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Title: IFSC Euro Champs (Lead & Speed) streaming
Post by: GraemeA on June 30, 2017, 10:23:09 am
Streaming is on the event page http://www.ifsc-climbing.org/index.php/component/ifsc/?view=event&WetId=6411

Lead quals are on now and semis & finals tomorrow.
Title: Re: IFSC Euro Champs (Lead & Speed) streaming
Post by: Muenchener on June 30, 2017, 11:32:34 am
OK, bouldering scores I understand.

Can somebody please explain what Jessica Pilz's "43 2." means and why it is better than Janja's "Top 1."?
Title: Re: IFSC Euro Champs (Lead & Speed) streaming
Post by: jwi on June 30, 2017, 11:48:51 am
It's not better. 43 2 means hold 43, second highest on the route (Top 1. means top and therefore necessary highest on the route). If Pilz is ranked higher than Gangbret it's because she did better on the 2nd qualifying route.
Title: Re: IFSC Euro Champs (Lead & Speed) streaming
Post by: GraemeA on July 01, 2017, 08:49:38 am
It's not better. 43 2 means hold 43, second highest on the route (Top 1. means top and therefore necessary highest on the route). If Pilz is ranked higher than Gangbret it's because she did better on the 2nd qualifying route.

2nd highest meaning ranked 2nd highest out of the whole field rather than meaning the penultimate hold, although of course occasionally they might coincide.

The overall 'score' is calculated by multiplying the ranking from the 2 routes (and then taking the square root to keep the numbers smaller and more manageable on screens etc). There is the added factor of the athlete gets the average score if there are ties on that place, so if 3 people are tied on 2nd place on 1 route their average rank for the route is (2+3+4)/3 = 3. After the calc is done you are then ranked on this raw score. Simples.
Title: Re: IFSC Euro Champs (Lead & Speed) streaming
Post by: Muenchener on July 01, 2017, 09:11:27 am
Thanks both.

So not wildly dissimilar to the US Nationals bouldering system then? Except that approximate square roots as a mental arithmetic exercise are a bit easier than approximate fourth or fifth roots.
Title: Re: IFSC Euro Champs (Lead & Speed) streaming
Post by: GraemeA on July 01, 2017, 10:41:13 am
Which version of the US system are you talking about? This year, last year, the year before.

Lead scoring has been the same for over 25 years!
Title: Re: IFSC Euro Champs (Lead & Speed) streaming
Post by: finbarrr on July 01, 2017, 12:29:30 pm
1- awesome to see Laura Rogora match almost every hold, and just keep going and going.

2 was Adam Ondra's knee pad the first in (international) climbing comps? I've never seen one. Any rules to consider? Could climbers (boulderers) make themselves sticky rubber shorts and tops?
Title: Re: IFSC Euro Champs (Lead & Speed) streaming
Post by: User deactivated on July 01, 2017, 12:40:31 pm
Bit rubbish it didn't show Molly climbing at all, just lowering off.

As for the knee pad i thought they were not allowed but it looks like they are. Can't find anything in the handbook about them.
Title: Re: IFSC Euro Champs (Lead & Speed) streaming
Post by: Clart on July 01, 2017, 12:53:32 pm
Does anyone know if these will be available not live, couldn't find any links on youtube for them?
Title: Re: IFSC Euro Champs (Lead & Speed) streaming
Post by: GraemeA on July 01, 2017, 04:33:06 pm
Does anyone know if these will be available not live, couldn't find any links on youtube for them?

I will ask. Might be tomorrow before I respond though.
Title: Re: IFSC Euro Champs (Lead & Speed) streaming
Post by: GraemeA on July 01, 2017, 04:34:41 pm
Bit rubbish it didn't show Molly climbing at all, just lowering off.

As for the knee pad i thought they were not allowed but it looks like they are. Can't find anything in the handbook about them.

Is you sort of infer, they are not dis--allowed therefore they are allowed.

(Adam did check with us first before he started)
Title: Re: IFSC Euro Champs (Lead & Speed) streaming
Post by: Fiend on July 05, 2017, 11:03:45 am
No replays?
Title: Re: IFSC Euro Champs (Lead & Speed) streaming
Post by: BID on July 05, 2017, 05:15:58 pm
No replays?

+1
Title: Re: IFSC Euro Champs (Lead & Speed) streaming
Post by: jwi on July 05, 2017, 05:46:00 pm
Replay with Italian commentators: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NaiTOm8GOc

(some short announcements in English)
Title: Re: IFSC Euro Champs (Lead & Speed) streaming
Post by: jwi on July 05, 2017, 05:47:41 pm
Climbing starts at 34:20
Title: Re: IFSC Euro Champs (Lead & Speed) streaming
Post by: Fiend on July 08, 2017, 09:19:41 am
Cheers man.
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