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music, art and culture / Re: The right to counter-protest
« Last post by Tony on April 24, 2024, 09:54:19 am »
a point remains that the marches are not safe places for Jews (nor Iranians) who do not join in with the slogans. The police know this and that is why they police away counter-protesters who insist on placing themselves in the march.

Err, I think there is a considerable difference between “not join[ing] in” and counter-protest. What is evidenced by the police’s response (as was ever thus) is that it’s usually a bad idea to have a large number of people (one one side or both sides) who hold opposing views, both demonstrating these views, to come together.
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diet, training and injuries / Re: One for the runners
« Last post by lukeyboy on April 24, 2024, 09:44:32 am »
As I'm already a runner and would be doing it because I wanted to rather than as 'a challenge', I wouldn't / couldn't ask people to sponsor me. It would feel like a piss take.

OT but it winds me up when people ask you to sponsor them for something they'd just like to do anyway, like a skydive (particularly where the amount raised pays for the jump), unless perhaps they are chronically terrified of it and it is a genuine challenge for them.
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diet, training and injuries / Re: One for the runners
« Last post by SA Chris on April 24, 2024, 09:32:45 am »
Even though I got a ballot place, i raised money for RNLI, and came close to meeting the required amount with very little effort in promoting. And getting to use their after race facility for a feed and massage before getting on plane was a bonus.
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music, art and culture / Re: The right to counter-protest
« Last post by Mike Highbury on April 24, 2024, 09:13:22 am »
On Gideon Falter there was was an ex superintendent on the TV this morning defending the Lawrence family concerns. He also mentioned it's worth watching the full news clip on Sky news. Gideon had a camera crew ready and was trying to cross the path of the March itself. The superintendent was clear the Jewish comments were totally unacceptable but Gideon doesn't seem to be quite what he claimed.

https://news.sky.com/story/sky-news-footage-reveals-new-details-of-exchange-between-police-and-antisemitism-campaigner-called-openly-jewish-13120104


Essential viewing to get the full context. I think the police in that footage are being the adults in the room and look calm and polite. Of course he has a right of freedom of expression of faith, and to wear whatever he wants and go where he wants. But compare with a normal weekend afternoon up and down the country when rowdy opposing tribes of football fans are escorted by police in an effort to try to retain the peace, and not allow potentially volatile crowds to antagonise each other to the point of violence... we don't hear much about self-important football fans claiming they're being victimised by not being allowed their freedom to freely walk into an emotionally-charged crowd of people who may not like you very much, risking their own safety and those of the people who would inevitably have to try to sort it out following an inflammation. And then complaining that the police aren't keeping them safe by allowing public order to breakdown because of their lemming-like fondness for a confrontation with reality.

He's acting like a man-baby. Says it all that now the fuller picture has emerged that he claims he's now being victim-blamed. He has 'want-to-be-victim-of-injustice' stamped all over his core based on that footage.

There was also a piece on C4 news - where they found phone footage of Gideon F trying to cross the march on at least two other occasions and being asked not to by two different police officers. It appears that his behavior was being observed by a plain clothes officer and when G was challenged about this and denied it - said officer piped up to contradict him.

Whatever one may think about GF, a point remains that the marches are not safe places for Jews (nor Iranians) who do not join in with the slogans. The police know this and that is why they police away counter-protesters who insist on placing themselves in the march.

I imagine that GF was seeking to illustrate this. And even if he wasn't I don't really care bc the point still stands.

I'm sure that people are aware that London has become a less safe place for Jews, generally. I was almost destroyed in the Edgware Road yesterday (which is at the Marble Arch end of Oxford St) as I left synagogue yesterday. Like GF I would have been easy to identify, kippah and tallit bag, no camera crew just a wife and sister.

I appreciate that it is the first time that it's been quite so hostile; I've been going to synagogue there for decades and this has never happened before. That said, there's usually 10 police around premises at kicking out time but first day Pesach isn't the best attended service.
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for sale / wanted / Re: Wanted: 2008 Lundy CC Guide
« Last post by BAndy on April 24, 2024, 09:09:07 am »
Can give you a pdf of the 2008 guide and 2011 supplement

Thanks very much. I've PM'd you.
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for sale / wanted / Re: Wanted: 2008 Lundy CC Guide
« Last post by BAndy on April 24, 2024, 09:07:17 am »
If you dont manage to get your hands on a copy I'd be happy to take pics of mine for you, though it might be a bit unwieldy as it's not the clearest of guides at the best of times!

I think I'm sorted now but thanks very much for the offer.
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news / Re: significant repeats
« Last post by edshakey on April 24, 2024, 09:05:44 am »
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music, art and culture / Re: The right to counter-protest
« Last post by stone on April 24, 2024, 07:11:25 am »
Rosa Park's act was also staged political theatre. She is rightly seen as a hero.
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news / Re: significant repeats
« Last post by ferret on April 24, 2024, 12:54:00 am »
Seems like Solly has been reading this thread. Video illustrates how doing big 5 in a day is no joke even when you’re a beast.
https://youtu.be/EacpukYP1ug?si=Rfj2wazbqGb3gYq8
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for sale / wanted / FS: Unparallel Leopard II uk9
« Last post by unclesomebody on April 23, 2024, 11:12:29 pm »
I bought a pair of these from dark ventures but think they are way too soft for me.

Note that these are cosmetic seconds but are brand new. I can't actually see why they are seconds but presumably something isn't perfect on them. I haven't climbed in them.

£75.

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