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Title: GriGri2 recall
Post by: shark on June 20, 2011, 03:29:46 pm
On Rockclimbing.com: (http://www.rockclimbing.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2509041)

If you possess a GRIGRI 2 (D14 2O, D14 2G, D14 2B) with the first five digits of the serial number between 10326 and 11136  to contact by email your local Petzl distributor with your complete postal address in order to initiate an exchange.

Petzl has discovered that exerting excessive force on the fully extended handle of the GRIGRI 2 can cause internal damage, such that the GRIGRI 2 handle may become stuck in the open position.


The link on the Petzl site is  here  (http://www.petzl.com/us/outdoor/us/recall-replacement-grigri2?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=@petzl&utm_campaign=recall-grigri2&utm_content=us).
Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: shark on June 20, 2011, 04:57:48 pm
UK Contact is Lyon Equipment email: grigri2@lyon.co.uk 
Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: 205Chris on June 20, 2011, 05:05:24 pm
Good knowledge - Thanks Shark.

A quick look on their website suggests that even if the Gri-gri 2 does fail and become stuck open it will still function like a normal belay plate.

Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: Paul B on June 20, 2011, 06:24:55 pm
...which'll do f*ck all for most people who don't use it as such anyway  :worms:
Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: BenF on June 20, 2011, 06:58:56 pm
Thanks Shark, just checked the one I bought recently and I need to send it back. Which is a bit annoying but c'est la vie.
Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: SA Chris on June 20, 2011, 07:21:02 pm
Relatively speaking slightly less annoying than dying though. C'est la mort?
Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: 205Chris on June 20, 2011, 07:57:28 pm
...which'll do f*ck all for most people who don't use it as such anyway  :worms:

Indeed. Still, it gives Petzl a nice get out in the event of an accident as they'll just point to the manufacturer's instructions that come with a Gri-Gri that say never to let go of the controlling rope when belaying.
Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: Moo on June 20, 2011, 09:13:26 pm
I don't know if that's a get out clause as opposed to just instructions for proper use similar to a parachute cord for instance
Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: BenF on June 21, 2011, 07:43:40 am
Relatively speaking slightly less annoying than dying though. C'est la mort?

I have no idea Chris, I've not died yet so cannot possibly comment.  It may turn out that I'm utterly misguided, there is a heaven after all and it's really good fun.  Therefore the dying bit may not actually be annoying, but the sending my gri-gri back will be.  Slightly.

However, on the balance of things I still don't believe in God, despite the best efforts of Petzl to persuade me otherwise...
Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: slackline on June 21, 2011, 08:19:00 am
You want to hope they turn them round faster than DMM have with the Dragon 6's, my mate has been waiting at least six months for his to be returned and is understandably getting a little pissed off.
Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: SA Chris on June 21, 2011, 08:58:07 am
Relatively speaking slightly less annoying than dying though. C'est la mort?

I have no idea Chris, I've not died yet so cannot possibly comment.  It may turn out that I'm utterly misguided, there is a heaven after all and it's really good fun. 

Why don't you just take your chances then? Do you feel lucky punk? I've been told authoritatively that Heaven is a Halfpipe, which would be good fun. If you were a skakeboarder. Or BMXer. Or inline skater for that matter.
Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: BenF on June 21, 2011, 09:29:14 am
I've been told authoritatively that Heaven is a Halfpipe

Back in the 80's I heard that true heaven is a place on Earth...

Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: SA Chris on June 21, 2011, 09:56:11 am
Well you know what that's worth.

(and I thought it was ooooo heaven is a place on earth?)
Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: BenF on June 21, 2011, 10:15:18 am
I thought it was ooooo heaven is a place on earth?

Indeed it is.  I didn't know that and had to google it though, so I am marginally less sad than you...
Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: slackline on June 21, 2011, 10:27:28 am
Should have just stuck Oribtals "Halcyon" on and listened to that.
Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: BenF on June 21, 2011, 10:36:58 am
Should have just stuck Oribtals "Halcyon" on and listened to that.

I wish my sister had been in to Orbital when I was growing up, then maybe I wouldn't have been subjected to the "music" of Belinda Carlisle.
Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: Grubes on June 24, 2011, 10:01:41 am
Had Halcyon (and on) on in the car on the way to work love it.

Any way sent my Gri Gri back tuesday first class post got my new one back today. Great turn around.
Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: mrjonathanr on June 24, 2011, 04:14:55 pm
Has anyone used aTrango cinch (http://www.cragxclimbing.com/index.php?p=product&products_id=4027&cid=3) ?
I borrowed one recently and was well impressed.
Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: Paul B on June 25, 2011, 11:33:24 am
I've got one and its for sale...
Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: mrjonathanr on June 26, 2011, 08:29:47 am
What's your take on them Paul?
Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: butterworthtom on June 26, 2011, 09:16:13 am
I am in Ceuse at the moment and have a recalled grigri2. Any ideas on what to do? I can't send it off so might have to take it somewhere to swap it I guess? I think the language barrier might be an issue.
Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: Paul B on June 26, 2011, 11:36:04 am
What's your take on them Paul?

I'll do myself out of a sale here...

Basically we bought one in Germany after I'd been short-roped one too many times using our old rope on a grabbing Gri-Gri. The locals all had Cinchs and were throwing out rope without issue (thumb press on a gri-gri leaves me a bit nervy being light).
The Cinch is lighter certainly and less grabby but I found it a bit of a pain to use as you hold it completely differently to everything else I've belayed with. Everyone has used a Gri-Gri whereas the Cinch isn't intuitive. The small handle is a bit irritating  I found (much like the Gri-Gri 2), smooth fast lowering seems tricky.

Currently, as the new Gri-Gri's weighs about 7g more I can't really see why anyone would prefer a cinch TBH (they're not cheap). I used it teamed with one handled ascender a few times and wasn't as happy as when using a Gri-Gri in the same way as the cam doesn't have any sprung force behind it.

However, I know El Mocho has one and loves it. I love it too really, honest.
Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: mrjonathanr on June 26, 2011, 05:13:38 pm
Ha-ha, thanks for the candid response. I've just been using one for a couple of days when away and found it irritating to not be able to feed a little rope back and forth as you do with a sticht plate or gri-gri,  definitely not intuitive to use in that respect. In terms of feeding rope out in a hurry - where I think the grigri is poor- the cinch is superb. I haven't used one enough to judge more, or held many falls etc.

So I'm undecided - and already have a grigri. How much would you want for it?
Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: mrjonathanr on June 26, 2011, 09:13:35 pm
I am in Ceuse at the moment and have a recalled grigri2. Any ideas on what to do? I can't send it off so might have to take it somewhere to swap it I guess? I think the language barrier might be an issue.

Post what you want to say and I'll translate it for you if you want.
Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: 205Chris on June 26, 2011, 09:27:45 pm
I am in Ceuse at the moment and have a recalled grigri2. Any ideas on what to do? I can't send it off so might have to take it somewhere to swap it I guess? I think the language barrier might be an issue.

If you bought it in the UK I'd probably start with e-mailing Lyon equipment explaining the situation (grigri2@lyon.co.uk) and see what advice they give.
Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: Paul B on June 26, 2011, 09:37:18 pm
I've just been using one for a couple of days when away and found it irritating to not be able to feed a little rope back and forth as you do with a sticht plate or gri-gri,  definitely not intuitive to use in that respect....

You have to leave the hand that 'pinches' the cam stationary and shuffle everything else with the other hand to do so I think?

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...How much would you want for it?

I had it here (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,17679.0.html) but it didn't sell!
Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: mrjonathanr on June 27, 2011, 05:30:07 pm
How about £25 posted/dropped off ?
Title: Re: GriGri2 recall
Post by: Paul B on June 27, 2011, 06:09:11 pm
Done. (ow all I need to do is find it again). I'm right by the Foundry but can drop it off nearer the works etc. just drop me a pm.
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