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the shizzle => bouldering => Topic started by: Bubba on August 15, 2004, 11:24:47 am
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Was talking to Norton Sharley who was taking a break back in the UK from his sport climbing trip of Europe. He says loads of the Swiss / Germans are using this stuff coz you can just buy it in the chemists over there.
Anyone used it? It's meant to kill sweaty fingers dead - I've ordered a couple of tubes from a German website so if it gets here I'll report on how it works...
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how much for how much?
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I suffer from sweaty, mushy tips so wouldn't mind giiving this stuff a try - what site did you order from?
I remember reading a Malc Smith interview that said he uses (relies) on Anti Hydrel cream to stop his fingers splitting. Having tried surgical spirit on my tips, I'd have thought dryer skin = splits.
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The site was http://mycare.de
If you speak German, this (http://mycare.de/artikelinfo.php?usernummer=5720983-1673224245&artikelnummer=52729&rubrik=&rubrik1=Suche&startwert=0&suchwort=antihydral) is the page for the cream.
It's 4.64 Euros per tube, but the postage was 9 Euros, so about 20 all-together.
There's no English version of the site, so you'll have to muddle through their shopping cart - I did it and I don't speak any German, so it can't be that hard.
My only worry is that they format the address backwards so it's being sent to streetname housename rather than the other way round. If the royal mail can sort it out then it should be ok. I'll let you know if it arrives.
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is this the "stump" cream then?
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Aye, that's the stuff.
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drier sskin means it feels bo until you hit a crystal bad and then hey presto youve scalped a tip. thick yet supple skin is what u want.
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I think it dries your skin but keeps it strong - Norton Sharley said it was unbelievable how trashed Bjorn's tips looked, but he could keep climbing. Said the only problem was if used to much your skin can get a bit "glassy".
Sounds like the ultimate stuff for tips, so we'll see if it lives up to the hype.
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general consensus seems to be that you only use it once a week. sam, who swears by all things hand cream related, had tips like leather after a few weeks, but got a paper cut n this wouldn't heal for about 3 weeks :lol: use it too much n the glass effect is true
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Butch was using some of it on his skin at the wall. He said you've only to use it now and then, not everyday, or else it can screw your hands up.
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You want get a couple of tubes ordered dense?
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tried this stuff when i was in swiss - it worked really well - tips were well sore and on the verge of going, put this cream on, and it was like climbin with new skin again!! :D
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Did it stop your tips getting sweaty?
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yes it did - works really well, jus trying to get hold of some back here, think there are lots of American websites that you can order it from, but it costs a fortune in postage and packaging!
One tip, make sure it is properly dry before going to sleep, as i managed to get the cream all over my face and the room I was staying in. Stings like hell, especially if you get it in your eyes :oops:
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Cheers - sounds like just what I need - check the German link I posted above - it's the same cream but way cheaper to buy as well as the postage cost.
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Keep us posted on whether or not this stuff works. If it does, anyone want to join in a bulk order ?
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This stuff is formulated to help prevent chaffing between prosthetic limbs and stumps :shock:
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If it does, anyone want to join in a bulk order ?
perhaps worth a pop if it'd give me a bit extra snouch in the inevitable font skin burnout.
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thats not too bad, just struggling putting my gcse german into practice after all these years!! :?
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mark - sounds like a good idea, let me know when your ordering
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I'll have a couple of tubes as I suffer from sweaty left hand
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Pop me down for some if there's an order going in, cheers.
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Ill have some too if thats OK :D
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Aye, me too please
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Okay, let's wait until Bubba's order comes through then we can get a big order together for the Sheffield Bouldering Amputees Association.
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I should have thought of this first - one of the guys on here is an amputee and might have first hand knowledge of this stuff already....and where to get hold of it, unless it's prescription only in the UK of course.
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Looks like you can't get the stuff through any UK supplier. I wonder if you can just buy it in any old chemist over there. Got a mate who goes there on business alot and will get him to grab some tubes next time. :D
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My Mate Ivan is an amputee climber and has also just finished a degree on Oesthtics and Prothetics. When I asked him about it he had never heard of it :(
....................Lazy Spanish bastard :roll:
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It's already been considered! Thing is, I've given away the location of the cheap source now! Should have kept schtum and ordered a thousand tubes myself to resell at vast profit.
The issue of the running costs of this site has been discussed recently - pretty soon something is going to have to be done as it's getting expensive and it's really important to me that ukb stays independent of any sponsors / manufacturers and also free of advertising.
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Hmm, what does that mean then? contributions? I like this site and would be prepared to stump up some wonga, but perhaps a more discerning marketing/brand strategy could be developed - I mean I can see scally kids in McDonalds car park in head to toe UKB gear with the right pitch :wink:
Anyway, Antihydral - I am a devotee since Swiss. When you have worn your tips right out application of this muck overnight really really helps - I can't over emphasise how good it is. Anyway, I have a tube, but it aint big and would be interested in getting more. Not to be applied to ones eyes though, as Simone has tested.
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Hmm, what does that mean then? contributions? I like this site and would be prepared to stump up some wonga, but perhaps a more discerning marketing/brand strategy could be developed
See the thread in the moderators forum Dobbin....
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OMfuckingG
I hadn't opened this thread before, and suddenly the penny drops....anti-hydral....against water....
Anything to combat sweatiness, anything please!! Fucking fed up of being so fucking sweaty :x :evil: :( ....
Seriously I will drink the stuff, bathe in the stuff....
Whoever is doing the Sheffield UKB order, whatever the total order is, just double it for my portion....fuck it, I'll go to Germany and buy as much of the factory I can afford....I have a German friend, I reckon I could do it....
Please tell us the score Bubba when you get it!!
Edit: Needed to add this smiley: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: just the thought of anything that might actually work against sweaty hands gives me wood....my surgical spirit at night / liquid chalk before every problem / block of chalk per day tactic still isn't nearly enough...
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do people still use block chalk? this should be made a crime
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block chalk is for sausage-monkeys and butthole-munchers.
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I buy it by the box!
I've tried everything and don't notice enough difference with all the drying agents and shit. Simple old Camp chalk seems to be the best.
Actually, some Italian stuff I got in a big bag in NZ was maybe the best but that might because NZ has a remotely FRESH climate compared to this stinking festering shithole.
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stick it in a refilable chalkball though and mutha nature will thank you.
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I do, but I have to use loose as well...
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Chalk balls suck ass.
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the refillable ones are 500% better than the normal ones thought (i would never use a normal one), mainly since you can keep it filled at that state where you got pleanty out easily, which with normal chalkballs usually lasts about30 minutes.
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I just don't see the point in them really, I'd rather just use loose chalk - it's easier to regulate how much you use and you don't have to faff about squeezing a baggy scrotal sac.
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squeezing the bag is the best part, becomes theraputic and like using a stress squeezer can calm you down a bit, ver relaxing. if i put my hand intoa chalkbag just full of powder i wouldn't know what to do with myself.
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personally i find that a bag of super chalk lasts a lot longer n is a lot better than bloc chalk pound for pound. may seem expensive but well worth it
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I used to use chalk balls all the time, and sometimes put a little slit in the bottom to let some chalk out. Local wall only sells block chalk so that's what I've been using for a while now, but it just keeps on falling out of chalk bag outside and inside which I don't like. I've got a reusable chalk ball now, although I haven't started using it.
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if i put my hand intoa chalkbag just full of powder i wouldn't know what to do with myself.
You could always fondle your chalky balls with the other hand :P
I have the chalkball as something to grasp and get even coverage over my hand, and the loose chalk to actually deliver an adequate amount for the 1.5 seconds it lasts before I sweat it off. Refillable chalk balls also very useful for an emergency back-up supply...
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squeek i think your main prob is that you haven't got a "proper" chalk bag. enter the bucket
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But I need one I can stick around my waist for all these routes I do, err, attempt.
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chalkballs are pretty useful for cleaning the odd sweaty hold
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See the thread in the moderators forum Dobbin
wots the moderators forum?
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It's a private forum for the moderators :P
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Talking about balls, I managed to completely balls up the order form on that German site, lets see if the order can be delivered with just a house number and street name, I'll be very impressed with the postal service at home and abroad.
Anyway, I'm an idiot, hopefully though my master yoda style web translated email begging them to change the address before it's sent might work "Address please change my delivery to, pleased I will be". If it does, how do people usually apply this stuff - amounts, drying time stuff like that. I can still remember the surgical spirit craze that left five fingers split down the middle after a grit warm up, don't want to experience that again too soon. If someone had told me not to bathe my tips in the stuff for half an hour a night then it wouldn't have happened.
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I will do a 'Dear Deirdre photo casebook' if you like?
You apply a thick layer to just the tips of your fingers. Avoid covering the line where the skin creases - this is liable to cracking, it should be applied thick enough that you cannot see the finger skin underneath. Now go to sleep with your hands up in the air or somehow keep from stuffing your fingers in your eyes/bollocks/arse (delete as appropriate) and wash off in the morning.
DO NOT REAPPLY INSIDE A WEEK! YOU WILL TURN INTO A CRISP. The last part I made up but you should avoid caning it as you WILL get splits.
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That's impossible - I'd just be scratching my arse and re-arranging my nuts all night and end up with a rock hard asshole. Not nice.
Presumably you can put it on for half an hour a few times or something instead?
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Butch said that he puts it on and waits for 30 minutes then washes it off, and if he was wanting to go climbing on Sunday, he'd apply it on Friday night. He was also talking about stuff for cow udders!
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He was also talking about stuff for cow udders!
Bagbalm I think its called- Slightly easier to get hold of than Antihydral.
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That might be Hoofmaker - for horses hooves, but is a really good handcream - I've got some and it keeps your skin nice and strong, but doesn't help with the sweatiness.
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That's impossible - I'd just be scratching my arse and re-arranging my nuts all night and end up with a rock hard asshole. Not nice.
Young Simone did just this in Swiss and now walks with a limp and has an eye that looks like its glass. Look on the plus side, should you ever get thrown in prison you won't come back with an ass like a torn bus seat.
Presumably you can put it on for half an hour a few times or something instead?
Probably, we were just told to do it overnight - it is impractical though. Sounds like Butch uses it for a brief spell and gets on ok with it. If anyone can translate german I'll post the contents of the instructions...
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Wooo! it's arrived!
Two small tubes - no postcode on the address though so glad it got here.
Will try a bit tonight and then report back from the wall tomorrow...
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Why don't you apply it and then just put your hand in plastic bags/clingfilm overnight so you don't get it everywhere?
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Too much hassle - I'm just gonna put it on for 1/2 hour or something first. If you put it in bags it'd probably squish everywhere too and I think you only want it on your tips....
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Cancel my order if you wake up with a pair of these (http://www.theranger.co.uk/vet/vet16.jpg) cheers :wink: .
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:lol:
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Well, mine arrived somehow, despite my efforts. I'm excited, like a small child at Christmas with a Nintendo shaped present to open (most presents are Niintendo shaped, I couldn't think of anything funny). Anyway, is there any benefit to be had from whacking this stuff on thin, post font skin? I'm expecting a miracle, I want my skin to resemble that found on the heel of Ghandi (when he was alive preferably) that doesn't sop sweat all over the holds after two moves and is thick & tough. I think I'm heading for a disappointment.
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I couldn't wait so applied a very thin layer over all over my hands but had stuff to do so probably rubbed it all off. Will do a proper 1/2 hour tonight and hit the wall/crag tomorrow. Also, my new woodie should be up by this weekend too which will be a good testing ground.
If it means I can chalk up half as much then I'm happy.
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Yeah, when you think about it, even if it doesn't affect the thickness of the skin or it's split/wear resistance, it should stop the sweat. When I think of the number of times I couldn't do a problem cos my fingers sopped after the chalk wore off (3 moves in usually), this stuff should make a big difference. Even liquid chalk I didn't really think helped much, it seems to vanish just as quick from the contact parts of the hand. I can't wait to see what this stuff does.
That Hoof maker stuff you mentioned - does it toughen the skin or just soften it?
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I'm excited already!!
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Yeah, when you think about it, even if it doesn't affect
I've always been a sweaty fingered bastard.
That Hoof maker stuff you mentioned - does it toughen the skin or just soften it?
Toughens but keeps it supple too - good stuff. Apparantly the climb-on stuff is cool too.
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btw, "Antihydral" appears to be a brand name, so there might be something similar available in the uk under a different name.
The main active ingredient is Methenamin.
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I pity the fool who stumbles across this site and doens't know about bouldering - Horses hoof cream, udder cream, amputees stump cream. But we're not strange are we?
You got a supplier for the hoof cream? :P
Cheers
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Also, my new woodie should be up by this weekend too which will be a good testing ground.
dave should have about 3000 spare holds :wink:
have you sold the bike?
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I know, it is bizarre what we'll try in pursuit of skin-nirvana :lol:.
I got my Hoofmaker from Kv Vet Supplies (http://www.kvvet.com/KVVet/assets/html/homepage.asp?URLCheck=1). They're US based, so again the postage was more expensive than the product.
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Also, my new woodie should be up by this weekend too which will be a good testing ground.
dave should have about 3000 spare holds :wink:
have you sold the bike?
yeah, I've got my eye on some of his holds, though I do fancy a T.H. style wooden hold system thingy as well.
Yeah, sold the bike - was glad to see it go really coz it solved the dilemma of whether to ride it or not. I don't enjoy road riding no more.
The guy who bought it had a fucked up leg from his last crash - he was strapping on some massive brace in my kitchen just to ride the thing home :shock:
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the mind boggles. would love a bike but not prepared to put up with the idiots on the road. got hit into the other day by a guy who missed his turn n was reversing back onto the main road. luckily i was only 5 foot behind him. i was so shocked to see him slam on n reverse that i couldn't find my horn. car fine tho so i can still my my hairdressin appointments :D
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don't want to be late for the salon ;)
best thing to do in these days of over crowded roads and police helicopters with speed cameras is to either just get a track bike which is cheaper anyway, or get an enduro/crosser and have fun off road at speeds where you're less likely to kill yourself.
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Finally got down the wall to test this stuff and I have to say I'm very pleased with it indeed - since I got the stuff I've put a little bit on (less than the amount of toothpaste you'd typically use to clean yer teeth) and then put a bit on about an hour before going to the wall.
I reckon I was chalking up about 1/3 as much as usual, and after a 2 hour session (only easyish routes mind, no sharp crimps or anything) my skin feels tough and pretty unused.
Recommended.
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I reckon I was chalking up about 1/3 as much as usual, and after a 2 hour session (only easyish routes mind, no sharp crimps or anything) my skin feels tough and pretty unused.
OMG I just came :hyper: :blowjob: :up: :rocker2: :wiggle:
SOMEONE GET THE SHEFFIELD ORDER IN STRAIGHT AWAY - PM ME AND I'LL COUGH UP STRAIGHT AWAY!
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A big order might be the way to go - I'd certainly be up for a couple more tubes, and that should be enough for the season.
I don't want to overhype it, but it seemed to work better than anything else I've tried - I'm going to do some Hoofmaker to keep the skin subtle though.
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you drug abuser you, bubba
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too many cooks... :wink:
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you drug abuser you, bubba
It's in my blood :lol:
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u should sell it on ukb bubbs. then the idiots like me who don't have a clue how to order the stuff from the german sods can get their sweaty tips on some. :cry: :cry: :cry:
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A shop is on the list of things to do - I don't ever want this place to become a UKC/PF but generating a little bit of income to cover server costs would be cool. Be nice to run this place as non-profit - ie, any profit get's ploughed back into commissioning high quality content, etc.
As usual the main issue is time....there's only me developing and I commute 80 miles a day to a full time job.
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As usual the main issue is time....there's only me developing and I commute 80 miles a day to a full time job
sounds harsh.
Be nice to run this place as non-profit - ie, any profit get's ploughed back into commissioning high quality content
that would be well cool. i'd buy and wear a UKB t-shirt with pride. :D
how's the new site coming along by the way?
I don't ever want this place to become a UKC/PF
aye, planetfears isn't exactly great. i wonder why the hell they've got all this adventure sports crap splattered all over the site now?
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I've tested the stuff over the last week, and it's even better than Bubba is letting on, it's a fuckin elixir for the fingers. I've got really sweaty soft tips, but no sweat comes out after applying this stuff, for about 3 days, even when daydreaming about bouldering the tips stay dry. Fiend you will shoot your load when you try this (I get the impression your skin is as crap as mine).
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I forgot to add, the major downside is you will need to invest heavily in moisturiser, I never used any before (bad idea with soft tips) I got through half a cocoa butter tub last week!
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that would be well cool. i'd buy and wear a UKB t-shirt with pride.
We're on the case - need to come up with some cool designs, stuff that you'd be happy to wear out and about rather than crap with a cheesy strapline on.
how's the new site coming along by the way?
Slowly...but surely - ukb is also teaming up with another site dedicated to climbing training advice which will have some very knowledgeable people on board.
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Slowly...but surely - ukb is also teaming up with another site dedicated to climbing training advice which will have some very knowledgeable people on board
its not that yahoo group thing is it?
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Boulderhog - excellent to hear, gosh I'm really quite excited....gives me an excuse to use this smiley again :hyper:
Bubba - about the T-shirts (obviously in the future when there's time for all that stuff), it would be quite nice to have something that isn't blatantly UKBOULDERING.COM in yer face style but has a subtle link that other users can recognise. Maybe get Dave to do something with a gangsta flava :)
Actually on second thoughts you'd end up with a hideous lurid UKB button shirt :roll:
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Bubba - about the T-shirts (obviously in the future when there's time for all that stuff), it would be quite nice to have something that isn't blatantly UKBOULDERING.COM in yer face style but has a subtle link that other users can recognise
i'd second that one.
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its not that yahoo group thing is it?
No - never heard of that one - what's the group name?
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Boulderhog - excellent to hear, gosh I'm really quite excited....gives me an excuse to use this smiley again :hyper:
Bubba - about the T-shirts (obviously in the future when there's time for all that stuff), it would be quite nice to have something that isn't blatantly UKBOULDERING.COM in yer face style but has a subtle link that other users can recognise. Maybe get Dave to do something with a gangsta flava :)
Here's one dave prepared earlier. Is that subtle enough for yo ass :lol: ?
(http://beardownproductions.co.uk/bee.jpg)
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In case you were worried, I don't think this design was put forward as a serious contender for production!
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thats fucking brilliant dave. u see, i would actually buy a t-shirt with that on just for the comedy value.
sorry Bubba i can't remember the name but i thought it was fairly crap anyway. i found it through an old planet fear thread.
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Genius! It's got bees, guns, and gangsta flava. What more could one want?? oh yeah taste and style maybe :lol:
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I forgot to add, the major downside is you will need to invest heavily in moisturiser, I never used any before (bad idea with soft tips) I got through half a cocoa butter tub last week!
fucking hell, my tub of that is over a year old and still going!
if this stuff really is the shiz then i needs to hook me up wi some cos my skin can go from A1 to dogshit in 3-tries on certain problems. also i've just got myself another on of those wierd painful splits you get on the crease at the first joint on your finger, from my woody. anyone else get these? nightmare and takes ages to heal, and you can't really climb taped up, especialy bad since tonight looks like a nice weather. :evil:
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The Sheffield Order.
Is anyone planning to do one??
If not I can try to do one fairly soon, I know a German lass who can run me through the site, if I have an idea of how many people want. Then I can deliver it (maybe just to one person who regularly sees all of you lot?).
P.S. :hyper:
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also i've just got myself another on of those wierd painful splits you get on the crease at the first joint on your finger, from my woody. anyone else get these? nightmare and takes ages to heal, and you can't really climb taped up, especialy bad since tonight looks like a nice weather. :evil:
Yeah I get these bastards. I just bought one of those Climb On bars to see if this helps avoid them. I intend to stop using chalk with drying agents in and go back to the Camp stuff. I find the best way to deal with said split is to put a blob of super glue (the gel type is best) above and below the split and stick on a strip of tape (sticky side up) in such a way that it prevents the split being pulled open even when you crimp (best to stick it on with joint slightly bent), then back this up with a ring of tape either side of the joint over the glued strip.
Moisurising, avoiding harsh soaps and using sand paper to avoid thickskin build up next to areas of skin wear are the best ways to prevent these splits.
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Really, if you've ordered stuff of the web before it's an easy shopping cart to deal with - you can just use google translator to sort anything else you still don't get out.
One thing that might be worth doing is tacking your postcode onto the end of Sheffield (if it'll allow that) because although mine got here ok without one, it might be a safer bet.
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also i've just got myself another on of those wierd painful splits you get on the crease at the first joint on your finger, from my woody. anyone else get these? nightmare and takes ages to heal, and you can't really climb taped up, especialy bad since tonight looks like a nice weather. :evil:
Yeah I get these bastards. I just bought one of those Climb On bars to see if this helps avoid them. I intend to stop using chalk with drying agents in and go back to the Camp stuff. I find the best way to deal with said split is to put a blob of super glue (the gel type is best) above and below the split and stick on a strip of tape (sticky side up) in such a way that it prevents the split being pulled open even when you crimp (best to stick it on with joint slightly bent), then back this up with a ring of tape either side of the joint over the glued strip.
Moisurising, avoiding harsh soaps and using sand paper to avoid thickskin build up next to areas of skin wear are the best ways to prevent these splits.
yeah word - i moistureize and sand like a muthafukker anyway. i think its one particular hold on me board that does it really - just forgot about it. was a right pain last winter, really fucking up my training for weeks, cos they take ages to heal and can easily be agitated, then typically i'd get one on the other hadn just and the first one was clearing!. i really shoudln't have gone to the matrix last nite....
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why not just get shot of that hold?
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Really, if you've ordered stuff of the web before it's an easy shopping cart to deal with - you can just use google translator to sort anything else you still don't get out.
One thing that might be worth doing is tacking your postcode onto the end of Sheffield (if it'll allow that) because although mine got here ok without one, it might be a safer bet.
might be worth doing a bulk order just to spread the postage though innit.
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Yeah, I suppose I could do another one and charge you all an extra quid for my time :wink: - I'm joking of course...
How many tubes are we talking in total?
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This is what I'm on about, the bulk order business.
If someone else is going to do it, I'll pay my share in advance. I'll go for 6 in total.
If no-one's going to get one done soon, I'll get it done, people just tell me how much you want.
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whoever does an order, i'll go for 3.
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I ordered 3 yesterday, anyone know how long a tube lasts? (Assuming ~2 applications a week).
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Should last a while I reckon - I've only been using a tiny bit each time and it seems to do the job.
So, we're up to 12 choobs - any more?
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Pop me down for a couple.
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also i've just got myself another on of those wierd painful splits you get on the crease at the first joint on your finger, from my woody. anyone else get these? nightmare and takes ages to heal, and you can't really climb taped up, especialy bad since tonight looks like a nice weather. :evil:
I got one of these on tuesday night Dave, pretty fucking painful an'all. Not to bad to climb on cos its on my pinky tho
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I'll go for 3 tubes.
Anyone particularly keen to put the order together? If not then I don't mind doing it. Unless someone volunteers to do it beforehand, I'll get an order off this evening.
So far...
Bubba: 3
Fiend: 6
dave: 3
Bonjoy: 2
mark: 3
Can all the above PM me to confirm?
Anyone else who wants any, PM me with quantity.
Looking through the site it seems that if the order is over 50 Euros then P&P is waived, making it 4.64 Euros a tube. At current exchange rates that's about £3.30. Add a bit for my credit card company charging a supplement for foreign currency purchases and call it £3.50 a tube. If I make a profit I'll drop it in a charity tin. If I make a loss I'll hunt you all down and kill you like the dogs you are.
I'm in Sheffield so am happy to order for anyone in Sheffield. Anyone outside Sheffield, move to Sheffield.
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I wonder if this will be like the raver induced massive sales hike of Vics Vapo-Rub in the early 90's?
Somebody at mycare.de will be thinking - wtf? A sudden rash of amputations in Sheffield England? Vot iss goink on?
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just tell them we've gone under Shari`ah islamic law.
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am i to late to order 3
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am i to late to order 3
Not too late. But are you local? If not you'll have to send me the cash plus a stamped, addressed envelope. Or meet in the Peak sometime.
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i've pm you regarding this.
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don't forget if your order goes over a certain amount HM customs and excise like to bang extra costs ontop, eg VAT, import duty etc.... then there's the cost that people like Parcel force like to put on as well if its a package.
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if you can get the bosh to write "GIFT" on the package then you can often get away without paying import/VAT. naughty but nice.
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or even samples. try to get the geezer to mark it down with less value as well. I think the limit is about £35 ish before they wack on tax etc.. (don't quote me on that tho)
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It depends what it is as well - if it's classed as medicines then I think there's a reduced import duty scheme in place.
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or you could pay someone to wrap them in jonnies and swallow 'em.
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"man spontaneously desicates after 100 condoms containing anti-hydral cream burst in stomach" :lol:
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My German's certainly not up to asking for any special treatment of the package. I'll be filling out the order form with help from Mr and Mrs Babelfish so fingers crossed that the water-eating spooge gets here at all. Even if we get hit by duty, the cost of that split amongst us will still be cheaper than taking the postage hit individually.
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Please could I order three tubes too, I have PM'd you about it. Thanks
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Okay, sweaty types, the order is sent. A grand total of 31 tubes of skin-friction enhancer should be hurtling towards Sheffield in the next few days.
The total cost was 154.84 Euros which includes 11 for shipping. If we escape import duty then that's about £3.60 a tube after my credit card company has charged me 2.75% for the foreign currency transaction. When it arrives I'll PM everyone with final costs and we can arrange payments, distribution and posting for those reckless enough to live outside Sheffield.
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Word :worthy: :hyper: :rocker2: :clap: :jump:
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Hello,
think i've watched the parade go by but you never know so thought i'd see whether anyone thinks they've ordered a couple too many and fancies giving one tube up...(a guy in the know told me a little goes a rediculously long way :wink: )
I'll be in shef from the 5th.
Nice one,
Huffy
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I guess the secret's well and truly out now. Antihydral, the skin care formula of those in the know is now for all to enjoy. Ok it was hinted at in the Malc interview in one of the mags, but didn't really give any useful details.
So let's all give a big thanks to Bubba for telling us all what it is and where to buy it - THANKS :D (lets just hope it's not toxic and ends up poisoning us all in a few years time, in which case I'll be taking that thanks back)
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No worries boulderhog - it was Norton Sharley that tipped me off after his visit to the Magic Wood.
I guess the thing is to start slowly with this stuff. I like some others have skin that doesn't split - I have had like 2 ever or something, but I know some people get them real bad.
Probably depends on how much you climb too - my weekly schedule will be a fraction of anyone climbing hard, so that'll help too.
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i'm only planning to use it like when skins been beaten to a pulp and gone soft and thin like on a roadtrip, font etc. I have got splittable skin, but i'd be a fool not to try it given the chance and it costs fuckall.. im not like going to be using it every week or soemthing crazy, or maybe just use a very small amount or something. however if it does last as long as everyone says and i only use it sporadically then i might well have some going spare huffy, but i'll se how it goes first.
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Three cheers for Mark!!!
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you guys do realise you're only 2 years behind the times. wait till i spill the beans about the mixture of anti-hydral cream, hoofmaker n ky gel
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what do you mean 2 years behind the times.i've still got a pair of boreal lazers [ red and black ones]and apair of stone monkey 3 quarter leggings. :lol:
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are you dave thomas? :wink: :lol:
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He can't be, if he was he'd have said that he pulls his pants up to his nips too???? :wink:
By the way:
i'm only planning to use it like when skins been beaten to a pulp and gone soft and thin like on a roadtrip, font etc.
Obviously if you have already knackered your skin and have splits then it should be avoided! I think you are better using it before you do the damage as it toughens the skin against splitting and makes it take longer to go through.
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Prepare to feel dehydrated, the anti-sweat spooge has arrived! We escaped import duty so let's call it £3.60 per tube, as I calculated before. I'll PM everyone with my details so you can arrange to collect it or have it sent to you. Hope you can all get it quickly before the combined action of two kilogrammes of the stuff sucks the moisture out of my defenceless body!
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Ooooh, I feel dessicated already :D
Cheers for sorting it out Mark.
PS This shit *really* dries your skin out so start off with a small amount every few days, and see how it goes.
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How much does each tube weigh so I can calculate how many stamps I need to lick for the postage to Oxford?
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How much does each tube weigh so I can calculate how many stamps I need to lick for the postage to Oxford?
78g for the tude, another 6g if you want the cardboard box covered in German warnings: "Achtung! Deise ointmentungen ist ein bischen gecheaten fur gritstonen!"
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recieved mine and dense's supply just now. I'm like at kid at christmas.
She's not best pleased tho
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You calling Dense a girl?
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Bit of a case study for you:
Person B has a recurring campus board injury on the crease at the top of a finger on his left hand, the injury heals and becomes a tougher bit of skin, moves up the finger as the skin grows down. Person B goes to the County and applies the magic Antihydral cream - Person B is drunk and is not particularly careful, cream allowed to cover the scarred bit.
Without proper post-climbing trip hand care (any sort of moisturisation /climb-on/whatever) your tips will go proper dry, by the wednesday the week after, Person B had a deep painful split clean through the skin and down to flesh, right where the lines in the finger print go. nice.
So - make sure you keep em moisturised and avoid any wounds - even old ones. Or buy a load of super glue and grit your teeth.
Bugger.
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It seems to take a couple of days to reach maximum dryness too, so if it's not worked as you expected the morning after, maybe think twice before whacking a load more on.
Luckily, I never pull on small enough holds for splits these days.
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got mine cheers mark. :D whats the consensus on when to use it. i'm planning to climb tonight,friday and monday.
i looked up methenamin in the bnf and i can only see it as being an ingrediant in tablets for urine infections. :shock:
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just sat for 30mins with it on.i've now realised i never sit and do nothing.how the hell do you keep it on for longer.
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I just rub a bit in until it's mostly been absorbed, then go about my normal business, taking care to avoid having a wank for a while.
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half an hour with out a wank that would a male record. :wink:
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i put it on shortly before going to bed, as once it is dry, it can just work its magic over the night. just be careful where you put your hands tho :shock:
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You calling Dense a girl?
you could try n pass me off as a russian :wink:
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Are you looking for an honest and hard-working husband?
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as long as i'm not expected to do any of it, i'm game
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Bubba, Bonjoy, LJ and simone still to collect the magic cream. Any of you care to arrange to meet tomorrow? Forecast looks good - windy and not terribly hot - so I'm planning a session somewhere on grit. Make me an offer and maybe we can conduct some shady deal.
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I've got a lot to do tomorrow but will give you a ring if I can make it - you still on the same mobile number?
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I got some of that Horse hoof stuff yesterday so im gonna give that i try and report back, the stuff stinks like dried grass and oil so i hope its worth it as it makes me wanna hurl every time i use it! :P
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are you sure you didn't just buy a horses hoof?
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are you sure you didn't just buy a horses hoof?
Easy mistake to make. I went to Tesco the other day for some shaving cream and came home with a pig's trotter, how did that happen?
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OMG OMG OMG.
My Austrian friend has just given me 4 tubes of this stuff. I'm sat here at work with sticky fingers as I type :lol: His girlfriend bought it over the counter at a Pharmacy in Hamburg :? How weird is that. Must be many amputee/sweaty people in Germany :)
............anyway will report back if I get any positive results. I've had loads of problems with my skin since I started climbing again so this should be a good experiment!
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used this shit a few times in font wi me homies, towards the end of the trip where we were getting thin and sxwidgey skin. seemed to do the trick to harden them a bit- - mine still looked sore, but felt OK. Even seemed to help my split tip heal faster as it seemed to dry out the split inside bit and ting.
can honestly say i didn't notive any reduction in sweaty fingers though.
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dave.you reckon it helps heal cut tip's.i've been avoiding using it since i split mine last week.i read on here that it could make them worse.
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hard to say. i was going to avoid mine (for the reason you say) but accidentally put some on anyway.
so heres the full skinny: got a split in otherwise good skin on ange naif on monday. it was a couple of mm deep, like a "torn open" rather than "worn through". then climbed for 2 days with it taped, all ok (but didn't seem to be healing, and having it under tape allday makes it look wack like you've just been in the bath), using climb-on and antiseptic in the evenings. then used some antihydral and accidentally put some on it, and left it (wednesday?). however i didn't use all that much (just a tiny dab on each finger then rubbed in), but continued to put some on every night for rest of trip, and moisturising as normal.climbed the rest of the trip with it untaped and no problems, started off only using slopers with that hand but in the end even the carnage and hypothesis crimps didn't reopen it. basically by friday it was totally heeled, with only a tiny line where the split was.
Hard to say if this is faster than normal, given the circumstances. however I can say that the sunday before our trip i did a similar split on the adjacent finger trying blind fig, which was pissing blood (the font split didn't bleed) and with the usual course of climb-on, antiseptic and heavy sanding i just about got it to heel up for the following weekend.
did feel like the font split heeledvery fast, but don't know how much part the antihydral played. it certianly didn't make it any worse, when used in moderation.
I always find with big tears that what you are waiting for is for the edges of the split to dry out and be removed by either natural means or by sanding, whilst the tender inside skin becomes desensitised and tough. maybe the antihydral with its drying properties speeds this process up? I'll certainly be trying it again on next split.
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cheers i'll give it atry.i cut mine on zaff's problem,my skin was fine it's the starting right hand hold full of razor crystals.i sanded them down and taped to climb at the w/e but did'nt yesterday and one of them opened up again.
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So what's the feedback on this stuff? Thumbs up or not? And if thumbs up, is anyone going to get hold of any more?
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So what's the feedback on this stuff? Thumbs up or not? And if thumbs up, is anyone going to get hold of any more?
I'm a believer. Reckon it helps keep my tips dry for longer. I don't use much, just enough to coat my tips. I put it on in the morning before climbing. Did initially try putting a bit on each evening but that made my tips too dry and I got a couple of splits.
When I did the bulk order, one of the group never sent me the cash despite many reminders so I have an extra three tubes if you want some. They cost me 3.60 per tube, plus a bit for P&P if you're not in or around the Peak or Sheffield.
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sounds like a bargain - I'll give a tube a go (if you don't mind splitting the threesome up). If that's okay, I live in Durham so just add a reasonable amount for P&P and get in touch re payment.... I didn't buy myself any Easter Eggs so amputee stump cream will have to be my treat!
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sounds like a bargain - I'll give a tube a go (if you don't mind splitting the threesome up). If that's okay, I live in Durham so just add a reasonable amount for P&P and get in touch re payment.... I didn't buy myself any Easter Eggs so amputee stump cream will have to be my treat!
Happy to send you a tube. Call it 4 quid including P&P. I'll PM you with my address.
Anyone else feeling sweaty? 2 tubes left.
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I find that it hardens my tips which is great when your slapping for sloppers.Its not too good then on sharp crimps.I guess the amount you use might depend on the type of climbing you going to do.
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Birkby is keen to relieve you of a tube Mark. I'll PM you his e-mail.
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I find that it hardens my tips which is great when your slapping for sloppers.Its not too good then on sharp crimps.I guess the amount you use might depend on the type of climbing you going to do.
sounds like just the job - my finger tips are absolutely raw from font and Brimham's slopey horrors. Currently using liquid-skin to stop them from sticking to the keyboard (supposedly helps healing too) but nearer to my next grit-trip I reckon I'll be wanting to get more proactive on them.
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Aye Mark, I will take a tube off your hands for £4 or so. PM me your details and I will send a cheque.
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This stuff is good. It'll make thin skin harder so you can climb on it with less pain however, if you have dry hands or cracked skin, DO NOT USE as it'll turn you into a leper. I have one hand that doesn't sweat and one hand that sweats for 2. I only use it on my sweaty hand cos when I put it on the dry one, all the skin just cracked open and had split tips on every finger
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freak
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I have one hand that doesn't sweat and one hand that sweats for 2.
Did someone set up a diversion in your sweat glands? That's damn wierd.
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its not only me that suffers with this. something to do with the 'devils' hand I'm told
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From your avatar it looks more like stigmata.
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Yeah, cos christ was nailed to the cross by his fingertips :roll:
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Moose and Chris, thanks for the cheques. Your tubes of Auntie Hydral anti-spooge were posted this morning. Enjoy the friction.
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Yeah, cos christ was nailed to the cross by his fingertips :roll:
Sorry I offended your Christian sensibilities, will be more careful in the future.
You must be fun down the pub.
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:lol:
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:lol: