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tomtom on December 28, 2018, 06:48:43 pm

I thought they were 3T’s :D

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: Duma on December 29, 2018, 04:34:36 pm

First, great work to all the setters, enjoyed the diversion.

I think more crossings would have been better, esp when many clues could have several valid answers.
Don't really get 11D (I had louder for this).
12D was harsh I think, backwards is misleading as an anagram indicator, and you had to solve the anagram to get the clue, so had no idea of length.
10A was OK as it had a few crossings, but missing letters from an anagram is a bit harsh!
14D was a pretty vague clue for an obscure answer, and with only one letter to confirm (I had buckled for this).
I didn't get 21A but reckon it was fair.

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 29, 2018, 05:10:15 pm

I think that next time we should check each other's clues for faults/quality - add our initials after we have checked somebody else's clue

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: Will Hunt on December 29, 2018, 08:24:50 pm

I enjoyed my poor attempt at it - thanks to everyone who contributed. That's not to say I didn't grouse about a number of the clues. If you're used to cryptic crosswords I think it was quite hard because the clues didn't follow the same sort of format, where the clue will lead you to the answer in two different ways. I was struggling to tell which were the genuinely cryptic clues and which were the obscure hints at some climbing related term. The advantage of having cryptic clues is that there can normally only be one acceptable answer to each question (e.g. I had put "Leader" for Not a sheep!; I had "Elder Statesman" at first for the Beech of an arete; Louder for escalating beta).

Best clue, even though I didn't get it was curtailed house warming gives result of stacked pads.

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tomtom on December 29, 2018, 09:27:08 pm

Ukb crossword. Beta testing complete :)

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: 36chambers on December 30, 2018, 11:06:49 am

Quote from: Will Hunt on December 29, 2018, 08:24:50 pm

If you're used to cryptic crosswords I think it was quite hard...

easier for the short right?

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tomtom on December 30, 2018, 03:42:03 pm

Quote from: 36chambers on December 30, 2018, 11:06:49 am

Quote from: Will Hunt on December 29, 2018, 08:24:50 pm
If you're used to cryptic crosswords I think it was quite hard...

easier for the short right?

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tlr on December 30, 2018, 08:39:43 pm

Quote from: tomtom on December 30, 2018, 03:42:03 pm

Quote from: 36chambers on December 30, 2018, 11:06:49 am
Quote from: Will Hunt on December 29, 2018, 08:24:50 pm
If you're used to cryptic crosswords I think it was quite hard...

easier for the short right?

:D

Agreed! Just done the Telegraph cryptic in a couple of hours - I could only do 12 of the UKB crossword in total!

And I’m not short.

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: Will Hunt on December 31, 2018, 12:19:22 am

Quote from: 36chambers on December 30, 2018, 11:06:49 am

Quote from: Will Hunt on December 29, 2018, 08:24:50 pm
If you're used to cryptic crosswords I think it was quite hard...

easier for the short right?

Isn't everything?!

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: spidermonkey09 on January 02, 2019, 10:49:45 am

Quote from: 36chambers on December 27, 2018, 10:52:42 pm

4. Squeal piggy squeal! (11). Never would have got it without a lot of googling. Haven't seen the film. Originally thought it was "fingercrack".

Absolutely quality film, cult classic!

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: Steve R on January 02, 2019, 11:03:54 am

As a crossworder of average height, I found it tough but enjoyed some satisfying moments. Got a few wrong and gave up on a couple. Many thanks again to the setters. I liked the problem/route name clues and 'ukb speak' clues - without these, anyone could do it? My 'best fails' were:
14D Waddage
22D Power Club
12D Helsby

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: Duma on January 02, 2019, 11:09:57 am

Quote from: Steve R on January 02, 2019, 11:03:54 am

14D Waddage

Nice! my original answer for this was Eurowad, which delayed me getting 16A for a while

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tommytwotone on October 08, 2019, 10:23:25 am

All, just a heads-up / marketing message on behalf of twotone industries inc.

So I've started work on the UKB Christmas Crossword, building on the excellent start from tomtom last year.

I've got as far as a "proper" grid (I just ripped off a recent Guardian cryptic that had roughly the right word lengths in it) and have finally, after a lot of faffing completed it. Turns out making a cryptic is a lot harder than solving one, especially if you're attempting some vague form of theme / link in the answers!

I now need to start the process of clueing, but hopefully I've given myself plenty of time. To be released at some point in mid-December.

Think I may also do a themed quick crossword as well, for those who don't do cryptics!

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: Duma on October 08, 2019, 11:48:06 am

psyched for this!

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: Will Hunt on October 08, 2019, 12:51:28 pm

I'm psyched.

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: dunnyg on October 08, 2019, 02:40:01 pm

I'd appreciate the quick crossword, i'm too thick for cryptics

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: SA Chris on October 08, 2019, 02:42:22 pm

Quote from: dunnyg on October 08, 2019, 02:40:01 pm

I'd appreciate the quick crossword, i'm too thick for cryptics

Me two.

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: tommytwotone on October 09, 2019, 11:10:56 am

Edit: progress is good, I'm also getting a bit addicted to coming up with clues.

Thinking that as it's a more appropriate UKB event / festival, I may make it a Calling Of The Grit celebration crossword!

Title: Re: UKB Christmas Crossword 2018
Post by: dunnyg on October 09, 2019, 12:02:27 pm

That isn't very inclusive for those (monsters) who boulder year round on the lime... :jab:

UKBouldering.com

the shizzle => shootin' the shit => Topic started by: tomtom on December 23, 2018, 11:11:21 am