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the shizzle => news => Topic started by: Wellsy on November 22, 2023, 07:18:20 pm
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Apparently this shoe is sick but there's only going to be a thousand pairs.
Is it just me or is that actually just really quite shitty? Like proper contrived scarcity?
Thoughts from the scattered neurons of the UKB mind please
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They're making them because people will buy them. At the end of the day Scarpa are a business that is trying to make money, if you've got time to do a run of shoes that you can sell for an inflated cost why wouldn't you ?
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From what I've been told, BananaFingers approached Scarpa to make them a limited set. So it's exclusive to BF, and their marketing ploy.
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It's just an Instinct Slipper with "marketing fairy dust". No thanks.
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Sounds as appealing to me as a Moncler collab :wank:
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sell for an inflated cost
Yes agree, it's absolutely disgusting. That extra £0.96 going into their grubby little corporate pockets is all the evidence I need of their sinful greed.
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Looks just like the slipper, with the old place up (parrot coloured) toe, in black. Its absence in my quiver probably isn't the reason I fall off things, but you never know.
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It's just an Instinct Slipper with "marketing fairy dust". No thanks.
They look quite different in shape to the new instinct slippers, particularly the toe box, looks to be a close replica of the much beloved old orange ones
Links for comparison
https://bananafingers.co.uk/scarpa-instinct-le
https://bananafingers.co.uk/scarpa-instinct-s-1
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I’m gonna buy two pairs now to annoy all the grumpy farts on here
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2013… the Instinct Slipper is Carlisle Slappers favourite board shoe, perfect for all the slippy wood domes and for falling off The Rail. But being a wise man, Dan knew that the shoe’s time was limited. What to do?
He’d always been good at projecting. Time for the best one yet.
Young Aidan Roberts had been looking hot on the comps and was perfectly placed for having an inside man at Scarpa. All that was necessary was to steer him into the path of greatness, and therefore influence. What could be greater than domination of the Lakes rat crimp projects? Dan rubbed his hands gleefully, before knocking out another 100kg 3 finger drag hang. Even McLeod couldn’t pull off something this audacious.
In a Scarpa design team meeting a mere decade later, the new lord of the crimps is on his knees in front of Heinz Mariacher, pressing his Friction Labs stained hands together in prayer.
“Please Heinz. I’ll do anything. I NEED those slippers for my new project, ‘Burden of Awkward Silence’. There has to be a way!”
Heinz relents, raising Aidan’s trembling chin with the fresh edge of an Instinct Lace.
“There will be a shoe, boy. I see… A limited run. Yes, that will work well. But what colour…?”
Aidan swallows, trying not to sound too eager. “How about… all black?”
Heinz furrows his brow, then nods. “Yes… I like it! Black it is. We’ll keep it to a thousand pairs. That’s almost enough to get Ondra through a week-long slab project.”
Aidan nods gratefully and retreats, his heart pounding as he fantasises telling his master about his success. After a mere two weeks of hitchhiking in only electric vehicles, he arrives in the hallowed ground of the Lakes.
He finds his master crouching sombrely amongst the Kentmere boulders, gazing upon the 8mm flakes of Shadowplay. Faint chalk marks are still visible, from when Bosi fondled the holds and declared them useable. Sacrilege. Only the G could use such holds.
His master speaks, without turning.
“Is it done?”
“It’s done. A thousand pairs. All in black.”
Dan smiles, a leer of yellowed teeth rotten from too many flapjacks consumed amongst the cursed rocks of Christianbury whilst plotting his scheme.
“At last. It returns. I always had faith. The G provides.”
He lets out a long sigh. “My great work is complete. You are no longer my apprentice. Go. Climb trad, as you always wished.”
Dan didn’t turn to watch his ex-apprentice slip away amongst the ferns, though he heard the clank as the boy started to rack hexes on his harness.
Instead he stared once more upon the holds of Shadowplay, so small and sharp that they could cut through reality itself, warping the past, present and future. He spoke into the void, his words rippling between the chalk into somewhere else, somewhere where it was always 5am and power was limitless.
“Have I pleased you, lord?”
The void stayed silent, as always. The G never spoke back. But inside his mind, a vision rippled. A tall leaning prow, perfectly positioned amongst the Lake District fells. Holds dotted the line, which was just about possible to highball, if you were willing to risk everything. Dan gasped at the beauty. He knew he had been rewarded.
“Thank you, my lord!”
The perfect shoe, and the perfect line. The G provided. He always had.
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looks to be a close replica of the much beloved old orange ones
Links for comparison
Aye, fair cop. Quite liked the old slipper...
I'd heard the might do a similar small run of Gen1 Boostics.
Mischa - love it.
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High quality shitposting
2013… the Instinct Slipper is Carlisle Slappers favourite board shoe, perfect for all the slippy wood domes and for falling off The Rail. But being a wise man, Dan knew that the shoe’s time was limited. What to do?
He’d always been good at projecting. Time for the best one yet.
Young Aidan Roberts had been looking hot on the comps and was perfectly placed for having an inside man at Scarpa. All that was necessary was to steer him into the path of greatness, and therefore influence. What could be greater than domination of the Lakes rat crimp projects? Dan rubbed his hands gleefully, before knocking out another 100kg 3 finger drag hang. Even McLeod couldn’t pull off something this audacious.
In a Scarpa design team meeting a mere decade later, the new lord of the crimps is on his knees in front of Heinz Mariacher, pressing his Friction Labs stained hands together in prayer.
“Please Heinz. I’ll do anything. I NEED those slippers for my new project, ‘Burden of Awkward Silence’. There has to be a way!”
Heinz relents, raising Aidan’s trembling chin with the fresh edge of an Instinct Lace.
“There will be a shoe, boy. I see… A limited run. Yes, that will work well. But what colour…?”
Aidan swallows, trying not to sound too eager. “How about… all black?”
Heinz furrows his brow, then nods. “Yes… I like it! Black it is. We’ll keep it to a thousand pairs. That’s almost enough to get Ondra through a week-long slab project.”
Aidan nods gratefully and retreats, his heart pounding as he fantasises telling his master about his success. After a mere two weeks of hitchhiking in only electric vehicles, he arrives in the hallowed ground of the Lakes.
He finds his master crouching sombrely amongst the Kentmere boulders, gazing upon the 8mm flakes of Shadowplay. Faint chalk marks are still visible, from when Bosi fondled the holds and declared them useable. Sacrilege. Only the G could use such holds.
His master speaks, without turning.
“Is it done?”
“It’s done. A thousand pairs. All in black.”
Dan smiles, a leer of yellowed teeth rotten from too many flapjacks consumed amongst the cursed rocks of Christianbury whilst plotting his scheme.
“At last. It returns. I always had faith. The G provides.”
He lets out a long sigh. “My great work is complete. You are no longer my apprentice. Go. Climb trad, as you always wished.”
Dan didn’t turn to watch his ex-apprentice slip away amongst the ferns, though he heard the clank as the boy started to rack hexes on his harness.
Instead he stared once more upon the holds of Shadowplay, so small and sharp that they could cut through reality itself, warping the past, present and future. He spoke into the void, his words rippling between the chalk into somewhere else, somewhere where it was always 5am and power was limitless.
“Have I pleased you, lord?”
The void stayed silent, as always. The G never spoke back. But inside his mind, a vision rippled. A tall leaning prow, perfectly positioned amongst the Lake District fells. Holds dotted the line, which was just about possible to highball, if you were willing to risk everything. Dan gasped at the beauty. He knew he had been rewarded.
“Thank you, my lord!”
The perfect shoe, and the perfect line. The G provided. He always had.
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Any idea how many Scarpa produce in a typical run of a specialist shoe, in other words how limited is 1000?
It looks like a New Zealand version of the old orange Instinct S, adding another layer of something on the toe under the rubber T. The description mentions a 3/4 length plastic insert rather than 1/2 length in the current S. Does this fit with it being a refreshed orange? Reviving an old model makes a lot more sense than building something completely new and fits with the new/old Boostic rumours. Perhaps they are seeing how this one goes before committing to the latter?
Misha :2thumbsup:
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They're making them because people will buy them. At the end of the day Scarpa are a business that is trying to make money, if you've got time to do a run of shoes that you can sell for an inflated cost why wouldn't you ?
Sure I can appreciate that, but also surely as consumers we're allowed to discuss the actions of companies in the climbing industry and if we think they're acting in a negative way, say so?
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Is this the start of limited edition / signature edition / colab climbing shoes like the trainer market? Will a pair of these in "box fresh" condition be worth a fortune.
Slightly OT, but I saw a guy getting climbing instruction at our local wall, wearing what looked like a brand new pair of Boreal Aces. Felt like seeing a pristine classic car on the road, driven by a teenager.
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Given these are the same price as a normal pair of scarpas I don't really see what the issue is? I'd even go the other way: it's kinda cool if it lets them try out some ideas that might be too risky to make it in to the main line up.
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They want us (consumers) to have a ‘conversation’.
Echoes of the Adidas Adios Pro Evo 1 $500 super shoe release. A marathon racer that apparently lasts one or two races, which they limited the availability of. Stick it on some pros and supply the odd Influencer. Bingo!
The difference being this is cheaper than a standard Instinct S.
Or maybe it’s just a massive on-line retailer wondering how they can compete with Scarpa’s direct sales.
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Is this the start of limited edition / signature edition / colab climbing shoes like the trainer market?
Not really the start, more the latest in a long line.
There's been limited edition Miuras, Shamans, and probably plenty of others that I've forgotten, that were collaborations with famous climbers.
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High quality shitposting
2013… the Instinct Slipper is Carlisle Slappers favourite board shoe, perfect for all the slippy wood domes and for falling off The Rail. But being a wise man, Dan knew that the shoe’s time was limited. What to do?
He’d always been good at projecting. Time for the best one yet.
Young Aidan Roberts had been looking hot on the comps and was perfectly placed for having an inside man at Scarpa. All that was necessary was to steer him into the path of greatness, and therefore influence. What could be greater than domination of the Lakes rat crimp projects? Dan rubbed his hands gleefully, before knocking out another 100kg 3 finger drag hang. Even McLeod couldn’t pull off something this audacious.
In a Scarpa design team meeting a mere decade later, the new lord of the crimps is on his knees in front of Heinz Mariacher, pressing his Friction Labs stained hands together in prayer.
“Please Heinz. I’ll do anything. I NEED those slippers for my new project, ‘Burden of Awkward Silence’. There has to be a way!”
Heinz relents, raising Aidan’s trembling chin with the fresh edge of an Instinct Lace.
“There will be a shoe, boy. I see… A limited run. Yes, that will work well. But what colour…?”
Aidan swallows, trying not to sound too eager. “How about… all black?”
Heinz furrows his brow, then nods. “Yes… I like it! Black it is. We’ll keep it to a thousand pairs. That’s almost enough to get Ondra through a week-long slab project.”
Aidan nods gratefully and retreats, his heart pounding as he fantasises telling his master about his success. After a mere two weeks of hitchhiking in only electric vehicles, he arrives in the hallowed ground of the Lakes.
He finds his master crouching sombrely amongst the Kentmere boulders, gazing upon the 8mm flakes of Shadowplay. Faint chalk marks are still visible, from when Bosi fondled the holds and declared them useable. Sacrilege. Only the G could use such holds.
His master speaks, without turning.
“Is it done?”
“It’s done. A thousand pairs. All in black.”
Dan smiles, a leer of yellowed teeth rotten from too many flapjacks consumed amongst the cursed rocks of Christianbury whilst plotting his scheme.
“At last. It returns. I always had faith. The G provides.”
He lets out a long sigh. “My great work is complete. You are no longer my apprentice. Go. Climb trad, as you always wished.”
Dan didn’t turn to watch his ex-apprentice slip away amongst the ferns, though he heard the clank as the boy started to rack hexes on his harness.
Instead he stared once more upon the holds of Shadowplay, so small and sharp that they could cut through reality itself, warping the past, present and future. He spoke into the void, his words rippling between the chalk into somewhere else, somewhere where it was always 5am and power was limitless.
“Have I pleased you, lord?”
The void stayed silent, as always. The G never spoke back. But inside his mind, a vision rippled. A tall leaning prow, perfectly positioned amongst the Lake District fells. Holds dotted the line, which was just about possible to highball, if you were willing to risk everything. Dan gasped at the beauty. He knew he had been rewarded.
“Thank you, my lord!”
The perfect shoe, and the perfect line. The G provided. He always had.
All roads lead to G :great:
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Is this the start of limited edition / signature edition / colab climbing shoes like the trainer market?
Not really the start, more the latest in a long line.
There's been limited edition Miuras, Shamans, and probably plenty of others that I've forgotten, that were collaborations with famous climbers.
Have they been in that limited numbers though?
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They're making them because people will buy them. At the end of the day Scarpa are a business that is trying to make money, if you've got time to do a run of shoes that you can sell for an inflated cost why wouldn't you ?
Sure I can appreciate that, but also surely as consumers we're allowed to discuss the actions of companies in the climbing industry and if we think they're acting in a negative way, say so?
Absolutely.
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Its not the first time. Sportiva did the Ondra edition Miuras a few years back which combined the best bits of both the velcro and lace version, people loved them and then they stopped making them. I don't really see why its a negative though, its just a marketing stunt ultimately. Why does contrived scarcity matter?
I suppose I'm wondering why its morally any worse than eg. Gu running a delicious special edition cheesecake which I can sadly no longer buy.
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Is it a good tactic though? Surely scarpa would make more money if they produced eg 2000 pairs? Do they think they wouldn't be able to sell them all at that price?
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I don't really see why its a negative though, its just a marketing stunt ultimately. Why does contrived scarcity matter?
If that's in response to me, where did I say it was a bad thing? Compared tp fashion trainers it's a pretty niche market.
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Its not, its to the OP.
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Is it a good tactic though? Surely scarpa would make more money if they produced eg 2000 pairs? Do they think they wouldn't be able to sell them all at that price?
It is a bit odd, as why would they not be able to sell them given they're the same price as the standard Instinct slipper?
When I saw them advertised I figured they'd be on some sort of silly mark up, and was therefore amazed to find that they weren't.
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Right?? If it proves to be a good shoe, they could sell loads - after all, isn't that a pretty solid way to make money, by making a shoe that people like, and therefore want to buy?
Kinda odd to bother making an improved shoe and not capitalise on it with increase markup, and limit themselves to only selling a small number.
Only thing I can think is that maybe Bananafingers/Epictv have paid scarpa and scarpa just don't care, but that doesn't make loads of sense either tbh.
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Right?? If it proves to be a good shoe, they could sell loads - after all, isn't that a pretty solid way to make money, by making a shoe that people like, and therefore want to buy?
Kinda odd to bother making an improved shoe and not capitalise on it with increase markup, and limit themselves to only selling a small number.
Only thing I can think is that maybe Bananafingers/Epictv have paid scarpa and scarpa just don't care, but that doesn't make loads of sense either tbh.
Worth remembering that UKB is a bit of a bubble. I don't go to the wall and see loads of people in scarpa slippers, despite the fact they get good reviews here. From scarpa's point of view maybe it's a pretty specialist show that they don't think will sell that well compared to their mainstays.
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They might well be doing a special for the first season or what ever before a proper launch..
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Worth remembering that UKB is a bit of a bubble. I don't go to the wall and see loads of people in scarpa slippers, despite the fact they get good reviews here. From scarpa's point of view maybe it's a pretty specialist show that they don't think will sell that well compared to their mainstays.
How many times have you been to the wall this year Remus? (Your garage doesn't count)
;-)
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I'm a changed man Duma, I've been to 3 real climbing walls in the last 3 weeks for a total of 6 sessions. Just lining up an attempt on the depot challenge.
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Moonboard - Kilter - Motherboard - Moonboard - Kilter - Motherboard
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Now, if BF could get Scarpa to do a limited run of the OG Stix in, oh, I dunno, all black, then count me in for all of them in a 38.5
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Now we're talking.
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I'd also take all 1000 pairs in a limited run of the Booster S and at least 100 of the old red instinct laces :please:
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all black
"How much more black could this be? And the answer is none. None more black"
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I'm down to my last pair of the original orange Instinct S, so I am quite tempted to get some of these as I love the originals. My worry is how much have they changed it?
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I'm down to my last pair of the original orange Instinct S, so I am quite tempted to get some of these as I love the originals. My worry is how much have they changed it?
If you mean the orange version that looked very much like the LE, it's principally the same shoe, bar a new microfibre upper (due to the original fabric supplier going out of business) and the toe patch being upgraded to the stickier M50 rubber (as per Instinct VSR) over Vibram.
It's significantly different to the predecessor of the current Instinct S (which was orange and blue).
The LE is simply a limited run remake of a good climbing shoe a lot of people liked. It came about in part off the back of requests for it from climbers at shoe demos and athletes lamenting its loss.
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Well everyone is talking about it so Mountain Boot must be happy eh Greg!
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I'm down to my last pair of the original orange Instinct S, so I am quite tempted to get some of these as I love the originals. My worry is how much have they changed it?
If you mean the orange version that looked very much like the LE, it's principally the same shoe, bar a new microfibre upper (due to the original fabric supplier going out of business) and the toe patch being upgraded to the stickier M50 rubber (as per Instinct VSR) over Vibram.
It's significantly different to the predecessor of the current Instinct S (which was orange and blue).
I can't see what all the hoo-ha aimed at this shoe is about. It's simply a limited run remake of a good climbing shoe a lot of people liked. It came about in part off the back of requests for it from climbers at shoe demos and athletes lamenting its loss.
I’ve got a request. Take the Boostic and make it as stiff as the Instinct VS or LU so they don’t have to be ridiculously small to be stiff. You’d have a good trad shoe then.
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It came about in part off the back of requests for it from climbers at shoe demos and athletes lamenting its loss.
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Rhineland-Palatinate, 2022. The Scarpa Germany athletes are gathered amongst the red sandstone towers, supping ice-cold Tannenzäpfler around a roaring fire. Tim gazes fondly over his mighty hoard, assembled from comp climbers and teenage tradheads he'd been on the piss with at the Pfalzfest last year. Soon the tradsters would tempt the others away from the path of plastic, and sales of the upcoming Generator would go through the roof.
It was all going to plan. Or rather, it should have been. Something was off. Tim elbowed Timm, who was engaged in a deep move-by-move description of his latest crack project with a green eared comp climber whose eyes had long since glazed over.
"Und wenn du schafts diese Zug, muss du sofort die schwarze Totem legen, sonnst... Ja?"
Tim gestured towards the gathered athletes, speaking english for the sake of the narrative.
"They're all so quiet. Do you know what's going on?"
Hopefully they hadn't lost another alpinist. It was getting more and more expensive to keep paying all the paternity leave.
Timm ran his fingers through his long blonde hair, a light dusting of sand and pine needles falling to his shoulders.
"I think they've been talking with that weird Englander. You know, the one that's good on crimps. They keep going on about an old shoe... Some kind of Instinct Slipper?
He shrugged and turned back to his companion, who was tugging perplexedly at the triggers of a ballnut. Tim gazed a moment longer at the group of huddled athletes, conversing in hushed tones, then shook his head and pressed himself awkwardly out of his 270€ Helinox swinging camp chair that he'd managed to blag from the cute sales rep at ISPO. The chair was made for absorbing into the nylon folds and never getting up again, but he extracted himself after a few moments of struggle and wandered across to the hushed group, who quickly fell silent and regarded him with hawkish eyes.
"Everything alright, guys? Enjoying the party?"
The athletes gazed back cautiously, then glanced towards one boulderer, his red mohican a sharp contrast to the baby-blue scarpa hoody wrapped around his shoulders. He raised his head pensively, and spoke.
"It must return."
Tim blinked, perplexed.
"Return? What must return?"
The group spoke as one, their voices echoing amongst the pine trees and across the high towers, carrying an odd resonance that lingered in the air.
"Instinct Black, Instinct Black, Instinct BLACK!"
They turned away once more, huddling closer in hushed yet frantic discussion. A wind rustled the branches above their heads, carrying a scent of sheep shit and wet moss on rock. For a moment, Tim was certain the muttering athletes were all bald, shaven skin glowing brightly in the 3am firelight. He shook his head once more and headed back into his camp chair, rocking comfortably back and forth. He glanced over at Timm and his comp-panion, who seemed to have fallen quiet.
"Weird evening, man."
Timm nodded fervently.
"The G will provide."
Tim frowned.
"What did you say?"
"I'm feeling pretty tired. Think I'll head to bed."
Tim nodded distractedly as the blonde tradster wandered away towards his battered yellow van, hand in hand with the comp climber. He glanced at the ground where they'd been sitting, and furrowed his brow. Microwires and cams were arranged artfully across the forest floor, suggesting the shape of a climbing shoe. It looked familiar...
The next day Tim cruised at a relaxed 300kph towards the Swiss border, the memories of the night half-forgotten. He focused on the design team meeting later that day, to feedback the wishes of the athlete team. He shivered, and pulled a wool beanie over his head, feeling an odd chill on his scalp. His hair must be getting thinner. What was it the team wanted again? Some kind of slipper?
Yes, that was it. A slipper. All in black.
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When truth is as strange as fiction; the marketing lead from Scarpa really is called Tim and my mate Timm did indeed get a Scarpa sponsorship after accidentally bumping into him (physically) whilst six pints deep at a Pfalzfest. As for the rest, feel free to sort the truth from the fiction ;D
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Kinda odd to bother making an improved shoe and not capitalise on it with increase markup, and limit themselves to only selling a small number.
...are you complaining about them not rinsing us with a mega markup?
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Kinda odd to bother making an improved shoe and not capitalise on it with increase markup, and limit themselves to only selling a small number.
...are you complaining about them not rinsing us with a mega markup?
Not exactly... just trying to understand the business decision behind it (as someone who doesn't know much about these kinds of thing). It seems like they've gone for low stock - which might not be great if it's a good shoe and lots of people like it - but also not crazy price - so they aren't earning as much from it as they could. Kinda lose lose? I suppose that's a negative spin, whereas you could argue it's win win - at least they actually did make them rather than not, and aren't charging a fortune. That's kinda what I was hoping to understand ;)
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Scarpa do make some interesting decisions.
Given the minor variances available, i always though they had a huge range of ski touring boots (ye I know a few are teli but still). Most people just get Maestrales. https://www.scarpa.co.uk/ski-boots/?pp=all-1&by=price-asc&attribute[0]=172-Men%2527s
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No inside info here so just speculating, but I'd guess they're testing how popular limited runs are (given they're hot shit in sneakers. There's a whole sub-culture of people who build automated tools for scalpers who buy up limited runs of nikes etc. and then resell them for a profit. Wild.) If they sell out super quick then great, loads of demand, they can try something similar again and try a higher price. Also good for them because it'll drive some order volume, and I assume they've priced it so they're not selling at a loss so volume = revenue = profit. Doesn't seem much risk of competing with other shoes in their lineup because they've only got one other shoe that's a little similar.
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Limited run climbing shoes is the worst and most disgusting idea ever. Shame on La Sportiva and Scarpa for pulling such a disgusting trainee-with-a-middling-marketing-major idea.
1. They are in the business of making climbing shoes, not fashion items
2. Resolers will not get used to the model before it vanish from the market, making it even more disposable than a climbing shoe already is
3. Buying a climbing shoe is an expensive commitment to a model that will be used for a long time. I would never buy a shoe from a brand that I do not trust to put out the same model for a long time, with enough production capacity to provide me with shoes when I need them, where I need them
4. That they even consider such a asshole idea makes me less likely to commit to their models in the future. The same buisness-school-major with a minor in asshattery might get the brilliant idea of lowering cost while increasing marketing cost and price and milk unsuspecting buyers to buy a few more shoes until we discover that we pay for crap, by which time the increased profit margins has made this a great racketering scheme for the company and shit for everybody else.
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Fucking hell jwi, point on the doll where the instinct LE touched you.
1. They are in the business of making climbing shoes, not fashion items
Maybe they want to try something out without committing to making it forever?
2. Resolers will not get used to the model before it vanish from the market, making it even more disposable than a climbing shoe already is
Really? I'm sure resolers can use their brain and do a decent job. These shoes are hardly a radical departure from footware as we know it.
3. Buying a climbing shoe is an expensive commitment to a model that will be used for a long time. I would never buy a shoe from a brand that I do not trust to put out the same model for a long time, with enough production capacity to provide me with shoes when I need them, where I need them
A model of shoe doesn't have to be a lifetime commitment. Maybe there's people out there who want to try something new and aren't too bothered if it's not going to be produced indefinitely.
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Early review; they're really rather good. The Instinct series always fit my feet very well anyway which obviously helps, but from a quick board session today they feel great, powerful through the big toe, sticky rubber, minimal dead space.
They feel like a slightly more aggressive and stiffer version of the VSRs, but with stickier rubber than the VSs, which I reckon is a perfect combo. Even did well on a couple of heel hooks (I know, on a board... sacrilege). Went for my normal size in VSRs, which seems good so far. Comfortable out of the box despite being tight etc.
Oh and I did my board project which I've been trying for 3 months, clearly all down to the shoes. I've already bought a second pair :tease:
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They’re the old orange slipper, I thought k (which I train with) but in black. Much more ninja frienfly.
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Ooh I’ve bought some for my winter season outfit. Black La Sportiva Jeans black baselayer black Armani t shirt and a lovely black Castelli merino beanie to top it off
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Not exactly... just trying to understand the business decision behind it (as someone who doesn't know much about these kinds of thing). It seems like they've gone for low stock - which might not be great if it's a good shoe and lots of people like it - but also not crazy price - so they aren't earning as much from it as they could. Kinda lose lose? I suppose that's a negative spin, whereas you could argue it's win win - at least they actually did make them rather than not, and aren't charging a fortune. That's kinda what I was hoping to understand ;)
I've got a sneaky suspicion that someone at BF just really likes climbing shoes! seems like a massive oversight not to bundle these with a pair of boot bananas
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Kinda odd to bother making an improved shoe and not capitalise on it with increase markup, and limit themselves to only selling a small number.
...are you complaining about them not rinsing us with a mega markup?
Not exactly... just trying to understand the business decision behind it (as someone who doesn't know much about these kinds of thing). It seems like they've gone for low stock - which might not be great if it's a good shoe and lots of people like it - but also not crazy price - so they aren't earning as much from it as they could. Kinda lose lose? I suppose that's a negative spin, whereas you could argue it's win win - at least they actually did make them rather than not, and aren't charging a fortune. That's kinda what I was hoping to understand ;)
It seems they’re ‘rolling the pitch’ for future limited editions.
And raising brand awareness - for e.g. this limited edition shoe has UKB talking more about a pair of shoes then I’ve ever seen since shark ran out of whites. So jwi’s ire at marketing apprentice incompetence is probably misplaced.
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Ooh I’ve bought some for my winter season outfit. Black La Sportiva Jeans black baselayer black Armani t shirt and a lovely black Castelli merino beanie to top it off
Is that you, Pep?
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Ooh I’ve bought some for my winter season outfit. Black La Sportiva Jeans black baselayer black Armani t shirt and a lovely black Castelli merino beanie to top it off
Perhaps consider getting one of these spaceships to get to the crag
It was so extremely dark that it was hard to make out the shape, and it was almost impossible to tell how close you were standing to it. Zaphod commented that the light "seemed to fall into it", and Ford said that his eyes seemed to slide off it. Zaphod repeatedly attempted to reach out and stroke the outside of the craft and feel the surface, however his hand was stopped, as it was totally frictionless. Zaphod called it "one mother of a mover".
Marvin was able to touch the surface of the ship and open up an entry hatchway, and the interior of the ship was completely black. There were black controls labelled in black, on a black background, with a little light that lit up black, which made it difficult to control the ship. [quote/]
https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Spacecraft#:~:text=Haggunenon%20Admiral%20ship%2FDisaster%20Area%20stunt%20ship,-This%20was%20a&text=It%20was%20admired%20by%20Zaphod,you%20were%20standing%20to%20it.
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Did anyone get my earlier Spinal Tap reference.
Also Capita Snowboards covered it;
https://eu.capitasnowboarding.com/products/the-black-snowboard-of-death-2024
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It seems they’re ‘rolling the pitch’ for future limited editions.
And raising brand awareness - for e.g. this limited edition shoe has UKB talking more about a pair of shoes then I’ve ever seen since shark ran out of whites. So jwi’s ire at marketing apprentice incompetence is probably misplaced.
Oh, I am sure it is working in the sense that it can create a buzz (bad and good). I have not thought about scarpa in forever, and now I remember that they exists and that I am irritated by their brand strategy. Soon I will just vaguely remember that Scarpa exists and forget that I hate limited runs nonsense.
However, a company exist for other reasons than to build a valuable brand.
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https://photos.app.goo.gl/LnaPUdusdmLqPrng8 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/LnaPUdusdmLqPrng8)Here's my today. Ignore the hat just for now and imagine how much better I would have looked with a totally black shoe on
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Me not my sorry
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Galaxy's Defender.
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https://photos.app.goo.gl/LnaPUdusdmLqPrng8 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/LnaPUdusdmLqPrng8)Here's my today. Ignore the hat just for now and imagine how much better I would have looked with a totally black shoe on
Ideal for a lamping session.
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I'll just leave this here
https://www.instagram.com/p/C0dtG8sC-3T/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
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Boots for treading… gingerly
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You reckon they just had a load of left over fabric from old projects?
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Had a couple of sessions in these now and growing to like them. The added stiffness seems to work well, as it feels like you can get a bit more power through the toe. The heels also seem pretty decent for a slipper, I think this might just be because they fit my heel fairly well though? I get a good vacuum suck when I'm taking them off
The main benefit though, and something I haven't seen discussed elsewhere, is that every time I put them on I feel a disturbance in the force as jwi cringes a little. A couple of times this has given me the edge to get up my project of choice for the day.