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get involved: access, environment, BMC / Re: Changing the BMC

« Last post by Davo on Today at 09:11:45 am »

Hi Simon

I’ve been generally following this stuff and I applaud you for your efforts. I think due to your efforts the BMC are attempting to make some significant changes and improvements. I don’t like the way your resolutions have been handled by the BMC and I think your resolutions should go to AGM. I’m a BMC member via a club.

I have read the latest BMC stuff and am just wondering what your specific objections to them are? I can appreciate that one of the documents would feel like a personal attack on your resolution but I don’t read it that way myself. I don’t agree with all that it says but I just see it as a different opinion to yours that needs to be put forward and discussed at the AGM.

The papers seem to give better financial accountability and to segregate financially comp climbing which doesn’t seem unreasonable. If you wouldn’t mind detailing your objections that would be much appreciated

Cheers

Dave

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music, art and culture / Re: Assisted Dying, UK Parliament

« Last post by remus on Today at 08:54:16 am »

Sorry for your loss Sam and thanks for sharing on the forum.

For anyone interested, here's a long, very good (IMHO) article by philosopher Duncan Reyburn that he published about a month ago. Not that I'm agreeing with what he's written but I found it very thought provoking.

https://open.substack.com/pub/duncanreyburn/p/citizen-disposal?r=4n4mm&utm_medium=ios

An interesting piece, but I found it hard to get past the constant hyperbole. For example calling the doctors involved murderers, calling MAiD a "state-approved murder", a "nazi dystopia" and "the modern equivalent of the gas chamber".

Ultimately I don't think they make much of an attempt to balance the opposing sides: is being able to optionally end your life e.g. in cases of great suffering worth the risk of people being coerced in to ending their lives.

Imagine a child handing the relevant lethal dose to a parent to administer, if indeed that is the process followed. Imagine a friend handing a gun to another friend. Imagine a little girl watching the substance of that lethal injection being deployed into the arm of her mother. Can we honestly reconcile ourselves to what would be required of us to make such acts palatable? Nature may be cruel at times, and life hands very difficult endings to many of us. But to emulate that which opposes life is precisely to side with death. It is to side with the poison, the car crash, and the natural disaster.

I think this quote makes my point. It is certainly unpalatable helping someone kill themselves (I would certainly find it very hard, and of the doctors I know I think they would find it difficult too). But equally forcing someone who has expressed a clear wish to die to live against their will, while they descend into madness, or suffer in great pain for months or years, is obscene.

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diet, training and injuries / Re: One for the runners

« Last post by SA Chris on Today at 08:52:34 am »

I rate carbon road shoes too. From what i have read, due to the nature of shoe and terrain you are limited to lower stack size so benefits are not going to be as big as road shoes, but if you can get some at a reasonable price it's worthwhile. They were £100 on sportshoes, so a worthwhile punt as I needed new trail shoes anyway.

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news / Re: significant repeats

« Last post by gme on Today at 07:42:40 am »

Even more impressively Molly did Milk it at the school.

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power club / Re: Power Club 750 22-28 April 2024

« Last post by shark on Today at 05:32:17 am »

On ferry on way back from Kalymnos to Kos.

Have climbed 8 days out of 9 at a steady pace mainly at crags that are new to me. Onsighted a couple of 7a’s and a 7a+ and redpointed a tough 7b.
 
Started off hot and muggy then was just hot so sought out shadier crags.

It’s been a super chilled trip despite Karl calling me a cunt ten times a day. It’s been 10 years since I’ve been and still amazed how much rock there is. The level of polish is starting to take some of the ‘shine’ off the routes though.

Full ticklist here: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/showlog.php?id=9478

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get involved: access, environment, BMC / Re: BMC Peak Area meeting Wednesday 1st May

« Last post by shark on Today at 05:18:59 am »

Anything new disclosed at the meeting about what MC did or is doing about the Resolutions because I’m still pretty much in the dark.

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music, art and culture / Re: Anyone seen any good films lately - Part the second

« Last post by TobyD on Yesterday at 10:03:19 pm »

In the Land of Saints and Sinners
I thought this was pretty good; although it's fairly violent, I felt that it really wasn't glamorised. In some ways, it's typical of a Liam Neeson film, but in others not so much. Worth watching anyway, it's on Netflix.

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news / Re: significant repeats

« Last post by Fiend on Yesterday at 09:53:31 pm »

Get that to the Shaunawad thread ASAP! Top stuff 

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music, art and culture / Re: Assisted Dying, UK Parliament

« Last post by seankenny on Yesterday at 08:57:16 pm »

I am completely torn on this question. I totally agree with many posters in their support - a close relative is currently undergoing an undignified and degrading end to life, and naturally that’s deeply upsetting.

But… in the last few years I’ve had a peek into the world of chronic illness and disability, and it’s been fairly shocking. It brings out people’s inhumanity, to the point that losing friends and relations is an absolutely standard experience that almost everyone endures. The post-2010 austerity programme hit disabled people particularly hard, and really, who cared? Do I trust our society to treat disabled people with compassion if we have the tool of state sponsored suicide to hand? I’m afraid I don’t. Our society thoughtlessly throws people inside stinking deadly jails, or lets them rot in tent cities on the streets. It’s not hard to imagine us being pretty casual about assisted dying too.

As an aside, or perhaps something in tandem with Ben’s article above, I can recommend Tolstoy’s Death of Ivan Illyich which touches on similar themes.

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news / Re: significant repeats

« Last post by jakaitch on Yesterday at 08:15:07 pm »

Shauna has repeated The Boss https://www.instagram.com/p/C6b-lFlKj8r/?igsh=cDJwcnI2aW51dHlx