Good name tho, not that it warrants one.
Perhaps I'm just dull, but it's a pet hate of mine when people do sit starts and don't call it "<climb name> sit start".
Thanks all (?). It's a good bit of fun. Feind I'll post on NNFN now.
Perhaps I'm just dull, but it's a pet hate of mine when people do sit starts and don't call it "<climb name> sit start".
I often see this a a bit of a lost opportunity for some word association/play, provided the sitter adds a distinct crux. One example being Danny V's immaculate Main Vein Sit. I was pretty sad he didn't name it Vena Cava or similar because the line is so good it seems a shame just to append "sit" to the name.
Managed to scrape my way up the sitter to egg arete today. Not heard of anyone doing this before(?), and enjoyed it enough to put 5 sessions in. Start sitting on the right side of the arete. Getting "the" hold is really knacky but not that hard.
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Good name tho, not that it warrants one.
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Perhaps I'm just dull, but it's a pet hate of mine when people do sit starts and don't call it "<climb name> sit start".
Looks like a worthwhile addition though :)
Related though; it bothers me more when boulders get written up as a sit start only (I.e. given a name which doesn't include "sit" or "sit start"), when the stand would make a perfectly legitimate and excellent problem in it's own right.
Related though; it bothers me more when boulders get written up as a sit start only (I.e. given a name which doesn't include "sit" or "sit start"), when the stand would make a perfectly legitimate and excellent problem in it's own right.
Bothers me more when they are written up as an eliminate, when there is a perfectly good non-eliminate version that should be the main prob, then the eliminate written up as such with the harder grade.
Bothers me more when they are written up as an eliminate, when there is a perfectly good non-eliminate version that should be the main prob, then the eliminate written up as such with the harder grade.
best problems I've ever done have been stand starts
In the long run I suspect people will just forget this travesty ever happened and assume the knee-level chalk was someone trying to dry the footholds.:smartass:
Controversial opinion on a bouldering forum but all the best problems I've ever done have been stand starts.
Controversial opinion on a bouldering forum but all the best problems I've ever done have been stand starts.
This is because you are a route climber, and have no appreciation of the finer side of bouldering, and are essentially just looking for small trad routes :lol:
I have to say I think a sit is obvious on RT and adds a little difficulty, plus it's lime.
I wonder if I am in the minority but I have grown quite tired of punny problem names (especially long ones).
This is because you are a route climber, and have no appreciation of the finer side of bouldering, and are essentially just looking for small trad routes :lol:
I wonder if I am in the minority but I have grown quite tired of punny problem names (especially long ones).
Careful now, you might get puntered for being boring :P
Whilst on this boulder Ned did a sitter to the right arete, looks like it uses some lovely slopers. Not sure of the name? Any ideas Jon? But think he said it clocks in around 7C.
I wonder if I am in the minority but I have grown quite tired of punny problem names
(especially long ones).
I don't even mind wordplay e.g. Careless Torque is great name for a problem especially a techy arete. But there is just something about tortured pun names that doesn't do it for me. Bouldering equivalent of dad jokes.
To people against independant names for sit starts I put this question. Would Burbage really be a better place if Submergence and Blind Drunk were instead called Arete Problem Sit Start and Remergence Sit Start?
Yes. But anyway, those problems are not shit, right? What about something like Fuji Heavy Industries which looks complete dung and gets the more flamboyant name?
Does anybody have a view on how misspelled words should be treated when putting new problems into guides?Good question, I mentioned a few misspelled song titles in proofs during the 90s Dorset boom. They went in the Rockfax like that but there could be a sound reason of course.
YesTo people against independant names for sit starts I put this question. Would Burbage really be a better place if Submergence and Blind Drunk were instead called Arete Problem Sit Start and Remergence Sit Start?
So is Blind Drunk the sit to Remergence, and Submergence the sit to Arete Problem?? Is that the right way round?
Bonjoy, this is interesting. I'm all for naming sit-starts something different but preferably related to the original. Since as you suggest it makes a venue and the problem itself somehow more legit and inspiring. I think that is why I'm not a fan of over the top pun names, it actually takes away from the problem and I feel less inspired.I tend to agree up to a point. But it depends, puns blend into general wordplay, sometimes this sort of name sounds tortured and awful, sometimes it sounds nice as a name. Sometimes the pun is just too good to waste! Good puns tend to make good names bad puns don't.
Bonjoy, this is interesting. I'm all for naming sit-starts something different but preferably related to the original. Since as you suggest it makes a venue and the problem itself somehow more legit and inspiring. I think that is why I'm not a fan of over the top pun names, it actually takes away from the problem and I feel less inspired.I tend to agree up to a point. But it depends, puns blend into general wordplay, sometimes this sort of name sounds tortured and awful, sometimes it sounds nice as a name. Sometimes the pun is just too good to waste! Good puns tend to make good names bad puns don't.
Chicken N Mushroom Scoop - A problem involving a chicken wing move up a scoop on 'the Mushroom boulder'. A pun that is too good not to use IMO.
I Got the Boysen and the adjacent problem I Got the Remedy - These are aretes either side of an old problem called Fissure Boysen. They're quite crap problems and the perfect place to use out and out puns.
Number 84 Bus - A climb sit starting on some edges and climbing up to a highball green topout, So I named it after a Sheffeild bus route that goes from Low Edges to High Green. A fairly tortured pun, but far too clever to waste!
To people against independant names for sit starts I put this question. Would Burbage really be a better place if Submergence and Blind Drunk were instead called Arete Problem Sit Start and Remergence Sit Start?
:lol: Either is good with me.
I called my right finish to birdsong birdsong RH because I didn't think I'd done enough original climbing, even though I think it is good, to warrant a new name and out of respect for the original line and first ascensionist. Now I'm worried the greater infringement was not coming up with a good pun!
Again, I think it’s six and two threes. On the one hand you can have a load of link-ups with no new climbing all with their own names, which seems a bit lavish. Or on the other hand you can have a load of dreary link names, Brown Kecks into Horsefly Lefthand Extension via Yo Momma – the name ends up being virtually a description it’s so longwinded. The latter is hardly conducive to free flowing post crag discussion. Neither is great. Like you say hybrid names are probably the least worst option, but the same thing can be achieved with a bit more 'flavour' if the hybrid is a wordplay rather than a straight cut-n-shut job of bits.
Likewise with link-ups. When climbing problem A into problem B, if it's worth an entry in its own right as opposed to a note in the text, I normally go with some amalgamation of the two names. Coming up with a completely new name means that things get unwieldy pretty quickly.
I think there is a case to be made for coming up with different names but only when the sit creates a climb that is really distinct in character (and probably difficulty) from the stand.
Looks good. Weird how no one seems to bother with Eggs is Eggs just left.
Tried this - Eggs Checker - today. Mint connies for it. Think I got the right beta for a problem like this but couldn't quite "seal the deal"
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