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the shizzle => shootin' the shit => music, art and culture => Topic started by: fatdoc on October 15, 2009, 05:34:42 pm
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may as well start the hype now...
who's preordered? On what platform? let's get sad together ;)
personally it looks amazing. This time the single player looks much better, the online is suitablly tweeked with more customisation, ground to air missiles, airbourne gunner perks and no more damn juggernaut. Throwing semtex onto someone's head and causing a rather big bang looks fun an all!!
The 3rd facet of the stealth co-op mode either split screen or online looks like an up to date SOCOM... cool.
sooo... who's joining me on the 10th on playstation network?
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Man you are such a sad loser. P.S. have got my headset sorted for coop ;D
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Pre-ordered with holidays at work already booked.
The trailers look immense, especially the throwing knives. Been waiting for this for a while.
:thumbsup:
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Will this be coming out on Mac does anybody know? I run the Mac version of MW on my Macbook (new version Dec 08) and while I can't crank up the graphics that high I am still able to own and pwn.
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Just get a console for the occasion mate.
I jus spent £40 on installing Ethernet to electric plug to ps3 Ethernet.
God damn... It's soooooo much better..
Do it..
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Someone at work has taken the week off for this. Jammy bastard.
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It still won't be as good as Halo 3 :whistle:
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frankly I dispute that mate.
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H3 is still the most played game on XBL, 2 years after it's release.
Also, it's quite telling that MLG use Halo as their flagship tournament game, and not one of the COD series ;)
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H3 is still the most played game on XBL, 2 years after it's release.
Also, it's quite telling that MLG use Halo as their flagship tournament game, and not one of the COD series ;)
If MS manned up and let the Sony gamers have it we would have a fair global assessment, as opposed to console biased opinion, of which I am guilty as charged.
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Yeah, but the 360 has Halo & COD so it is a pretty fair assessment - to be fair, COD4 is in 2nd place on XBL.
MS will never allow Halo on PS3 whilst they have control over it, just like Sony will never allow Killzone on the 360 as it's published by themselves.
Same with Forza/Gran Turismo series I guess.
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I won't bother with it (not really like killing 'human beings'- don't know why) - besides, no matter what other games I get, I'm still addicted to GOW2. Seems to be getting better all the time (for me anyway).
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To be fair, part of the week off does have to be spent with the lass, which I find rather selfish.
You know you are psyched for a game when you swat a fly and shout "+5".
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New trailer:
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 Launch Trailer (Official HD) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=429l13dS6kQ&feature=popular#)
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Will be purchasing it on Tuesday for the 360 and playing the pants of it!!
I have a mate who has clocked up over 2 weeks on the first one and has taken 2 days off to dedicate to Christening its follow up!
Anyone wanting a UKB CoD buddy PM me your Gamertag and we'll take on the world - MWHA HA HA!!
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So did a bit of training last night.....you know just getting ready for impending fatherhood with some sleep deprivation......
Got a copy at 12 last night(very sad i know) finally got to bed early this morn and now am at work feeling like Ive been clubbing. Did bit of on line and then campaign. So far its a real treat, the highlights being the ice mission and the Brazil favellas. The bit after this I wont spoil but its frickin amazing. New baddy control on the campaign has worked and there is some logic in how they move, interact, react to your movements.
Online felt very solid with new spaces that offered some real potential, the Quarry being huge and full of suprises.
Only just scratched the surface though, best try to look busy before I fall asleep at my desk!
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MW is now on the Wii. Thinking of getting it, should I just wade straight in or will I find it too hard? Should I have a go at some of the older CoD games first? Or will they look dated and shit by modern standards.
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Have a copy in my bag for the 360! Roll on 18:07 when I'll arrive with my entire evening free for pwnage!!
Anyone else planning a evening in PM me your Gamertag!
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MW is now on the Wii. Thinking of getting it, should I just wade straight in or will I find it too hard? Should I have a go at some of the older CoD games first? Or will they look dated and shit by modern standards.
earlier games look very dated now, if your going for any go for COD4(which should be cheap). mw2 doesnt seem any harder to me than cod4. In fact with new baddy control it feels less random on campaign mode. On line you will be spanked to start with but it plays differently to the campaign so everyones in the same boat for first few tries
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Cool, will look out for COD4. Can't be hooped with online play to be honest, would prefer to do campaigns. Or is that missing the point?
Just finished Blazing Angels, so looking for something new until Shaun White Snowboarding II is released.
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Compared to the Xbox and PS3 I'd imagine it will never look as glitzy on the Wii 'cause its not, and won't be HD (http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/11/09/nintendo_kills_wii_hd_rumour/). Game play itself should be similar/the same.
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Cheers, I was aware of that and don't expect it, but not really bothered about glitz TBH.
If gameplay is good, graphics can be of ZX81 quality for all I care.
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Chris if you have a PC less than 5 years old, it should run COD4 and there's a demo to check out, it's pretty cool. Still haven't got around to playing the full game tho.
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Once you've played one COD campaign, you've pretty much played them all (obviously MW2 excluded as I've not played it yet, though reviews say it can be completed in one evening). Look great but very corridored, scripted, linear. Soon becomes a pain. Many big shooters campaigns are the same - MOH, Halo, etc.
Sandbox style games offer so much more, it's the way forward.
Or is that missing the point?
I would say it is. You can't beat playing with/against other humans.
Not sure whether to bother with MW2, more tempted by Forza 3.
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Know what you mean about scripted events and being forced down a corridor, but when it's done well it's excellent eg GOW2 & Hard Life, but it's also very easy to get wrong eg 95% of all FPS's. I think the 'set pieces' in sanbox games struggle sometimes with a few exceptions. Dunno which I prefer, but I think Far Cry struck the balance perfectly, and some levels in Halo.
Check out Crackdown if you haven't already Bubba, should be pretty cheap now and a great of sandbox.
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Know what you mean about scripted events and being forced down a corridor, but when it's done well it's excellent eg GOW2 & Hard Life
Not to mention Uncharted 1 and 2 on the Ps3 - Absolutely fantastic and prob two of the best things I've played in a long time. I love the GOW2esque cover/gunfighting which works brilliantly and is very fluid.
Everyone on my friends list is playing MW2 but I refuse to give in!
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Check out Crackdown if you haven't already Bubba, should be pretty cheap now and a great of sandbox.
I'm looking forward to Crackdown 2 out next year (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/crackdown-2-tgs-preview) :)
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Chris if you have a PC less than 5 years old, it should run COD4 and there's a demo to check out, it's pretty cool.
Got a fairly new laptop at home, but prefer playing games on the Wii.
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For the Wii, Metroid Prime Trilogy (http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/wii/metroidprimetrilogy) and Dead Space (http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/wii/deadspaceextraction) are meant to be decent shooters.
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MP Trilogy is on Xmas list. Need to keep laptop free so she can use 'net when I am playing games :)
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Found I had 4 games to trade so got myself a copy of MW2 today. It was a toss-up between that and Forza 3 but since I'd been driving all night a driving game didn't really appeal.
It'd better be worth the hype.
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I'm in the same position Bubba, does it have a split screen co-op?
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I'd been driving all night
a driving game didn't really appeal.
I think the second line is actually "my hand's wet on the wheel".
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I'm in the same position Bubba, does it have a split screen co-op?
Yes, it has split-screen co-op or remote co-op over XBL (not sure about PS3 version but sure it'll be the same).
Having a quick bash through campaign on "hardened" difficulty which seems about right - not too hard, not stupidly easy. The Ice climbing is funny, am trying to do the airport thang without shooting but I don't think it's possible so i'll limit it to not shooting civilians.
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That's what I did, then repeated it full carnage. No difference in pathway.
Campaign gets better.. Much.
Online server error pissing me and norton off, invites and online co op don't bloody work!!:-((
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Hope the campaign gets better cos' personally I think it's really not very interesting. Then again I have been through COD3, 4, 5 ....
Friends invite issue appears to not be limited to us FD, see the forums. The person being invited needs to log out of PSN, accept the invite and then log back in, apparently. Seems rather long winded and hopefully (another) patch will be forthcoming soon. Ready for tonight's onslaught?
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Just finished it on "hardened" - good difficulty I reckon, you need to think a bit - anything easier would have been a waste of time really. Will probably do it on "veteran" for the tick.
I thought it was really good in some parts - the Favella levels were good, and some stuff was exciting and atmospheric. My main complaints are why can't you turn off the music? I hate game music. Also, still far too corridored - really annoying when the corridor is so narrow so you have to go exactly where they want you to go - it just feels artificial.
Now for some multiplayer I reckon - if my now shitty ISP (which I'm changing) will let me get on...
Not tried "Special Ops" either - any good?
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Initial thoughts on multiplayer
- Level matching is a bit stupid - why match < level 10 in with > level 35 ?
- Maps lend themselves to camping and the amount of junk in some of them brings a lot of luck into the equation.
- Some spawns are very iffy. You can spawn right behind somebody for instance.
- The ever present aircraft are fucking annoying (can this be turned off in custom matches?)
- Same with the missiles, etc - very unskilled
- Lag issues can be horrible
But that said, it's quite enjoyable to play.
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Level matching <10 with >35 doesn't really matter does it. There are lots of crap level 35's, and above, around. Wait until you get matched with someone who is a prestige level 3 and above or so and knows every single nook and cranny on the maps and works with a team. Then you'll know about getting f***ed over ;).
Not sure about the camping too. If you mean that you need to camp rather than avoid running around in the open I think this leads to better gameplay. I guess its just different to Halo, for example? Can't wait to get the Claymores for some proper camping :).
I do think the multiplayer has been made so that it's now far easier to shoot people. If your shot is anywhere near they're dead - COD4 you had to be spot on with your shots and the body armour defended you much more.
I agree that the aircraft are too frequent, but being the AC130 (or whatever it is) pilot is quite fun and saves you getting shot for a while.
Lag can be horrible but the host migration is a bonus.
Not tried "Spec Ops" either.
Personally I think MW2 has good maps like COD5 but with the weapons(ish) of COD4. Does that make it the best COD yet? No. For me the beach assault in COD3 and the general feel of COD4 are better. COD6 just doesn't leave me with the same satisfaction. Just off to try the Spec Ops to see if that changes my opinion.
:wave:
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The hitbox in multiplayer is terrible, it's like CSS or something. Keep getting irate at the killcam when someone totally misses but gets the kill. Some of the maps are pretty bad and only really enjoyed the Airport map. The campaign was fun though, even if you got killed in a cinematic 2(3?) times :boohoo:
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Not sure about the camping too. If you mean that you need to camp rather than avoid running around in the open I think this leads to better gameplay. I guess its just different to Halo, for example? Can't wait to get the Claymores for some proper camping :).
Maps where you can use camping as a strategy are just stupid - there's no skill involved in hiding behind a desk then jumping out with a shotgun and shooting people in the back.
A well designed MP map shouldn't facilitate lengthy camping. If you have a hiding place that is secure from one direction, then it should be exposed to fire from a different direction, etc.
Have a look at the Halo map variants that MLG come up with for competition play. They are really well balanced and encourage hardcore gameplay, not fannying about setting mines or shooting people with missiles from the sky.
Don't get me wrong, MW2 is a lot of fun but it doesn't seem to really be that competitive. I'll play some more and see if things improve. Perhaps custom games are the way to go - I've not explored the custom game options yet, you might be able to turn some of the crap off. A map editor like Halo's Forge would be awesome too.
Wait until you get matched with someone who is a prestige level 3 and above or so and knows every single nook and cranny on the maps and works with a team. Then you'll know about getting f***ed over ;)
I've been unfortunate enough to meet some Halo pros and proper competition teams on a few occasions - it's certainly pretty demoralising :)
<edit> There's actually quite a lot of discussion re MW2 on the MLG forums regarding how to make it balanced and competitive - see here. (http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=220)
This topic (http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=281472) and this one (http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=281153) have some interesting stuff in.
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I think MW2 is too complex to be considered an e-sport like Halo/GoW, the killstreak bonuses and the camping aspect kinda ruin that. But it's really good fun and very competitive. My first impressions have changed dramatically after ~20 levels of multiplayer, it takes some getting used to; but I think it's a valuable multiplayer FPS experience, if a bit less well balanced for e-sport play than Halo/GoW
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Maps where you can use camping as a strategy are just stupid - there's no skill involved in hiding behind a desk then jumping out with a shotgun and shooting people in the back.
Agreed, people who use camping spots are the worst kind of scum. Is there an option to move the weapon spawn points?
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weapons don't spawn, you start with them or take them off people. I don't think any of the camping spots are conducive to people sitting there for the whole game, you get a pretty good killcam when they kill you so campers don't normally last long!
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not that I've got there but once i open up harddcore ( easily the best on cod 4)
- there is no deathcam, no HUD and it's all much less arcade and really tense
if i get a silenced sniper... then BOOM no red dot .. no sound.. average campinf site and..... never gonna die.
now, that's simply shite.
anyone got there yet??
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Loving it so far I have to say and the Spec Ops are a genius addition to which I have already lost a fair few hours!!
This guy on the other hand isn't so sold on it...
http://www.digitalbattle.com/2009/11/15/this-guy-really-hates-modern-warfare-2/ (http://www.digitalbattle.com/2009/11/15/this-guy-really-hates-modern-warfare-2/)
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Bubba - clearly you are a pro and I am an amateur. I didn't understand any of those MLG links. I suppose I just run round shooting peeps and try to keep my kill ratio > 1 and/or to make sure it is better than FatDocs ratio ;). At the moment this is something of a struggle, these maps are too big for my tiny brain to remember.
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anyone got there yet??
I've just unlocked the hardcore modes - does seem a bit better but again, this game is still campier than Stephen Fry.
Norton, at least you understand the concept of kill ratio - lots of people don't understand that ratio > kills in slayer.
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Kill ratios can be ignored and still be effective at cod.
Personally I only understood them once I got into hardcore cod.
There is a benefit in gaugin ability by way of this on cod, but only if you play that way and not just.. Level up... Level up methodology.
This is way off halo.
So, what is it? Level up or kill ratio?
I hate the way in the in game points bonus does not reflect yr ratio.
Cod is an online arcade experience.. Shallow, but damn fun. It's not a game for global expert players, what guts me is mw2 is far more like this than cod 4.
I'm not overtly impressed...
Give me more time & I will beat sharleys ratio, but... Do I do this at the expense of my level?
Christ, fuck it.
Some nights are for levels, others get the sniper out & go for ratios.
I reckon best middle ground is get to top level and then tick all the weapons..
Best combo of skill, and fun.
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My point is that in a slayer/deathmatch game then ratio is everything. Not just in MW2, in any game.
The team with the positive ratio wins, the one with the negative ratio loses. If they both have a zero ratio then it's a draw - simple as that.
A lot of people don't understand this so they chase kills, die a lot and lose the match.
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So, do I buy this game, or would one of the earlier CoDs be more fun for me (especially in campaign mode rather than online)?
Hardly played any shooting games, but enjoyed Killzone 2.
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As before if you have a half-decent PC, try the COD4 demo...
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Haven't played an fps since CoD 1 came out! Used to be a bit addicted to the MP and almost went to the cpl in america but sacked it off to go on a trip to font instead and stopped playing clan matches after that :thumbsdown:
Is CoD 4 more akin to original CoD or is MW2 a good alternative to both if I were to get into some casual online play now and again :shrug:
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My point is that in a slayer/deathmatch game then ratio is everything. Not just in MW2, in any game.
The team with the positive ratio wins, the one with the negative ratio loses. If they both have a zero ratio then it's a draw - simple as that.
A lot of people don't understand this so they chase kills, die a lot and lose the match.
that is the failing of this game.. i admitt halo sorts this
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that is the failing of this game.. i admitt halo sorts this
Nah, it's the same in Halo and any other slayer/deathmatch game - it's just life :)
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I was thinking about this topic on the way home - I sort of assumed that talk of ratio in relation to shooters was referring to "Kill:Death Ratio" but realise that not everyone may have been on about the same thing. Sorry if my ramblings above made little sense without that assumption.
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Just picked up my copy, so now i have to decide to wait till 8pm when minime goes to bed or to get him skilled up as my point man (jump on that grenade for me). He's 4.
I ain't got time to bleed!
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Iwas referring to "Kill:Death Ratio"
I knew what you meant. Not sure if I agree with you on the Positive -win/negative - lose tho. So many people quit to preserve theirs and your chances of winning are affected by lag and other factors. I can proudly say that I've finally gone + on GOW2 but even when I play with others with 'good' ratios we still get beat by opponents with lesser ratios.
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I was thinking about this topic on the way home - I sort of assumed that talk of ratio in relation to shooters was referring to "Kill:Death Ratio" but realise that not everyone may have been on about the same thing. Sorry if my ramblings above made little sense without that assumption.
In the world of kill:death ratios (KDR, if you will), where do assists fall?
So much harder to keep up a good kdr in MW2 compared to halo3 or CS for me.
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Not sure if I agree with you on the Positive -win/negative - lose tho.
If you have two teams playing a game where the one with the highest score wins (or the first team to score X) then it's the only way it can be (assuming suicides, etc aren't scored).
If Team A goes +10 then Team B must have gone -10. Team B cannot win.
Say Team A gets 40 kills and incurs 30 losses - that means that Team B cannot have got more than 30 kills and must have incurred 40 losses :)
In the world of kill:death ratios (KDR, if you will), where do assists fall?
I think on a personal level they are valid - if your personal KDR is brought down by lots of assists then it doesn't mean your a bad player, but it still won't affect the outcome of the game. I know in Halo (and prob many other team based games) may teams will allocate a "main slayer" and "backup slayer(s)" - the backup guys will often get a lesser ratio due to their greater number of assists rather than straight kills but the team will still need to stay +ve as a whole in order to win.
I've had so many games where some shouty kid will berate you for not getting more kills but when you check their stats they have gone negative. You point this out to them but they just don't get it. N00bs!!
My MW2 ratio is only 1.10 at the minute but that's fine considering I'm learning the game/maps/etc. Never really played COD online before so I'm going to suck for a while.
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Sorry - crossed wires. ;)
I was meaning the individual stats of the players before the games starts ie if one teams combined stats were all + and other teams were all - .
Oops.
You should head back to Gears Bubba - So many changes now for the better. I play Guardian all the time. You can actually play and have fun. Still get lag but its rarely unbearable.
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Not sure if I agree with you on the Positive -win/negative - lose tho.
My MW2 ratio is only 1.10 at the minute but that's fine considering I'm learning the game/maps/etc. Never really played COD online before so I'm going to suck for a while.
Mine is a measly 0.9, just got my CSS ratio up to 3.2 this week as well :( I'll work on it! I get the feeling that once you mastered sentry guns or whatever your kill/death will go through the roof. You're totally right about the kill/death ratio being all that matters to the team in a deathmatch game
Does anyone play MW2 on a PC?
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CSS you say Chris!
I reinstalled steam and downloaded it again 2 days ago. had my first game of CSS in 4 years the other night and managed to get more around a 1.5 k:d somehow. My reactions and general co-ordination are so much poorer than they used to be :-[
Few more sessions and relearning maps other than dust/dust2..etc and I will have to get on a server with you without being humiliated! :thumbsup:
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keen for that Rich! Get on MW2, it's pretty fun really. What's your SteamID? Think mine is deityofheresy or beardown but will check and let you know later!
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Well I've been playing this game quite a lot - I'm not particularly good, only just hit level 40 (and got my M16 :) ) but have been enjoying it immensely. Am still >1 KDR which is fine for a COD n00b like me.
My final pros / cons would be for the multiplayer:
*H3 = Halo 3. As the other top MP shooter on Xbox Live comparisons are inevitable
Pros
- Serious fun and very addictive.
- Matchmaking system is good - tries to find games with <50ms ping - wish H3 would do this too.
- Matchmaking also seems quite good at balancing ability - there's no real information on how this is done but it seems to work - I usually get matched with people not to far above/below my skill level. In H3 this is all done by level (the level system works on wins/losses not XP like in MW2) but is very open to abuse/boosting/etc.
- The Perks system seems nicely balanced forcing you to make far reaching decisions on your spec.
- Huge variety of weapons & equipment specs to choose from.
- The facility to create custom classes is great - love being able to pick from a fast running class with fast firing submachine guns if you're in a certain mood/on an FFA map and then have another one for crafty sniping, etc.
- The graphics are excellent; players, events like explosions and the map scenery all look awesome (certainly as good as H3) and never suffer from any flicker or slowdown.
- I love the ability to shoot through certain surfaces with certain guns - adds an interesting element to using and fighting cover.
- The way motion sensors have been implemented is excellent - the whole UAV from Killstreaks thing.
- The Killcam is great for stopping people camping in one place for too long.
- Stats are great - it's nice to be able to see your Kill/Death ratio inside the game, rather than having to use an external website like you have to with H3.
Cons
- The sound isn't as accurate as other games - in H3 the sound of fighting will allow you to pinpoint where the action is much more intuitively.
- It's doesn't have the toe-to-toe combat skill that H3 has. I'm not being a H3 fanboy, it just doesn't. In H3 you can have long exchanges where the outcome is unclear until the last second. I don't see this in MW2. It's not as "competitive".
- The "feel" is also much less intuitive to H3 but it's still very good so you just get used to it.
- The aircraft are too over the top. When you can call in a Harrier Strike and get 5 or 6 kills from it by doing nothing then it spoils the balance of the game. Basically a good team who's in the lead and have some decent killstreaks gain a massive advantage that it's difficult for the losing team to eat into. It'd be better if it was a little easier to counter the aircraft and they didn't last as long. That would make games more competitive.
- There's a lot of camping and the complexity of the scenery in the maps lends themselves to this. Although the Killcam does mitigate this to a certain extent, it still doesn't a player moving from one camping spot to the next - there's so many of them that this can still be a strategy. Guess this is just how COD maps are so I've tried to get used to it.
- Things like thermal sights make it too easy for snipers to gain kills at long range - again it needs balance, e.g. the thermal image only lasts a few seconds.
- No facility to turn off the music.
- Needs more maps quickly. Some of the maps are great but there's not enough of them.
- H3 has a fully fledged video editor and map editor/creator - MW2 would benefit a great deal from similar functionality.
All in all, great game well worth buying for the multiplayer alone. The campaign is similar to the rest of COD campaigns but the Spec Ops is a nice addition.
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I'm on level 21.
I agree with totally.
best post of the thread.
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- Things like thermal sights make it too easy for snipers to gain kills at long range - again it needs balance, e.g. the thermal image only lasts a few seconds.
Great post. Heard something about a "cold shoulder" achievement which I think makes you invisible to thermal imaging. Not sure if this can then be used in multi-player though.
Here you go.
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 for PC will include 50 Steam Achievements, enticing players to train a local militia and be “Back in the Saddle” or infiltrate the snowy mountain side base and earn the “Cold Shoulder.”
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- Things like thermal sights make it too easy for snipers to gain kills at long range - again it needs balance, e.g. the thermal image only lasts a few seconds.
Great post. Heard something about a "cold shoulder" achievement which I think makes you invisible to thermal imaging. Not sure if this can then be used in multi-player though.
Here you go.
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 for PC will include 50 Steam Achievements, enticing players to train a local militia and be “Back in the Saddle” or infiltrate the snowy mountain side base and earn the “Cold Shoulder.”
Cold-Blooded | Cold-Blooded Pro
Cold-Blooded Perk Ability: Undetectable by UAV, air support, Sentry Guns, and thermal.
Pro Ability: No red crosshair or name shown when you are targeted.
It's essential in my opinion, along with Ninja (though I'm not a high enough level for Last Stand (~38)
Ability: Invisible to heartbeat sensors.
Pro Ability: Allows you to move silently.
Ninja+Coldblooded and a silencer makes you essentially invisible in game
Edit: Added Perks link http://www.themodernwarfare2.com/mw2/multiplayer/perks/ (http://www.themodernwarfare2.com/mw2/multiplayer/perks/)
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what level do I have to get to go cold bloodied?
God, I bet the search and destroy / hardcore modes are then ace!!
with such big levels i bet you only see 2 players a round.
wont get you levelled up, but that's where the class action is i reckon.
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I can't remember exactly, around level 30 I think. With all the stealth perks/addons on a hardcore map you would untraceable if you found a good camp spot, but I prefer to move between good positions; rather than spend a whole map in one place. Cold blooded pro and long grass is a great combination.
I heard something about hidden games they found on MW2, with a 5v5 arena subgame, and VIP/escort scenario and like 3 others so hopefully they'll patch in different games with dedicated servers sometime in the future for the PC.
I think with the quasi-tactical nature of the game, I'd prefer Halo3 if I was playing on a console, but I think it works really well on PC. Agree with everything Bubs says.
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Right, I've just completed the single player mode and am about to start my journey into Xbox live. What are the things you most wish you'd known before beginning online play?
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Right, I've just completed the single player mode and am about to start my journey into Xbox live. What are the things you most wish you'd known before beginning online play?
Have you played many online shooters before?
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Yeah loads. I was heavily into COD4. I just didn't want to ruin my KDR by committing some horrendous error on weapon/spec!
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you dont get the whole choice of game modes as early.. concentrate on 1 assault rifle and one machine gun for 150 kills each to get the 1000s of points to assist leveling up quick.
carry a launcher, to get the helicopters down quick.
use frags not semtex, it throws further
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Learn the maps - they're pretty complex; I'm only just getting the hang of them after 200 odd games.
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that quarry is a bloody mystery to me.
the airport is good.
the fields / trenches are rather shite. there again i have yet to fire a sniper rifle in anger.. loads of snipers standing around getting knifed though ;)
one level i've only played once ( no choice on ps3), which was well odd, one of the building levels..
the snow one is ace, esp with a gun turret at the logcabin ;D
oh, and i'm getting a bit pissed at the chickens
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MODERN WARFARE 2 SUCKS (crazy kid) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgn2jugK_Hk#)
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Cold-Blooded | Cold-Blooded Pro
Cold-Blooded Perk Ability: Undetectable by UAV, air support, Sentry Guns, and thermal.
Pro Ability: No red crosshair or name shown when you are targeted.
It's essential in my opinion, along with Ninja (though I'm not a high enough level for Last Stand (~38)
I'm now running Marathon (nearly got pro), Cold Blooded Pro & Ninja Pro - works well; fast, silent movement that's hard to detect.
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I'm now running Marathon (nearly got pro), Cold Blooded Pro & Ninja Pro - works well; fast, silent movement that's hard to detect.
Mate, I'm afraid to say that you have none of those attributes ;)
What KDR are you up to now? I have a miserley 0.76 but it'll improve now I have cold blood. And it's better than FD which, as I said before, is really the main issue. ;) ;)
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Currently level 44 & KDR 1.13.
Not great but I play quite cautiously - once i've learned the maps properly I'll get more kills. I'm also playing mercenary deathmatch on my own most of the time with no mic. With a team + comms things would be way easier but not got many ppl to play with on xbl atm due to work hours.
I can see callouts being problematic on these maps due to complexity but I've just found this rather good link (http://gamebattles.com/forums/t/Multiplayer-Map-Overviews-w-Callouts-2622715) :)
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this is the issue..
TBH until i prestige i dont give a fuck on my ratio.
I want mass weapon upgrades / bonuses...
so, my ratio will suffer..
if i wanted pure ratio comparisions I'd get a 360 and go Halo
* I believe this is yours sir*
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Eh?
If you play for KDR >1 then you'll get Prestige a lot quicker because you'll win more games and get more XP thus also getting upgrades faster. As has been said, KDR is the critical factor in all slayer/deathmatch/etc style games whether they are on the PC, 360 or PS3.
Halo doesn't even show KDR - you have to use external websites to get those sorts of stats. I don't look at mine as I know it's always >1; it's just the way I play - I nearly always get more kills than deaths.
Ratio isn't about bragging rights - so long as it's >1 that's all that really matters as it means you are contributing to the team. If it's <1 then you're dead weight and any wins your team has will be because other team members carried you.
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I see what Fatdoc is saying, some guns are terrible and it's hard to keep a good KDR when you're trying to level them but it's still a quicker way to get xp than sticking to a gun you like and trying to grind a good ratio.
KDR is totally irrelevant in game modes like Headquarters Pro, where you can die as many times as you like before the HQ is active, and risking a bad KDR rushing the HQ to get it online is the best way to win.
The hitboxes/lag on the PC are rediculous, it's a total lottery getting onto a decent server, so many times I had 2 bursts from the M16 into a headshot or chest and they haven't died.
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Yeah, at the beginning the weapons challenges do offer good XP but it doesn't take long to get to decent weapons you want to stick to anyway.
I don't obsess about KDR and you can't win every game but it's good to keep it as high as you can imo. As much as anything, less time spent dead/respawning equals more time fighting. Also, you're never going to get good killstreaks if you keep dying.
I've only really played deathmatch/ffa - should have a go at some of the other modes really.
I've been pretty impressed by the network on XBL - the majority of games are lag-free now, especially since I moved ISP to one that doesn't traffic shape gaming.
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tbh I think both Bubba and FD are correct to a point. KDR > 1 is ultimately the way to go otherwise you are just a burden on the team and you get less xp if you don't win the matches. However some weapons are rubbish and if you try to get xp by levelling the weapons then you'll probably have a KDR<1 with those weapons. Are they therefore worth using to get the xp? Not in my opinion. I'd rather stick with decent weapons, have a KDR>1 and get xp from kills and being on the winning team.
In COD4, and inspired by FBSF, once at Prestige for the third or so time I tried to level all weapons to max. That meant that all the weapons I didn't like using were the ones I was then playing with. As a result my KDR plummetted (sp?).
I guess it's a matter of playing style.
Had a brilliant spawning moment last night in hardcore deathmatch in Estate. I killed enemy in one of the house bathrooms, turned round, took one step forward in crouched, he spawned behind me stood on top of the toilet and obviously killed me! The spawning really is rubbish. Surely it shouldn't be too hard to ensure anyone spawns a minimum distance from an enemy and especially not spawning out of a toilet!! He must have felt like a right shit for that kill. My comment went along the lines of "you spawny bastard".
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You guys need to try L4D2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkU55bTjrWs#), seriously. I can't believe there's this much gaming energy around and it's not being expended shooting thousands of zombies with some mates :'(
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http://uk.media.xbox360.ign.com/media/142/14281102/vids_1.html (http://uk.media.xbox360.ign.com/media/142/14281102/vids_1.html)
link to all the maps for MW2, showing you all the hidden places
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KDR isn't everything, it's only beneficial in team deathmatch and free for all. I'm lvl 50 atm, slowly working my way through all the perk and gun challanges ( I don't understand how people are already on the 3rd or 4th prestige). Using a riot shield combined with a throwing knife is a guaranteed way of pissing off the enemy team.
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What happens when you get on a prestige? Your level resets to 1 and you go to 70, then the second prestige?
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same, same, but with more Prestige ;D
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The Prestige thing is a bit lame really if all you do is go round again.
It's a deficiency of the level system. Because it's XP based your level doesn't really relate to any ability/skill. Even a shit player will level up eventually just by playing the game.
Just got level 50 fwiw.
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I have to say, some of the Spec Ops missions are fucking nails solo.
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Sorry, but this looks much better than all this Modern warfare crap...
(http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/images/stories/gamex1.jpg)
...sorry, couldn't resist!
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What's your favourite class build? The one you play most? And why the choice? Mine is:
Primary: M16A4 + Red Dot Sight
- M16 seems the best allround AR (makes nonsense of the later AR unlocks) and prefer the reddot to the holographic. Also the way it fires in bursts reminds me of Halo 3's Battle Rifle.
Secondary: Stinger
- only launcher with 2 rounds and makes sense to carry a launcher with my perks.
Equipment: Semtex
- prefer to frags, more predictable placement.
Special Grenade: Stun
- smoke is for those with thermal sights and flash doesn't slow movement so the enemy can still get a lucky kill in by spraying.
Perk 1: Marathon Pro
- fast!.
Perk 2: Cold Blooded Pro
- hard to see.
Perk 3: Ninja Pro
- hard to hear.
This combo of Perks mean aircraft mostly ignore you and is good for catching out campers. Suits my stealthy playing style.
Death Streak: Martyrdom (all the death streaks are pretty lame, but i've had a few kills from this one).
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What's your favourite class build? The one you play most? And why the choice?
Primary: Vector with Rapid Fire
- Fun to use and brilliant at close range
Secondary: .44 Magnum
- Powerful and great with Last Stand
Equipment: C4
- Fun to use and useful on Domination or Demolition
Special Grenade: Stun
Perk 1: Scavenger Pro
- Means that I rarely run out of ammo or equipment
Perk 2: Stopping Power Pro
- Extra damage is always good.
Perk 3: Last Stand Pro
- Often very effective and annoys the enemy.
Death Streak: Martyrdom
I use this setup for close/medium range. For long range it's usually the FAL, M16 (overpowered like in COD4), or the M21 EBR thermal.
Killstreak rewards:
Usually, predator missile, Harriers, and AC130. I do vary them quite a lot though cos I'm trying to get all the killstreak challenges.
Lvl 57 now! I am wasting far too much time on this game.
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What's your favourite class build? The one you play most? And why the choice? Mine is:
Primary: M16A4 + Red Dot Sight
- M16 seems the best allround AR (makes nonsense of the later AR unlocks) and prefer the reddot to the holographic. Also the way it fires in bursts reminds me of Halo 3's Battle Rifle.
Secondary: Stinger
- only launcher with 2 rounds and makes sense to carry a launcher with my perks.
Equipment: Semtex
- prefer to frags, more predictable placement.
Special Grenade: Stun
- smoke is for those with thermal sights and flash doesn't slow movement so the enemy can still get a lucky kill in by spraying.
Perk 1: Marathon Pro
- fast!.
Perk 2: Cold Blooded Pro
- hard to see.
Perk 3: Ninja Pro
- hard to hear.
This combo of Perks mean aircraft mostly ignore you and is good for catching out campers. Suits my stealthy playing style.
Death Streak: Martyrdom (all the death streaks are pretty lame, but i've had a few kills from this one).
once iget here that's a near identical load for me... my AS choice being more auto...
damn, i need to get there... the arcade nature has wound me up. i aint never gonna prestige to go through this shite again
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I can't believe there's this much gaming energy around and it's not being expended shooting thousands of zombies with some mates :'(
I got into the first one and loved it but the 2nd didn't get a cert here (we have no R18 rating for games - how retarded).
Valve (in attempt to get it rapidly certed) utterly botched the censored version to a ridiculous extent. Now the gore has been nerfed so badly its almost a PG.
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I reckon the whole thing needs renaming Modern Welfare.
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I can't believe they kept in the Martydom perk. It is the worst thing about MW (along with the grenade launcher). It just defies gameplay, why should dying ever act as a benefit? Running into martyr explosions from people you haven't even killed or knifing someone in a confined space meaning you can't run away in time are both incredibly annoying and unfair.
All those using it can hang their heads in shame.
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I was just having a bit of fun over the weekend and had the vector with lightweight and marathon pro and rapid fire. My word does that annoy people! You're like roadrunner but with guns.
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Just encountered that stupid Javelin glitch for the first time online. Luckily it's getting patched soon.
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Just encountered that stupid Javelin glitch for the first time online. Luckily it's getting patched soon.
First time?? I reckon I've encountered hundreds of fuckwits doing it over the past few days, and what makes it more annoying is that I'm currently primarily using shotguns.
By the way, if you want fast exp, play Demolition. A good game will get you about 4000exp for kills + about 12000 exp for match bonus. It's also quite easy to get kills in because there are many noobs who consistly run blindly towards the targets. I'm lvl 70 now and still undecided about whether or not I want to prestige.
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Which platform are you on? Doesn't seem too rife on XBL yet.
Good tip on Demolition. I'm currently lvl 65 with 1.31 KDR.
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had my first really enjoyable session last night, that demolition tip was TOP.. the game mechanics / bonuses and generally the whole flow of the matches seems to suit this gaming style, I have yet to get to the 4000 a game.... but at least I now have the gun of the game - the P90 - and so I'm a very happy little MW2 saddo indeed.
dunno what you mean by the Javelin glitch, but i am getting a little pissed with good scores and killstreaks getting shut down by Nukes, by both sides.. doesnt seem appropriate to shorten games like this IMO.
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just checked out the javelin glitch... seems it will be short lived..
in retrospect I've seen it maybe a few times... XBL are being a bit harsh with the banning... yeah a few days maaayybeee... but nothing more as the hardened user / devotee will be gutted with just a few days off the game.. and after all the gamers are using code they paid for :shrug:
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The bans are good imo - stupid glitchers spoil real games. You need to learn that if you use them you get fucked.
They should be lucky it's only 2 weeks really - thousands have been permanently banned for Halo modding/glitching/etc in the past.
I prefer the UMP45 to the P90 Jon - works better for me.
Most overpowered weapon in the game? Akimbo 1887s - ridiculous!
Anyway, I've finally reached level 70 so I can have my life back again. Kept a KDR of 1.32 which is not bad considering I was mainly playing team deathmatch without a known team. With a good team it would have been much quicker and better KDR I suspect.
Doubt I'll bother with the Prestige Mode - what's the point of unlocking everything just to get it re-locked again? The only thing you get out of it is an extra class slot and a badge -fuck that. I'll probably try to find some other good players now to play competitive games with communication.
Have finished the campaign on Veteran but still have quite a few Spec-Ops to do on Veteran - they're pretty hard.
:off:
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Xtra class slot, that would be waaay useful after level 20 odd, didn't get that on cod4. In fact you could be in serious shit without it if everyone else has it.
That is a problem, as now there is a tenable reason to prestige.
Do you get a class addition every cycle? That would be a bit OTT IMO
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Yeah, you get another slot with each prestige - I'm good with 5 slots:
- AR + 1887s (tight maps, air cover not a problem)
- AR + Stingers (open maps, need to take down aircraft)
- Snipe + SMG (only use this on Wasteland really)
- LMG + Stinger (only use this on Derail and sometimes Afghan)
- SMG + 1887s (general FFA class and for Favela)
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Christ, that gives new found longevitity and a reason to neeed to keep on the game...
Just get clarity here. I don't understand yr abbreviations above ( sorry)
you don't get a bigger perk load out? Just more class slots??
What would be cool is a bigger perk load out after... Whatever..!
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Btw. The 90 really is a AR with sub speed. It's the favoured gun off cod4... Increases my kills by 10 per game on average
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Just get clarity here. I don't understand yr abbreviations above ( sorry)
Sorry :)
AR = Assault Rifle
1887s = 1887 shotguns unlocked at lvl 67 - they're sick powerful and will probably get patched
LMG = Light Machine Gun
SMG = Sub Machine Gun
FFA = Free For All
you don't get a bigger perk load out? Just more class slots??
Yeah, just slots. That said, I doubt anybody has got to Prestige 10 yet so you never know there may be something else.
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You also unlock new challanges and titles when you prestige. There are downsides though - I found out to my annoyance when you go back to a low level you get much less match bonus exp, when I was in the 60s I was getting over 10k exp per Demolition match easily, now I'm 1st prestige and lvl 20 I'd be lucky to get 4k.
I never play team deathmatch any more, it's just too brainless and often frustrating.
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Cool.
Have to say I'm with you in the demolition all the way, with team you could b very very good at this mode.
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Anyone who's tried Spec Ops on Veteran Solo will know how fucking hard it is, but check out this rather cheeky video - probably as hard to recreate this than to do it normally but very cool.
Modern Warfare 2: SOLO Spec Ops Body Count World Record 3.9 seconds. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufdJ-12UXvo&hd=1#)
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Javelin Glitch is now patched across all platforms.
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Javelin Glitch is now patched across all platforms.
And has been replaced by a new glitch. It seems that some people can now customise games in online matchmaking. I joined several games the other day with infinite ammo and no reloading. I also joined a game of Demolition that turned out to be 18 person free for all on Rust with an unlimited score limit. People on the PS3 can also hack their way to 10th prestige in a matter of minutes.
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well, firstly sounds like a 20,000 point piece of madness! is that on a ps3.. coz you cant normally modify anything of note on it..
10th prestige? what's the point? a few more class slots.. weird. unless it gives the point on your world ranking.. in whic case that's well bad.
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I guess really popular online games always take a while to iron everything out. Amazing what the glitch/modding community can find when they are unleashed.
Nearly tackled Spec-Ops on Veteran Solo, 3 levels left (apart from the 2 that need 2 players) - well 'ard!
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YYFY! Just finished all the solo Spec Ops on Veteran. Some of the most challenging single-player gaming I've done for years.
That leaves two missions that have to be done with 2 people. If anyone on XBL fancies doing them co-op on Veteran give me a shout.
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Just had my first online game. Got killed 13 times, and killed one person, not exactly Rambo.
This was in some Free for All thing. Most of the time I just got sniped or shot from behind which was a bit unsatisfactory - whats the best format game for a beginner? And whats the best weapon?
And is there a way of not hearing what I guess is the chatter of players with microphones?
Otherwise I'm enjoying the game - played CoD 4, 5 and 6 in the last few weeks as Norton lent me his 4 and 5 and then got 6 from Santa.
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FFA (Free For All) is probably the best gametype to start with. You don't have to worry about team tactics, just try to kill anything that moves.
Weapons is down to choice - I usually go with an Assault Rifle primary and a Sub-Machine Gun secondary. Just experiment and see what feels best.
There's no easy way to mute all players but you can mute individuals in the lobby and in game.
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plug a headset in and dont use it.
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whats the best format game for a beginner? And whats the best weapon?
I'd say go for (Mercenary) Team Deathmatch. If you do shoot your team mate, then they won't get hurt, but you will give away your locations on the map, but it does mean you've got half the people on the map trying to kill you rather than everyone! And there's always a chance one of your teammates will save your life. Plus you can follow everyone else and work out where's good to stand/crouch etc etc.
As far as weapons, I'd agree with Bubs. It can be so specific to the individual. When I play with Tom, we both play with a sub-machine gun as Primary, but he goes for a Mini-Uzi, and I go for something a fraction slower. If I use a Mini-Uzi, I turn too far when aiming, and miss the target. I'd def go for something with a high rate of fire (Sub-Machine Gun), and low accuracy. At first you want to run around, and get to know the level, so the chances are you're gonna be right in someone's face a lot of the time. Set up five different profiles, and see what suits.
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Also, once you get to know the maps better, you'll probably choose weapons to suit the maps too.
Eg for Highrise or Favela I use my "stabby" class which is a fast running/stealth class with a tactical knife - I basically sprint about stabbing people. On other, more open maps this would be suicide.
You might find you fall in love with sniping, or even master the Riot Shield.
That's one of the best things about this game, there's so many different ways to approach it.
Good tip on the mic Fatdoc...
A good resource for all things COD is here (http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Call_of_Duty_Wiki)
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Once you get a p90.. Sub with AR tendancies.. You'll use it loads.
Most popular cod 4 weapon..
I got into demolition, play your perks to gain xp and use a Lmg ( rpd)
to get a load of fast level ups.. Sweet.
I have now transiently left the ADHD zone of mw2 online to thrash through dragonage.. Christ, my life is taken. I'm a Mage and I'm lovin the vanquish and death... Gaming is soooo good!!!
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Cheers for the tips, I shall venture back online tonight.
P90 is good, but the UMG45 (?) is good too, and I'm partial to a bit of sniping where possible.
I got into demolition, play your perks to gain xp and use a Lmg ( rpd)
to get a load of fast level ups.. Sweet.
I have now transiently left the ADHD zone of mw2 online to thrash through dragonage.. Christ, my life is taken. I'm a Mage and I'm lovin the vanquish and death... Gaming is soooo good!!!
Now you see, I recognize some of the words, but have no idea what you are on about....
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Fuck knows why I Prestiged but after a dull grind back to 70 I can now confirm that there is no point in doing it whatsoever. Yeah, a new class slot is nice but it's not worth the hassle levelling up all over again.
If I wanted to grind XP like that then I'd go back to playing WoW.
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:agree:
For some reason I had it in my head that when you Prestige'd you could carry two main weapons as with COD4. However since this aint the case there is no point.
And your KDR tends to drop because you're back to using the poorer weapons, or maybe that's just me playing whilst :pissed:
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I just prestiged and I'm not sure why! :wall: Thought it might be fun to try out some new loadouts and discover hidden gems that I might have missed (like the RPD grip that I didn't use for too long before I realised it's amazing).
Need another game really, be arsed doing that grind again
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I'm just trying for some nukes now. Just got a 19 killstreak but still no nuke yet.
Also playing more Hardcore.
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Going to go for some Nukes too when I have the killstreaks unlocked. What are you going for? Harriers/Chopper Gunner/Nuke?
Enjoying Prestige'ing actually, do you get a 7th class slot if you go for a 2nd time?
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AC130 strikes look good from the ground as long as you aren't underneath one!
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Going to go for some Nukes too when I have the killstreaks unlocked. What are you going for? Harriers/Chopper Gunner/Nuke?
Enjoying Prestige'ing actually, do you get a 7th class slot if you go for a 2nd time?
You do indeed!!
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but you lose the Prestige titles like "The Silent" etc.? Think I'll get to 70 and try to get some nukes going. Just practicing getting my killstreaks to Pavelow which is low percentage enough at the moment. From what I hear though half the time if you can get to harriers, they'll get you the chopper gunner and that'll get you to like 20 or so.
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Harriers? Nukes? Bloody hell, I was chuffed enough last night to be give my first Sentry Gun for a killstreak.
I did also get my running badge too though, not surprising really seeing as I spend most of my time running back to the action from Spawn sites!
Great game.
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I find chopper gunner a bit hit and miss. You can rack up 5-10 kills quickly but if the opposition have launchers i find it can be short lived. AC130 all the way which i think you get for the same number of kills.
I use Predator missiles, Pavelow and AC130. Seems to work pretty well. If i was going for the Nuke i would swap it for the predator missile! Simples 8)
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What are you going for? Harriers/Chopper Gunner/Nuke?
I find chopper gunner a bit hit and miss. You can rack up 5-10 kills quickly but if the opposition have launchers i find it can be short lived. AC130 all the way which i think you get for the same number of kills.
I use Predator missiles, Pavelow and AC130. Seems to work pretty well. If i was going for the Nuke i would swap it for the predator missile! Simples 8)
Normally I use Predator / Harriers / Pave Low
Going for nukes I'm trying Harriers / AC130 / Nuke
AC130 is much harder to shoot down than the helicopters.
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Normally I use Predator / Harriers / Pave Low
Going for nukes I'm trying Harriers / AC130 / Nuke
AC130 is much harder to shoot down than the helicopters.
Do you use Hardline to reduce the kills required?
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I've been trying a class with Hardline but I'm so used to Cold-Blooded now I keep just getting killed all the time :)
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Just got my first Nuke without Hardline using Harrier/AC-130/Nuke.
Went 43 kills, 4 assists to 8 deaths in a game of ground war domination on Scrapyard.
Quite funny - wait until your team is about to lose then hit the button.
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i got an xbox with mw2 for xmas. first console in 12 years. last week i got plugged into xbox live.
it is life changing eh? couple of mates from work play as well. falling asleep the other night images of crouching men with guns kept flashing in front of my mind.
despite the enjoyment it certainly feels regressive. do you get guilt? i had to punish myself on the turbo trainer for an extra 10 minutes.
assume halo3 is the next game to get for online shooting.
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Whenever I see a plane fly overhead I think "UAV!"
Noob-tube + Scavenger needs nerfing. I resisted it for a while but can now tube with the best of them - one shot kills from huge range...not very skillful.
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Never really been fussed by people using the grenade launcher to be honest!! It can get frustrating on scrapyard when someone manages to hit where your team spawns and racks up a few kills virtually before the game has even started!
I only tend to use it so i can complete the challenge and unlock the shotgun attachment!!
Its all about the red dot sight and the silencer on assault rifles!!
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I wouldn't be fussed by it if ammo was more limited but if you carry an AR with launcher, a Thumper as secondary weapon and use the Scavenger Perk then you've pretty much got a non-stop supply of one hit kill 'nades. Just makes a mockery of most other guns as you don't need to be that accurate with it to get kills.
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I wouldn't be fussed by it if ammo was more limited but if you carry an AR with launcher, a Thumper as secondary weapon and use the Scavenger Perk then you've pretty much got a non-stop supply of one hit kill 'nades. Just makes a mockery of most other guns as you don't need to be that accurate with it to get kills.
I imagine that you wouldn't have enjoyed being in this particular game, although I did:
Modern Warfare 2: infinite ammo glitch + AC130 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KfoD0txZGI#)
I uploaded that video a month ago, and it's already got 163k views!
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I guess that'd be fun for like one game :)
You on PC? Luckily glitchers/griefers get banned really fast on XBL.
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You on PC? Luckily glitchers/griefers get banned really fast on XBL.
I was on xbox360 playing a public online Demolition game. I doubt I'll get banned (it's been 5 weeks since and I haven't so far), and I just chanced upon the glitch when joining a random match - for several days in December the likelihood of joining an infinite ammo game was quite high. I did exploit it a bit though, staying in that lobby got me all the 'danger close' perk challenges in a couple of hours.
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Ah, if you just joined the game then you're probably safe, whereas the modder might get a ban. I notice that the "fast running" glitch is no longer about and they haven't patched the game so I can only assume bans have been handed out.
Sorry for being a killjoy but after the awful days of Halo 2 modders my sense of humour for this sort of thing ran out.
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packed in the PC version due to a massive amount of people hacking, am on XBL now if anyone is keen: deityofheresy
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I've added you - i'm "Veiny Spear" - I'm on at weird times of day though.
How's it been going from mouse/keyboard to a controller?
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Ah I wondered who veiny spear was, I had you on my friends list from before it seems. The transition is getting better, I was really struggling with it at the start but starting to get the hang of it now a bit more. The autolock on thing is quite knacky I guess and people play the game very differently on the Xbox to on the PC. Did you try the badcompany 2 demo?
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Worst thing now is combination of one man army, danger close and any grenade launcher....unlimited, massively explosive grenades :wall:
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YYFY! Just finished all the solo Spec Ops on Veteran. Some of the most challenging single-player gaming I've done for years.
That leaves two missions that have to be done with 2 people. If anyone on XBL fancies doing them co-op on Veteran give me a shout.
Did this feww eeks back before the bamino arrived, agreed it is VERY challenging......bizzarely i found the last set fairly easy, it was the bloody airplane graveyard thing the hardest, took me ages with juggernauts torching me at the last moment. Almost did the main campaign on veeran but with time limitations now I am playing just on line. Still learning but got my first 15 kill streak other day
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I'm stuck in the slums/Favela on campaign mode - any tips?
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If you're in the bit I'm thinking of just take it slowly and take out anyone on the rooftops before trying to move up.
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If you're in the bit I'm thinking of just take it slowly and take out anyone on the rooftops before trying to move up.
Thanks. I was going too quickly and getting battered.. That worked a treat. It's a good level.
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Worst thing now is combination of one man army, danger close and any grenade launcher....unlimited, massively explosive grenades
Thought I'd try this - quite good :)
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Actually, this has now formed the back of my "get nukes!" strategy. I'm on 3 nukes atm but want to get the nice 10 nuke emblem.
I have 3 near identical classes, all have:
- M16 + grenade launcher
- Claymores
- Stun Grenade
- One Man Army
- Commando Pro
The differences like in the 2nd Perk.
- "Boom" has Danger Close Pro
- "Boom Cold" has Cold Blooded Pro
- "Boom Hard" has Hardline Pro
The default class is "Boom" as it's the best for dishing out damage and you just switch to the same class for endless ammo and 2 claymores all the time.
If the enemy summon an aircraft, I switch to "Boom Cold" so they don't see me.
When I'm 2 away from a killstreak reward, I switch to "Boom Hard" which means I'll only need one more kill to get the streak.
Cheap but effective :)
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clever... very.
nice one.
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Not really my ideas - cobbled it together from the COD Wikia's One Man Army page (http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/One_Man_Army) :)
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nice idea for those perks, I might try something similar without the nubtubs. Still finding accurate aiming really hard on the controller (went up to high sensitivity which I think helped), but got my kdr up over 1 so I guess it's improving! Good luck on them nukes. Would switiching to DC pro before you jump on your killstreaks increase your kills as well, I know the AC130 and predator benefits from the DCpro
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Yes, definitely use DC with the AC-130, makes a big difference. Just got killed 1 short of a nuke - quite annoying!
I stay with a low sensitivity, find it much easier to get accurate shots, though a bit slower to move about obviously. It's a lesson learned from Halo 3 pros - they all use surprisingly low sensitivity for accuracy.
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I'll give that a go then thanks, on the PC I got stopped on a 24 killstreak twice, once by a lucker grenade and once by the match ending :(
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Nice one on the low sensitivity tip, only had a couple of games under 2:0 KDR since I switched!
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Nice one - a lot of folks turn it way up so they can turn fast but they can't aim. I'm on "medium" which is 2 out of 10. It means you lose out in a knife fight but that's only a small part of the game so it's a decent trade-off.
10 must be ridiculous.
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Definitely made a huge difference to me! Got 3 chopper gunners in 3 games as soon as I made the switch, feels more controlled than a mouse/keyboard now. Using the AUG so it may just suit the range of the gun I guess as like you say, you lose out a bit at close range. Will try help you on some nukes if you're around sometime in the week
Surely it's not possible to play with it on 10, I had to use the RPD just spray everything when it was on 5
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Have you tried these?
http://www.kontrolfreek.com/Game-Controller-Accessories/KontrolFreek-FPS-Freek.asp (http://www.kontrolfreek.com/Game-Controller-Accessories/KontrolFreek-FPS-Freek.asp)
I got given some as a present and at first I thought they were a bit gimmicky but they actually work really well at high sensitivity levels (as long as you've got a decent sized pair of mitts). I use them on GOW2 all the time and am pretty beastly with the sniper now on high. I only use one on the look stick.
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Interesting, do look gimicyk I guess. Do a lot of people use them?
Do they sell them in the UK? I tried googling but nothing came up, not sure if they have a proper name
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Yeah - they sell them at Lime here:
http://www.limexb360.co.uk/manufacturer/Kontrol+Freek,i.html (http://www.limexb360.co.uk/manufacturer/Kontrol+Freek,i.html)
Mine were got directly from the States apparently. The idea of lengthening the stick makes sense and was a bit weird to start with but once you get used to them they work pretty well. They seem to sponsor a few of the MLG guys but reading some of the reviews, some people like them and some don't rate them at all so they obviously don't suit everyone.
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I bought the sticks and still using them with lowest sensitivity my KDR has gone up to 1.44 (I think) with them. It makes a clear difference to your accuracy but I still like the lowest sensitivity. I usually try avoid close-range fights where you have the disadvantage with a low sensitivity.
I saw a recommendation that you should creep up your sensitivity over time, as if you can maintain you accuracy you will only do better, but I can't be bothered.
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I've started to play the online mode and whilst its great fun I'm really not very good at it all :-[ everyone else playing is so silent, quick and accurate. My killcams are hilarious with me either rooted to the spot shooting everywhere or me thinking I'm being stealthy when I'm stood in an open doorway about to get knifed or shot by someone bloody miles away.
I've been playing the open deathmatch (or whatever its called - the free for all anyway) and am getting 2 or 3 kills each game.
Any tips or pointers to resources on the net that will help me improve and enjoy it a bit more?
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If you're not accurate try lower sensitivity, my KDR went from 0.76 to 1.30 in a week or so after changing sensitivity. If it's still a problem try the RPD (grip attachment necessary) and just spray to get kills, I definitely found it a useful gun when getting used to xbox controllers.
Never run round corners and never chase people, you'll die everytime. Most of the time if you kill someone they're coming right back for you so keep on the move between the safe spots you'll work out as you play more.
Once you are pretty accurate and know your guns it's basically about learning how each map works and where people are likely to be, it's really hard to do that on FFA. Even on Team Deathmatch people can start spawning behind you and it's hard to keep up with where everyone is. I find Demolition or Domination is the best because after a short while you will have a good idea of the map and how people play it. You also get good XP for Demolition
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Thanks - that's helped a lot.
Fatboyslimfast - What's your gamer tag? Perhaps it's coincidence but there was a SlimboyFat43 or someone running in the same deathmatch as me (FallingDown23) last night...
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He's on PSN, not XBL, assuming you're on XBL FD?
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Yeah XBL FallingDown23
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will add you FD - i Entropic i
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I'll add you guys but tbh I'm usually on at 3am or some stupid time like that at the moment
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Thanks guys - you can use me to draw fire and reveal the locations of your enemies. Just remember to duck when I start shooting.
I read this thread last night and then went and played a couple of hours of demolition - really good fun and better than the random death-from-nowhere in FFA or Team Deathmatch.
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Yeah XBL FallingDown23
Can't find that gamertag?
Map pack should be out the end of March (http://gamingdead.com/2010/03/15/modern-warfare-2-stimulus-pack-details-emerge)
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Bought this recently on a rec from Bubb's. I found the campaign mode to be pretty dull but special ops and online (Xbox live) are awesome (unlike me).
My KD ratio is appalling and I think I went down the wrong route; I used Sub-machine guns throughout and now I have the vector with thermal sight and it just seems a bit mismatched.
Whats everyone else rolling with?
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I'm a noob-tuber atm in my continuing quest for more nukes. So, ACR primary (great assault rifle, zero recoil) with grenade launcher, and "danger close" perk to get more bang for my buck. People hate me for it but I don't care :)
Anyone think the BF2 multiplayer is better than MW2? I've heard good things about it.
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Played the BF2 demo quite a bit, it looks good more role orientated than MW2. A bit more like WoW's tank, dps, healer set up which works quite nicely. My friends have given good feedback from it so may pick it up today and try it out I guess. Thing I'm worried about is that it's reliant on having a coordinated team, rather than MW2 that you can play a more solo game.
That ACR/DC/OMA was the set up I used to go for my nukes, I got 3 then decided it would be more fun to prestige and get into quick scoping; as effective as noob tubing is, it's not a very satisfying way to get kill streaks!
Vector/thermal is a very odd choice! I normally use the UMP, but might try the vector/silencer this prestige. Running it with scavenger/stopping power/commando on maps like Scrapyard.
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I bought BFBC2.
Single player, though a bit short is way better than MW2 - feels less obviously corridored (though of course it still is) but it just feels better to play. Usual USA vs those pesky Ruskis storyline, rather cliched but whatever. Played it through on "normal" and it was a bit easy so have started again on "hard" and it's much better, you can't just charge about.
The MP is totally different to MW2. The slayer style game is ok, but it's all a bit too open - I miss the claustrophobia and close combat that you get with MW2 or the smaller H3 maps. The other game types are massive, epic battles. Good fun in their own way but I'm still undecided whether it's a keeper - need to give it more time really.
The squad setup, assault (general assault rifle slayer) / engineer (taking out & repairing vehicles) / medic (fixing other players) / recon (sniper) is quite interesting and with a good team would probably offer some very rewarding gameplay.
As you say, you are a little reliant on random players, e.g. I've only been healed by a medic once so far. I'm still playing a pretty solo game as an assault player, just to get a general feel for things and tbh that's my favourite way to play. Once I've got some reasonable guns, etc I'll try the other classes too.
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Forgot to say, BC2 runs on dedicated servers rather than the p2p systems of MW2/H3/etc. This makes for pretty much no lag, although of course we still get out-shot by the yanks as I suspect (not entirely sure) that the servers will be all US based.
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Did anyone get the new maps? Any good?
I've not played MW2 since I started on BC2, but just wondering whether they are worth getting.
I'm kind of preferring BC2 at the moment. It's more tactical, though I do miss the close quarters combat of MW2.
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New maps are OK but I guess it's hard to tell having only played a few hours on them. The COD4 maps are probably the best of the pack.
Two of the maps are quite linear, more like scrapyard than Afgan. At the moment, I'd say they were average maps, not as good as the majority from the original release. Annoyingly the double XP only applies to the new maps played on the "Stimulus" playlist which means you have to play stuff like CTF. I'm not sure you can even get the new maps on the other playlists either. To be fair, the games of domination and demolition I played on the new maps were all good, so my opinion on the new maps could be soiled by having to play game types I don't normally enjoy on them.
Couldn't tell what the OMA nerf was, but I think they might just have added a second to the switching time, you still get a full load out and can still have 2 claymores with it etc.
I tried BC2 but really couldn't get into the game play as a sniper. The parallel levelling annoyed me as well, that as the recon class, going into vehicles or even knife kills were just wasting time from levelling to get better sniper rifles. Marksman headshots were pretty cool, having turret machine guns next to spawns wasn't.
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I've added you - i'm "Veiny Spear" - I'm on at weird times of day though.
How's it been going from mouse/keyboard to a controller?
I'm on under Bennp2000
but if all of this glitching bollocks continues I'm going to part-ex for something else. Unlimitied care packages. Weird running at the speed of light. Bubb's says they get banned quickly but its not hapenning quick enough for my liking.
BC2 might be the way to go I feel.
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pretty sure all the glitching has been stopped now, certainly the care package glitches were patched out a while ago.
New maps are growing on me now I've played more games on them.
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the running at the speed of light was the worst and it was still going yesterday.
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I tried BC2 but really couldn't get into the game play as a sniper. The parallel levelling annoyed me as well, that as the recon class, going into vehicles or even knife kills were just wasting time from levelling to get better sniper rifles. Marksman headshots were pretty cool, having turret machine guns next to spawns wasn't.
I'm pretty converted now. To be a rounded player you need to level all four classes anyway really so you can switch roles within your squad as the battle dictates. I've unlocked everything for all classes now - it took a while but then I was on holiday with a knackered ankle :)
The intensity of some of the games is amazing, and the audio puts MW2 to shame. All in all it's better balanced imo, there's nothing like a nuke and the limited spawns system encourages people to think about their play. Now I've levelled everything I've got to find some other people to form a squad.
One downside is I don't hear much communication going on, but most people are still frantically levelling classes. There also seems to be a predominance of recon players who just sit at the back of the map and snipe which is pretty boring.