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the shizzle => shootin' the shit => two wheel spiel => Topic started by: lagerstarfish on May 02, 2012, 02:32:51 pm
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didn't know whether this had already been up, but...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxWPdnjk3I8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxWPdnjk3I8#ws)
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:lol:
"have you ever ridden a bike?"
"non"
"it shows"
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:bow:
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so, he's just won a 115 mile section with a sprint finish after having a puncture towards the end... and he's still making me laugh and talking French
:bow:
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That's great ;D
Try and think of some good questions for tomorrow
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Knackered at work today after staying up watching the Dauphine time trial on SBS last night. Awesome ride by Wiggins, looked so composed and relaxed throughout I had to keep reminding myself that he was cruising along at 50kph! At 40.5kms it looked like he'd catch Cadel but even after evading capture it looks like Cadel's race is over.
Cannot wait for le Tour :bounce: :bounce:
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That is funny. He looks on form but the Tour is so full of unknowns. Fingers crossed he realises his potential.
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Wiggins looks on form now (despite his missus telling JensVoigt on twitter that he hasn't peaked yet!).
But...
Cadel hasn't hit top form (and he has shown that he's good over three weeks in France)
Andy S has the same form as this time last year (and he was right up there in the mountains last year)
Nobody really knows how the new version of Wiggins will go over a three-week race.
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Be interesting to see how he copes with the big mountains over the next couple of days. Should get an overall look at how hes performing. If he does well can't see any reason why he can't carry form into the tour- new training methods and all. :-\
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schlecklet will fail, 100km+ of ITT and a couple of DH finishes will be too much to make up, plus I'm pretty sure he's in worse shape than last year.
Will be good to see how wiggo goes over the big hills at the weekend.
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The altitude training he's been doing in Tenerife sounds pretty hardcore.
I find him quite a quite a difficult guy to support because he does say some stupid stuff, but I think he deserves to win this year. He's worked fucking hard and I don't see anyone else in a position of particular superiority.
I was about to link to the amazing John Prolly pics of Tom Boonen partying, but they seem to have disappeared. Hmmm...
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Another box ticked for Wiggins. Seems he's also pretty dominant in the mountains. Roll on July!!
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So, who else has done the PN and CD double?
Anquetil and Merckx, and what other race did they win that year...
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Andy Schlek is out with fractured pelvis.
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poor bastard... been there... sucks...A LOT
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latest episode
http://vimeo.com/45352846# (http://vimeo.com/45352846#)
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:lol: :lol:
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That's awesome. :clap2:
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http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wiggins-delivers-caustic-assessment-of-his-critics (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wiggins-delivers-caustic-assessment-of-his-critics)
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Me thinks well said doesn't quite say it! About time se reporters got put in their place. :spank:
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so, his gonna win it or what???
UKB opinions please???
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We need the first proper mountain stage to see if all that Tenerife training has paid off, and to see what sort of shape cuddles is in. Wiggo's time trialling this year has been excellent, so hopefully today won't be a problem, unless his stupid O-symmetric rings throw his chain again!
With Froome in support I certainly wouldn't bet against him at the moment, although I'd love to see Nibs wheelsuck them up the slopes and then gain a load of time on the decent.
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FD: barring a wet day in the mountains when Nibs goes mental, yes. He was brutal yest in the TT
(http://www.grassyknolltv.com/2012/tour-de-france/09-565-RTR34RPN-640.jpg)
Chris Froome's transformation rings alarm bells with me.
This is funny: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/12346/Armstrongs-federal-court-application-thrown-out-may-be-allowed-re-file-with-substantial-modifications.aspx (http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/12346/Armstrongs-federal-court-application-thrown-out-may-be-allowed-re-file-with-substantial-modifications.aspx)
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Having been enthralled once again by Wiggo's TT performance I am starting to believe
Froome was super strong at the vuelta so it's not like his performance has come from nowhere. I truly hope that he's riding clean as a +ve result for any of the sky boys would take the shine off what I'm hoping will be an emphatic Wiggo victory.
The next few days in the mountains will be interesting, especially if it's wet, as to my eyes Nibs and Cuddles both look like they're going to have to take some serious chances on descents to gain time back. On the climbs so far Wiggo has looked solid and composed not even having to leave his saddle to chase back Cuddles' attacks.
Dunno what I'm going to do tomorrow morning without a stage to watch - bring on Wednesday and come on Wiggo! :bounce:
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It's the power of the side-burn.
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I am starting to believe
He is The One.
He's beginning to believe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75My04BA8es#)
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(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/7/10/1341920670893/Wiggins-in-the-hotel-002.jpg)
Superb.
Great shoulder tat
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/gallery/2012/jul/10/tour-de-france-2012-bradley-wiggins?picture=392871129 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/gallery/2012/jul/10/tour-de-france-2012-bradley-wiggins?picture=392871129)
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unfortunately I can't find a video of this from Wiggins when asked about people who say that anyone in a yellow jersey must be doping
Honestly, they're just f**king w**kers. I cannot be dealing with people like that. It justifies their own bone-idleness because they can't ever imagine applying themselves to anything in their lives. And it's easy for them to sit under a pseudo-name on Twitter and write that sort of s**t rather than get off their arses in their own life and apply themselves, and work hard at something and achieve something. And that's ultimately it... C**ts.
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Thought this was an interesting response by someone on cyclingnews forum about Wiggins' tirade:
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=17734 (http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=17734)
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I reckon Wiggo's remarks have come across in a bad way. I think he felt that people were questioning his "cleanliness" hence his frustrated answer. He's generally very eloquent about the subject even suggesting David Millar should be on the olympic team due to past infringements. Anyway come on Wiggo!
Interesting article in the guardian about how the peloton is slowing down... (no link just look in the sport section)
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Link about how times up Alpe D'Huez have slowed down in recent times. I am not a scientist but the stuff about power output seems fairly convincing:
http://www.sportsscientists.com/2012/07/tour-in-mountains-analysis-discussion.html (http://www.sportsscientists.com/2012/07/tour-in-mountains-analysis-discussion.html)
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I just hope that people are riding clean. It seems with all the testing, Sky's very outspoken anti-doping stance and all the negative publicity (that any doping allegations bring to the already rather tainted sport) that cycling is desperately trying to clean up its act.
If not, and only the people on the inside will know the truth, then as far as I'm concerned the whole thing means nothing to me. Nothing. And as a sport it can quite credibly be written off as a farce.
I'm a massive fan, have been for years, but am becoming more and more jaded by all these allegations. I wan't it so much to be clean. To see blokes battering themselves up some of these monster climbs is a great spectacle. There is no-where to hide, no bulls*itting.
Drugs just wreck the whole thing. Take away the purity of it.
However I'm very suspicious of Froomes meteoric rise. Which is a shame.
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Link about how times up Alpe D'Huez have slowed down in recent times. I am not a scientist but the stuff about power output seems fairly convincing:
http://www.sportsscientists.com/2012/07/tour-in-mountains-analysis-discussion.html (http://www.sportsscientists.com/2012/07/tour-in-mountains-analysis-discussion.html)
Really interesting article.
Chris Froome, when coming second in the 2011 Vuelta TT (47km) rode at 5.8 W/kg for 55 minutes. That's likely to be close to what he and Wiggins produced in the Tour today, and is yet another indication of where the "ceiling" for that duration of effort lies.
So that's what we're all getting at when we say the Tour is getting slower. It is, and it's a good sign, because it brings everything back into the realm of expected physiology.
I am glad to see that having watched the tour since I was a youngster, we may now be seeing a more level playing field where we can reliably trust the performances we are witnessing, as it reinstalls some faith in what is an amazing sporting event. I sincerely hope so anyway....
Hopefully Wiggins will be vindicated for his rant in Paris, with Froome stood alongside him on the podium
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I am glad to see that having watched the tour since I was a youngster, we may now be seeing a more level playing field where we can reliably trust the performances we are witnessing, as it reinstalls some faith in what is an amazing sporting event. I sincerely hope so anyway....
NCB, you have put it more concisely than I. "Reliably trust" is all I can hope for. I used to see Ullrich, Riise and many other as idols. As I struggled up the snake pass on my old peugeot I used to think of them as superhumans. But the reality was they were cheats, charlatans.
I know with the advances in diet and training that performances are going to be improving massively and also it seems that riders from all teams are closer in their performance levels. Lets hope its good.
Wiggo will do well to hold them off till Paris and to be honest I think Froome is the better bet for Sky.
It's still a great race and a fine spectacle.
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I reckon Wiggo's remarks have come across in a bad way. I think he felt that people were questioning his "cleanliness" hence his frustrated answer. He's generally very eloquent about the subject even suggesting David Millar should be on the olympic team due to past infringements. Anyway come on Wiggo!
What has not been widely reported is that all the other journalists in the room applauded Wiggins after his answer....
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Must be a bit bored today but have ended up foloowing a load of links about tour performance. The following one is about Lance Armstrong and his epo positive tests in the 99 tour. Pretty interesting and depressing stuff about a guy I always thought was a legend:
http://nyvelocity.com/content/interviews/2009/michael-ashenden (http://nyvelocity.com/content/interviews/2009/michael-ashenden)
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http://www.itv.com/tourdefrance/stages/stage11/ (http://www.itv.com/tourdefrance/stages/stage11/)
If your able to watch at work. Bit advert heavy I think.
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Chris Froome into second - amazing ride and he could have ridden away from Wiggo in the last few kilometres.
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Chris Froome into second - amazing ride and he could have ridden away from Wiggo in the last few kilometres.
Brilliant stage. Sky answered a few doubters today I think, Froome is a sure fire bet as a future winner of the TDF. Wiggo is going to owe him big time if all goes to plan between now and Paris. Great to see a team working so hard for each other/the greater cause, a lot of which must go down to Brailsford.
Evans looked broken in the last few km's, I think he knew it was today or never, and gave too much too soon.
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"Chriiiiis Chriiiis come baaaaaaaack"
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Superb day. Sky ground the others down... Cadel looked broken.
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Awesome day! Froome has just got more and more to give for the team, unbelievable.
Felt awful for Evans. His face on crossing the line said it all. Nice to see the sportsmanship between Wiggins and Nivali at the end too.
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Awesome stage!
I'll be honest i was slightly nervous when cuddles attacked to catch up to TJ as he looked so strong crossing the gap but it turned out to be too big a move with 60+ kms to go. Getting dropped by an inattentive TJ and then not being able to hang on to the front group must have been horrible for him. The look of pain on his face as he crossed the line knowing that he'd lost another minute + to Wiggo said it all
It's defo Wiggo's to lose now
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Seem L'Equipe is comparing Sky with US postal & their ability to dominate - no doubt this is their way of stating that the team are all doped to the eye balls - with alot of chatter about Chris Froome's rise to fame.
Chris Froome probably could have taken 30 secs out of Bradley and may be even closer if he hadn't punctured in stage one. I think people are forgetting it's a 3 week bike race & given Wiggo's TT ability he's more likely to win the thing. Maybe in a more mountain orientated Tour - Froome must be a possibility to be team leader.
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here are a couple of stupid questions...
in the grand scheme of things how big is wiggins's lead i.e. compared to previous winners etc?
At what stage will be passed the crux and almost home and dry? (barring disasters)
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I think people are forgetting it's a 3 week bike race & given Wiggo's TT ability he's more likely to win the thing. Maybe in a more mountain orientated Tour - Froome must be a possibility to be team leader.
A lot are missing that, although Froome is looking awesome in the hills. The next TT suits Wiggins even more than the last, so he'll gain time again.
Great stuff as always tho innit.
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here are a couple of stupid questions...
in the grand scheme of things how big is wiggins's lead i.e. compared to previous winners etc?
At what stage will be passed the crux and almost home and dry? (barring disasters)
Wiggins lead is pretty hefty at present compared to last year, but it can change enormously day to day in mountains/tt.
the last crux will be the final tt (a week on sat) the sunday is usually a romp around paris, provided there are no big crashes
come on Wiggo, come on Froomey!
(how strong are Eddie the boss, Rogers and Porte ----> Relentless)
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Just one bad day is all it takes.
I think its far from over - there's still the so called "circle of death" in the Pyrenees next Wednesday.
It is great to watch though
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What has impressed me about Sky is how they are so quietly confident and organised. I watched the last 2 hours yesterday, and it was almost like Sky and Wiggins had a pre-determined pace for each climb and stuck to it.. shedding team members as required.. Very impressive. You could see Cadel was fading 1/2 hour from the end - the head and shoulders started to bob as he was putting more and more into it - wheras Wiggins just metronomically pumped away...
Froome-dawg was how one fo the riders referred to him (in a friendly way) in an interview after the last tt..
Its truly inspiring stuff - whatever sport you follow/do.
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Good point on the ITV commentary I thought about how Wiggo timetrials his way in the mountains - whether that's to catch a break or to take out a lead.
In other words he doesn't have that explosive breakaway thing but keeps his rhythm and just gets on with it
(That's a long winded way of saying I agree with you tomtom)
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Almost being treated as a rest day by Sky today, dictating a very slow pace for the peloton with no risk from those upfront. This might lead to an exciting finale as a few of the contenders look to make a break later on....
Really wish I was In France and not work watching this....
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insightful guardian article http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2012/jul/13/bradley-wiggins-dope-drugs (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2012/jul/13/bradley-wiggins-dope-drugs)
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Beaten to posting the link to that article by seconds.... :(
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Excellent article.
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Excellent article.
Ditto, great read.
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It's a bit "jumpers for goalposts" but Christ, you want it all to be true.
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Steve House not impressed (via Twitter):
I agree with @BradWiggins but so obviously not his voice, @teamsky PR dept wrote this #dotheythinkwe'restupid?
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This is getting confusing, i don't know whether to like wiggers or not. And i don't mean goldie looking chain.
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i like him. He sports a proper mod haircut, and he rides his bike really well. And in my opinion he's totally sound.
Doubters... if that Guardian comment piece was written by the Sky PR team, then the Sky PR team need sacking for writing in a shit way. Maybe a cynic could say they wrote it like deliberately.
If anything, I'd say it was a transcription... of course the dude isn't going to pen something like that after a big stage, but he could say it to someone who'd then write it.... Bollocks Steve House.
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Steve House not impressed (via Twitter):
I agree with @BradWiggins but so obviously not his voice, @teamsky PR dept wrote this #dotheythinkwe'restupid?
At least Wiggo didn't write a poem...
I'd say it's a transcription. Of course he didn't fucking write it. I should certainly hope not anyway.
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today's finish was pretty exciting
I thought for a moment that Wiggo was trying to win it for himself
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Good to see him lead it out for EBH, no extra effort really and kept him out of trouble in the run in, shame he couldn't keep it up for another 200m, Eddie may have had a chance then.
OT, but Cav's display today doesn't bode well for the olympics, apparently box hill is a lot tougher than the cat 3 in today's stage.
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apparently box hill is a lot tougher than the cat 3 in today's stage.
Thankfully he doesn't have to ride for sixty hours (including the Alps) the week before he does the Olympic Road race, there's some part of me that thinks this may make a smaaaaaaaall difference...
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A timely warning in the Daily Mash!
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/bradley-wiggins-targeted-by-wile-e-coyote-2012071634368 (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/bradley-wiggins-targeted-by-wile-e-coyote-2012071634368)
(http://www.cartoonspot.net/looney-tunes/images-looney-tunes/wile-coyote-A.jpg)
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A timely warning in the Daily Mash!
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/bradley-wiggins-targeted-by-wile-e-coyote-2012071634368 (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/bradley-wiggins-targeted-by-wile-e-coyote-2012071634368)
Quality:
Stewards have since dismantled a massive magnet at stage 15, as well as discovering a plate of delicious cheeses that was booby-trapped with dynamite.
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So, the next two days are likely to define the outcome of the tour, and should be where any of Wiggins' competitors have surely got to launch an attack...can anyone derail the Sky train?
I expect Froome, Rogers, Porte and Boasson-Hagen will be well pepped to defend any attack
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Does everyone expect Froome to fully obey team orders? Be interesting to see if anyone can break wiggo on an ascent. Personally can't see it this year.
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Does everyone expect Froome to fully obey team orders? Be interesting to see if anyone can break wiggo on an ascent. Personally can't see it this year.
Nil chance of him straying from the Sky strategy, if he wants a chance to win the Tour in the future, he needs to stay at Sky and keep them happy, what goes around comes around and his time will come.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/18877975 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/18877975)
That's not to say he couldn't indeed break Wiggins over the next two days...
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Didn't think Froome would attack again like he did last week due "misunderstood communication" but do wonder if he'll push that little bit harder but just within the limits of team orders, firstly to see if he can break wiggo but also to make a statement of obviously having to hold his pace/slow down - as a kind of shop window for being a future team no 1 GC rider.
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but do wonder if he'll push that little bit harder but just within the limits of team orders, firstly to see if he can break wiggo
he'd be a fucking idiot if he did that.
they'll only change the strategy if Wiggins explodes and GC is in danger. should be an interesting day anyway, i wonder if the italians will be better than us?
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Didn't think Froome would attack again like he did last week due "misunderstood communication" but do wonder if he'll push that little bit harder but just within the limits of team orders, firstly to see if he can break wiggo but also to make a statement of obviously having to hold his pace/slow down - as a kind of shop window for being a future team no 1 GC rider.
Well I think any doubters of Wiggins may well be piping down after today. Great effort to keep responding to Nibali's attacks, with or without Froome he just kept reeling him back in!
Fantastic ride from Voeckler, first over all four summits to take the win and the Polka dot jersey! Tres bien!
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Did anyone see Wiggins out of the saddle for more than an instant? Top man.
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Did anyone see Wiggins out of the saddle for more than an instant? Top man.
using a Shimano XT MTB cassette apparently, coz he doesn't like getting out of the saddle
http://bicycling.com/blogs/thisjustin/2012/07/16/tour-tech-wiggos-di2-derailleur-hack/ (http://bicycling.com/blogs/thisjustin/2012/07/16/tour-tech-wiggos-di2-derailleur-hack/)
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Did anyone see Wiggins out of the saddle for more than an instant? Top man.
using a Shimano XT MTB cassette apparently, coz he doesn't like getting out of the saddle
http://bicycling.com/blogs/thisjustin/2012/07/16/tour-tech-wiggos-di2-derailleur-hack/ (http://bicycling.com/blogs/thisjustin/2012/07/16/tour-tech-wiggos-di2-derailleur-hack/)
Yeah, saw that. Having same dilemma with my own set up at the minute as changing the cassette from 11-26 means changing dérailleur and chain as well, unless anyone knows of a replacement cage (medium or long) which will fit a 2012 Sram Red rear dérailleur??
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XT.. Nothing better.
Fatkid2000 amd I just costed getting to see Cav send it in Paris and scream like girls for brad on the podium...
Looks like a BBQ at mine during the time trial... Euro star are so.... Cashing in . Twats.
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I'm going to Font sat and thinking about catching the train up on Sunday to see the last day. Where would be a good place to catch it - presume anywhere around the Arc de Triomphe is just going to be stupidly packed?
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Do it! I bet even just being around the crowds and picking up on the buzz is worth it...
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Eurostar have doubled there prices.
The pct wankers will continue to send me moaning emails about watching le tour, but it'll be on in my place of work. I never thought I'd see a Brit with a chance of winning.
Contador used mtb cassettes in the past. High cadence is the way in my book, rather than cranking it out.
Andy - you'll need to be there early.
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Ye, get in with the crowds I'm afraid. Hope t see u on the TV mate.
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this evening I found out what 400W output feels like (on a static bike) :'(
they were pushing out somewhat more than this for quite a lot of minutes today :bow:
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Big day today.
Mr Twiggo and FroomeFroome need to hold it together for 142km:
(http://www.letour.fr/PHOTOS/TDF/2012/1700/PROFIL.jpg)
Last-ditch massive attacks from Spaghetti Man Mr Nibbles, Cuddles and VDB?
(yes, I have been reading TweeterSagan)
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Surely a winning strategy by virtue of the reduced friction with only one tyre in contact :clown:
"Al limite dell'equilibrio". (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_6lSLuwU6Q#)
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Did anyone see Wiggins out of the saddle for more than an instant? Top man.
using a Shimano XT MTB cassette apparently, coz he doesn't like getting out of the saddle
http://bicycling.com/blogs/thisjustin/2012/07/16/tour-tech-wiggos-di2-derailleur-hack/ (http://bicycling.com/blogs/thisjustin/2012/07/16/tour-tech-wiggos-di2-derailleur-hack/)
Yeah, saw that. Having same dilemma with my own set up at the minute as changing the cassette from 11-26 means changing dérailleur and chain as well, unless anyone knows of a replacement cage (medium or long) which will fit a 2012 Sram Red rear dérailleur??
My wife runs an MTB rear mech. Cant remember what it is off hand but it enables her to get up all the stuff round the peak without having the indignity if running a triple.
That sounds really bad.
My wife runs an MTB rear mech. Cant remember what it is off hand but as her riding style is more of the "diesel engine" than "punchy turbo" it suits her down to the ground.
Better.
I will let you know what it is when I get home, but I think most will fit.
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Yeah, saw that. Having same dilemma with my own set up at the minute as changing the cassette from 11-26 means changing dérailleur and chain as well, unless anyone knows of a replacement cage (medium or long) which will fit a 2012 Sram Red rear dérailleur??
As far as I know it's possible to get away with short cage + mtb cassette provided you are very very strict with avoiding dodgy front/back combinations, i.e. don't shift to bigger than half way on the big ring or to a less dangerous but more retarded-looking extent, smaller than half way on the small ring. If you get it wrong then the consequences can be of the completely horrendous, everything stops, explodes, and you inevitably end up tits-over-arse type stuff.
I don't know how true/practical that actually is. It is dependent on cassette size so for example moving up to a 12-28 is obviously less dodgy than sticking a 12-36 on the back.
Are you running a compact? What size cassette are you thinking of changing to? 26 is already a pretty big road cassette. You can get long cage apex rear mechs (that's what Contador was using, alongside a 11-32(?) cassette on a compact chainset in the hills a couple of years back) and as of this season (or possibly next) sram have made longer derailers in rival and red too.
Will presumably still need a bigger chain.
I ride a triple
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Yeah, saw that. Having same dilemma with my own set up at the minute as changing the cassette from 11-26 means changing dérailleur and chain as well, unless anyone knows of a replacement cage (medium or long) which will fit a 2012 Sram Red rear dérailleur??
Cheers, very useful to hear others thoughts on this.
As far as I know it's possible to get away with short cage + mtb cassette provided you are very very strict with avoiding dodgy front/back combinations, i.e. don't shift to bigger than half way on the big ring or to a less dangerous but more retarded-looking extent, smaller than half way on the small ring. If you get it wrong then the consequences can be of the completely horrendous, everything stops, explodes, and you inevitably end up tits-over-arse type stuff.
I don't know how true/practical that actually is. It is dependent on cassette size so for example moving up to a 12-28 is obviously less dodgy than sticking a 12-36 on the back.
Are you running a compact? What size cassette are you thinking of changing to? 26 is already a pretty big road cassette. You can get long cage apex rear mechs (that's what Contador was using, alongside a 11-32(?) cassette on a compact chainset in the hills a couple of years back) and as of this season (or possibly next) sram have made longer derailers in rival and red too.
Will presumably still need a bigger chain.
I ride a triple
Not sure it is possible, as you end up with ridiculous tension (low or high) through the dérailleur when in either extreme of the range on the cassette, especially as a longer chain is required in any case. The intention is to go to 11-32, I am currently running 53-39 on the front, so the option of going to a compact is also a possibility. You are right in saying that SRAM now produce a new medium length red dérailleur, however these are the best part of £300. Eek.
The SRAM rival option is the most feasible at the minute, as at £120 for a climber kit (dérailleur/chain/11-32 cassette) it makes most sense money wise...especially as its only likely to be a temporary set up for some short term goals. Likely to couple it with a replacement 36 tooth chain ring too which should give me plenty of range, to maintain some relatively high cadence. £140 is certainly less than £350 plus...
I was hoping there was a replacement cage which would feet the SRAM Red which would remove the need to swap dérailleurs...oh well
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Would it be possible to buy the long cage parts and change your own derailleur? I found this spare parts catalogue http://www.sram.com/sites/default/files/techdocs/2012_sram_extdt_wheel_hub_spc_rev_a.pdf (http://www.sram.com/sites/default/files/techdocs/2012_sram_extdt_wheel_hub_spc_rev_a.pdf) which would let you know which serial number parts you needed, could perhaps order from LBS?
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Would it be possible to buy the long cage parts and change your own derailleur? I found this spare parts catalogue http://www.sram.com/sites/default/files/techdocs/2012_sram_extdt_wheel_hub_spc_rev_a.pdf (http://www.sram.com/sites/default/files/techdocs/2012_sram_extdt_wheel_hub_spc_rev_a.pdf) which would let you know which serial number parts you needed, could perhaps order from LBS?
That's what I was hoping may be the case, unfortunately they have only just started making the medium length Red, so would have to be a spare part from the 2012-2013 medium length mech, so not in that catalogue you linked unfortunately. Although I guess a Rival rear mech cage may fit...?
Mmm, so many uncertainties...
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Is it safe to say that wiggins deserves to be in the yellow jersey now?
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Is it safe to say that wiggins deserves to be in the yellow jersey now?
Even Brailsford conceded it was all but sewn up today, only a crash or major mechanical issue could scupper him now. Wiggins' reaction as he crossed the line said it all...
Expect the Sky train to go all out to lead out the Manx Missile tomorrow and let him hopefully cap a fantastic finale of British Domination in this years tour! Wish I was going to be there!
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I got really lucky in 2002 having booked a weekend away for the Mrs' 30th and used all my Marriott points on a suite at the Hilton on the Élysées booked about six months in advance. By coincidence it was on the final day of the tour and we had a balcony overlooking the finish and the UPS team were all staying in the hotel.
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Incredible show of might from Wiggins today. He really did blow the rest of them away. Post race interview with ITV4 he was starting to get a bit emotional, I guess it's sinking in. His run of wins this year is quite phenomenal. He's just got to keep his shit together for another couple of weeks to help Cav next Sat and for the jubilympics TT.
And when he led out Cav yesterday...... well that was special.
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Bloody hell. He's only gone qnd done it.
What a day for British cycling : first Brit to win the tour, Cav continues to own the Champs Elysee, and becomes the most successful sprinter in the TdF, surpassing Darrigade (and Armstrong), and I get back alive from a 150km mtb epic.
Poor buggers can't celebrate properly until after next sunday though, and if Cav doesn't win it'll be a pretty shit party.
Good potted bio of Wiggins on the Inner Ring : http://inrng.com/2012/07/bradley-wiggins-photo-career/ (http://inrng.com/2012/07/bradley-wiggins-photo-career/)
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What a fantastic day for cycling, British Cycling, Team Sky, Cav, Froome and not least, Bradley Wiggins!!
Amazing lead out from Wiggins and Boasson-Hagen to release Cav, who probably surprised even Edvald by going so early.
A crowning of a great champion in Wiggins, forever humble and grounded in his acceptance
Very jealous of anyone who managed to get to Paris to witness it, marred only by what was truly the worst rendition of the national anthem ever, by Leslie Garrett! Brad's face says it all!...
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7l0d2Zc8o1qz6qr3o1_500.jpg)
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The whole thing is incredible.
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Just to sum up the thoughts of the [cycling] nation...
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8292/7631793632_c70c416ed5_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/83286828@N05/7631793632/)
not forgetting....
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8147/7631795380_f0473d0ec9_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/83286828@N05/7631795380/)
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:lol:
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The whole thing is incredible.
Most definitely. I never thought in a million years that we would have a British cyclist win the tour. It feels like a sea change in the sport. No doping, no dodgy individual breakaways, team effort and sports science applied in spades. An amazing effort.
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marred only by what was truly the worst rendition of the national anthem ever, by Leslie Garrett!
that really was awful
made worse by her waving her Union Jack skirt about to add emphasis
I do hope she won't be doing a repeat performance at the Jubilympics ever again
The lad who sits next to me at work (@martinbob79) is a Team Sky (and Paul Smith) fanatic. He even got hold of some Sky Pro Cycling skin transfers. He bought a pair of the limited edition Cavendish socks. He's been watching Le Tour live on his iFern whenever possible (which I have also enjoyed). The poor chap is currently injured and bikeless due to some driver not looking. He has been living his life through Wiggins and Cav. I wish I'd been round his house to see him watching the last stage
Anyway, his compo looks like being enough to get him a kilo of Chinese carbon and some electronic gears.
If the Olympics go well, we'll be living off his CYCHE! for weeks
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nice little interview from 18 months ago on 6 music
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00wfv44 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00wfv44)
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Get the fuck in
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Get the fuck in
What a fantastic achievement! Knighthood and SPOTY to follow....
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Get the fuck in
+1
Superb.
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Nice afternoons work from our boys, lets not forget Froome. :great: :punk: :2thumbsup: :beer2:
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Amazing stuff. First Tour winner to win gold the same year. Greatest ever GB Olympian. Have they closed the book on SPOTY yet?
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I was running a group session at the time so missed the end of the event, but a helpful nurse popped in to let us know the good news
a pleasant interuption
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Amazing stuff. First Tour winner to win gold the same year. Greatest ever GB Olympian. Have they closed the book on SPOTY yet?
If it's not him, there's no justice.
I also found out today he has the same birthday as me. And therefore clm (where is clm anyway).
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And therefore clm (where is clm anyway).
He was in London for the end of the TT yesterday... #jealous
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He was great in the interview with Linekar last night, comes across really well :clap2:
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Yeah, his even handed comments regarding safety after the unfortunate fatality by the Olympic Park are just the sort of talk that might help change attitudes amongst Mondeo man and white van man. The man is a dude.
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. The man is a dude.
He was tweeting some genius shots of them out on the piss at 2am this morning...
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Yeah, his even handed comments regarding safety after the unfortunate fatality by the Olympic Park are just the sort of talk that might help change attitudes amongst Mondeo man and white van man. The man is a dude.
I've not seen the interview, but his support of compulsory helmet law that's being reported on the BBC is just knee jerk idiotic. Quite apart from the highly questionable ability of helmets to lessen yr chances of death (really think having a lid on will make the slightest difference when a juggernaut turns left onto you?), it's well known that the best way to increase safety of cyclists is to increase the number of cyclists - guess what's one of the most effective ways to reduce the number of cyclists?? that's right, introduce helmet law.
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Having seen his interview - I think his main point was that wearing helmets, stopping people listening to ipods etc. while riding and making decent lights compulsory (he mentioned all these) - took away the excuses people make for why cyclists may be responsible/partly responsible for what happens to them in accidents etc..
Personally, I think its deep seated, and I think the only thing that will change attitudes is economics. Change the law so its always the motorists fault if there is a collision (like the NL).
I started riding to work last year. But have stopped (I now walk) after a couple of rage/near miss incidents. My commute was piss - 80% bike lanes, one roundabout 2 traffic lights... but a incidents put me off. I guess I'm just not thick skinned enough.. Shame really.
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Fair enough.. But normal iPod ear buds and a will to exercise is my personal stance.... I always wear a helmet.. Hard to decide for all...
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(really think having a lid on will make the slightest difference when a juggernaut turns left onto you?),
Yes. It will increase your chance of not having a permanent head injury if you pull through. Several times a year I have the pleasure of seeing cyclists in Sheffield in the Royal Hallamshire. There are exceptions, but most of the ones with brain contusions and questionable neurological prognoses weren't wearing a helmet.
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There's various view on the wearing of helmets.
One study found drivers get closer to you if you're wearing one & hence more likely to knock you off. Also a lot of major collision injuries are intra-abdominal or major pelvic injury - which cause death rather than head injuries.
My view having ridden for past 10 years or so & regularly commute. If a helmet may help then wear it. I've hit my head on a kerb - helmet cracked but my head was fine.
Having ridden in France where the cyclist is king of the road - drivers in the UK could do with taking a similar approach. Yes some cyclist take the piss - but on some junctions its often safer to run a red light rather than pull off sat next to some massive lorry.
Another thing that would help would be better road surfaces - Sheffield roads are appalling and you have to use alot of road to prevent your wheel disappearing down some huge pot hole.
Personally I don't know how people ride with ear phones in I can't - they fall out. I can understand fatdoc's view - but its still a bit stupid.
I hope that with the UKs success in cycling the average driver is a bit more considerate, however once the olympics is over the tossers driving buses will be back to there normal ways I fear,
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Friend of mine JL in Australia flipped over the bonnet of a car that pulled out on him two weeks ago, he landed back of the head against the kerb :-/ the main impact hit the base of his helmet and he ended up with 25 stitches on the base of his skull/back of head. A lucky man (apart from being twokked off by some halfwit).. and +1 for the Helmet.
When I do pull my finger out and ride it feels wrong without a helmet now..
I have dubious beleifs in the helmets make people drive closer to you - or helmets make you ride worse attitudes.. I think now they are so much the norm rather than the exception that people will not differentiate...
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I have no problem with helmets, I have a problem with helmet law If it makes you feel safer, wear one. I own and use one, though not all the time. I'm all for anything that gets more people cycling, the issue is that Wiggins comments (and it sounds like they were mostly sensible) were basically reported as "wiggins supports mandatory helmets" all three links I noticed to the story were titled along those lines; and the main effect of such legislation would be to reduce the number of cyclists on the road, which starts a cycle of negative feedback - less cyclists, motorists less used to their presence, less likely to look out for them, more accidents, more perception of danger from prospective cyclists who are then less likely to cycle etc etc.
I think his points about lights (particularly)and ear phones are good ones, when driving through Bristol at dusk I'm often shocked by how hard to see an unlit cyclist is, and decent LEDs are tiny and dirt cheap these days. Also both these points are about reducing the chances of accidents, a much better approach than pushing the responsibility onto the cyclist for the results of accidents, as a helmet law would.
Oh and cycling helmets are DESIGNED to fail catastrophically in a crash, it's how they absorb impact, and they will do so at impact forces well below those which would cause serious head injuries. This is not to say that the reduction in impact forces obtained by a helmet in some crashes won't reduce the chances of injury, but people often equate the state of their helmet post impact with the assumed consequences of not wearing one.
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Interesting discussion. Personally the main issue I see with road cycle safety is the increase width of the average car with no increase in road width. This results is less 'safe' space to over take cyclists. Rather than force cyclist to wear helmets lets force car manufactures to make smaller cars = extra lane on motor ways, more parking. I know it's never going to happen. There's some statistic somewhere about 4x4 ( :shit:) along the lines that for every occupant they save another road user dies (pedestrian/ cyclist/ other vehicle drive (non-aligned chassis crumple zones)).
On the otherside of the fence I used to be a right little shit on a bike, riding around in the dark with no lights, carving cars up etc., not proud, fortunately I didn't ruin anyones life by causing them to crash into me.
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Rather than force cyclist to wear helmets lets force car manufactures to make smaller cars = extra lane on motor ways, more parking. I know it's never going to happen. There's some statistic somewhere about 4x4 ( :shit:) along the lines that for every occupant they save another road user dies (pedestrian/ cyclist/ other vehicle drive (non-aligned chassis crumple zones)).
It's a bit off topic, but the width of cars is ridiculous now - it's almost impossible to use multi-storey carparks because of the number of cars occupying 1.5 bays. And re 4x4s the last stats I saw, suggested that most SUVs style cars were dangerous for the occupants too. They used to all do very poorly in the European NCAP tests and were prone to rolling over. Partly due to being top-heavy and equipped with pseudo-off-roading tyres that were no ideal for the roads they spend 99% of their time on.
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All the arguments against wearing helmets could be applied to any safety device that causes a minor inconvenience to the user; car seatbelts, climbing helmets etc. Imagine if you get into a car and your mate refused to wear a seatbelt cos he thought it was less safe because it would cause him to drive in a cavalier fashion, and would entice other drivers to crash into him? You'd phone for the straitjacket.
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I think it is an interesting argument. A friend once hypothesised that if there was a large sharp spike protruding from the centre of every steering wheel nobody would drive recklessly?
Also it has been proven that pedestrian deaths decrease if there is no delineated pavement? No references sorry.
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Also it has been proven that pedestrian deaths decrease if there is no delineated pavement? No references sorry.
thats Drachten in Holland - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drachten (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drachten)
I distinctly remember going to thailand with tales of crazy driving in my head, then after an hour or so on the road in the back of a tuctuc suddenly having an epiphany... its not that there are no rules..or indeed lots or rules that everyone ignores. .... There's ONE rule that everyone adheres to......"Do what you want, go where you want, JUST DONT HIT ANYTHING".... simples. It seems to work.
Here there are so many millions of road rules and protocols that the moment someone gets one wrong - carnage.
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All the arguments against wearing helmets could be applied to any safety device that causes a minor inconvenience to the user; car seatbelts, climbing helmets etc. Imagine if you get into a car and your mate refused to wear a seatbelt cos he thought it was less safe because it would cause him to drive in a cavalier fashion, and would entice other drivers to crash into him? You'd phone for the straitjacket.
No they can't. Safety belt law did not reduce car traffic on the roads, as helmet laws have been shown to do for cycle traffic. Furthermore less cars on the roads make it safer for other road users, including motorists. Less cyclists on the roads make it more dangerous for the remaining cyclists, which discourages people further from cycling. Once again, I've nothing against helmets, I'm not arguing against wearing them, it is Helmet law that is a stupid idea.
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bringing the topic back to the original subject, just back from holiday, here are a couple of my photos from rue du rivoli about 700m from the finish.
chasing Voigt about lap 4
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7128/7710493194_4f39cd9d8a_z.jpg)
leading out Cav on the final lap
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8154/7710505248_f6f53aa679_z.jpg)
what an amazing day!!!
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Another quality comeback from Wiggo:
Piers Morgan @ Bradley Wiggins "I was very disappointed @bradwiggins didn't sing the anthem either. Show some respect to our monarch. Please!
Bradley Wiggins @ Piers Morgan " @Piersmorgan I was disappointed when you didn't go to jail for insider dealing or phone hacking. But you know, each to their own!
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:lol: :clap2:
Top pics Fj, jealous!
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I retract my last. Apparently it wasn't Wiggo, he was only tagged in it. Still, quality response.
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Another quality comeback from Wiggo:
Piers Morgan @ Bradley Wiggins "I was very disappointed @bradwiggins didn't sing the anthem either. Show some respect to our monarch. Please!
Bradley Wiggins @ Piers Morgan " @Piersmorgan I was disappointed when you didn't go to jail for insider dealing or phone hacking. But you know, each to their own!
That is brilliant.
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unfortunately its fake.
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Full marks Bond.
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Wiggo has just been crowned SPOTY! :bow: :dance1:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/sports-personality/20742240 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/sports-personality/20742240)
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With ~30% of the 1.6m votes.
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Good on him. I voted for him solely because he called Sue Barker Susan the whole way through, like a naughty school boy :)
It was interesting that he acknowledged alot of people, but not Chris Froome (though he missed out lots of others too..) which surprised me seeing as he shirley did loads of the shovel work for Wiggo...
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Saw a tweet today that was interesting, say that TeamGB took the team award despite it specifically saying in the SPOTY rules that teamGB isn't eligible for it.
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It was interesting that he acknowledged alot of people, but not Chris Froome (though he missed out lots of others too..) which surprised me seeing as he shirley did loads of the shovel work for Wiggo...
The camera alighted on Froome at this point and his expression was not one of companionable friendship.
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It was interesting that he acknowledged alot of people, but not Chris Froome (though he missed out lots of others too..) which surprised me seeing as he shirley did loads of the shovel work for Wiggo...
The camera alighted on Froome at this point and his expression was not one of companionable friendship.
Indeed, very tacitly put... :)
(he could have been busting for a piss at that point though..)
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Pretty sure he mentioned Froome in his first interview with Susan, along with all the coaches, physios, team members, etc. But pointedly in a kind of way that made it clear that his role was one of the support crew.
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Saw a tweet today that was interesting, say that TeamGB took the team award despite it specifically saying in the SPOTY rules that teamGB isn't eligible for it.
Think there is a clause that allows this to be overruled when the panel is unanimous
Team GB and Paralympics GB won the accolade of team of the year in a surprise move by the 12-person judging panel, which decided to overrule the BBC's terms stating the award would be "for the team in an individual sport or sporting discipline that has achieved the most notable performance". However, the BBC's guidelines did stipulate that the criteria could be amended "should there be unanimous agreement amongst panel members".
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That's Entertainment. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/sports-personality/20767828) :clap2:
Also, its interesting that Froome has come out and said that hes been promised the leadership whereas both Wiggins and Brailsford have said let the legs do the talking. Bring on the Giro!
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Also, its interesting that Froome has come out and said that hes been promised the leadership whereas both Wiggins and Brailsford have said let the legs do the talking. Bring on the Giro!
It must be hard for Wiggins to choose not to defend his title, but unless Froome is out of shape, he's the Sky rider for that course next year. We'll see soon enough I guess. Though could they pick him in the team at all if he's not leader...? It's a little like Hinault/Lemond 1986.
It could all be irrelevant if Contador is on form.
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Also, its interesting that Froome has come out and said that hes been promised the leadership whereas both Wiggins and Brailsford have said let the legs do the talking. Bring on the Giro!
It must be hard for Wiggins to choose not to defend his title, but unless Froome is out of shape, he's the Sky rider for that course next year. We'll see soon enough I guess. Though could they pick him in the team at all if he's not leader...? It's a little like Hinault/Lemond 1986.
It could all be irrelevant if Contador is on form.
Or is recieving his personal meat supplies.
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Contador will win - Froome can't accelerate up hill like the cheating Spaniard.
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I'd be completely gutted if Contador won. I love the aggressive riding but the guys a remorseless juicer. I think its right to let the legs do the talking and, having seen Froome struggle in the Vuelta (admittedly after going round the Tour) against Contador, Rodriguez, and Valverde I do wonder whether he's got what it takes to lead a team to GC victory. Wiggins has proved he has a cool head, can wheelsuck like a champ, and can control a race incredibly well.
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(admittedly after going round the Tour)
This is rather a key element you're slightly glossing over, he didn't 'go round the tour', he came second after busting himself for Wiggins!
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Hmmm, OK, I'll concede that!
Back on topic. Le show de rock de Bradley Wiggins
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/sports-personality/20767828 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/sports-personality/20767828)
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Good documentary on Sky Atlantic at the moment.
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If Albuterol Clentador gets a podium finish in anything during 2013, I'll be writing a very strong letter to The Times and my local MP.
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Paul Weller & Bradley Wiggins "That's Entertainment" 'Crisis Gig' - Hammersmith Apollo 19.12.12 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FytJLbc5_pU#ws)
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In continuation of the Bradley Wiggins show - Giro d'Italia starts today (In fact it's live on Eurosport now)
Best live stream I've found so far for Eurosport is http://www.time4tv.com/2011/09/british-eurosport.html (http://www.time4tv.com/2011/09/british-eurosport.html) however, there are still a few annoying ads to click through before the stream starts. If any one knows of a better stream with less ads, do let me know.
Stage highlights at 10.30pm this eve.
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http://www.teamsky.com/article/0,27290,17553_8744262,00.html (http://www.teamsky.com/article/0,27290,17553_8744262,00.html)
Sir Bradley is out of the Tour :thumbsdown:
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:( Bad times, seems it's definitely going to Froome as the team leader.
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Makes a Froome win more likely.
Brad's year was last year & I doubt he'll win another GC. He's a great rider but I have my doubts. Hopefully I'm wrong.
This takes the issues around who's the leader out.
Froome climbs better and maybe be able to accelerate like the cheating Spaniard.
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Correct decision from Sky and will benefit the team and Froome to have everyone behind one GC leader. Froome has the bit between his teeth and something to prove, the tour is his stage and time to shine this year.
Regardless of who was going to be leader, and whether Froome and Wiggins would both be in the TDF team, this years TDF will no doubt be more exciting than last year as teams learn to deal with Skys tactics to control stage races...
Froome, Contador and Nibail battle...can't bloody wait.
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It'll also be interesting to see froome off the leash on a more mountainous tour.