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Title: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: haydn jones on June 19, 2015, 12:36:07 pm
Piggy Black not sure on grade harder than Black, Sack & Crack (AKA BSC) so added a grade which makes it 7C
starting from the right hand end jugs. Tricky moves using undercuts and heel hooking on the jugs bring you left into BSC, finish up this.

Blackout again grade who knows, if you can reach the crimp from the foot ledge (you'd need to be more than 6 foot!) it would probably be as low as 7A+. I had to jump. felt hard so giving it 7C.
Start on the large jugs on the right. moving past a lovely pinch and a slot you arrive at a slopey edge for your left hand, from this jump to the sticking out crimp and hold the swing! Finish promptly on the large jugs immediately above.
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: Three Nine on June 19, 2015, 01:06:37 pm
topo pic/vid please!
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: haydn jones on June 19, 2015, 01:48:21 pm
Ok. Will go back probably satarday if i can find anyone to climb with and document it all on camera. If not maybe mon/tue. Reallly want people to get on blackout. Blowing my own trumpet but i genuinely  think its one of the best problems in the peak
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: Three Nine on June 19, 2015, 02:01:34 pm
i look forward to it  :popcorn:
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: abarro81 on June 19, 2015, 02:55:20 pm
Are these things further down the valley from ovine and that next buttress down from it?
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: Three Nine on June 19, 2015, 03:32:24 pm
Apparently so (past black and deckout buttress). But i walked past that and all the way to where the crag meets the stream and didnt see anything that looked worth climbing (and im not fussy)? Perhaps its further?
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: haydn jones on June 24, 2015, 01:12:21 am
(http://i.imgur.com/AEQxtNe.jpg)
ned showing his gurn face on an excellent 6C+ Jon will hopefully remind me of the name as i've forgotten
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: haydn jones on June 24, 2015, 01:16:38 am
(http://i.imgur.com/4VgBsbe.jpg)
1.Black Magic 7B
2.Black, Sack & Crack 7B+
3. Piggy Black 7C
4. Blackout 7A+

did black magic today is really good, dom bridgewood found new beta on blackout with a high right heel hook so you no longer have to dyno hence now 7A+ instead of 7C

would highly recommend the jump way for anyone interested though is good move
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: joble on June 24, 2015, 06:35:17 am
I hope the problems are better than the topo!
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: ferret on June 24, 2015, 07:33:09 am
i genuinely  think its one of the best problems in the peak

Looking at that topo photo from the safety of my arm chair I can only conclude that you haven't climbed many/any problems in the peak or you were completely out of your mind when writing that.
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: Three Nine on June 24, 2015, 08:36:42 am
Thanks for the topo Haydn, much appreciated
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: Bonjoy on June 24, 2015, 09:10:08 am
The 6C+ that Ned is on in the pic is called Bog Standard, the quality is anything but.

Worth a mention that Dave's Black & Deckout 7a+ got a clean and four repeats yesterday. Really excellent highballing. The debris around the base of the tree at the top could do with a bit of a clear out though. It's not a big job but a short bit of rope would be useful.
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: tomtom on June 24, 2015, 09:11:09 am
Thanks for the topo Haydn, much appreciated

+1. Effort.
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: cofe on June 24, 2015, 09:20:14 am
Blackout is a really good problem. Me and Scouse tried it last night (didn't do it); 7a+ seems harsh. Maybe 7b? No easier than say Sheep Shifter.
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: dave on June 24, 2015, 09:23:00 am
Worth a mention that Dave's Black & Deckout 7a+ got a clean and four repeats yesterday. Really excellent highballing. The debris around the base of the tree at the top could do with a bit of a clear out though. It's not a big job but a short bit of rope would be useful.

Glad its getting some traffic. As the saying goes; I genuinely think its one of the best problems in the peak.
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: haydn jones on June 24, 2015, 01:09:39 pm
Limestone is never much to look at. But the holds feel perfectly sculpted
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: Three Nine on June 24, 2015, 01:25:27 pm
I look forward to the beta vid  ;)
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: haydn jones on June 24, 2015, 02:45:14 pm
damn just noticed the name black magic is taken by another problem.... hmmm anyone got any suggestions?
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: Wood FT on June 24, 2015, 02:51:21 pm
Black Flag
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Post by: cheque on June 24, 2015, 02:56:20 pm
Black Planet
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Post by: dave on June 24, 2015, 02:59:40 pm
Blackula
Black Eye
Fear Of A Black Planet
Black Market
Black & Blue
Black Friday
Black Sheep
Pitch Black
Once You've Had Black There's No Going Back
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: haydn jones on June 24, 2015, 03:01:56 pm
Black Power i went with! nice list of names though!
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: haydn jones on June 25, 2015, 02:49:52 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1wVgvav4eA
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: highrepute on June 25, 2015, 07:30:51 am
Black by popular demand
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: dave on June 25, 2015, 07:40:39 am

Black by popular demand

Already in use I'm afraid.
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: highrepute on June 25, 2015, 09:01:38 am
Damn showing my lack of guidebook knowledge there.

Black to the future?
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: tomtom on June 25, 2015, 09:02:59 am
Always bet on black...
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: tomtom on June 25, 2015, 09:04:26 am
Black celebration
Black to the future
Black around
Black Sack and Crack?
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: Bonjoy on June 25, 2015, 09:56:02 am
Black celebration
Black to the future
Black around
Black Sack and Crack?
The last is already in use on the same buttress!
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: dave on June 25, 2015, 10:18:26 am
Back Slack and Crack
Brack Sack and Clack
Bach Slachan Craic
Blackjack and Cracksack
Back Crack and Slackjack
Flapjack and Slack Black Rackclack
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: cofe on June 25, 2015, 10:25:41 am
Black and deck out

Blackout

Black and Decker

Young gifted and black

Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: duncan on June 25, 2015, 10:26:50 am
Darkinbad the Brightdayler (though strictly speaking it should be to the left of Black Magic).
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: tomtom on June 25, 2015, 11:20:14 am

Black celebration
Black to the future
Black around
Black Sack and Crack?
The last is already in use on the same buttress!

Oops! RTFM TomTom
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: Falling Down on June 27, 2015, 07:16:14 pm
Black by Dope Demand
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: tomtom on June 29, 2015, 07:12:36 pm
Went and checked these out today. Good job Haydn - they felt like ace probs (despite no success from me!)

quote author=cofe link=topic=25966.msg491513#msg491513 date=1435134014]
Blackout is a really good problem. Me and Scouse tried it last night (didn't do it); 7a+ seems harsh. Maybe 7b? No easier than say Sheep Shifter.
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Fun problem - I get tantilisingly close but no where near at the same time. High heel method felt desperate for me..

Worth a mention that Dave's Black & Deckout 7a+ got a clean and four repeats yesterday. Really excellent highballing. The debris around the base of the tree at the top could do with a bit of a clear out though. It's not a big job but a short bit of rope would be useful.

I got well stuck into this problem - class line - great bit of rock and too hard for me today!
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: cofe on June 29, 2015, 07:21:28 pm
Cool beans Tom. Was stuff dry then? Was a bit spoogy yesterday so went to Tor instead.
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: tomtom on June 29, 2015, 07:37:14 pm
Cool beans Tom. Was stuff dry then? Was a bit spoogy yesterday so went to Tor instead.

Mint. All dry. Damp underfoot (and nettles - be careful in shorts and flip flops..) but all gravy.
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: mark20 on July 03, 2015, 05:32:26 pm
Found Dom's sequence on Black Power desperate... I got the good hold with my right, then up to the crimp with my left, heel on and flick for the 'moon' with my right. There's a good hold in the break for the left to then span out right to the finishing jugs
Good finds Haydn
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: tomtom on July 03, 2015, 06:06:25 pm

Found Dom's sequence on Black Power desperate... I got the good hold with my right, then up to the crimp with my left, heel on and flick for the 'moon' with my right. There's a good hold in the break for the left to then span out right to the finishing jugs
Good finds Haydn

So you get the moon with your right and then cross over with the left to the break? (Or is my memory of the problem wack?) I couldn't quite figure out which hand to go for what etc.. On this..
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: mark20 on July 03, 2015, 06:09:55 pm
There's a good bit in the break directly up from the crimp (Dom doesn't use it in that vid)
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: haydn jones on July 03, 2015, 10:12:14 pm
Yea i cleaned that pocket in the break out above the moon. Should have thought to use that sequence. It sounds better
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: Bonjoy on July 03, 2015, 11:07:24 pm
Good finds Haydn Bonjoy
Seeing as Haydn's seems to have forgotten to mention
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: haydn jones on July 04, 2015, 12:51:11 am
Haha! Sorry! Yes. Rather rude of me not to say.  :oops:
did you get a chance to try blackout mark?
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: mark20 on July 04, 2015, 10:49:49 am
Yeh feels OK with that heel out right. Nice holds
Title: Re: [peak][blackwell dale]
Post by: andy_e on October 05, 2015, 05:23:10 pm
Did blackout yesterday, thought it was fantastic. Big moves off friendly grips. Can't comment on the grade really, no idea! Great moves.
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