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the shizzle => diet, training and injuries => Topic started by: Kingy on August 17, 2018, 11:15:01 pm
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Long term study by the Lancet over about 25 years has found that eating a balanced diet of fat, protein and carbs prolongs life by as much as 4 years compared to those not eating carbs and substituting fat/ protein in their place. That's a relief cos I bloody love toast and rice/ pasta!
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(18)30135-X/fulltext (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(18)30135-X/fulltext)
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Long term study by the Lancet over about 25 years has found that eating a balanced diet of fat, protein and carbs prolongs life by as much as 4 years compared to those not eating carbs and substituting fat/ protein in their place. That's a relief cos I bloody love toast and rice/ pasta!
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(18)30135-X/fulltext (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(18)30135-X/fulltext)
It never looks as though you do, you skinny bugger ;D
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Long term study by the Lancet over about 25 years has found that eating a balanced diet of fat, protein and carbs prolongs life by as much as 4 years compared to those not eating carbs and substituting fat/ protein in their place. That's a relief cos I bloody love toast and rice/ pasta!
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(18)30135-X/fulltext (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(18)30135-X/fulltext)
In celebration of this, I sat behind the desk at the Bunker yesterday for ten hours and ate an entire fruitloaf, six packets of walkers, a YorkiePro and two Snickers.
#feelingguilty #greatdiet #notsurethisisgoingtoprolongmylife #it’sbeenalongcoupleofweeks
Edit:
#constipated
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Dave Mac's fucked. Living an E11 lifestyle..
More seriously - heard about this yesterday and there are subtleties. The main two are - the type of carbs, and what the people in the long-term study were eating in place of carbs.
The study was of population in the US. In place of carbs, the norm in the US is to eat huge amounts of protein and fat in the form of processed red meat. Not a good choice for a long healthy life. Other, healthier, forms of protein and fat exist.
Type of carbs can range from refined fructose and sucrose in cakes, chocolate, drinks with added sugar; to unrefined fructose from fruit (benefits from fibre) and glucose from veg, wholegrains, other starchy foods. Plenty of evidence for the damaging effects of refined fructose and sucrose. Plenty of evidence for the benefits of a diet rich in starchy foods, fruit/veg.
Pass the pringles.
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Mmmmmmmm... Pringles...
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Pete's right. There's no problem switching out poor carbs for good protein, fat and vegetables. The processed carbs and sugar industry seems to be having a bit of a panic recently and with lots of headlines suggesting that cutting them out is detrimental. The reality is that they are still really poor foods but it's possible to make your diet even worse by eating lots of processed meat instead.
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You have to be careful with the way results like this are interpreted. The title of this thread simply isn’t accurate (tongue in cheek I’m sure). The study suggests both very high and very low carb diets are detrimental. And as others say in some ways it’s important to look at what’s is making you live shorter rather than what’s making you live longer. Probably the answer is high volumes of meat, sugar and processed food. Gorging on bread is still likely to make you die younger.
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But life really isn’t worth living without bread!
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Gorging on bread is still likely to make you die younger.
Let them eat brioche then.
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Do you lot have any clue how hungry you are making me.
Quit it already!
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Do you lot have any clue how hungry you are making me.
Quit it already!
Thought you’d baguette.
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If you're interested, another Lancet study... https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(17)32252-3/abstract (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(17)32252-3/abstract)
Here are the main points:
- 10 year study, 35-70 year olds, 135,335 people
- Higher carbohydrate intake was associated with an increased risk of total mortality, but not with the risk of cardiovascular disease or cardiovascular disease mortality.
- Intake of total fat and each type of fat was associated with lower risk of total mortality
- Higher saturated fat intake was associated with lower risk of stroke
- Total fat and saturated and unsaturated fats were not significantly associated with risk of myocardial infarction or cardiovascular disease mortality.
High carbohydrate intake was associated with higher risk of total mortality, whereas total fat and individual types of fat were related to lower total mortality. Total fat and types of fat were not associated with cardiovascular disease, myocardial infarction, or cardiovascular disease mortality, whereas saturated fat had an inverse association with stroke. Global dietary guidelines should be reconsidered in light of these findings.
The big problem with all these types of studies is they're relying on people to remember what they ate, and also to be honest about it. You can probably find a study anywhere to support almost any opinion, but at the end of the day, if you feel good, then that's a good start! :great:
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Doctors discover balanced diet good for you shock.
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If you're interested, another Lancet study... https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(17)32252-3/abstract (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(17)32252-3/abstract)
Here are the main points:
- 10 year study, 35-70 year olds, 135,335 people
- Higher carbohydrate intake was associated with an increased risk of total mortality, but not with the risk of cardiovascular disease or cardiovascular disease mortality.
- Intake of total fat and each type of fat was associated with lower risk of total mortality
- Higher saturated fat intake was associated with lower risk of stroke
- Total fat and saturated and unsaturated fats were not significantly associated with risk of myocardial infarction or cardiovascular disease mortality.
High carbohydrate intake was associated with higher risk of total mortality, whereas total fat and individual types of fat were related to lower total mortality. Total fat and types of fat were not associated with cardiovascular disease, myocardial infarction, or cardiovascular disease mortality, whereas saturated fat had an inverse association with stroke. Global dietary guidelines should be reconsidered in light of these findings.
The big problem with all these types of studies is they're relying on people to remember what they ate, and also to be honest about it. You can probably find a study anywhere to support almost any opinion, but at the end of the day, if you feel good, then that's a good start! :great:
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Yudkin got it in the 70s