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Title: Boulder Britain
Post by: Dave Flanagan on October 22, 2011, 12:50:03 pm
I see on http://twitter.com/#!/grimerclimber (http://twitter.com/#!/grimerclimber)that Grimer has send his book Boulder Britain to the printers. Can't wait to see it. Anyone have more info about it?
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: Dr T on October 22, 2011, 05:55:15 pm
helped proof a little bit of it - what I saw was  :2thumbsup:
gonna be good I think
the sort of thing that gives you a good intro to an area
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: Dr T on November 24, 2011, 05:26:49 pm
It's close  :clap2: (http://boulderbritain.com/)
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: danm on November 24, 2011, 06:35:33 pm
The proofs I've seen look really good. I hope it sells well cos the tall Irish one has worked his arse off to get it produced.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: SA Chris on November 25, 2011, 08:57:02 am
Sounds like a great idea. Looking forward to extensive coverage of Scottish areas!
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: grimer on November 25, 2011, 10:07:50 am
Hi Chris,

the Scottish stuff isn't so extensive, mainly designed to get you to the best stuff in each area. many reasons for this, perhaps the most important being that if I'd tried to give deeper coverage then I'd never have got the book done (see the Applecross section in the sample spreads on the website for an example). I know now how the Roman Empire felt.

Having said that, despite shallower coverage, I think the Scottish chapter is perhaps the most inspiring.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: andy_e on November 25, 2011, 10:18:22 am
Looks good. Great work Grimer!

(P.S. That Applecross picture makes me want to go there. A lot. Spring pre-midge trip perhaps?
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: ShortRound on November 25, 2011, 10:31:33 am
Grimer,

I've requested a copy for Christmas but am too impatient to find out the answer to this question:

Does the Craig Y Longridge section have picture topos? And does it have lines of the various traverses on the topos too?

Many thanks
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: Big Dave on November 25, 2011, 10:47:08 am
Looks good, I see from the preview Harmer's wood is in there too!

Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: GCW on November 25, 2011, 10:51:54 am
Grimer,

I've requested a copy for Christmas but am too impatient to find out the answer to this question:

Does the Craig Y Longridge section have picture topos? And does it have lines of the various traverses on the topos too?

Many thanks

This should be addressed in the new Brick.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: ShortRound on November 25, 2011, 10:57:52 am

Ah, excellent.

Is there an estimated delivery time for that?

 :worms:
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: Fiend on November 25, 2011, 10:58:10 am
Grimer's right, Scotland has some very inspiring stuff but it is bloody obscure and obtuse to find good information on it with the combination of the Scottish Bouldering's inaccuracies/omissions and the general insularity of local scenes.

IIRC all sections have colour topos?
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: GCW on November 25, 2011, 11:01:57 am

Ah, excellent.

Is there an estimated delivery time for that?

 :worms:

January 2008.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: SA Chris on November 25, 2011, 11:03:55 am
Hi Chris,

the Scottish stuff isn't so extensive, mainly designed to get you to the best stuff in each area.
So Glen Clova then :)

I will pre order and if you have left it out I will travel down and beat you over the head with it!
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: grimer on November 25, 2011, 12:35:11 pm
If you order off the website www.boulderbritain.com (http://www.boulderbritain.com) you'll get it in time for Christmas (arrive with me on 12 December).

Yes, colour lines for Longridge, but it's very much just a selection for a first visit. I'll try to put that page on issuu later.

Yes, Glen Clova's in, at least how to get there and what you'll find.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: SA Chris on November 25, 2011, 12:47:51 pm
Ordered.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: grimer on November 25, 2011, 02:35:28 pm
So, here a bit

http://issuu.com/niallgrimes/docs/boulder_britain_issuu2 (http://issuu.com/niallgrimes/docs/boulder_britain_issuu2)

Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: GCW on November 25, 2011, 02:42:25 pm
That's just a pic of Tanners hanging the starting jug of Big Marine, with his left hand on the sidepull.  I see no evidence that he's done Super Submarine   :P

Looks good though, although I thought KTRE started lower along the crimp rail rather than dropping in from the jugs?
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: ShortRound on November 25, 2011, 03:24:28 pm

So, here a bit

http://issuu.com/niallgrimes/docs/boulder_britain_issuu2 (http://issuu.com/niallgrimes/docs/boulder_britain_issuu2)



Brilliant, Thanks Niall.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: Greg C on November 25, 2011, 04:01:47 pm
Is the Longridge section you have put on issuu complete? If so it might have been worth explaining that Big Marine and Smeg City are jump starts, at the given grades at least. The fact that you have omitted Submarine, plumping only for the sitter further confuses matters. This may sound pedantic but I think even in a select guide you need to explain the classics well. Apologies if all is explained on some missing page.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: slackline on November 25, 2011, 04:04:11 pm
Is the Longridge section a 3m fold out? :clown:
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: Doylo on November 25, 2011, 04:06:32 pm
I like seeing Wales in font grades,  :great:
effort grime
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: grimer on November 25, 2011, 04:11:01 pm
Hi Greg, no, I'm afraid that's it. I don't think it's pedantic at all. I ran it past a coupl of Longridge regulars but they never mentioned the jump start. Hopefully people will work it out but if I reprint I will make that clear.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: moose on November 25, 2011, 04:46:54 pm
Is the Longridge section you have put on issuu complete? If so it might have been worth explaining that Big Marine and Smeg City are jump starts...  even in a select guide you need to explain the classics well. Apologies if all is explained on some missing page.

Maybe the "select" refers to the intended clientele, rather than the problems?  I reckon the guide is only intended for people of 6'3" plus who can reach the starting crimps of Big Marine.  Grimer, I salute your commerical daring!
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: tommytwotone on November 25, 2011, 10:45:47 pm
Is the Longridge section you have put on issuu complete? If so it might have been worth explaining that Big Marine and Smeg City are jump starts...  even in a select guide you need to explain the classics well. Apologies if all is explained on some missing page.

Maybe the "select" refers to the intended clientele, rather than the problems?  I reckon the guide is only intended for people of 6'3" plus....

I do hope he's downgraded all the dynos in it then!
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: nai on November 26, 2011, 09:19:00 pm
Looks good though, although I thought KTRE started lower along the crimp rail rather than dropping in from the jugs?

Yes, the whole thing should come across the pillar-like feature in the break at the same level as the rest of the traverse.  Although just starting on the low crimp on the RHS of it is the best option.

But great selection of problems, definitely the right ones for occasional visitors.  Look forward to seeing the rest of the book.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: grimer on November 29, 2011, 09:56:02 am
Here's the index to give an idea of coverage

http://issuu.com/niallgrimes/docs/boulder_britain_contents (http://issuu.com/niallgrimes/docs/boulder_britain_contents)
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: douglas on November 29, 2011, 11:57:57 am
Here's the index to give an idea of coverage

http://issuu.com/niallgrimes/docs/boulder_britain_contents (http://issuu.com/niallgrimes/docs/boulder_britain_contents)

Sorry to be a pain grimer but very roughly what sort of percentage of boulders featured are 7 and up?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: grimer on November 29, 2011, 12:20:16 pm
I just did a random search of some random spreads and found there were 72 < 7A and 25 > 7A. Then i checked the issuu download sample and found 202 < 7A and 56 > 7A.

I mean, have a look at the samples yourself, I'm sure they'tre fairly representative, but from those figures it looks like 3/4 under 7A and 1/4 over.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: Adam Lincoln on November 29, 2011, 03:15:04 pm
Is the Longridge section you have put on issuu complete? If so it might have been worth explaining that Big Marine and Smeg City are jump starts, at the given grades at least. The fact that you have omitted Submarine, plumping only for the sitter further confuses matters. This may sound pedantic but I think even in a select guide you need to explain the classics well. Apologies if all is explained on some missing page.

People start Big marine off a ladder too. Didn't cross my mind to mention this to Grimer. So that's more my fault my Grimers. Sorry guys.  :sorry:
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: Beastly Squirrel on December 08, 2011, 08:47:15 pm
Imputed few photos and saw little preview of the guide - looks really good!   :w00t:
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: cofe on December 12, 2011, 12:03:36 pm
Got a copy of this and on first glance it's looking pretty ace. Going to need a couple of big poos to really give it a good going over. Nice work Niall.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: Offwidth on December 12, 2011, 03:55:15 pm
"Going to need a couple of big poos to really give it a good going over."

Pre-preparation for good books?:

Quality         prep
0                   watch a slimming advert
1                   a few grapes               
2                   brocolli
3                   home cook curry
4                   superhot take-away curry with all the trimmings
5                   box of all-bran
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: SA Chris on December 12, 2011, 04:42:42 pm
Maybe guidebooks come with a winnit rating, depending how long you spend reading them?
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: dobbin on December 13, 2011, 10:10:33 am
is not wiping straight away that causes winnit development then?
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: dave on December 13, 2011, 10:20:44 am
Anecdotally I've never noticed any correlation between guidebook time and clagnut development.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: Dolly on December 13, 2011, 10:33:11 am
Grimer dropped it off last night (you should have popped in and said hello) and two poos in I'd say it looks great.

First impressions are that
a) Some of the photos are "best in class"
b) The crag intros are written in such a Grimertastic way that you want to go there now


More info and updates as I have more time to read/poo
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: benpritch on December 13, 2011, 12:03:06 pm
got mine at 9.30 last night. was a lovely surprise. thanks grimer, great piece of work and will be in the van permanently.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: SA Chris on December 13, 2011, 12:35:33 pm
is not wiping straight away that causes winnit development then?

I think there is potential for development, depending on consistency. As dave says though, any correlation at this stage is pure conjecture without in depth research.
Title: Boulder Britain
Post by: Oldmanmatt on December 13, 2011, 01:31:59 pm
is not wiping straight away that causes winnit development then?

I think there is potential for development, depending on consistency. As dave says though, any correlation at this stage is pure conjecture without in depth research.

Moist toilet tissue extends reading time before clagnut onset.
But not as much as a Bidet...
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: Dr T on December 13, 2011, 06:29:01 pm
Will be waiting for the postie tomorrow morning....
might well have a hi-bran cereal in preparation too...
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: Duma on December 15, 2011, 05:38:06 am
Just to say the pic on p329 is awesome.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: grimer on December 15, 2011, 09:44:54 am
Ah thanks I like that one :-)
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: cofe on December 15, 2011, 10:14:58 am
lovely shot. the topo photo top left on the following page is also a classic.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: grimer on December 15, 2011, 10:59:55 am
Oh yeah, that was the day before Ramadam and I'd a great chat with those brothers.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: macca7 on December 15, 2011, 06:37:03 pm
Sounds superb can't wait to get mine have they all been dispatched yet? :please:

Cheers Macca
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: grimer on December 15, 2011, 07:43:05 pm
Yes they have macca, all envelopes stuffed and stamps licked. My tongue feels a bit  :jaw:
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: Richie Crouch on December 24, 2011, 11:08:44 am
I've had it for a couple of days and have barely put it down.

Great work Niall. It has already created enough inspiration to visit the Breck over the Winter if we get enough dry days to attempt the Haston Dyno  :thumbsup:

I'm quite keen for a visit down to the SW again to check out Godrevy and Clodgy after the savaging we received from Dartmoor last time around  :whip:

Solid effort with the book, it may lead to less trips abroad and more exploration closer to home!
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: highrepute on December 25, 2011, 06:47:18 pm
gf has got a copy and I also think it's brill. So much psyche for so many venues now

I'm quite keen for a visit down to the SW again to check out Godrevy and Clodgy after the savaging we received from Dartmoor last time around  :whip:

Proved useful on our little trip down to cornwall. Clodgy is really good, Godrevy looks much better but was wet for us so didn't manage to do any climbing there. We also checked out tintagal which I'd say is fairly tidal despite what the guide says, looked good. For areas like cornwall, that are only loosely documented, it's great to have one guide detailing it all.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: rginns on December 25, 2011, 07:50:25 pm
Got my copy today, blown away by the quality photos and obscurity of some of the crags, it's certainly a book to inspire trips. A shame that one or two other Lancashire crags weren't included other than the uber popular brownstones and CyL, good as they are, but I guess you can't include everything, a minor quibble...
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: tommytwotone on December 25, 2011, 08:19:38 pm
+1 to all the positive comments, got my copy today too, and even got a special Xmas bonus as it would appear that (albeit only my back on one of the boulder pics), I'm in it!

Cheers, Grimer - can't imagine the amount of effort / time that went into putting the book together, sure it'll be a firm favourite for a long while to come.

 
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: granticus on December 25, 2011, 09:50:07 pm
I concur the guide is fantastic, greffort Grimer!

[/quote] Proved useful on our little trip down to cornwall. Clodgy is really good, Godrevy looks much better but was wet for us so didn't manage to do any climbing there. We also checked out tintagal which I'd say is fairly tidal despite what the guide says, looked good. For areas like cornwall, that are only loosely documented, it's great to have one guide detailing it all.[/quote]

High Repute - Good beta for most of the coastal venues down yer guide is to check the swell forecast as some of 'non-tidal' venues will get splashed a little if there is a big swell running.  Last few weeks there have been endless big waves produced by the endless run of storms that have been hitting us after crossing the Atlantic.  I'm assured that, if there aren't big waves lashing the coast, Tintagel will have something boulderable at most stages of tide.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: highrepute on December 25, 2011, 10:53:26 pm
Last few weeks there have been endless big waves produced by the endless run of storms that have been hitting us after crossing the Atlantic.  I'm assured that, if there aren't big waves lashing the coast, Tintagel will have something boulderable at most stages of tide.

suspect that'll be it then. Don't want to put peeps off going cos I said it was wet once. Looked quality.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: daprince on December 29, 2011, 01:37:07 pm
Another review if you haven't bought a copy yet.


http://ticktock2011.blogspot.com/2011/12/boulder-britain-grimers-fairytale.html (http://ticktock2011.blogspot.com/2011/12/boulder-britain-grimers-fairytale.html)
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: Dave Flanagan on December 29, 2011, 02:48:30 pm
Saw a copy over Christmas. Fantastic job Grimer. Must of been some amount of work.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: hairich on December 30, 2011, 08:39:57 pm
i love it grimer
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: grimer on December 30, 2011, 10:42:02 pm
i love you rich   ;)

Seriously, warmest thanks to you all for your positive vibes, much appreciated.

Big thanks to all here on UKB who helped out and for the generosity of spiritI came across doing it,


Niall   :)
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: r-man on December 30, 2011, 11:01:44 pm
A shame that one or two other Lancashire crags weren't included other than the uber popular brownstones and CyL, good as they are, but I guess you can't include everything, a minor quibble...

Think that was partly my fault. Grimer did ask me if there was anything worth including two or three years ago. At the time, less had been developed and I got the (obviously wrong) impression it was just about major venues, though perhaps places like Stronstrey would fit in amongst the more obscure crags (my copy hasn't arrived yet, so I'm just guessing). I'd revise my answer these days - the Wiltons rival Longridge and Brownstones, and there are a few decent smaller venues. Something for the next edition!
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: Offwidth on December 31, 2011, 10:21:34 am
Moff is guarding her copy fiercely so the 'one Bouldering Britain' token I got from my sister-in-laws family for Xmas needs cashing in fast. Moff also noticed that Amazon have slightly discounted the book already, despite having no stock, I'd be interested in seeing how that one works.
Title: Boulder Britain
Post by: Oldmanmatt on December 31, 2011, 10:28:18 am
Mine's on order...
Mid Jan the site said...
I wonder, if I will have any nails left, by the time it gets here?
Title: Boulder Britain
Post by: Oldmanmatt on January 03, 2012, 10:41:26 pm
Actually....
Does anyone think it's going to stop raining long enough for this to anything other than a coffee table book?
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: SA Chris on January 04, 2012, 10:01:44 am
In spite of plenty of hint dropping I didn't get it for Xmas (only got Full of Myself, Cold Wars & Troll Wall!)

The Boulder Britain website says more stock mid Jan, but outside claim to have it on stock now. Grimer, do you lose out by much if I buy it from Outside? If so I can wait 'til it's in stock on your site again.
Title: Boulder Britain
Post by: Oldmanmatt on January 04, 2012, 10:06:16 am
I can wait, and Ta for the mail...
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: Grubes on January 04, 2012, 10:10:48 am
The Boulder Britain website says more stock mid Jan, but outside claim to have it on stock now. Grimer, do you lose out by much if I buy it from Outside? If so I can wait 'til it's in stock on your site again.
They had 5/6 copies in stock at the works when I was there last week but not been in since wednesday so not sure if they will still have some stock
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: grimer on January 04, 2012, 10:23:00 am
Hi Chris,

I make more when I sell it direct but such is my relationship with licking stamps and stuffing envelopes these days that I wouldn't be offended if you snapped one up if you saw it.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: SA Chris on January 04, 2012, 10:40:11 am
I hear you. I think alcohol can be used to get glue off your tongue.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: Monolith on January 04, 2012, 12:15:58 pm
The sort of guidebook you can take home to your mum. Fantastic work Grimer. Really enjoyed a quick leaf through Crouchies when I saw his preview copy.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: grimer on January 04, 2012, 01:36:43 pm
Thank you Monolith, and tghink how much you'd enjoy it if you owned it  ;)
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: nik at work on January 04, 2012, 01:50:30 pm
A great guidebook, I've really enjoyed reading it and getting inspiration over the last several trips to the "reading room".
Nice one Grimer.
And I now have a photograph taken by me in a guidebook, I never thought I'd manage that :2thumbsup: (it's probably the worst photo in the book though...)
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: SA Chris on January 04, 2012, 02:06:33 pm
I'm in it!


One of your 3 ambitions ticked then?
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: tommytwotone on January 04, 2012, 04:08:42 pm
I'm in it!


One of your 3 ambitions ticked then?

Kind of...I meant a "full page" type photo - not sure if my having been on one of the boulder photos counts!

Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: SA Chris on January 04, 2012, 04:14:57 pm
You set youself such high standards!

(I've ticked all 3 of your ambitions btw, more fluke and right time right place than anything else!).
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: SA Chris on January 05, 2012, 11:54:48 am
Well Outside outdid themselves and got it to me overnight in spite of it being on their standard free delivery.

But they have been outshone by Grimer, who has produced a truly excellent guide, which keeps distracting me from my deadlines! Well done, seriously inspiring piece of work.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: Monolith on January 05, 2012, 12:36:25 pm
Thank you Monolith, and tghink how much you'd enjoy it if you owned it  ;)

I will indeed be purchasing asap. I think Richie's may have been a proof copy pre general sale? It was wonderful though, congratulations again! Yet more problems to perve over  :clap2:
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: BenF on January 06, 2012, 07:30:53 am
I think Richie's may have been a proof copy pre general sale?

I doubt it, Rich couldn't proof read his own brith certificate.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: SA Chris on January 06, 2012, 08:08:36 am
A Scouser with a Birth Certificate? He's a rare one indeed.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: BenF on January 06, 2012, 12:23:45 pm
A Scouser with a Birth Certificate? He's a rare one indeed.

I think Rich just came with a warranty and model number.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: Monolith on January 06, 2012, 12:49:32 pm
I think Rich just came with a warranty and model number.

+mutated metabolic system and onboard hustling mechanism.
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: Jaspersharpe on January 09, 2012, 05:22:05 pm
Has someone got a book out?
Title: Re: Boulder Britain
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 09, 2012, 06:22:59 pm
Has someone got a book out?

it's about climbing outside, you wouldn't find it interesting
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