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the shizzle => get involved: access, environment, BMC => Topic started by: slackline on October 17, 2012, 01:30:31 pm

Title: [BMC] - Lower-off theft in North Wales
Post by: slackline on October 17, 2012, 01:30:31 pm: Low-lives pilfering lower-offs in North Wales (http://www.thebmc.co.uk/north-wales-loweroff-thefts) :wank:
Title: Re: [BMC] - Lower-off theft in North Wales
Post by: SamT on October 17, 2012, 02:57:49 pm: :shrug:

:wank:
Title: Re: [BMC] - Lower-off theft in North Wales
Post by: Doylo on October 17, 2012, 10:18:49 pm: Hard to comprehend :(
Title: Re: [BMC] - Lower-off theft in North Wales
Post by: petejh on October 17, 2012, 11:22:44 pm: Scrap Metal Prices October 2012:

316 Stainless Steel: £1.40/kg
Alluminium: £0.70/kg
Alluminium Cable with copper.: £0.70/kg
Alu/Copper rads.: £1.80/kg
Brass: £2.60/kg
Braziery Copper: £3.90/kg
Bright Copper Wire: £4.70/kg
Cast Iron/Steel: £0.12/kg
Copper Tanks: £4.15/kg
Foamy Tanks/ lead wash copper: £3.70/kg
Heavy Copper: £4.30/kg
High Grade PVC wire: £2.20+/kg
lead: £1.00/kg
Low Grade Cable: £0.90/kg
Number 2 Copper: £3.30/kg
Phospher Bronze: £3.30/kg
PVC Wire: £1.70/kg
Stainless Steel: £0.85/kg

I was going to suggest it might be a kid supplementing his pocket money but what kid travels between the Slate and Ty Newydd for a couple of tenners. Bizarre.
Title: Re: [BMC] - Lower-off theft in North Wales
Post by: ducko on October 18, 2012, 12:56:25 am: No doubt one of society's fucktards
Title: Re: [BMC] - Lower-off theft in North Wales
Post by: SamT on October 18, 2012, 09:15:54 am: Could it be BMC bolt fund area wars ... DanM turned up at raven tor this weekend with a load of lower offs :-\ :lol:
Title: Re: [BMC] - Lower-off theft in North Wales
Post by: slackline on October 18, 2012, 09:42:18 am: Could it be someone who has a grudge with climbers? Perhaps a landowner who's taking his beef wider than his own area?
Title: Re: [BMC] - Lower-off theft in North Wales
Post by: petejh on October 18, 2012, 01:59:56 pm: If it's for scrap it's barely worth the effort/fuel. If it's a landowner with a grudge what landowner would have so much of a grudge to drive between the Slate, Penmaen Head, and Ty Newydd multiple times (a distance of 50 miles at a guess) just to nick one or two lower-offs. The most likely explanantion to me is it's a climber stealing them for their own use but then where are they using them - we know all the new crags being developed so unless it's outside N.Wales I'd have thought it'd be obvious if gear was being recycled onto new routes?

Whoever's doing it is a timewasting prick and I don't really climb the routes it's happening on, hope they stay away from the ormes, lots of lower-offs there!
Title: Re: [BMC] - Lower-off theft in North Wales
Post by: James Malloch on October 18, 2012, 02:06:27 pm: Is there anyway you could mark some of the lower offs, maybe with indelible ink (or however it's spelt)? Might not deter people but could mean they could be recognised if they pop up elsewhere...
Title: Re: [BMC] - Lower-off theft in North Wales
Post by: SA Chris on October 18, 2012, 02:45:09 pm: Mark them with UV ink, or better yet, microchip them!
Title: Re: [BMC] - Lower-off theft in North Wales
Post by: mrjonathanr on October 18, 2012, 06:29:58 pm: Quote from: James Malloch on October 18, 2012, 02:06:27 pm
Is there anyway you could mark some of the lower offs, maybe with indelible ink (or however it's spelt)?
i-n-k
Title: Re: [BMC] - Lower-off theft in North Wales
Post by: slackline on October 18, 2012, 11:36:59 pm: :lol:
Title: Re: [BMC] - Lower-off theft in North Wales
Post by: SA Chris on October 19, 2012, 07:39:37 am: Otherwise is it worth just stamping or electrically etching any new or existing ones with an identifiable symbol or some lettering referring to location; first letter of route or somesuch.
Title: Re: [BMC] - Lower-off theft in North Wales
Post by: burned on November 06, 2012, 01:20:32 pm: Quote from: slackline on October 18, 2012, 09:42:18 am
Could it be someone who has a grudge with climbers? Perhaps a landowner who's taking his beef wider than his own area?

nah, haha... that means getting out of the car... cant be us mate