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the shizzle => equipment => Topic started by: Ally Smith on July 11, 2019, 01:02:36 pm
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I'm wondering if anyone has experience of cordless "jobsite" fans and could provide some recommendations for good buys or ones to avoid?
Annoyingly, the cordless drill I own (DeWalt) don't import their offering to the UK, so I'll probably end up needing a new battery/charger, so there is also a consideration for total cost rather than the fan unit alone.
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Wondering the same. makita ones seem what people have but fan battery and chargers looks like north of £200 😱
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I got a Makita. Haven't used it enough yet to justify the money, mainly due to injury niggles. But it will hopefully last for years, ie. a lot longer than a pair of brand new climbing shoes, which is roughly what it costs.
If you shop around, you can get fan + charger + battery for a touch under £150.
For me, the choice seemed to be between the Makita (plastic but fairly solid, very portable) and the Metabo (metal, more powerful but heavier and bulkier, and a bit more expensive). I hate carrying heavy things to the crag, so went for lightweight.
Makita - https://www.powertoolworld.co.uk/makita-dcf201zw-18v-lxt-cordless-fan-white-body-only?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_MDWodfF4gIV5pXtCh2R_QZ-EAQYASABEgL63fD_BwE
Metabo - https://www.metabo.com/uk/en/tools/cordless-tools/cordless-fans/av-18-606176850-cordless-fan.html
I've heard rave reviews about both of these.
Chatted to a friend the other day who uses his Makita regularly on limestone. He said "It keeps a wet hold damp after 10min." :lol: This is a big improvement apparently. He reckons it's also great for keeping midges away.
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Thanks R-man. Midge control an important consideration for summer lime!
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Nice one Rman. What battery do you have - and does it charge in the fan if the fans plugged in or do you need the additional charger etc... 👍👍
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Battery is the BL1850
I was told you need the charger, so I haven't tried without. Charger is the DC18RC.
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Shopping around today I found the fan body (think it’s same) for £54
https://www.lawson-his.co.uk/makita-bcf201zw-18v-144v-240v-lxt-portab-p145997?gclid=CjwKCAjw36DpBRAYEiwAmVVDMIZyOeENjmzcjTG_k05tqoiCaRIeeT-P0UFVtHlTgwJe7wUPTttA9RoCihEQAvD_BwE
And on amazon you can get copy 5ah batteries for £25-28 and a clone charger for sim money.
I might go this way - charger isn’t much less than makita one so get that but I doubt I’ll use thre battery enough for a potentially better quality genuine one to make a difference. Brings it down to closer to £100...
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And on amazon you can get copy 5ah batteries for £25-28 and a clone charger for sim money.
In case you weren't aware, using 3rd party batteries voids Makita's warranty.
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Ryobi R18F-0 18V ONE+ Cordless Fan, 18 V, Hyper Green https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01DNU4MD4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_oLxlDbQX149K1 (http://Ryobi R18F-0 18V ONE+ Cordless Fan, 18 V, Hyper Green https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01DNU4MD4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_oLxlDbQX149K1)
I just bought this one. Probably not as powerful as the others but a lighter option for people who carry 3 pads about. I picked up the charger and a battery from another site for about £50. Seems decent enough.
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https://www.lawson-his.co.uk/makita-bcf201zw-18v-144v-240v-lxt-portab-p145997?gclid=CjwKCAjw36DpBRAYEiwAmVVDMIZyOeENjmzcjTG_k05tqoiCaRIeeT-P0UFVtHlTgwJe7wUPTttA9RoCihEQAvD_BwE
Is this another Lawson business venture? I look forward to another instagram account :lol:
The small Makita fans are light and a good design for carrying and tilting, however, they aren't that powerful. Good to keep your skin cool before try's but they don't really produce a lot of air movement (maybe in a dingy limestone cave).
I think these look the best, however can't find them in the UK!
https://www.amazon.com/Geek-Aire-Rechargeable-Performance-Recharging/dp/B078PBRD68
Next year as BD's April Fools joke, I think they should make a fan with an ice bucket behind it so it blows ice cold air onto you.
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How long til people start using full industrial fans (like at the Foundry) run from sacks of leisure batteries in their van and a 100m extension cable?
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Might be shite.....?
https://www.aldi.co.uk/18v-li-ion-cordless-fan/p/014031276173400
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Might be shite.....?
https://www.aldi.co.uk/18v-li-ion-cordless-fan/p/014031276173400
Good spot. Comes with two batteries but I suspect no charger....
For anyone with a Ryobi one plus battery - Homebase have the ryobi fan at £22... less than half price.
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Ok. I’ve taken the plunge and got myself a fan battery combo for (drumroll....) £45.98.
Some intense googling led to... an ozito (??) fan from Homebase £21 looks similar to the makita folding one. 5 year warranty apparently....
https://www.homebase.co.uk/ozito-power-x-change-18v-cordless-fan-skin_p389390
And a power X 3ah battery and fast charger combo (compatible) from toolstation for £24.98
https://www.toolstation.com/einhell-power-x-change-18v-li-ion-battery-charger/p13525?store=GR&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=googleshoppingfeed&gclid=CjwKCAjw67XpBRBqEiwA5RCocfQ-z8-3UlRwSrwA5gxLU-qk5UewNo_jvvip479bkbNCAD0lQpwpUxoCdt4QAvD_BwE
Been and picked them up and it all works fine.
Positives. Fan folds flat - see second pic - and it’s well light. Easy slip inside a boulder mat. All seems to work ok and it’s bloody cheap.
Negatives - well there’s no mains power lead for the fan alone - it’s just battery. But that’s no real problem for me. Also - I am now tempted to buy some power tools to go with the battery 😂
No Idea how well it performs compared to Makita ones - but it’s dishing out a decent amount of air now.
I also got a gadget from Homebase to turn the battery into a USB power supply for £6 (makita ones were 15...).
Edit - speed specs are 3.3 and 5 m/s air speed (on the fan not the web)
https://imgur.com/gallery/j9swUuX
(https://i.imgur.com/xoPTmwn.jpg)
https://imgur.com/gallery/4gLRvp0
(https://i.imgur.com/MmTU0rz.jpg)
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Sorry - replied instead of modified... ignore
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Nice. Third of the price of a Makita, worth a go. Makita says 120m/min on the website. So 2m/s? Slower than yours according to the numbers.
Next time we meet up, we can compare. If we put them both on skateboards, we can race them...
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Next time we meet up, we can compare. If we put them both on skateboards, we can race them...
:D I'll oil my trucks in preparation...
Just doing a run time test now....
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Ok so with the 3ah battery, on full power the ozito fan lasted 1hour 55min.
I’d have liked a wee bit longer but seeing as most of my lime sessions rarely last more than 90 min that should be ample (would you really want it on all the time you were there??). I’d imagine running on the slow setting would more than double that.
Other points about it.
Fan plus 3ah battery weigh 2.4kg.
If you get a larger battery it may well stick out the bottom and make it sit a bit awkwardly. Not tried that but suspect that’s the case. The makita has the battery above the base - this one as in the pics is part of the bottom.
Anyway. In general very happy.
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I love how this thread is living up to its dual interpretation name. Its simultaneously a place to discuss the best battery powered devices that blow air, and a place for aficionados of cordless devices to gather :lol:
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Is there a band called cordless ?
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That's all very well TT but I need some real numbers, how many letter grades can I expect to go up with yours vs the Makita? Which is best for blowing smoke up my own arse, or getting that Windzwepttm look?
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I love how this thread is living up to its dual interpretation name. Its simultaneously a place to discuss the best battery powered devices that blow air, and a place for aficionados of cordless devices to gather :lol:
I was expecting appreciation of the direct finish to Cosmopolitan.
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Which is best for blowing smoke up my own arse, or getting that Windzwepttm look?
Cordless leaf blower's what you want for that.
:)
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I reckon you might be onto something with a leaf blower...surely for directional air flow (e.g. onto a particular hold) there's nothing better?!
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I reckon you might be onto something with a leaf blower...surely for directional air flow (e.g. onto a particular hold) there's nothing better?!
Good for keeping the mats clean too 😃
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There’s surely got to be a point in all this where you just think “you know what, it would be a lot easier to just climb routes for the hottest couple of months of the year”. ;)
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There’s surely got to be a point in all this where you just think “you know what, it would be a lot easier to just climb routes for the hottest couple of months of the year”. ;)
Nope :D
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There’s surely got to be a point in all this where you just think “you know what, it would be a lot easier to just climb routes for the hottest couple of months of the year”. ;)
:sick:
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There’s surely got to be a point in all this where you just think “you know what, it would be a lot easier to just climb routes for the hottest couple of months of the year”. ;)
I took mine to Kilnsey tonight as ones the only fucker not getting bitten to death by midges!!!!
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There’s surely got to be a point in all this where you just think “you know what, it would be a lot easier to just climb routes for the hottest couple of months of the year”. ;)
Nonsense. Routes are such faff with loads of gear. All you need for bouldering is boots and a chalk bag. OK, maybe 3-4 pairs of boots and a chalk bucket. And a mat of course. Best make that two or three mats in case there's a sketchy landing, and a small mat to start sitting off. Oh, don't forget thirteen different kinds of brush for every hold type. Then of course, a brush on a stick too. You'll need a ladder to reach the final moves obviously. Not forgetting the liquid chalk and sandpaper for good skin care. A foam roller and other self-massaging implements are necessary to keep your body in good shape. Enough food to last the day/feed a small army. Various down jackets/windproofs/hoodies/waterproofs for those changing weather conditions, all stuffed into your mat. And now a fan too, of course. Strap everything together with luggage straps, and you're good to go! Far less gear than routes...
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Lamps, you forgot the lamps for those primo afterdark conditions.
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Andy, how on earth do you warm up without a Theraband and portable fingerboard? I could never be as minimalist as you........
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How are you even going to consider starting to warm up without first making a coffee
with your stove and stove top espresso maker. Essential bouldering gear right there
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You forgot your portable fingerboard.
(Oops beaten to it)
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Ok. I’ve taken the plunge and got myself a fan battery combo for (drumroll....) £45.98.
Thanks for doing the legwork on this TT. I've shamelessly and whole-heartedly copied you. Will hopefully at least make summer fingerboard sessions more pleasant!
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👍👍 I know of three others who’ve done the same - might be a run on these in Homebase 😂
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I'm afraid Leeds residents will now need to drive to Harrogate for their nearest stock :lol:
Also noticed a leaf blower that uses the same battery for £20. Tempting...
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Also noticed a leaf blower that uses the same battery for £20. Tempting...
I thought it was tiny!
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https://imgur.com/gallery/GccLC65
😂
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I reckon you might be onto something with a leaf blower...surely for directional air flow (e.g. onto a particular hold) there's nothing better?!
Good for keeping the mats clean too 😃
Wow, finally an actual use for a leaf blower!
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I know summer season is coming to an end however I have just picked up one of the Aldi fans listed earlier in the thread (https://www.aldi.co.uk/18v-li-ion-cordless-fan/p/014031276173400) as the local has them reduced to £29.99. Only 9inch diameter so not as large as some of the others, it does come with two batteries though and a charging cable so seems good value at the price. Thought I would post in case anyone hasn't bought one yet and was after a cheap option.
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Ok. I’ve taken the plunge and got myself a fan battery combo for (drumroll....) £45.98.
Some intense googling led to... an ozito (??) fan from Homebase £21 looks similar to the makita folding one. 5 year warranty apparently....
https://www.homebase.co.uk/ozito-power-x-change-18v-cordless-fan-skin_p389390
And a power X 3ah battery and fast charger combo (compatible) from toolstation for £24.98
https://www.toolstation.com/einhell-power-x-change-18v-li-ion-battery-charger/p13525?store=GR&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=googleshoppingfeed&gclid=CjwKCAjw67XpBRBqEiwA5RCocfQ-z8-3UlRwSrwA5gxLU-qk5UewNo_jvvip479bkbNCAD0lQpwpUxoCdt4QAvD_BwE
Been and picked them up and it all works fine.
Positives. Fan folds flat - see second pic - and it’s well light. Easy slip inside a boulder mat. All seems to work ok and it’s bloody cheap.
Negatives - well there’s no mains power lead for the fan alone - it’s just battery. But that’s no real problem for me. Also - I am now tempted to buy some power tools to go with the battery 😂
No Idea how well it performs compared to Makita ones - but it’s dishing out a decent amount of air now.
I also got a gadget from Homebase to turn the battery into a USB power supply for £6 (makita ones were 15...).
Edit - speed specs are 3.3 and 5 m/s air speed (on the fan not the web)
https://imgur.com/gallery/j9swUuX
(https://i.imgur.com/xoPTmwn.jpg)
https://imgur.com/gallery/4gLRvp0
(https://i.imgur.com/MmTU0rz.jpg)
Noticed the Ozito fans were down to £33 at Homebase yesterday. Not as cheap as last year but if you can get the battery/charger combo cheap too then it’s a good deal. Mines getting plenty of use by my woodie at the moment (and still doing fine after a year)
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Screwfix do an excellent wired one for £35 which is really good if you dont need cordless capacity.
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Screwfix do an excellent wired one for £35 which is really good if you dont need cordless capacity.
In the fan geekery dept. these:
https://www.cleva-uk.com/products/vacmaster-air-mover
(or similar) seem to be a firm favourite with those who use Trainerroad to suffer train. I've only come across them abroad when the plumbing went wrong and a house needed a serious amount of drying out.
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Only for anyone with an Ozito fan already - wickes are doing some Einhell cordless tools with a free 3ah battery and charger... the pick (for me) was this reciprocating saw for £47 - battery and charger worth at least £30... spare battery for a snip if you need any other cordless tools. They had strimmers/drills etc as well in the deal.
https://www.wickes.co.uk/Einhell-TE-AP-18-Li-Solo-18V-Cordless-Reciprocating-All-Purpose-Saw---Bare/p/207902
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I know summer season is coming to an end however I have just picked up one of the Aldi fans listed earlier in the thread (https://www.aldi.co.uk/18v-li-ion-cordless-fan/p/014031276173400) as the local has them reduced to £29.99. Only 9inch diameter so not as large as some of the others, it does come with two batteries though and a charging cable so seems good value at the price. Thought I would post in case anyone hasn't bought one yet and was after a cheap option.
Wondered if you had any feedback on this? Were you blown away by it?
Or if there’s any other up-to-date knowledge on fans ... ?
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It has been a great fan for using on my garage wall. Plenty of power and battery lasts a couple of hours on full power (usually keep the other battery on charge and just switch straight out when it dies). Also great value when I got it for £30, possibly not such a deal now it is £50 and other options maybe available at this price point.
Only minor compliant compared to some of the other more expensive options is that it doesn't fold flat so I have to strap it to the outside of my pads and it is a bit bulky whereas some of the Makita ones etc go flat and can pushed inside a pad. Something to think about depending upon walk ins.
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Are these things useful in any way for improving conditions. I don't expect for an entire crag, maybe for getting the seaside greasiness (what Capetonians call shlauk) from the occasional crucial hold in a shady niche?
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I have the Ozito fan thanks to TTs recommendation. It's been brilliant, makes a real difference for bouldering throughout the year.
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Nice one, thanks. Funnily enough I need a new cordless drill (and could get Makita + batteries), but I'll probably get a Dewalt one and I'm looking at the Aldi fan for the garage, mainly.
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I have the Ozito fan thanks to TTs recommendation. It's been brilliant, makes a real difference for bouldering throughout the year.
I like the look of these, but they seem limited to eBay now.
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My other recommendation for a garage board is a fan heater (for example https://www.toolstation.com/2kw-space-heater/p92761?store=W1&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=googleshoppingfeed&gclid=CjwKCAiAgc-ABhA7EiwAjev-j9pGm8Le6oQGi_cKZ-edumhlxnxWoVNHMVT7je5qs2YRl3XIRkLUeRoC8gMQAvD_BwE). This has made such a difference to my sessions this winter improving both conditions on the holds and general psyche as I can now often end up in a t shirt at the end of a session whereas in previous years I would have been huddled in my down jacket with cold hands. Have the fan running to move the air around on one side and the fan heater at the back of the garage for taking the edge off the air temperature and giving me something to sit in front of between goes.
As for conditions outside I find it does help on those in between days we often get in the UK when things are climbable but not in good condition. Also it is great for keeping the midges at bay on a summers evening...
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I have the Ozito fan thanks to TTs recommendation. It's been brilliant, makes a real difference for bouldering throughout the year.
I like the look of these, but they seem limited to eBay now.
I’ve been watching Ozito prices like Pete watches Australian gold mine investments ;)
I think they’ve stopped making them, and Homebase stopped stocking them. There was a week in Oct/Nov when everything ozito was 70% off in Homebase (inc drills and fans) and the stock disappeared rapidly.
There’s an Aldi - Lidl one that pops up every now and then - worth keeping an eye out for come summer time. Though - a quick look on alibaba shows they’re all made by the same companies in china just packed in the right colour/battery config for whoever wants them...
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Nice one, thanks. Funnily enough I need a new cordless drill (and could get Makita + batteries), but I'll probably get a Dewalt one and I'm looking at the Aldi fan for the garage, mainly.
Do you need cordless? People seem to favour air-movers when sitting on turbos.
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Nice one, thanks. Funnily enough I need a new cordless drill (and could get Makita + batteries), but I'll probably get a Dewalt one and I'm looking at the Aldi fan for the garage, mainly.
Do you need cordless? People seem to favour air-movers when sitting on turbos.
Yeah, for now. No power in the garage and getting it sorted is all tied up in some possible electrical work as part of kitchen/house stuff in the summer. Would rather not do it twice.
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Maybe borrow one for winter? Sure they won’t be needed until April/may. If I were closer you’d be welcome to mine.
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Cheers. Could do. Not 100% sure I need one yet. Decent session in there tonight.
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Just seen this thread for the first time and I'm disappointed to find that it's not about sharing love for 1st gen bouldering pads and yellow Bruce Lee t-shirts.
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:agree:
Even though the title's tricked me into clicking on this thread before, the disappointment's always the same. I still have my Cordless. It gets use from time to time. I should get new foam as the cover's still great even with one or two little holes and some pulled stitching.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSx9dilD58VoXc8PJvzM1wtbEeBvL4LW3eaWw&usqp=CAU)
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I have a Cordless shoulder bag which I still use regularly as an overnight bag. It’s one of the best-designed and well-made pieces of gear I’ve ever owned.
I also have a Makita fan which I’ve used once.
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Had quick search on here and couldn't find any info, so here's a new thread/ question.
Anyone use a portable fan to cool fingers at the crag? If so, any reasonable priced recommendations?
Cheers
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https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,30145.msg587049.html#msg587049
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Ta!
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For Daddlylonglegs..
The Aldi/Lidl ones might be a good option - only on eBay now, but £40-45 for fan and battery...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ferrex-18V-Li-Ion-Cordless-Fan-with-2-Batteries-and-Charger-BNIB-GYM-WORKSHOP-/254944268860?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286
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Topics merged
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On the Aldi website they have their one with two batteries and charger for less than fifty at the moment.
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Nie that good weather had arrived it’s a bit horrible on our board. It’s inside the house and the window to the room gets sun from about 1pm until 8pm.
It’s making sessions awful!
A friend brought a small travel fan this weekend which made a massive difference and I was wondering if anyone could recommend one for indoors?
We hung his in the open window. Could go for cordless (plenty of Makita batteries here) or for something wired.
Room is about 5x3m so not a massive space to push air around.
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This one. Absolute gamechanger for my fingerboard sessions.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/hf-45b-18-industrial-floor-fan-220-240v/754HY?tc=DA6&ds_kid=92700055281954508&ds_rl=1249404&gclid=Cj0KCQjwzYGGBhCTARIsAHdMTQymAhqs7wfT7amy4mnr3SZuNR8aiEyI5Ll5xEjRu61WP5QZ46cKzXsaAmPjEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
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If you’ve got loads of makita batteries - the cordless one might be really useful for other stuff too (not as powerful as the one linked above). Used mine for lots of odd drying things (carpet, under kitchen cabinets) - could have used a mains one then I suppose but it is super easy just to plonk it down and let it whirr away.
For my board room (also an office) we’ve a cheapo floor mounted pedestal fan (£15) that works well enough and it rotates side to side giving a bit more coverage…
All fans might be in short supply at the moment though! 🌞
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Could just put up a blind, James? We have external blinds on our windows and it keeps the board room cool during the day even when it's toasty outside.
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This one. Absolute gamechanger for my fingerboard sessions.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/hf-45b-18-industrial-floor-fan-220-240v/754HY?tc=DA6&ds_kid=92700055281954508&ds_rl=1249404&gclid=Cj0KCQjwzYGGBhCTARIsAHdMTQymAhqs7wfT7amy4mnr3SZuNR8aiEyI5Ll5xEjRu61WP5QZ46cKzXsaAmPjEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
I've probably said this before but people that like torturing themselves on a turbo seem to favour air movers:
https://www.cleva-uk.com/products/vacmaster-air-mover
I've only ever used them to dry out a house in Florida which had repeated burst pipes beneath the floor (all of the plumbing was done in relatively aggressive soils). The whole house was full of them so my main memory is that they did work but they were relatively loud!
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I've probably said this before but people that like torturing themselves on a turbo seem to favour air movers:
https://www.cleva-uk.com/products/vacmaster-air-mover
Perhaps unsurprisingly :D that looks like a leaf blower without a nozzle!
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Surely that's a wind dab if aimed at the climber?
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Thanks for the recommendations. I’d prefer smaller but the one spidermonkey linked to is pretty cheap and would transform the room! I’ll have a think tonight and order something.
We do have blinds, but it’s where I work too so the natural light is good during the day. So wouldn’t like to close them really. Good though though - perhaps I could try it one day and see what it’s like.
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We do have blinds, but it’s where I work too so the natural light is good during the day. So wouldn’t like to close them really. Good though though - perhaps I could try it one day and see what it’s like.
Could try some window film on the windows to reduce the solar gain but still have natural light.
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Anyone got any recent fan beta? I've had a bit of a look around but can't find many good deals.
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Anyone got any recent fan beta? I've had a bit of a look around but can't find many good deals.
Most people go with Makita that's quite slim and can slide inside a pad.
Best ive used though is a Milwaukee one, and with the 12a/h battery last all day.
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Issue with the Makita being once you've bought batteries as well you're going to be spending c. £130-150.
Although unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any way round the cost these days if you want a larger power tool style one.
Another more cost effective option would be to go for a smaller desk type one. Loads of different options about and can't recommend any in particular (have a look on Amazon would be easiest). However these have the advantages of being much, much cheaper and being lighter / less bulky so easy to carry in to the crag. Personally I find when actually climbing you never really feel the effect of a larger fan anyway, or at least not in any material way unless it's on something very lowball and you set the fan up just so it's blowing on a particular hold etc. It's main utility therefore is to simply cool your skin down between attempts, which a smaller fan does perfectly well.
Having said all that, until about 2 weeks ago I had one made by Ozito (Australian company, randomly sold the fan in Homebase but now discontinued) which took Einhell batteries. One day it just stopped working, despite years of faithful service and no obvious damage. I'd love to get it repaired if anyone knows how that might be done?!
In the meantime I've replaced it with an Einhell fan, which is bulkier but still cheaper than a Makita and means I can use the same batteries. Lucky really as they're only sold in the EU and the Ozito happened to break while on holiday!
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If you've got the batteries for one brand then I'd just go for their fan. I've got the Milwaukee one as I had the batteries, and it seems pretty good (only used it once outside because of embarrassment!). Annoyingly bulky so won't go in a pad but the stats say it's moves more air than the Makita. It also has the advantage of running on a AC adapter, so I can set it up on mains for my fingerboard at home.
If I had to buy the batteries aswell... I'd just go Makita because it goes in a pad easier. Just check and it looks like this can run on an AC adapter too.
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I had thought about that, as I have 2 Hitachi Cordless Drills (which I think is now Hikoki) , this fan looks great (the site looks dubious!) but not sure the batteries would fit anyway.
https://www.hikoki-powertools.com/products/powertools/li-ion-misc/uf18dsal/uf18dsal.html
Is there any interchangeability between manufacturer's batteries? From the pictures it looks not, annoyingly. (without any dubious jiggery pokery at least!).
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It's main utility therefore is to simply cool your skin down between attempts, which a smaller fan does perfectly well.
I'd always hoped it would help to get the air moving in some cave like boulders?
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That was my thought too, especially to get rid of coastal smeg.
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With a bit of creativity you can defo cool down key holds on a boulder.
I have a tiny fan, a small makita and a larger one and the biggest is much better for even just cooling hands, just too heavy for a big walk in...
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Are they any good for getting rid of midges?? Or not that powerful?
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It's main utility therefore is to simply cool your skin down between attempts, which a smaller fan does perfectly well.
I'd always hoped it would help to get the air moving in some cave like boulders?
Yes they can do that, it's just fairly niche. For instance I think the time it most helped me do a problem was on a freezing cold night with frost descending, having the fan on kept the air circulating under the base of the problem and stopped the holds condensing.
All a balance isn't it though and not everyone wants to spend up to a couple hundred pounds on a big one let alone carry it about. If you just want to cool skin down that's very achievable with a smaller / cheaper one.
Are they any good for getting rid of midges?? Or not that powerful?
I've used mine for this once and it did work, but only when I directed it straight at my face from close up. The midges kept being caught in the blades, so each time I moved to have another go on the problem there was a pile of dead midges in my lap :lol:
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As nick mentioned, usually best to just get one that matches any batteries you already have to save some dollar. I did that with a dewalt fan and have been pretty happy with it. Lasts me around 2 hours if I keep it on at full blast without turning it off.
Fans are wonderful for drying holds when they get sweaty, case in point:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CqGRi1VIt4d/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
In this weather I darent go out without my fan, I’ve even been taking it to depot when climbing indoors and it makes the session bareable whilst I watch everyone else sweat their tits off :lol:
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If you put a citronella candle behind the fan it'll keep midges away from the area it blows through, so a little better than just a fan imo, ofc make sure your candle isnt somewhere you could make a fire though.
But when camping people use the candles to keep midges at bay.
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I've heard good things about these., but not tried personally https://www.thesmokinmidge.com/shop
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I am looking at getting an impact driver, fan and batteries in near future. Bit taken aback at cost :o
Going with makita.
Know the fan I want and assume that even the more basic impact drivers should be fine for me as it for general DIY stuff and homeboard.
Is the idea with the batteries that all the makita batteries will work with all makita kit and that the more you spend the better/ longer lasting the battery is?
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I've heard good things about these., but not tried personally https://www.thesmokinmidge.com/shop
Whoah that looks good!!
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My Makita one has completely dried out condensation in Tom's Roof in a few minutes.
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I am looking at getting an impact driver, fan and batteries in near future. Bit taken aback at cost :o
Going with makita.
Know the fan I want and assume that even the more basic impact drivers should be fine for me as it for general DIY stuff and homeboard.
Is the idea with the batteries that all the makita batteries will work with all makita kit and that the more you spend the better/ longer lasting the battery is?
almost all makita stuff is 18 volt, all those batteries fit all the machines.
there are also 14,4 volt and 40 volt lines, those run on separate battery systems.
the batteries go up in price depending on the amp(ere)'s. a 5 amp battery will last approx 2,5 times longer than a 2 amp battery , that is go time on one charge. apart from that there are no qualitative differences between the batteries. (more amp ones are heavier)
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Pedantry perhaps but isn't Ah Amp hours?
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I am looking at getting an impact driver, fan and batteries in near future. Bit taken aback at cost :o
Going with makita.
Know the fan I want and assume that even the more basic impact drivers should be fine for me as it for general DIY stuff and homeboard.
Is the idea with the batteries that all the makita batteries will work with all makita kit and that the more you spend the better/ longer lasting the battery is?
Yes to most intents and purposes Makita batteries work with all Makita kit.
It is really annoying that there isn't a single standard for power tool battery mounting. Quite anti-competitive really considering it means once you start buying things from a given manufacturer you're essentially locked in.
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Cheers folks
That info really helped decipher the options - have ordered impact driver and went for the 18 v 5 Ah battery as reckon will be better for future when add the portable fan.
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Also thanks from me for all the really good info. I was hoping for good news of some mega deal like the ozito one but alas, I think those times have long passed.
Still unsure what to do. Tempted to take a punt on one of these https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0BW5NZGB2/ref=sw_img_1?smid=A3FCMC6JTQWLD5&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0BW5NZGB2/ref=sw_img_1?smid=A3FCMC6JTQWLD5&psc=1) but worried I'll just regret it.
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I am looking at getting an impact driver, fan and batteries in near future. Bit taken aback at cost :o
Going with makita.
Know the fan I want and assume that even the more basic impact drivers should be fine for me as it for general DIY stuff and homeboard.
Is the idea with the batteries that all the makita batteries will work with all makita kit and that the more you spend the better/ longer lasting the battery is?
Yes to most intents and purposes Makita batteries work with all Makita kit.
It is really annoying that there isn't a single standard for power tool battery mounting. Quite anti-competitive really considering it means once you start buying things from a given manufacturer you're essentially locked in.
Long overdue an EU law on power tool battery standards :worms:
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Pedantry perhaps but isn't Ah Amp hours?
Yes
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It is really annoying that there isn't a single standard for power tool battery mounting. Quite anti-competitive really considering it means once you start buying things from a given manufacturer you're essentially locked in.
This problem of getting 18v from one arrangement of prongs to another has been solved by aftermarket adapters. If you google e.g. Dewalt to makita 18v battery adapter lots of results will come up. Likewise for most major brands. They obvs only work in one direction but if you're already "invested" in e.g. Dewalt but want a makita / milwaukee etc fan then for for £15 and some added bulk its totally doable. Not ideal for a handheld tool like an impact driver, but should be fine on a fan.
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It is really annoying that there isn't a single standard for power tool battery mounting. Quite anti-competitive really considering it means once you start buying things from a given manufacturer you're essentially locked in.
This problem of getting 18v from one arrangement of prongs to another has been solved by aftermarket adapters. If you google e.g. Dewalt to makita 18v battery adapter lots of results will come up. Likewise for most major brands. They obvs only work in one direction but if you're already "invested" in e.g. Dewalt but want a makita / milwaukee etc fan then for for £15 and some added bulk its totally doable. Not ideal for a handheld tool like an impact driver, but should be fine on a fan.
Interesting, thanks!
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Cheers folks
That info really helped decipher the options - have ordered impact driver and went for the 18 v 5 Ah battery as reckon will be better for future when add the portable fan.
I don't like those big batteries as they make the tools really heavy. Of course for the fan if you need to carry in it's good to only take one battery. But for example route setting we use the 1.5Ah batteries and one of them almost lasts a day and charges in 5 minutes, but instead you're lifting 300g less all day.
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My Makita one has completely dried out condensation in Tom's Roof in a few minutes.
yeah likewise at Woodwell, super useful for drying condensation.
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Anyone tried them on coastal dampness and found to be worthwhile? Found a project I want to invest some time in, but it's tidal and gets pretty damp in all but perfect conditions.
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This hot spell has made me think it really would be nice to have a fan. Just had a quick look online and it looks like a Makita fan, battery and charger from Sceewfix would set me back nearly £300. Really?! That seems like an awful lot of money for a fan.
Are there any other cheaper brands or suppliers out there?
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https://www.buyaparcel.com/makita-dcf201zw-18v-240v-lxt-cordless-portable-2-speed-fan-white-battery/
This looks like a legit seller, like you i finally decided to get one, and they are out of stock. Everyone must have thought similar in this weather.
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This hot spell has made me think it really would be nice to have a fan. Just had a quick look online and it looks like a Makita fan, battery and charger from Sceewfix would set me back nearly £300. Really?! That seems like an awful lot of money for a fan.
Are there any other cheaper brands or suppliers out there?
You must be looking at wrong fan. Just get this one with a battery and charger.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/makita-dcf201zw-9-3-4-18v-li-ion-lxt-cordless-portable-fan-bare/816XJ?store=FA7&kpid=816XJ&ds_rl=1249404&gclid=Cj0KCQjw7uSkBhDGARIsAMCZNJtpDGKMVgqipy-LXIHz8fpemAt6fiafH2dbGL4nzb6k6m6gWScELYIaAuxkEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
£20 for charger and then 5ah battery about £50
https://www.powertoolworld.co.uk/makita-dc18rc-18v-lxt-li-ion-fast-battery-charger-7-2-14-4-18v?gad=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw7uSkBhDGARIsAMCZNJsb32vpCuNoRaywCz74wr578Ns7KOYUyf3aB__nIbzKgM7ocyN17aEaAjqTEALw_wcB
Not sure how you’re getting to £300?
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I bought a 'Pro Breeze' 16 inch portable fan a couple of years ago. It's not a work style fan so it's nowhere near as rugged and it's a bit bulky (although not that heavy), but it moves more air than any others i've seen, lasts around 3-4 hours on full power, it's very quiet at a sensible speed for sleeping, looks nicer in the house, and it cost arout 80 quid. After 2 years of fairly regular use and having dropped it on rock a few times it still works fine. I'd buy another if it broke.
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Thanks all. Useful info and links.
The £300 came from the cheapest Makita battery and charger at Screwfix being £199, then + fan = £lots.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/makita-p-84280-18v-3-0ah-li-ion-lxt-batteries-charger-kit/356kj
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I also bought a ProBreeze and it was the best fan I've owned - I now have one of the Ryobi ones and, whilst it's good, it's noticeably less powerful. I say 'was' because within four months it had developed a loose connection that made it a bit of a nightmare to use (had to wiggle the switch until it stayed on then very carefully not move it), and it stopped working completely after six months. When I got in touch they said that they couldn't repair it and were out of stock so gave me a full refund, so at least their customer service was good.
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Thanks all. Useful info and links.
The £300 came from the cheapest Makita battery and charger at Screwfix being £199, then + fan = £lots.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/makita-p-84280-18v-3-0ah-li-ion-lxt-batteries-charger-kit/356kj
Yeah dont buy that! Also they are 3ah and wont last long
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Any tips on corded fans?
ATM it's 30 degrees at the kilter board. I have installed sockets in the ceiling but no fan yet, preferably I want there to be a remote control so it doesn't need to go 24/7.
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Yeah dont buy that! Also they are 3ah and wont last long
I got one with a 3ah battery, and it lasts nearly 3 hours on full power. Enough for most of my sessions.
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Recent beta for small hand fan - perfect for cooling off skin between attempts. This happens to be the one you buy from mellow, unbranded.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09NNDFBVX?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
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(https://img.gifglobe.com/grabs/partridgecloud/S01E04/gif/Q16r26iLxOH6.gif)
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Does anyone have any experience and recommendations for drying holds with leaf blowers?
I have a project at possibly the wettest crag in the Frankenjura, with crimps that even when dry are usually a bit greasy.
I have stanley batteries already, and they do a leaf blower but I'm wondering if I should finally delve into the world of Makita (or another?)
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I've done it at coastal blocs a little and it can really make a difference.
It is also load though and I wouldn't want to do it everywhere.
I've only used the makita one though (I bought a knock off makita one on ebay for 30£)