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places to visit => abroad => Topic started by: jwi on August 21, 2012, 10:42:14 am

Title: Adršpach
Post by: jwi on August 21, 2012, 10:42:14 am
Allright,  I'm going to Adrspach-Teplice a week in September.  I have climbed a few days in Bielatal (sp?) on the German side of the border so I know a little about what I can expect, although it's clear from the photos I've seen that Adrspach has much less featured rock and that the towers are way taller.

Anyone been there?  Route recommendations? Judging from the photos again, there seems to be some very good cracks all over the place.
(http://img.fotocommunity.com/images/Berg-und-Klettersport/Alpines-Klettern/Adersbach-a25538406.jpg) (http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/display/25538406)
Title: Re: Adršpach
Post by: Fultonius on August 21, 2012, 11:21:07 am
Can;t help you with info, other than to say - that looks bloomin awesome!!
Title: Re: Adršpach
Post by: SA Chris on August 21, 2012, 11:46:17 am
Bolted cracks! not in my day etc.

Agree it does look brilliant, look forward to hearing back.
Title: Re: Adršpach
Post by: T_B on August 21, 2012, 12:24:10 pm
I have been. It's probably the most exciting rock climbing area that I've been to anywhere in the world.

The guidebook is rubbish unless you are a bird flying above the towers.

What we ended up doing is simply walking around and looking at what looked 'doable' and you won't die on (i.e. there are some rings or it's a crack that's not too wide). There is hardly anything easier than British E3 or 5.10b ish.

To really get the most out of the area, it felt like you needed to have a very strong head and be comfortable leading E5 in the UK.

We had an E9 leader with us who didn't lead anything!!

Classic E4? Guillotine
http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=69303 (http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=69303)

E3 ish but all on knotted slings.
http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=69253 (http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=69253)

7c arete at Teplice
http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=69250 (http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=69250)

Emmental 7c
http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=69254 (http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=69254)

Incredible 40m 7c pitch
http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=69252 (http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=69252)

Take lots of 11mm rope to cut up and make knotted slings from. Enjoy!
Title: Re: Adršpach
Post by: SA Chris on August 21, 2012, 12:43:41 pm
Exciting as in inspiring, or exciting as in fucking scary? Or both?
Title: Re: Adršpach
Post by: jwi on August 21, 2012, 12:54:32 pm
 :great:
Thanks! Cool to get some solid recommendations, that's why I keep reading this forum.

I've been climbing on knots in Bielaltal so I think I have an idea how to tie them. Trusting monkey-fists was nigh on impossible though...

I should have added (but it look so boorish written down...) that I'm quite comfortable with running it out on hand-, fist-, and low-angle offwidth-cracks.
Title: Re: Adršpach
Post by: Fultonius on August 21, 2012, 01:25:10 pm
I'm quite comfortable with running it out on hand-, fist-, and low-angle offwidth-cracks.

Clearly not a Brit then!  ;)
Title: Re: Adršpach
Post by: T_B on August 21, 2012, 01:38:55 pm


I should have added (but it look so boorish written down...) that I'm quite comfortable with running it out on hand-, fist-, and low-angle offwidth-cracks.

You are going to be in seventh heaven then. There is an amazing fist crack / offwidth, dead obvious from the main path at Teplice, that has a reasonable number of rings on it too. Looks incredible. Lots of stunning wide features at Teplice come to think of it...
Title: Re: Adršpach
Post by: tomtom on August 21, 2012, 02:43:30 pm
Every time I see pictures of the place it gives me cold sweats....

Looks fantastic, but scares the shit out of me!
Title: Re: Adršpach
Post by: grimer on August 22, 2012, 10:31:40 am
I went there one time with my wife, not climbing. It was over a weekend, the weather was perfect, and never saw anyone climbing.
Title: Re: Adršpach
Post by: SA Chris on August 22, 2012, 10:39:09 am
My main concern about the place is figuring out how to pronounce it.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvi2trP6JK1qb2ab9o1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Adršpach
Post by: andy_e on August 22, 2012, 11:01:36 am
Ard-spack?  Arch-pack? Address-batch?
Title: Re: Adršpach
Post by: SA Chris on August 22, 2012, 11:28:22 am
That's just the half of it.

Tip-lice?
Tep-lish?
Tiplick?
Title: Re: Adršpach
Post by: jwi on August 22, 2012, 11:35:47 am
My main concern about the place is figuring out how to pronounce it.


I'll just call it 'Adersbach' in my most affected german accent. Teplice (ˈtɛplɪtsɛ) is even easier to pronounce: it's called 'Weckelsdorf'
Title: Re: Adršpach
Post by: T_B on August 22, 2012, 02:43:42 pm
We saw a few climbers, though not many. Saw some guys putting up a new route placing rings on lead, which was pretty interesting.

Think it's 'Ard-spack' and 'Tep-leetza'.

Some more photos.

Nic on an 'E4' that Nic sent me up, that I backed off... then he did. Felt more like E6!
http://www.jagged-globe.co.uk/images/dbpage.html?id=6145 (http://www.jagged-globe.co.uk/images/dbpage.html?id=6145)

A rare 'easy' climb
http://www.jagged-globe.co.uk/images/dbpage.html?id=6146 (http://www.jagged-globe.co.uk/images/dbpage.html?id=6146)

One of the first routes you come across at Ardspach. E2?
http://www.jagged-globe.co.uk/images/dbpage.html?id=6149 (http://www.jagged-globe.co.uk/images/dbpage.html?id=6149)

Sport route. 7b? Hidden o'er the back at Teplice.
http://www.jagged-globe.co.uk/images/dbpage.html?id=6150 (http://www.jagged-globe.co.uk/images/dbpage.html?id=6150)

Amazing 7c arete visible from the path at Teplice. Heartbreaking bouldery hugging at the top - v gritstone
http://www.jagged-globe.co.uk/images/dbpage.html?id=6142 (http://www.jagged-globe.co.uk/images/dbpage.html?id=6142)

Brilliant spicy 7b+
http://www.jagged-globe.co.uk/images/dbpage.html?id=6147 (http://www.jagged-globe.co.uk/images/dbpage.html?id=6147)

V cool looking line at Teplice with something fixed in it and a ring to head for! Think there was a ring in the chimney that you break out of at the start.
http://www.jagged-globe.co.uk/images/dbpage.html?id=6144 (http://www.jagged-globe.co.uk/images/dbpage.html?id=6144)

Wide boy action
http://www.jagged-globe.co.uk/images/dbpage.html?id=6148 (http://www.jagged-globe.co.uk/images/dbpage.html?id=6148)

Quite a lot to go at
http://www.jagged-globe.co.uk/images/dbpage.html?id=6151 (http://www.jagged-globe.co.uk/images/dbpage.html?id=6151)
Title: Re: Adršpach
Post by: Danny on August 27, 2012, 11:19:28 am
All of which look amazing. Considering going in October myself. By the way, what's the deal with chalk there? I see it in some of those photos, but though it wasn't allowed? 
Title: Re: Adršpach
Post by: jwi on August 29, 2012, 01:10:41 pm
There are some areas on the Czech side of the border where chalk is tolerated (but on new-ish harder routes) Elbtal and Teplice among them.  In Ardrspach chalk is absolutely forbidden afaik.  The same ban on chalk holds for all areas on the German side of the border.
Title: Re: Adršpach
Post by: Danny on September 07, 2012, 11:30:30 am
Czech out these camming devices:

http://www.czechclimbing.com/clanek.php?key=10426&nazev=ufo_-_soft_webing_friend_device (http://www.czechclimbing.com/clanek.php?key=10426&nazev=ufo_-_soft_webing_friend_device)
Title: Re: Adršpach
Post by: jwi on September 07, 2012, 01:26:24 pm
Damn! Rated to 10 kN...  :o (In what kind of slot, one ask...)

Here is a courageous gear-tester
UFO a Purpurové klouby (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOsM2LIj9ns#ws)
Title: Re: Adršpach
Post by: Danny on September 07, 2012, 05:05:08 pm
Bomber. With this sort of equipment available the area could become a sporty trad destination, like Indian Creek...perhaps.
Title: Re: Adršpach
Post by: jwi on September 22, 2012, 09:28:21 pm
Ok no I have tested the limits of what I am prepared to run out on vertical cracks on unfamiliar stone and is glad to report that I only lost my head on a section of awkward high-foot-low-foot above a nasty landing. I'm sure the route I bailed from (Hlaska) was done in 1967 or whatever...

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8037/8012897375_5d35f82bbd_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiklund/8012897375/)
Combined tactics (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiklund/8012897375/#) by Jonas Wiklund (http://www.flickr.com/people/wiklund/), on Flickr
Me using combined tactics to leave the questionable belay and getting in to the off width on the old route of mayors wife.  It is not clear why I carry slings.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8456/8012903010_2179af7942_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiklund/8012903010/)
sandsten-51 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiklund/8012903010/#) by Jonas Wiklund (http://www.flickr.com/people/wiklund/), on Flickr
Wet, green, fun!

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8454/8012903476_b201f6267c_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiklund/8012903476/)
sandsten-52 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiklund/8012903476/#) by Jonas Wiklund (http://www.flickr.com/people/wiklund/), on Flickr
Up....
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8322/8012898803_e18151210b_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiklund/8012898803/)
sandsten-53 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiklund/8012898803/#) by Jonas Wiklund (http://www.flickr.com/people/wiklund/), on Flickr
....and up.

With team Finland on our heels:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8316/8012893156_57d222da42_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiklund/8012893156/)
sandsten-31 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiklund/8012893156/#) by Jonas Wiklund (http://www.flickr.com/people/wiklund/), on Flickr

To reach the top of Mayor's wife:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8437/8012896867_a41b30691c_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiklund/8012896867/)
Mayor and wife (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiklund/8012896867/#) by Jonas Wiklund (http://www.flickr.com/people/wiklund/), on Flickr


Teplice also got lots of nice cracks like e.g. Převislá
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8309/8012912021_fc4ae7bfb9_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiklund/8012912021/)
Corner crack, Teplice (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiklund/8012912021/#) by Jonas Wiklund (http://www.flickr.com/people/wiklund/), on Flickr

And this crack, which name escapes me at the moment, but it had something to do with whip. Makes sense. Follows a beautiful corner with two rings up to a 40 degree overhanging perfect, but unprotected, handcrack.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8452/8012908945_0725af768b_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiklund/8012908945/)
Otokar climbs Whiplash, Teplice (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiklund/8012908945/#) by Jonas Wiklund (http://www.flickr.com/people/wiklund/), on Flickr

Teplice is of course also famous for its "Sport routes".  I can recommend a shorter one called Matrix, which was good for warming  up the head (always bring slings).

This one is short and super-safe on Martin wall but the name escapes me:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8445/8012920132_00ef4d5b27_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiklund/8012920132/)
sandsten-84 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiklund/8012920132/#) by Jonas Wiklund (http://www.flickr.com/people/wiklund/), on Flickr

Bariera is very good for long sporty routes:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8445/8012914303_c9e33cd3ea_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiklund/8012914303/)
sandsten-82 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiklund/8012914303/#) by Jonas Wiklund (http://www.flickr.com/people/wiklund/), on Flickr

The best "easy" route on Barrier is called "Stroboskop". Mandatory introduction. Very safe with 6 bolts and 4-5 bomber threads in 50 fantastic meters.
Title: Re: Adršpach
Post by: jwi on September 23, 2012, 05:50:38 pm
I found a pic of the whiplash thing (Prásknutí bičem, VIIIb). It is mandatory for crackoholics:

(http://www.piskari.cz/img-cesty/12499047818536_b.jpg)
 (http://www.piskari.cz/foto.php?fid=436)
Photo stolen from : piskari.cz (http://www.piskari.cz/cesta.php?cid=1804)
Title: Re: Adršpach
Post by: jwi on February 19, 2013, 09:39:59 am
Haha! Location scout for fantasy-movies sounds like a great job!
Title: Re: Adršpach
Post by: jwi on March 10, 2016, 06:30:50 pm
OK, since I'm so on top of things, I wrote down a longish trip report in 2013, but never sent it anywhere. Anyway its on my blog now if anyone wants some info about Adrspach/Teplice

http://steepground.blogspot.fr/2016/03/czech-sandstone-meet-2012.html
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