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Title: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Durbs on April 23, 2014, 01:56:48 pm
Sooo, this weekend the drama kicks off again :D

(Rather selfishly of them, the first round clashes with my wedding. Humph)

Anyone care to place their early bets for Men's and Women's top 3?
Will Anna (  :wub: ) dominate?
Think I read somewhere Ondra's competing this year....

My predictions (if anyone cares):
Men
1: Adam Ondra (If he's competing)
2: Jan Hojer
3: Kilian - I think his motivation will have peaked and lost interest slightly.

Women:
1: Anna Stohr
2: Shauna
3: Akiyo Noguchi / Pooch
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: r-man on April 23, 2014, 02:31:11 pm
Hojer is great when the poblems suit his style, but seems to struggle on techy stuff.

1) Anna - brilliant last year, though as well as great performances I think she also had some good luck. She was definitely the best, but I think it might be a bit closer this year.
2) Shauna / Akiyo - come on Shauna!
4) Pooch / Jule - Pooch is a beast, but inconsistent. Jule could scrape in if she gets a good run.

These four seem quite far ahead of the pack - I'd be surprised if there was anyone new in the top four, but who knows...

Harder to call in the men. Ondra isn't competing in China - http://www.ifsc-climbing.org/index.php/world-competition/calendar# (http://www.ifsc-climbing.org/index.php/world-competition/calendar#)!type=starters&comp=1518

1) Dmitrii - Hard to beat!
2) Rustam / Killian - Both capable of winning, but haven't been as good as Dmitrii recently
4) Sean / Jakob
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Ti_pin_man on April 23, 2014, 02:51:26 pm
I think you've got the women pretty much spot on, I think and hope Shauna will get consistently closer to Anna's results.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: jwi on April 24, 2014, 01:17:01 pm
I think this year can be Akiyo Noguchi's year, she was the only one to consistently threaten Anna Stöhr. Juliane Wurm's form seems to be on the rise.

1. Akiyo Noguchi
2. Anna Stöhr.
3. Shauna Coxsey
Outsider: Juliane Wurm


For the men, I don't know exactly how Jakob Schubert's injury is panning out. To me he was the best climber in the world cup circuit  last year and I hope he has able to train hard, but he is not on the startlist for Chongqing...

1. Rustam Gelmanov. This will be his year
2. Jan Hojer
3. Guillaume Glairon-Mondet
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: fatneck on April 24, 2014, 01:31:26 pm
Slightly  :offtopic:  but am I right in thinking Chongqing is 7 hours ahead of us and therefore Finals will be 10am ish?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: r-man on April 24, 2014, 01:42:09 pm
Slightly  :offtopic:  but am I right in thinking Chongqing is 7 hours ahead of us and therefore Finals will be 10am ish?

Think so. This is handy for the world cups...
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Nibile on April 24, 2014, 03:47:52 pm
(Rather selfishly of them, the first round clashes with my wedding. Humph)

Will Anna (  :wub: ) dominate?
This post has the potential to get you in so much trouble, should your girlfriend read it.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Durbs on April 24, 2014, 03:52:43 pm
Not really, she agrees...

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Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Sasquatch on April 24, 2014, 04:03:50 pm
Not really, she agrees...
:lol:
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: r-man on April 26, 2014, 12:03:47 pm
Semis here tomorrow...

LIVE IFSC Climbing World Cup Chongqing 2014 - Boulder - Semi-Finals - Male/Female (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9X4WM6htcs#ws)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: a dense loner on April 26, 2014, 05:19:11 pm
it says this vid is private. will try ifsc site
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: stvey1987 on April 26, 2014, 08:32:22 pm
looks like techinical dificulties have been encountered and it's only going to be streamed from IFSC homepage. I also saw this in a report from onbouldering.com :

"Note: The organization in Chongqing is chaotic to say the least." from their report @ http://onbouldering.com/2014-chongqing-bouldering-world-cup-qualifiers/ (http://onbouldering.com/2014-chongqing-bouldering-world-cup-qualifiers/)

Nice couple of vids showing Shauna and Kilian climbing in the quali's too.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: a dense loner on April 26, 2014, 10:55:45 pm
To be fair to chongqing I've not actually seen any decent footage streamed of a climbing comp ever, yet still I watch them
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: JackAus on April 27, 2014, 05:38:49 am
James Kassay is through to the finals. Qualified in 3rd...

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/q82/s720x720/10253876_10154073763670621_4992444068799026730_n.jpg)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on April 27, 2014, 11:18:31 am
is everyones feed about 20x30 dpi??
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: dontfollowme on April 27, 2014, 11:38:46 am
Yes. Also seems almost full screen.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on April 27, 2014, 11:42:22 am
so long as its not just me. 1 attempt btwn jule and shauna... and anna looks like she might miss the podium
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on April 27, 2014, 12:12:37 pm
Silver again for shauna, more bonuses I think, but one more attempt for her tops than jule.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on April 27, 2014, 07:57:23 pm
No interest? Thought maybe with the crowdfunding stuff more folk might have been following. No one I spoke to at the wall this afternoon even knew it was on either.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Stubbs on April 27, 2014, 08:00:10 pm
I think there will be more interest in the ones that are on in the evening. I was out climbing rather than watching people climb on my computer!
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: fried on April 27, 2014, 08:04:58 pm
I was really interested but I completely miscalculated the start time. It'd be nice if the IFSC could give a 'euro' start time. maybe update some of the pages. Couldn't find the qualifiying results or semi-results.

Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: erm, sam on April 27, 2014, 08:50:49 pm
I am interested but rather busy this morning. Hoping it gets uploaded for non live viewing sometime soon....
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on April 27, 2014, 09:37:03 pm
I think there will be more interest in the ones that are on in the evening. I was out climbing rather than watching people climb on my computer!
fair enough - the weather in Bristol was not conducive to getting out!
I was really interested but I completely miscalculated the start time. It'd be nice if the IFSC could give a 'euro' start time. maybe update some of the pages. Couldn't find the qualifiying results or semi-results.
tbh I was only alerted by the BMC on FB
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Richie Crouch on April 27, 2014, 10:29:03 pm
Tried to watch a bit in work but the stream was poor.

R.e. Finding results; it is always weirdly in the calendar section as opposed to the results section until the event is complete (afaik). That's how I found the qualifiers and semi results before the final started this morning.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: r-man on April 27, 2014, 11:25:40 pm
Good comp, shame about the stream. The match between jule and shauna was great, could have gone either way. dmitrii was super impressive, seemed a level above everyone else, just unlucky on the jumpy problem.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on April 28, 2014, 11:37:10 am
replays up on Wed according to IFSC on FB
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on April 28, 2014, 03:29:16 pm
little write up and some pics here:
http://news.climbing.de/ifsc-boulderworldcup-2014-in-chongqing-jule-wurm-and-jan-hojer-win/ (http://news.climbing.de/ifsc-boulderworldcup-2014-in-chongqing-jule-wurm-and-jan-hojer-win/)

(http://www.climbing.de/fileadmin/img/2014/04/bwc_china/ifsc_bwc_china_2014_04_27_17.jpg)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Lund on April 28, 2014, 03:44:24 pm
R.e. Finding results; it is always weirdly in the calendar section as opposed to the results section until the event is complete (afaik). That's how I found the qualifiers and semi results before the final started this morning.

You can use the app - search for "IFSC boulder 2014" on the iphone store.  Pretty good, results in real time, free.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: iwasmexican on April 30, 2014, 09:42:03 am
dmitrii was super impressive, seemed a level above everyone else, just unlucky on the jumpy problem.

He is just about the only climber that is makes it to every finals of world cups, his consistency is unreal... My moneys on him, Hojer got lucky the dividing problem was his style
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: highrepute on April 30, 2014, 09:49:01 am
IFSC Climbing World Cup - Chongqing 2014 - Boulder Finals Replay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oPolhvNjF8#ws)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: jwi on April 30, 2014, 10:33:09 am
Nice! Dimitri looked strong, but Hojer topped all problems, what more can you ask? 4 tops in 26 attempts is a bizarre score though...

The germans look strong on weird problems.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Muenchener on April 30, 2014, 11:18:55 am
The germans look strong on weird problems.

They are coached by Udo Neuman
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Durbs on April 30, 2014, 11:16:18 pm
Good comp, but strangely un-atmospheric in some way... (perhaps that was just me?). Maybe it's the outdoors just sucks all the sound away apart from the god-awful music.

Personally not a fan of the dyno for M1 - means everyone racked up lots of attempts on the first problem.

But OMG - Anna not on a podium?! Madness.

Question for Graeme (or anyone else who knows) - 2 comps in China, 1 in Azerbaijan (despite the lack of top climbers from these countries), yet no World Cup rounds in the UK. Why are these destinations chosen? Are they trying to spread the IFSC gospel or is that where the funding is? Just seems strange not to have any rounds here (except the pre-season CWIF), but 2 in China which isn't greatly known for it's bouldering...
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: GraemeA on May 01, 2014, 05:10:27 am
If you don't apply then you don't get chosen. Simples  ;D

But you are correct, it is where the money is. China has stacks of cash and has cities bidding to the CMA to host events. Azerbaijan has oil (and it appears the President of the Climbing Federation is the Oil Minister). Sheffield is stoney broke which is why the BBC is at The Works this year.

There was no atmosphere because the Chinese crowds behave differently. When Anna and Akiyo try to rally the crowd the crowd responds for 5 seconds. When someone tops the applause last 5 seconds. It's strange but the athletes are sort of used to it now, it felt really strange 3 years back with 10,000-15,000 people making no noise.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: flyguy on May 04, 2014, 11:52:46 am
Is today's final on at 1, it says +5 gmt time it starts at 17:00
 I always miss it because of my inability to grasp this simple concept
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: fried on May 04, 2014, 11:59:42 am
I have the same fundamental problem but luckily there's now a timer on the Youtube IFSC page. Starts in 45mins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6RvMSaKdqs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6RvMSaKdqs)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: flyguy on May 04, 2014, 12:45:06 pm
Excellent cheers.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: miso soup on May 04, 2014, 01:49:27 pm
Commentators basically admitting that M2 is morpho as shit and short-arses are fucked...
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: dontfollowme on May 04, 2014, 02:10:49 pm
Didn't realised Pucio had switched to Scarpa.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on May 04, 2014, 02:24:52 pm
What the fucking fuck ??
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: miso soup on May 04, 2014, 02:28:02 pm
Shauna just lost first place for a dab.  Total bullshit.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: miso soup on May 04, 2014, 02:34:25 pm
They can't even say for sure if she did dab because the cameras are so shit, there's been at least two complaints about loose holds and the clock doesn't work.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: flyguy on May 04, 2014, 02:51:46 pm
It's pretty crap but a dabs a dab. I usually enjoy these live streams but had to endure today's.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: tomtom on May 04, 2014, 02:54:43 pm
I thought the commentary was better than the last one I saw - but the event looked a bit Heath Robinson..
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: flyguy on May 04, 2014, 05:36:31 pm
I don't mind the commentary just found the camera work a bit frustrating and felt for the climbers with all the mess ups with the timings.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: tommytwotone on May 04, 2014, 07:32:26 pm
Dabgate from 1hr 42mins-ish here:


IFSC Climbing World Cup Baku 2014 Replay - Boulder - Finals - Men/Women (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6RvMSaKdqs#ws)



Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: rodma on May 04, 2014, 08:50:57 pm
It's pretty crap but a dabs a dab

Not in a comp it's not unless the rules have changed. It has to be seen to have helped you hold a swing or similar, so minor, even audible scuffs can be let go.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: flyguy on May 04, 2014, 09:24:33 pm
Not aware of comp rules. If it was outside and I wanted the tick it would be back around. Guess it is pretty harsh when such a minor thing can cause such a difference in results, the rules need to be clear and possibly the setting needs to do its best to eliminate this?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: miso soup on May 04, 2014, 09:54:31 pm
The commentator seemed to think it wouldn't count as an attempt.  It was the first move, it's not like it gave her any advantage.  And if the setting had been better it wouldn't have happened, and if the filming had been better we'd at least know for sure if it had happened or not.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: dontfollowme on May 04, 2014, 10:51:03 pm
One interview said the matting arrived late which may have impacted on setting.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: miso soup on May 04, 2014, 11:28:48 pm
Probably, it's not as if the setters were noobs.  Sounds like a bit of a shambles all round.  People are also saying it was someone in the crowd rather than a judge who called the dab.  Only on Twitter and Youtube comments thus far though, that one's yet to be confirmed by a reliable source.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: r-man on May 04, 2014, 11:38:47 pm
It's pretty crap but a dabs a dab

Not in a comp it's not unless the rules have changed. It has to be seen to have helped you hold a swing or similar, so minor, even audible scuffs can be let go.

The rules seem pretty clear:

Quote from: http://www.ifsc-climbing.org/images/World_competitions/Event_regulations/IFSC_Rules_2014_Version_05-04-2014.pdf
7.9.5
An attempt on a boulder shall be considered unsuccessful if the competitor...

e)Touches the ground with any part of the body
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: rodma on May 05, 2014, 06:54:09 am
Good find. Don't really know if it has changed or not.

I just know from being a frustrated competitor(6 plus years ago so easily will have changed ) that I had stepped off when dabbing on a low traverse start on 3 successive attempts and others carried on without penalty. When I questioned the powers that be they said it's was at the judge's (or chief judge's) discretion.

I don't think I've ever read the full rules. I guess Tim hatch would know. You soul be told to stop if you have done Something wrong at the start of the problem, rather than bring allowed to carry on and then told.

I didn't watch the comp so have no idea, but it wouldn't really be a sporting event without someone feeling hard done by.


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Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Fiend on May 05, 2014, 02:41:23 pm
Just rewatched that section several times. Very hard to see from the angle, the only thing that indicates a dab is that she flicks her foot up very quickly just after she cut loose - maybe it was the tiniest of dabs and that was her trying to prevent it. It's a pity because although the quoted rules are clear that is the minimum of dabs I've seen.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: jwi on May 05, 2014, 03:17:03 pm
Looked like a dab to me. Bad luck.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Sasquatch on May 05, 2014, 05:37:01 pm
The reaction makes it look like a dab on the first go, but her next go she does almost the exact same thing.  It's hard to say.  If she doesn't get another gold, she'll have every right to feel pretty hard done by.....
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: jwi on May 05, 2014, 06:47:08 pm
Why are there so few female setters? For bouldering the setters seems to struggle with getting the level just right for the women. Separating the first three on 4/4, 4/5 and 4/5 is hardly ideal (and sometimes the opposite happens : people win with just 2 tops). Female setters would maybe not struggle so much with getting the level right?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: GraemeA on May 05, 2014, 08:08:06 pm
Why are there so few female setters? For bouldering the setters seems to struggle with getting the level just right for the women. Separating the first three on 4/4, 4/5 and 4/5 is hardly ideal (and sometimes the opposite happens : people win with just 2 tops). Female setters would maybe not struggle so much with getting the level right?

Q1 agreed. But the rest ignores the fact that Shauna says quals in China was the best setting she has ever seen in a WC.

Female setters would struggle because there are no female setters at the required level. I don't know why this is and whilst at the BMC I certainly tried to encourage it but they just don't exist in the UK.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: miso soup on May 05, 2014, 10:26:14 pm
That La Sportiva Legends Only comp that Mellisa la Neve set was one of the better comps I've watched, and I pondered this a bit while watching it.  Jimmy Webb said he thought one of the problems was 8B+ and unless I'm mistaken I'm fairly sure Melissa has never climbed 8B+.  Could Jacky actually climb all these problems nowadays?  Or is that not what you meant by 'level?'
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: iwasmexican on May 05, 2014, 10:38:59 pm
That La Sportiva Legends Only comp that Mellisa la Neve set was one of the better comps I've watched, and I pondered this a bit while watching it.  Jimmy Webb said he thought one of the problems was 8B+ and unless I'm mistaken I'm fairly sure Melissa has never climbed 8B+.  Could Jacky actually climb all these problems nowadays?  Or is that not what you meant by 'level?'

Good setting can have surprisingly little to do with how strong (more so strong than actually good at climbing) the setter is. I briefly climbed with this guy *namedrop* https://vimeo.com/91557027 once before one of the world cups and we were both struggling on the same 7Aish problem. I think good setting has more to do with having as large as possible experience of different styles and movements, and also knowing the appropriate difficulty for the situation, maybe more so than actually being able to do every move.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: miso soup on May 05, 2014, 10:48:13 pm
That was my thinking.  Evie Cotrulia and Jackie Sequeira both set pretty good.  That's two...

(edit: spelt Evie's name wrong.)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: GraemeA on May 06, 2014, 06:29:56 am
That La Sportiva Legends Only comp that Mellisa la Neve set was one of the better comps I've watched, and I pondered this a bit while watching it.  Jimmy Webb said he thought one of the problems was 8B+ and unless I'm mistaken I'm fairly sure Melissa has never climbed 8B+.  Could Jacky actually climb all these problems nowadays?  Or is that not what you meant by 'level?'

Melissa didn't actually set all of the problems at the Legends. Boulders in World Cups are no where near as hard as in the Legends which is a worked comp.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: r-man on May 06, 2014, 11:06:44 am
I just tried to look at the world rankings on the ifsc website. Doesn't seem to be working. Can I get to them some other way?

I tried here:
https://www.ifsc-climbing.org/index.php/world-competition/rankings (https://www.ifsc-climbing.org/index.php/world-competition/rankings)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: turnipturned on May 06, 2014, 11:08:18 am
That Website does my head in, its awful. I can't seem to get the Full Results list link working either?!?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on May 06, 2014, 11:14:36 am
https://www.thebmc.co.uk/shauna-coxsey-within-sight-of-gold-in-azerbaijan (https://www.thebmc.co.uk/shauna-coxsey-within-sight-of-gold-in-azerbaijan)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: peewee on May 06, 2014, 12:20:51 pm
Try the old website here https://egw.ifsc-climbing.org/?page_name=ranglist
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: miso soup on May 06, 2014, 12:29:58 pm
Boulders in World Cups are no where near as hard as in the Legends which is a worked comp.

I know, that was part of my point/question.  Given that climbing world cup level problems is not a requirement for setting them were you saying that in your opinion none of the female setters in the UK (/world) set well enough for world cups?

(I'm not necessarily arguing with this if it is what you're saying, I know what I like climbing but don't consider myself any kind of authority on setting or world cups.  Just not sure I understood your post.)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: r-man on May 06, 2014, 12:38:15 pm
Try the old website here https://egw.ifsc-climbing.org/?page_name=ranglist


Thanks!
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: highrepute on May 06, 2014, 01:31:16 pm
Boulders in World Cups are no where near as hard as in the Legends which is a worked comp.

I know, that was part of my point/question.  Given that climbing world cup level problems is not a requirement for setting them were you saying that in your opinion none of the female setters in the UK (/world) set well enough for world cups?

(I'm not necessarily arguing with this if it is what you're saying, I know what I like climbing but don't consider myself any kind of authority on setting or world cups.  Just not sure I understood your post.)

I believe graeme was trying to say; there are qualifications required to set a WC and currently no women have these qualifications. This is what he meant when he said level.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: a dense loner on May 06, 2014, 04:08:14 pm
i'll go one further and say he meant they were shit at setting. for instance for one of the comps at the works the guest setter was none other than alex puchio, the few guys involved threw problems up all day while alex contemplated zen or some shit. in other words she did absolutely nothing, it took her all day to basically do one problem which matt ended up putting all the holds on after the number 2 with her stood there saying "no further, bigger pinch, i'm tired now after all that stress". so in my humble opinion she may be one of the strongest climbers in the world but couldn't set jelly. i've not seen any other women set a problem. the point people make about women setting for women is absurd.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: a dense loner on May 06, 2014, 04:15:00 pm
the other point i was going to make but didn't in the above should have included setting is basically a full time job for people to get good at. you know the difference immediately when even a good setter decided he needed a break and just threw the last couple of holds up. the women that are at the world cups are too busy climbing/training/competing to route set. i don't think many men of that standard set either do they?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: miso soup on May 06, 2014, 08:31:15 pm
I believe graeme was trying to say; there are qualifications required to set a WC and currently no women have these qualifications. This is what he meant when he said level.

Thanks, I had no idea you need needed a ticket to bolt holds to a wall.  That's pretty stupid but explains a lot.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: a dense loner on May 06, 2014, 08:51:19 pm
You don't need a ticket to bolt holds to a wall. You need a ticket to prove to all the other people that have got the ticket that you can do the same work under the same conditions in the same environment. Anyone can bolt holds to a wall not anyone can set a good boulder/route.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Durbs on May 07, 2014, 09:40:37 am
So aside from Dabgate, which no-one wanted to see (even Anna) still think it was a bit of a weak comp.

I really don't want to grumble about something I've not paid to see, but in terms of constructive criticism, there was a lot of room for improvement.

Plus points:
James co-commentating. I really like Dan's commentary, but always find it more interesting with a co-commentator, especially when it's a competitor. Top-stuff, keep it up.

Video feed quality - not the camera-work (obvs) - but having just downloaded it in HD from YouTube, the actual picture quality is great.

Room for improvement:
Camera-work - Not sure what they were filming on, but needed either a wider lens, a couple of steps back, or a filming platform.  They seem to be shying away from split-screen so far this season, which is frustrating as when done well it works.

Spectators - Harking back to my earlier question about "Why Azerbaijan?". Obviously you can't dis-regard the funding, but a crowd of 80 people, most of which were probably the competitors ain't great. I gather there's not an indoor wall in Baku, nor apparently any local climbing, so probably not much of a scene there to draw a crowd. Odd. Just felt for the competitors.

Anyhoo - back in Europe this weekend, so hopefully will be back on track. Think a lot of the Youtube comments were overly harsh (as always). Keep up the great job Team IFSC - and come on Shauna!
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: GraemeA on May 07, 2014, 10:34:30 am
The internet was the one stand out amazing thing in Baku, it was 147 Mb upload, Johnny (the Horizon desk johnny) was coming in his pants when he was doing the speed tests. "Better than Korea" was all he could say - apparently Korean internet is the benchmark.

They did build platforms for the cameras as per the requirements, but then they put the boulders on a stage that was higher than the platforms.

The cameramen were a bug problem. They spoke no English so it was impossible to direct them. And then 2 of them disappeared half way through the finals.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: flyguy on May 08, 2014, 12:35:54 pm
an interesting breakdown of the comp http://thecircuitclimbing.wordpress.com/2014/05/07/baku-2014-the-circuit-review/ (http://thecircuitclimbing.wordpress.com/2014/05/07/baku-2014-the-circuit-review/)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Durbs on May 09, 2014, 05:13:16 pm
Looking forward, my call for Gindlewald:

1) Jan - Takes the home advantage
2) Kililan - Not far behind
3) Dimitry

1) Shauna - Riding high off the dab
2) Julia - Home advantage
3) Anna - Pressure
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: finbarrr on May 09, 2014, 06:02:03 pm
grindelwald is in switzerland, jan and juliana are german
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: a dense loner on May 09, 2014, 06:02:45 pm
3) Anna pressure?
Interesting theory durbs, I don't think she'd know what pressure was unless Barrows sat on her
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Muenchener on May 09, 2014, 06:54:33 pm
1) Jan - Takes the home advantage

2) Julia - Home advantage

Struggling to grasp what home advantage German climbers have over Austrian climbers in Switzerland.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on May 09, 2014, 08:19:16 pm
Grindlewald preview from the circuit:

http://thecircuitclimbing.wordpress.com/2014/05/09/grindelwald-world-cup-preview-2014/ (http://thecircuitclimbing.wordpress.com/2014/05/09/grindelwald-world-cup-preview-2014/)

Semis 0930 uk time, Finals 1530
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Durbs on May 10, 2014, 01:00:09 pm
Fine geography knowledge there...  :wall:

Pressure as in didn't podium in Chongqing, nearly missed gold in Baku. Think she'll be trying extra hard to stamp her authority back on the pack, but might miss and stub her toe.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: GraemeA on May 10, 2014, 02:57:44 pm
Shauna has just finished her quals, currently 1st with 5t9 ahead of Akiyo on 5t13 but Melissa is 4t4 after 4 boulders

Other group the results aren't up to date, 3 tablets not working - have 12 need 10 so both spares plus 1 is down. I'll be at Cole Bros on Tuesday getting replacements. Pooch did P5. Will get them updated soon.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on May 10, 2014, 04:39:01 pm
Looks like all usual suspects incl Shauna and mina through to semis for women. No Brit men through though, plus looks like Sean mcoll and jorg verhoven out.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on May 10, 2014, 06:38:54 pm
Balls, seems like I posted too soon and the girls hadn't finished - mina just missed out in 21st
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on May 11, 2014, 11:52:29 am
Petra and Rustam heroes to zeroes - neither near final places. Usual suspects for the women plus Rebekka Stotz, Shauna in first so looking good in the case of easy finals probs. Two Japanese men in final and looks like one more just off finals too - plus Akiyo - where did they come from? 1530 for finals.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: GraemeA on May 11, 2014, 11:59:52 am
Tsukuru and Rei are hardly surprise finalist though Durbs.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on May 11, 2014, 02:39:37 pm
Yeah, prob shows my ignorance of the non euros more than anything else
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Nibile on May 11, 2014, 03:21:24 pm
Kruder showed up late for isolation and won't be in the final...
Schoolboy error???!!!
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on May 11, 2014, 03:31:31 pm
Idiot. Shame, he was looking in very good shape.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on May 11, 2014, 03:36:30 pm
Does that mean Shauna will climb on her own?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: GraemeA on May 11, 2014, 04:18:11 pm
No, Rebekka who is first out climbs on her own
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Doylo on May 11, 2014, 05:37:10 pm
Shauna won! Fuckin amazing!
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Nibile on May 11, 2014, 05:40:31 pm
With just only one more available attempt to get the gold!!!
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: psychomansam on May 11, 2014, 05:41:35 pm
GET IN!!!!
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Moo on May 11, 2014, 05:50:53 pm
 :punk: :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Durbs on May 11, 2014, 06:11:03 pm
Epic. My predictions not too far off either, 2nd and 3rd reversed for both :D So pleased for Shauna

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Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: r-man on May 11, 2014, 06:26:55 pm
GRINDELGOLD!!
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Durbs on May 12, 2014, 09:08:31 am
Also, super-bonus-points for the organisers - right back on track with overall quality of the event.

No streaming issues, the event flowed really smoothly - top job all round.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Fiend on May 12, 2014, 03:24:50 pm
Watched the re-broadcast, seemed really good. Rei on M3 was brilliant.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Paul B on May 12, 2014, 04:41:20 pm
No streaming issues, the event flowed really smoothly - top job all round.

I found the 4-way split screen on the semi's to be a bit pants... but apart from that, yes.

Congrats and wow etc. to Shauna. Impressive.  :strongbench:
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on May 16, 2014, 12:30:01 pm
Men's qualifiers at moment, Ondra looks like he might not make it - 18th with lots more folk to climb. The circuit doesn't seem too impressed with the setting either (comment on fb that app won't let me paste here)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: turnipturned on May 16, 2014, 12:56:26 pm
(comment on fb that app won't let me paste here)

Quote
It's an interesting men's qualification round here in Innsbruck. After the near perfect setting of last week we are faced with two distinctly different groups.
 In mens A the routes are VERY hard with all the climbers struggling.
 In mens B, 4 of the problems are quite soft meaning it comes down to attempts...

 On top of that lots of climbers are struggling with the holds taken from the local Tevoli gym. You would expect a competition the caliber of Innsbruck would use new holds.

 Still most of the usual suspects are through and tomorrow is another day.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on May 16, 2014, 01:01:20 pm
That's the one, cheers.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: r-man on May 16, 2014, 02:17:52 pm
Innsbruck 2014 - Men's Qualifiers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSRCiZUkcNc#ws)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: davej on May 16, 2014, 03:03:05 pm
Thanks for the link :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on May 16, 2014, 04:55:39 pm
usual suspects all through for girls. looks like Mina LW has good chance of going through too. The mid week redpointing in the frankenjura doesn't seem to have done Melissa Le Neve any harm - through in joint second.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: r-man on May 16, 2014, 07:58:08 pm
Innsbruck 2014 - Women's Qualifiers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGM_vxdxWgk#ws)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on May 17, 2014, 04:25:03 pm
So, I assume you're all out enjoying the weather, and so was I till now, so haven't seen video, but some interesting results from the semis:
No Alex or Jule in the girls, and no Jan or Jernej in the boys.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: davej on May 17, 2014, 04:32:45 pm
Enjoyed the semi's Noguchi was very impressive
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on May 17, 2014, 07:50:44 pm
Shauna only one to top problem one! No one else even got the bonus, could be handy depending on other probs
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: dontfollowme on May 17, 2014, 08:11:32 pm
Anyone got a you tube link for the final?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Muenchener on May 17, 2014, 08:18:47 pm
Will over-caffeinated sugary drink company (http://live.over-caffeinated sugary drink company.tv/events/425/ifsc-boulder-world-cup-2014-Innsbruck/) do?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on May 17, 2014, 08:33:32 pm
The stream doesn't work for me, might just be because I'm on my phone though?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on May 17, 2014, 08:39:49 pm
Take it back, seems to have been an issue with chrome
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Fiend on May 17, 2014, 09:01:19 pm
Why was I not watching this earlier? Looks great, massive crowd and production values. Melissa pulling some serious shapes, quite a show-woman too. Ondrawad just got told off for not having both feet on the starting hold, pouted, then pissed the problem like it was a casual warm-up. Knife-edge for Shauna  :devangel:
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Muenchener on May 17, 2014, 09:03:03 pm
Would be nice to see Akiyo top F4 now that she's no threat to Shauna.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Fiend on May 17, 2014, 09:05:27 pm
In!  :clap2:
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Muenchener on May 17, 2014, 09:12:43 pm
Melissa ( :wub: :strongbench:) on strength through yoga and badminton:

http://youtu.be/52YSPpqzMuQ (http://youtu.be/52YSPpqzMuQ)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: psychomansam on May 17, 2014, 09:24:36 pm
Cooooxseeeeey!  :icon_beerchug:
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on May 17, 2014, 09:40:52 pm
Boom! Thought it was all going wrong when Melissa made W4 look doable
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on May 17, 2014, 09:42:50 pm
Also, Ondra must be seething! That cost him gold didn't it?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: r-man on May 17, 2014, 09:48:09 pm
No, killian still would have won on count back.

Great comp. awesome stuff from shauna. Impressive hip flexibility from ondra. Epic perserverance from rustam.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on May 17, 2014, 10:02:58 pm
How so? Kilian 4t7 4b6, Ondra 4t8 4b6. So if he'd flashed M4, they'd have tied tops, but Adam would have had less tries for his bonus' surely.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: r-man on May 17, 2014, 10:09:46 pm
Sorry, you're right, wasn't paying attention to bonuses.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: sxrxg on May 18, 2014, 12:05:28 am
Does anyone know if there is a replay of the finals available anywhere? The ifsc YouTube channel usually has one however it doesn't seem to be there, wondering if this maybe something to do with over-caffeinated sugary drink company doing the stream?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Lopez on May 18, 2014, 12:43:41 am

Still available at the ifsc site (url says Grindelwald but it's in there)


http://www.ifsc-climbing.org/index.php/news/latest-news/item/264-live-ifsc-world-cup-grindelwald-2014 (http://www.ifsc-climbing.org/index.php/news/latest-news/item/264-live-ifsc-world-cup-grindelwald-2014)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Xan on May 18, 2014, 09:17:36 am
Finals available on YouTube from 10:30 Sunday, according to the IFSC Twitter feed.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: J_duds on May 18, 2014, 09:20:03 am
We can't wait that long... We've been trying not to see the results!
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on May 18, 2014, 09:33:57 am
If I follow muncheners link from a page ago it lets you watch again on demand?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Clart on May 19, 2014, 10:40:56 pm
Good final that. Obviously awesome for Shauna. Spirited Ondra bollocked it up on the slab then that false started on the final prob. That's comps for I suppose.
Also I notice Tyler Landman is competing for team GB in Toronto, should be interesting.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: jwi on May 23, 2014, 12:10:02 pm
Udo Neumann's mid term report
Boulder World Cup 2014 mid term report (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXWcRloAE2g#ws)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: T_B on May 30, 2014, 10:16:37 am
Be interesting to see how Ty gets on in Toronto http://www.ifsc-climbing.org/index.php/world-competition/calendar# (http://www.ifsc-climbing.org/index.php/world-competition/calendar#)!type=starters&comp=1517
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on May 31, 2014, 06:59:35 pm
Is Dimitri not competing in Toronto? Looks like Ty is through to the semis.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: r-man on May 31, 2014, 07:31:52 pm
Visa problems apparently.

Shauna and Diane through too.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: r-man on May 31, 2014, 09:28:22 pm
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky_O3PhskJA (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky_O3PhskJA)

Men's Qualifier vid
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on May 31, 2014, 09:44:54 pm
Visa problems apparently.
boo. hope jan doesn't win it and the overall as a result. Do you know if he'll be in Vail?
Shauna and Diane through too.
Go Diane! great result! Where you getting your info - the app on my phone hardly seems to have any of the girls scores on it?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: r-man on May 31, 2014, 10:05:32 pm
From the ifsc site, but perhaps I misread it. Looked like they were all done, but is it possible I just saw the running order and they are only just getting going?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: standard on May 31, 2014, 10:14:53 pm
Qualification currently ongoing. Live scoreboard here
http://www.ifsc-climbing.org/index.php/world-competition# (http://www.ifsc-climbing.org/index.php/world-competition#)!comp=1517&cat=5
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: standard on June 01, 2014, 07:04:02 pm
ok, who is the new super shouty commentator?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: GraemeA on June 01, 2014, 07:39:47 pm
That'll be Ade, he is the boss of Horizon and does a lot of the code as well as occasionally filling in as commentator
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Wood FT on June 01, 2014, 08:09:47 pm
shouty man is okay by me, he says the problems are being solved, for this I like him.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: rich d on June 01, 2014, 08:17:22 pm
 :sorry:
shouty man is okay by me, he says the problems are being solved, for this I like him.
god that website is crap, what time are the finals on?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: abarro81 on June 01, 2014, 08:31:35 pm
10 uk time IIRC
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: rich d on June 01, 2014, 08:33:02 pm
10 uk time IIRC
cheers
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Stu Littlefair on June 01, 2014, 10:05:26 pm
I'm a fan of shouty ade. Settling down for the finals now. Really want Sean to win. Cheeky little chap.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: PipeSmoke on June 01, 2014, 10:22:14 pm
Is it me or are the cameras a bit poorer quality than usual?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on June 01, 2014, 10:50:01 pm
Seem ok to me
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on June 01, 2014, 10:52:22 pm
Fuck me, that was pretty awesome from Jan on m1!
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: bigtuboflard on June 01, 2014, 10:53:26 pm
Jan Hojer on P1, bloody hell. :o
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: abarro81 on June 01, 2014, 11:00:00 pm
Is it me or are the cameras a bit poorer quality than usual?

Are you just set on a lower quality setting on youtube?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on June 01, 2014, 11:01:46 pm
Commentators did mention one of the cameras getting a lot of chalk blown on to it?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: psychomansam on June 01, 2014, 11:08:29 pm
Jan Hojer on P1, bloody hell. :o

Not bad eh!
Bit soft for the ladies so far, makes up for the semis.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on June 01, 2014, 11:19:34 pm
Gigi- legend!
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: PipeSmoke on June 01, 2014, 11:49:46 pm
Is it me or are the cameras a bit poorer quality than usual?

Are you just set on a lower quality setting on youtube?

haha thanks, been watching it on 360 for ages
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: psychomansam on June 02, 2014, 12:15:03 am
Brilliant result for Shauna - Silver
But particularly brilliant for her in the rankings since it was such an awful one for Anna.
Just a little more of this solid consistency (and no broken legs) and she'll be numero uno lady 2014.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on June 02, 2014, 01:02:45 am
Nice interview with Shauna from this afternoon
IFSC Climbing World Cup Toronto 2014 - Shauna Coxsey on her current form (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pweTt7_NwT8#ws)
and Sean McColl
IFSC Climbing World Cup Toronto 2014 - Extended Interview with Sean McColl, the complete climber (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMeRbsTM3SQ#ws)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: r-man on June 02, 2014, 02:00:27 am
Another good comp, though I thought that for the women especially the semis were better than the finals. Probably because the problems were harder.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: psychomansam on June 02, 2014, 09:20:10 am
Another good comp, though I thought that for the women especially the semis were better than the finals. Probably because the problems were harder.

Yeah, good setting for the men, great watching, went up to the line, and the mens and womens last problems were both good, but the first 3 F were just too easy. I'm sure it's a difficult balance to get though. Good to see Akiyo get gold - well deserved win from another consistently impressive climber.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: davej on June 02, 2014, 09:53:14 am
Brillant performance by Akiyo her technical ability is amazing!!
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Oldmanmatt on June 02, 2014, 10:24:16 am
Miho is the one to watch. Strong and steady, very young but rising rapidly from nowhere.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on June 02, 2014, 10:32:31 am
Yeah she looked very good, we need a wc in Japan not Azerbaijan!
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: davej on June 02, 2014, 11:05:00 am
Yes Miho climbed superbly she's only 16 or 17 years old!!
Out of interest who is the guy commentating??
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: psychomansam on June 02, 2014, 11:32:45 am
The Shauna show. (http://www.ifsc-climbing.org/index.php/world-competition/calendar#!type=ranking&cat=ICC_FB&cup=14_WC)

Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: slackline on June 02, 2014, 11:35:57 am
Out of interest who is the guy commentating??

Scroll down the thread.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: fatneck on June 02, 2014, 12:00:05 pm
Well worth staying up late for! Akiyo was super impressive... Hoping Shauna can continue with her impressive form and keep Akiyo off her back!!
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: a dense loner on June 02, 2014, 12:04:59 pm
Staying up late? What are you a milkman?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Oldmanmatt on June 02, 2014, 12:58:14 pm

Staying up late? What are you a milkman?
Probably just Diurnal and non- vampiric.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Jaspersharpe on June 02, 2014, 08:58:34 pm
Are you insinuating that there's something wrong with not having a reflection? It'll be garlic and crosses next, they don't work you know.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Durbs on June 02, 2014, 09:49:56 pm
Urgh, stand in commentator: did not like.
Everything else was top. Bit nervous the women's was going to count back but excellent last problem.
Good to see Pooch back on form and great to see Akiyo get a gold (her first ever?).

Jan is a beast, but think M2 and M1 were pretty morpho.

Will be interesting to see the non-regular yanks in Vail next week.

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Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Teaboy on June 02, 2014, 10:08:54 pm
The thing that struck me was that it didn't look like Shauna knew how to fist bump, she looked terribly British! I thought she was going to leave the MC hanging.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: mr__j5 on June 02, 2014, 10:34:40 pm
Good to see Pooch back on form and great to see Akiyo get a gold (her first ever?).

No. Something like her 14th.

It's just that even though she has still been climbing really well lately, she hasn't won one since Aug 2012.

http://egw.ifsc-climbing.org/index.php?page_name=pstambl&all=1&person=6326&cat=5#results (http://egw.ifsc-climbing.org/index.php?page_name=pstambl&all=1&person=6326&cat=5#results)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Fiend on June 03, 2014, 10:08:47 pm
Just watched it, very good, some real nice moments in there. Chon on the ball mantle, Shauna's figure 4, and Miho in general  :wub: Not one for those afraid of volume weirdness problems though, jeez!
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on June 06, 2014, 10:29:33 pm
Woods, Landman, and Kassay fail to qualify for semis in Vail. Girls climbing now.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on June 07, 2014, 10:28:50 am
If I've got this right, semis are 1700 BST, Finals 2330 BST

...and I've got to get up at 6 for work tomorrow  :slap:
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Clart on June 07, 2014, 03:20:41 pm
Woods, Landman, and Kassay fail to qualify for semis in Vail. Girls climbing now.
Shit! Just goes to show the level at which the regular finalists are operating.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: psychomansam on June 07, 2014, 03:34:19 pm
Shauna 9th in quals.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on June 07, 2014, 05:16:52 pm
on now:
http://www.ifsc-climbing.org/ (http://www.ifsc-climbing.org/)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on June 07, 2014, 06:15:24 pm
Shauna just gave up on F2 having got to the penultimate hold and with a minute 40 to go?!
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: psychomansam on June 07, 2014, 06:40:31 pm
Well this is going to be f&*king close!
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: psychomansam on June 07, 2014, 07:20:40 pm
Assuming the scoreboards ARE actually right for once... Angela Payne touched but didn't hold the finish on F4 and Puccio lost her balance ridiculously and fell off F4 ... so it looks like Shauna's through.

No-one has a fucking clue whether Fischuber has qualified! Database doom.

EDIT: He did. Loads of men with 2/2 tops, so it went to bonuses for positions 4,5,6 with three climbers through with 4/5.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on June 07, 2014, 07:22:02 pm
Looks like she made it, would have been shit to have missed the final for another silly mistake. Feel bad for Alex though, missing the finals at home, having looked so good on everything but F3.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: r-man on June 07, 2014, 07:32:14 pm
Shauna just gave up on F2 having got to the penultimate hold and with a minute 40 to go?!

That was weird. Injury niggle maybe?

Made for a tense finish anyway. Shame for Puccio, but perhaps even more for Angela Payne who got so close to doing all four problems only to be thwarted by the final move of the final problem.

Roll on finals...
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: jakes on June 07, 2014, 09:28:43 pm
Coxsey through by the skin of her teeth!!
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: psychomansam on June 07, 2014, 11:52:14 pm
Oh dear, first out, no top, no bonus. Apparently there's an injury rumour. Don't know but so far she doesn't look as intense as normal. Here's hopin'!
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: psychomansam on June 08, 2014, 12:16:16 am
Oh dear, first out, no top, no bonus. Apparently there's an injury rumour. Don't know but so far she doesn't look as intense as normal. Here's hopin'!

She just hadn't worked out the method on F1. Stohr fell off too, so there's still hope of a medal, though there's some upstarts climbing well. Shauna just flashed F2. Much more like it. Though she gave a grimace while holding the top hold.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: psychomansam on June 08, 2014, 12:47:20 am
Oh dear, first out, no top, no bonus. Apparently there's an injury rumour. Don't know but so far she doesn't look as intense as normal. Here's hopin'!

She just hadn't worked out the method on F1. Stohr fell off too, so there's still hope of a medal, though there's some upstarts climbing well. Shauna just flashed F2. Much more like it. Though she gave a grimace while holding the top hold.

After 2nd problem all climbers out she was in third place, with some climbers struggling on F2. However she's just failed on F3. Bonus in 2.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: psychomansam on June 08, 2014, 01:17:42 am
Oh dear, first out, no top, no bonus. Apparently there's an injury rumour. Don't know but so far she doesn't look as intense as normal. Here's hopin'!

She just hadn't worked out the method on F1. Stohr fell off too, so there's still hope of a medal, though there's some upstarts climbing well. Shauna just flashed F2. Much more like it. Though she gave a grimace while holding the top hold.

After 2nd problem all climbers out she was in third place, with some climbers struggling on F2. However she's just failed on F3. Bonus in 2.
Akiyo continues to dominate, flashing F3.
Oh dear, not Shauna's day! No medal. Currently in 4th but we'll see. 1 flash. Just wasn't looking her usual self today. Maybe the 3k of elevation was giving her issues? Hopefully she'll be on top form again in a couple of weeks for the next round.

Some good setting in this final I thought.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: psychomansam on June 08, 2014, 01:43:56 am
Oh dear, first out, no top, no bonus. Apparently there's an injury rumour. Don't know but so far she doesn't look as intense as normal. Here's hopin'!

She just hadn't worked out the method on F1. Stohr fell off too, so there's still hope of a medal, though there's some upstarts climbing well. Shauna just flashed F2. Much more like it. Though she gave a grimace while holding the top hold.

After 2nd problem all climbers out she was in third place, with some climbers struggling on F2. However she's just failed on F3. Bonus in 2.
Akiyo continues to dominate, flashing F3.
Oh dear, not Shauna's day! No medal. Currently in 4th but we'll see. 1 flash. Just wasn't looking her usual self today. Maybe the 3k of elevation was giving her issues? Hopefully she'll be on top form again in a couple of weeks for the next round.

Some good setting in this final I thought.

5th place. Akiyo was impressive. I believe Shauna's lead in the rankings will be down to 11 points ahead of Akiyo, with Anna about 45 points behind.

Snoozetime.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: r-man on June 08, 2014, 02:17:18 am
Always interesting just how much difference the altitude seems to make - everyone puffing and panting and only really two good goes possible in 4min.

Good comp. Shame Shauna didn't figure out F1, she would have had a good chance at silver. Akiyo was amazing.

Lots of talk about the young Americans coming through the ranks, but when will Ashima start doing world cups? She's the one to be really excited about. Or nervous if you are a competitor...

Edit: Just googled, she's still only 13, so 3 years to go.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: davej on June 08, 2014, 09:43:08 am
Great viewing Akiyo was super impressive. Altitude makes a big difference  but on a positive note dyno's go further!
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Fiend on June 08, 2014, 05:07:57 pm
On replay now. Bloody great finals. Good vibes, good co-commentary, and some great problems - I think every problem had one section where competitors managed to come up with two different methods, that was really impressive.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: fried on June 08, 2014, 05:17:41 pm
Excellent semis, good finals. The camera work was good, even the commentary was good in the finals. Even if Andy Lamb was referred to a few times as Andy Earl :thumbsup:.

At this rate ther"ll be nothing to moan about and GraemeA'll have nothing to do.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Durbs on June 09, 2014, 09:04:36 am
Good final! Obviously not the result we were hoping for, but entertaining all the same.
All about Akiyo at the moment.

Shauna didn't seem to be her usual self (based on nothing other than body language) - altitude or tiredness maybe?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: GraemeA on June 09, 2014, 07:23:13 pm
Check out Jeremy Bonder at 1hr11mins, picking at the laminate to create a hold. Naughty boy got stopped and got a yellow card
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Durbs on June 10, 2014, 09:32:10 am
Oh that's what he  was doing. I thought he was just crimping on a wall-seam.

Not allowed anyway as it's not a start hold surely?

Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: a dense loner on June 10, 2014, 09:48:21 am
No, it's not allowed full stop
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: psychomansam on June 10, 2014, 04:08:33 pm
No, it's not allowed full stop

It's the solution to about half the slab/vertical problems at the Works. Hope you're not claiming it's out there too!
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: a dense loner on June 10, 2014, 05:56:47 pm
I was on about picking at the laminate to use as a hold
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: psychomansam on June 10, 2014, 09:22:40 pm
I was on about picking at the laminate to use as a hold

Me too  :whistle:
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: GraemeA on June 11, 2014, 10:10:06 pm
Oh that's what he  was doing. I thought he was just crimping on a wall-seam.

Not allowed anyway as it's not a start hold surely?

Check the previous climber and see how much bare ply has appeared when Jeremy stops - we have a nother vid from a better angle that shows it much better
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: a dense loner on June 12, 2014, 09:41:12 am
Just let me get this right for the sake of my sanity Sam, you're saying half of the slab problems at the works are done by people picking at the laminate so they can pull on the tiny seam they've just made? I haven't seen this once while I've been drinking coffee. I've seen people pulling at the seam at the join of two panels but that's all I can lay claim to. If the probs set like this that's fine but if it's obvious that you're cheating you're doing just that
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: psychomansam on June 12, 2014, 08:26:17 pm
Just let me get this right for the sake of my sanity Sam, you're saying half of the slab problems at the works are done by people picking at the laminate so they can pull on the tiny seam they've just made? I haven't seen this once while I've been drinking coffee. I've seen people pulling at the seam at the join of two panels but that's all I can lay claim to. If the probs set like this that's fine but if it's obvious that you're cheating you're doing just that

Although seams, bolt-holes, knackered panels. Amusingly, they specifically referenced the 'local knowledge' holds which had developed when replacing the main slab at one point. But I was exaggerating preposterously. Engage humour. Sanity restored. You can blame the internet for the confusion.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Fiend on June 14, 2014, 11:40:29 am
Bolt holes are fair game, well on the wall, not in the holds of course.

Is the coffee still good, Dense?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: psychomansam on June 14, 2014, 01:36:54 pm
Bolt holes are fair game, well on the wall, not in the holds of course.

Is the coffee still good, Dense?

Whatever. They're in on the holds too. If they're not supposed to be used, they can be capped.  :yes:
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: mr__j5 on June 16, 2014, 10:51:27 am
Bolt holes are fair game, well on the wall, not in the holds of course.

Is the coffee still good, Dense?

And this is of course the exact opposite of the World Cup rules.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Stubbs on June 16, 2014, 11:00:49 am
Bolt holes are fair game, well on the wall, not in the holds of course.


Dmitry Sharafutdinov - The Mono (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr0UrBJkrr0#ws)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: a dense loner on June 16, 2014, 11:05:15 am
I think mr_j5 was referring to the terrible coffee at the comps, bolt holes are simply holes for bolts
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: mr__j5 on June 16, 2014, 11:43:24 am
:) No.

I meant that at the World Cups, you can use the bolt holes on the holds, but you can't use the bolt holds on the walls or volumes.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: a dense loner on June 16, 2014, 06:32:50 pm
I know but I had to get another coffee in somewhere  ;)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on June 21, 2014, 02:13:32 am
Anyone else up tonight for the semis?
http://www.ifsc-climbing.org/ (http://www.ifsc-climbing.org/)

Now, 25 entries in the men, 24 in the women...

Hardly worth having qualifying was it?

Surely in future the ifsc should be looking at the location and scheduling of these events with the athletes and audience more in mind? I know there's money in china, and it seems the crowds come out to watch, but given the lack of top level competitors and the travel for most of the athletes surely one event is enough? I'd like to see a round in japan - they've a very strong team atm, and also convenient for other eastern teams. And what was the point of Baku, apart from (I assume) the money?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on June 21, 2014, 02:47:58 am
wtf is going on now?? rain break? seriously, and they flew all the way back to china for this?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on June 21, 2014, 05:01:45 am
? and now IFSC has put on FB that top 8 girls through to finals??

Shauna and Akiyo looked v good, cant see past these two for later. Mens semis too hard, 1 top got you to final. No Dmitrii  :(
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on June 21, 2014, 12:42:29 pm
So Shauna needs to make top three and finish ahead of Akiyo in Laval to win the overall I think. Big ask the way akiyo is going atm (the second bit, not the first.)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on June 22, 2014, 04:56:34 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10451783_699605233408308_3647278113753312244_n.jpg)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: psychomansam on June 22, 2014, 08:35:08 am
So Shauna needs to make top three and finish ahead of Akiyo in Laval to win the overall I think. Big ask the way akiyo is going atm (the second bit, not the first.)

They're both very consistent. And I do think that when Shauna engages full beast mode she can outshine Akiyo on some of the power problems. But Akiyo is so much better at these than she used to be. It's so close and will just come down to who's on top form that day.

Has to be said though, Shauna started the season better, while Akiyo has been getting stronger throughout....
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Paul B on June 22, 2014, 10:35:34 am
The other thing to be said is that this amount of competition makes it far more interesting to follow!
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: r-man on June 23, 2014, 06:22:42 pm
Yeah, that comp could have gone either way. Two more tries on the dyno were all that cost Shauna the gold. Difficult to judge either Akiyo or Shauna better when they both flashed the next problem and couldn't do the last two. Seems like they are so close a little bit of good or bad luck can really make a difference...
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Clart on June 25, 2014, 09:47:46 am
Videos of Haiyang boulder and lead comps now up on youtube:

Lead Finals:
IFSC Climbing World Cup Haiyang 2014 - Lead - Finals - Men/Women (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nGoXwgKHtg#ws)

Bouldering Finals:
IFSC Climbing World Cup Haiyang 2014 - Boulder - Finals - Men/Women (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svBb8HxoNQc#ws)

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: erm, sam on June 25, 2014, 10:53:58 am
I had given up hope!
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: jwi on June 25, 2014, 11:58:40 am
Even though there where few tops it was a great watch. Missed Sharafutinov though.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on June 25, 2014, 02:37:23 pm
I had given up hope!
no YouTube in China so they have to wait till they get home to upload
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on June 27, 2014, 11:08:42 am
Michaela Tracy through to semis in Laval. (Shauna too obviously)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on June 27, 2014, 11:13:42 am
May have spoken too soon, seems there's still some athletes to finish. Stupid ifsc app.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on June 27, 2014, 11:16:40 am
Sure it used to show the whole entry list, now only seems to add people as they finish?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Wood FT on June 27, 2014, 11:19:59 am
go on Michaela! I assume she's been told by someone rather than using the app as she's just posted it on FB
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on June 27, 2014, 11:25:00 am
Awesome! App is now showing semi finalists and includes her.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Durbs on June 27, 2014, 12:03:29 pm
Graeme put this up on t'other channel - just to raise the tension:

So Shauna comes 4th and Akiyo 5th we get the following
   Akiyo 565+51-worst score (51) = 565
   Shauna 556+55-worst score (51) = 560

If Shauna comes 3rd and Akiyo 4th we get the following
   Akiyo 565+55-worst score (55) = 565
   Shauna 556+65-worst score (51) = 570

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: r-man on June 27, 2014, 12:37:51 pm
Laval 2014 - Women's Qualifiers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgqwwk4RfNE#ws)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: standard on June 27, 2014, 03:26:25 pm
looks like barrans qualified for the semis
http://www.ifsc-climbing.org/index.php/world-competition# (http://www.ifsc-climbing.org/index.php/world-competition#)!comp=1522&cat=6
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on June 27, 2014, 03:30:51 pm
are the mens all finished then? app still shows a few to go. Dmitrii looks like he may not make it!
great result for GB team anyway
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: gme on June 27, 2014, 03:36:23 pm
Is it just me or is the IFSC site about as bad as websites can get.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on June 27, 2014, 03:39:35 pm
It's not you
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Durbs on June 27, 2014, 04:42:54 pm
Looks like Men's Quals 2 was quite a bit easier than Quals 1 if the tops and bonuses are anything to go by (haven't watched the video...)

Or is there a dyno somewhere where people are racking up the attempts?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Durbs on June 27, 2014, 04:44:54 pm
Hang on a gosh darn second - Sharifutinov failed to qualify?!!
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: r-man on June 27, 2014, 04:49:30 pm
Balls. Was looking forward to a Jan vs Dmitrii final.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Durbs on June 27, 2014, 04:50:38 pm
Indeed - so Jan takes overall gold (well deserved!) but does slightly remove the tension
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: r-man on June 27, 2014, 04:58:33 pm
Looks like you were right to pick him in top 3 at the beginning of the year!

Also looks like Gigi could move into silver if he does well.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Durbs on June 27, 2014, 05:21:05 pm
Looks like you were right to pick him in top 3 at the beginning of the year!


I think the least said about my predictions the better... But I was right about Jan & Dima
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on June 27, 2014, 05:33:31 pm
Also looks like Gigi could move into silver if he does well.
4th place ties for silver I think?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: EmilyJoy on June 27, 2014, 07:43:27 pm
Anyone know why Akiyo's not listed as having qualified?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on June 27, 2014, 07:51:22 pm
She was on the list I saw?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: ducko on June 27, 2014, 08:50:01 pm
The list on ifsc website is toss, shauna Anna and akiyo all qualified joint first
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: psychomansam on June 27, 2014, 09:03:07 pm
The list on ifsc website is toss, shauna Anna and akiyo all qualified joint first

Perhaps they'll all draw on countback in the semis too!
I'm actually pretty annoyed right now that my mates wedding is tomorrow.   :-[
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Clart on June 28, 2014, 10:55:58 am
What is going on with Dimitrii this season? His form seems to be all over the shop. It's a shame as Jan as had an 'easy' run as a result. The women's comp has definitely been much more exciting. Great to see some more GB action in the semis as well.  :popcorn:
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: ducko on June 28, 2014, 11:10:41 am
I think jan is just so much stronger than the other guys maybe dimirti needs to up his game to compete with the new kids on the block
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: r-man on June 28, 2014, 11:35:51 am
What?! Are you lot watching the same comps as me? Dmitrii cruises stuff that the others bust a gut to climb - he just seems to be so much stronger. Jan's super power seems to be big moves and slopey holds - often he skips the normal crux by jumping past it, but on normal moves he doesn't look quite as good Dmitrii. It's been an interesting battle which Jan has won, but I think it's a bit strange to suggest that Dmitrii has had a poor season - I just looked at their results and they've both been in the finals 5 times this year. Jan has 3 golds and Dmitrii has 2.

It is a shame that Dmitrii failed to qualify, but surely the only conclusion that you can draw is that he had a bad day.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Duma on June 28, 2014, 01:47:22 pm
What?! Are you lot watching the same comps as me? Dmitrii cruises stuff that the others bust a gut to climb - he just seems to be so much stronger. Jan's super power seems to be big moves and slopey holds - often he skips the normal crux by jumping past it, but on normal moves he doesn't look quite as good Dmitrii. It's been an interesting battle which Jan has won, but I think it's a bit strange to suggest that Dmitrii has had a poor season - I just looked at their results and they've both been in the finals 5 times this year. Jan has 3 golds and Dmitrii has 2.

It is a shame that Dmitrii failed to qualify, but surely the only conclusion that you can draw is that he had a bad day.

This, mostly. but also the visa rubbish with Canada means any inconsistency hurts him more than Jan.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: JackAus on June 28, 2014, 03:23:37 pm
Big album from the Mens Qualis from Eddie here:
www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.345672558917522.1073741865.215974475220665&type=1 (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.345672558917522.1073741865.215974475220665&type=1)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10322822_345673512250760_9130933628845504597_n.jpg)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: ducko on June 28, 2014, 05:59:33 pm
What?! Are you lot watching the same comps as me? Dmitrii cruises stuff that the others bust a gut to climb - he just seems to be so much stronger. Jan's super power seems to be big moves and slopey holds - often he skips the normal crux by jumping past it, but on normal moves he doesn't look quite as good Dmitrii. It's been an interesting battle which Jan has won, but I think it's a bit strange to suggest that Dmitrii has had a poor season - I just looked at their results and they've both been in the finals 5 times this year. Jan has 3 golds and Dmitrii has 2.

It is a shame that Dmitrii failed to qualify, but surely the only conclusion that you can draw is that he had a bad day.

Dimitri is an uber beast, just for me jan seems to have been really on it this year, I guess a lot depends on the setting.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Moo on June 28, 2014, 09:40:42 pm
The best thing I learned from this comp was that over-caffeinated sugary drink company made Rustam have a normal haircut for most of the season.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: finbarrr on June 28, 2014, 11:04:12 pm
interview with Rustam just after the final:

http://youtu.be/sd31iiRL5F4?t=2h22m13s (http://youtu.be/sd31iiRL5F4?t=2h22m13s)

he didn't train for two weeks before this comp, and surprised himself
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: jwi on June 29, 2014, 11:03:52 am
How did we all do?

Results:

1   NOGUCHI   Akiyo   JPN   610.00
2   COXSEY   Shauna   GBR   556.00
3   STÖHR   Anna   AUT   488.00
4   WURM   Juliane   GER   430.00

1   HOJER   Jan   GER   558.00
2   SHARAFUTDINOV   Dmitrii   RUS   467.00
3   GLAIRON MONDET   Guillaume   FRA   461.00
4   GELMANOV   Rustam   RUS   337.00


1. Akiyo Noguchi
2. Anna Stöhr.
3. Shauna Coxsey
Outsider: Juliane Wurm


1. Rustam Gelmanov. This will be his year
2. Jan Hojer
3. Guillaume Glairon-Mondet
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: psychomansam on June 29, 2014, 06:55:55 pm
Shauna, first problem, nerves? Just not her day?
Great job on getting the 2nd overall. Next year, even more experience, even more consistency. Gotta be her year  :)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Durbs on June 30, 2014, 11:01:08 am
Shauna, first problem, nerves? Just not her day?
Great job on getting the 2nd overall. Next year, even more experience, even more consistency. Gotta be her year  :)

Looked tricky - a couple of others matched the last hold mostly by touching it, not hanging it - not sure if Shauna was trying to get more established on it, or just could take off that other hand. Gutting though - if she'd held it, that would've been the win. Especially as she'd figured out the static method over the dyno.

Even so, Silver overall is fantastic and she can't really be disappointed with it. Good Finals I thought.

So Anna - complacent after thrashing so thoroughly last year, off the boil, or have Shauna & Akiyo just stepped up massively?
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: slackline on June 30, 2014, 11:33:11 am
Even so, Silver overall is fantastic and she can't really be disappointed with it. Good Finals I thought.

Boulder problems and the crowd were incredible! I am sad about my performance today but I can not be disapointed with the season I've had! (https://twitter.com/shaunacoxsey/status/483015861759143936)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Durbs on June 30, 2014, 11:38:43 am
Exactly.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: r-man on June 30, 2014, 01:06:04 pm
Shauna, first problem, nerves? Just not her day?

Gutting though - if she'd held it, that would've been the win.

Yep, one hand match away from the overall gold!  Didn't Malc have a similar situation years ago?

Still, silver's not shabby. Good comp. Rustam was incredible. Always impressive when he doesn't get stumped by lank moves.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: AlistairB on June 30, 2014, 01:27:55 pm
After a tough season Rustam decided to take inspiration from a higher power:

(http://static.desnivel.com/images/2005/04/27/gaskins_hubble_megagrip.jpg)

Also, I believe Michaela was 11th which is an ace result for a first semi  :strongbench:.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Fiend on June 30, 2014, 03:53:46 pm
Rustam on the first problem, what a masterclass. Syked to watch the rest of it.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: mr__j5 on June 30, 2014, 04:08:42 pm
This is the first year i have paid much attention to these comps. I just read Akiyo has been world champion before - is that right? (Don't tell me to check the IFSC website ... it's unnavigable!)

Maybe World Cup winner before if that is what you mean. She certainly hasn't won the world championships before.
She was overall world cup winner in 2009 & 2010, I can't be bothered to look further back than that.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Muenchener on June 30, 2014, 04:37:41 pm
This is the first year i have paid much attention to these comps.

Me too.

I took my son to watch the World Cup round in Munich two years ago and we both enjoyed it immensely (to my considerable surprise), but I've never paid close attention to the results and overall standings before. Is this year different because the decision fell on the last problem of the last round instead of Anna just automatically winning everything? Because I'm more nationalistic than I previously suspected and there was a British contender? Dunno.  :shrug:

I continue to not give a fart about lead competitions except when Adam is taking part.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: psychomansam on June 30, 2014, 06:06:55 pm
This is the first year i have paid much attention to these comps. I just read Akiyo has been world champion before - is that right? (Don't tell me to check the IFSC website ... it's unnavigable!)

Maybe World Cup winner before if that is what you mean. She certainly hasn't won the world championships before.
She was overall world cup winner in 2009 & 2010, I can't be bothered to look further back than that.

Yes, I think that is what I mean. So are the "world championships" a one-time event?

Yes. Annual
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: psychomansam on June 30, 2014, 06:11:46 pm
Shauna, first problem, nerves? Just not her day?
Great job on getting the 2nd overall. Next year, even more experience, even more consistency. Gotta be her year  :)

Looked tricky - a couple of others matched the last hold mostly by touching it, not hanging it - not sure if Shauna was trying to get more established on it, or just could take off that other hand. Gutting though - if she'd held it, that would've been the win. Especially as she'd figured out the static method over the dyno.

Even so, Silver overall is fantastic and she can't really be disappointed with it. Good Finals I thought.

So Anna - complacent after thrashing so thoroughly last year, off the boil, or have Shauna & Akiyo just stepped up massively?

I suspect if Shauna had gone dynamic (from the first attempt) she would have made it. As it was, she chose static and it was reachy - but I think she could have worked her feet up slightly more and made it work. She looked pretty nervous/stressed on it I thought, and I suspect the mental game was giving her trouble.

As for Anna - I think it's a bit of both.
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Muenchener on June 30, 2014, 07:29:20 pm
Shark grandly giving the women's world cup team a large chunk of UKB's meagre revenues this year!

Good point, well done shark.

I feel my ukb membership fee was well spent on a worthy cause. Wait a mo ...
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: T_B on June 30, 2014, 09:54:53 pm
Just watched the final. Rustam  :bow:  :bow:

Congrats Shauna, looked like a tough set of blocs to keep your head together on  :strongbench:
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Fiend on June 30, 2014, 10:23:41 pm
Just watched the final. Rustam  :bow:  :bow:
:agree: really impressive. He out-janed Jan, so effortless on #1 and #4. Good on him.

Pity about Shauna but great for her overall. 2 golds 2 silvers? I forget. Great to watch anyway. I didn't like the problems (handjam aside!) as much as the other Euro / US / Canada legs, but the actual contest was good.

Really enjoyed this series. Problems / competitiveness / vibes / filming / commentary have been great overall.

Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: GraemeA on July 01, 2014, 04:31:54 pm
Yes. Annual

No every 2 years.

(Arco 2011 and Paris 2012 were due to realigning the Worlds so they didn't clash with the World Games)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: JackAus on July 03, 2014, 11:39:13 am
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw0y7Hp6CYw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw0y7Hp6CYw#ws)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Clart on August 04, 2014, 08:12:53 pm
IFSC Climbing World Cup Imst:

Semi:
IFSC Climbing World Cup Imst 2014 - Lead - Semi-finals - Men/Women (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG9VUYKL4vE#ws)

Full wood:
IFSC Climbing World Cup Imst 2014 - Lead - Finals - Men/Women (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9O-b42eURc#ws)
Title: Re: IFSC 2014 - Predictions & Results
Post by: Clart on September 15, 2014, 08:50:43 pm
IFSC 2014 World Championship, Gijion.

Semi:
IFSC Climbing World Championships Gijón 2014 - Lead - Semi-final - Men/Women (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah0vh4mitKM#ws)

Final:
IFSC Climbing World Championships Gijón 2014 - Lead - Final - Men/Women (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SmAa2CKFU4#ws)
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