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Title: New climbing video site...
Post by: tomtom on May 17, 2011, 07:04:57 pm
Saw that this commercial site was launched today (I think)... looks pretty good at first blush.. nice range of older films/vids too..
TT

http://www.steepedge.com/ (http://www.steepedge.com/)
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: slackline on May 18, 2011, 07:16:11 am
Good luck to FD with the new venture.
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: slackline on May 18, 2011, 10:19:53 am
 :lol: Looks like FD owes you the money instead tomtom  :P
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: Falling Down on May 18, 2011, 12:31:51 pm
Thanks all.  It's a soft launch this week and well be following up with a campaign once we are comfortable that all is stable.

Props to the Vertebrate Graphics team for the Design and Build.
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: Stu Littlefair on May 18, 2011, 12:41:45 pm
I really like the idea behind this site. I'm curious to see a lot of climbing DVDs, but not enough to actually spend 20 quid on them, so the idea of paying a few quid to rent them seems ideal.

Unfortunately , at the moment there's nothing I haven't seen that i'd like to see. I'll keep checking in though...
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: Will Hunt on May 18, 2011, 01:05:41 pm
This looks like a great idea. Would be keen to see Best Forgotten Art as well if it can be acquired.
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: philo on May 18, 2011, 02:10:13 pm
and a surfing section!
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: slackline on May 18, 2011, 02:16:46 pm
Would be keen to see Best Forgotten Art as well if it can be acquired.

Can always get it direct from the man himself (http://www.johnnydawes.com/videos/) (well worth it , t'is a gem of a film).
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: Will Hunt on May 18, 2011, 02:22:41 pm
It's twenty eleven. VHS? What's one of them? Plus the idea of paying £3 for a rental shared amongst 4 other people in our house is much more appealing than buying for £15 and having to pay it all myself.

Ben, if renting does it have to be streaming or can you download, such as on iplayer? We can only play stuff on our living room TV if we've got it downloaded.
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: galpinos on May 18, 2011, 02:32:38 pm
Ben, if renting does it have to be streaming or can you download, such as on iplayer? We can only play stuff on our living room TV if we've got it downloaded.

You can download rentals, you've then got a time limit in which to watch it, 72 hrs I believe. Plenty of time to get your 3 quids worth!

I'm sure many more films will become available as more and more film makers realise the potential of bith the site and the streaming/download/rental market.

There's some really classic stuff on there!
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: nik at work on May 18, 2011, 02:36:11 pm
Good luck with the venture Ben. The wife and kid are away for a few days next week so I might order a takeaway or two and enjoy some of your products whilst the TV isn't been used to watch Britains Desperate Apprentice Housewives Strictly Got Talent...
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: Falling Down on May 18, 2011, 02:48:39 pm
I'm at work at the moment and answering on my phone so apologies for the brief answer. 

Will - There is loads of info in the FAQs but Rental is via streaming only.  DRM was a nightmare and too costly to provide time or watch# constrained downloads for rental.

If you buy a film you get a DRM free download and you also have a copy permanently available in your film library that you can watch anytime, anywhere.

Great to see this level of interest.  We have loads of films in the pipeline to be added and like Galpinos said above, there are a few film makers waiting to see how it all works and will hopefully see the benefit of being available via SteepEdge.

We're just scratching the surface of our technology platform and have the potential for live broadcasts and other great features in the pipeline. 
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: slackline on May 18, 2011, 02:56:08 pm
It's twenty eleven. VHS? What's one of them?

I bought the DVD not the VHS from Dawes' site.
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: slackline on May 18, 2011, 03:06:07 pm
Techy question....I've a PC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_computer), but use something other than M$/OSX as my operating system.  I also like to rip my DVDs to MP4 and stick them on my PS3 to watch as thats the media centre I have in my living room.

What hope do I have of being able to view and purchase these items on both my PCs and my PS3?  Basically what is the format that they are made available for download in?  Sounds very much like Quicktime which I can view as both Mplayer (http://www.mplayerhq.hu/) and VLC (http://www.videolan.org/vlc/) support, although I've no experience of how they handle DRM.

I realise this is likely a small proportion of your potential market but am tempted by the ease of downloading, but if I can't watch them where and when I want there's no point (for me at least).

Certainly not an urgent matter either.

(Also I've not come across itunes for Android (https://market.android.com/search?q=itunes) as is suggested is possible in the Watching Films FAQ (http://www.steepedge.com/information/watching-films/index.html), that could cause some confusion).

Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: Falling Down on May 18, 2011, 03:15:13 pm
Slackers the downloads are DRM free so you can burn to DVD, drag into your preferred media player etc (apart from putting it on Pirate Bay - overlords are watching)

Could you feedback the point about Android via the site please so our team of customer service operators can respond? :P

Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: Dexter on May 18, 2011, 03:35:00 pm
great looking site and great idea good effort
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: slackline on May 18, 2011, 03:41:26 pm
Slackers the downloads are DRM free so you can burn to DVD, drag into your preferred media player etc (apart from putting it on Pirate Bay - overlords are watching)

 :oops: my mistake, sorry for skim-reading.  All good though  :2thumbsup:

Could you feedback the point about Android via the site please so our team of customer service operators can respond? :P

Will do.
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: Iesu on May 18, 2011, 06:27:12 pm
sounds like an awesome alternative to the current shit state of free-to-air tv. I will check it out
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: tomtom on May 18, 2011, 07:35:17 pm
It's twenty eleven. VHS? What's one of them? Plus the idea of paying £3 for a rental shared amongst 4 other people in our house is much more appealing than buying for £15 and having to pay it all myself.

Ben, if renting does it have to be streaming or can you download, such as on iplayer? We can only play stuff on our living room TV if we've got it downloaded.

If you've got a laptop with an HDMI output just plug it into any modernish telly.. most laptops from 2/3 years to present seem to have one...
T
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: Robsons on May 18, 2011, 11:05:09 pm
Great idea - looks good!
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: grimer on May 18, 2011, 11:16:37 pm
Yay! Thumbs up to Ben and John and Brian and the rest. And Bonners! World legend.

So who are the dragons in that team, and who is Levi Roots?
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: lagerstarfish on May 18, 2011, 11:30:02 pm
Well, I certainly won't be marketing my latest blockbuster (Lagerland Lost) through that site. I expect to guzzle at least £5 for each eye that gazes upon my work in wonder (that's £20 for four eyed geeks)

I might be able to make a deal with the site owners if they offer enough fried chicken.

£3 seems a good price to rent a film. I did a quick think about the effort involved in downloading/stealing/pirating these films and realised that paying £3 is not a bad alternative to breaking the law and depriving artists of their livelihood.

Is the price of £3 just an accident because the £ sign is on the 3 key on most keyboards and you have employed a fat handed marketing manager?

*edit

£3 is less than a pint of premium lager, but still more than a pint of Easy Rider. £2.50 seems closer to fuck all.
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: grimer on May 18, 2011, 11:52:56 pm
Then why don't you just rent the premium lager?
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: lagerstarfish on May 19, 2011, 12:01:45 am
They only let you rent premium lager by the tonne and I always end up losing my deposit when I have that much
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: SA Chris on May 19, 2011, 08:46:09 am
and a surfing section!

Aye, slight flaw there FD.

Otherwise, an ace idea, good luck.

Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: rodma on May 19, 2011, 08:46:38 am
Yaaaay, can finally get digital copies of stick it, stone love and the real thing  :popcorn:

FD, you have made my whole week  :lets_do_it_wild:
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: SA Chris on May 19, 2011, 08:59:43 am
I think All mixed Up / Fools with Tools is in the wrong place (not bouldering?), and the FB Follow button just hyperlinks to FB?
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: simes on May 19, 2011, 01:03:07 pm
This looks like a great idea. Would be keen to see Best Forgotten Art as well if it can be acquired.

I've got BFA on vhs if anyone wants it...
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: simes on May 19, 2011, 01:35:43 pm
What's to stop people paying £3 and recording the stream as it comes in?
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: slackline on May 19, 2011, 01:48:44 pm
What's to stop people paying £3 and recording the stream as it comes in?

Technical know how most of the time.  :ninja:
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: tomtom on May 19, 2011, 03:16:56 pm
Nothing to stop me recording them on my Ifern, and to add to that pirated look I'll make rustling sounds throughout, and make a mini cardboard cutout of a person to wave between lens and screen every now and then. Adding Malay subtitles may be harder but I'm working on it... ;)
Title: Re: New climbing video site...
Post by: Falling Down on May 19, 2011, 09:26:10 pm
Thanks for all the feedback - I have a relatively minor role in all of this and it's really all down to Brian and John.  Any kudos should be directed toward them than me.  Feedback is best directed through the admin/info address on SteepEdge rather than on here.

Ben Pritch and Tom Phillips have worked extremely hard and also the Vertebrate Graphics team who built the site.

Chris - yes there are lots of things that need sorting out.  It was 'soft launch' this week and we hadn't anticipated the level of attention, but that's all good.  Facebook is coming v. soon.

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