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Title: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on June 03, 2022, 02:19:24 pm
To complement the significant repeats thread, where the new route / problem isn't significant enough to deserve its own thread.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on June 03, 2022, 02:25:26 pm
Has Caff done anything recently??
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on June 16, 2022, 10:59:44 pm
New one from Solly Kembal Dory called Megalodon (at Heartland quay?) He's suggested 8B+.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ce3qT9Nj0fc/
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on June 17, 2022, 08:25:27 am
Feel like this should go in here. Sounds like DG had a monster season in Switzerland and capped off nicely.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cey5A2EDtid/
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: BrutusTheBear on June 17, 2022, 08:32:55 am
New one from Solly Kembal Dory called Megalodon (at Heartland quay?) He's suggested 8B+.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ce3qT9Nj0fc/
  It’s in the roof right next to the sadly no longer existing Ache Ball.  Hartland Quay.  A venue with a whole lot of quality 8+ boulders.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Duma on June 17, 2022, 08:36:20 am
Is this the thing Squire has been trying?
What happened to Ache Ball Grant?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on June 17, 2022, 08:49:18 am
Is this the thing Squire has been trying?
What happened to Ache Ball Grant?

I think Squire's thing is more in the roof proper (kinda to the left of kraken if you're looking in to the cave). I've not been though and this is all just based on IG pics so take it with a pinch of salt.

Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: BrutusTheBear on June 17, 2022, 08:58:30 am
Is this the thing Squire has been trying?
What happened to Ache Ball Grant?
Ache Ball died :wavecry: quite a long time ago, still gets logged on UKC every now and then though.  It should start on a double undercutty ish feature low on the arete making a hard move right hand into the crimp on the overhanging face.  This start has simply fallen off and therefore impossible.  It has also developed a big hold near the arete that makes it much easier to move to the 'jug' on the overhanging face.  People are starting right hand in the crimp and using the new extra hold (why wouldn't you), around 6b this way..the original 8a/7c+ problem is simply not possible anymore.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: BrutusTheBear on June 17, 2022, 09:14:05 am
The ever fluctuating beach levels can confuse things also.

JAWS Starts to the right of Acheball and goes out to the lip through the steep twin crackish feature above it, here's Solly on it, you can see his feet on the Acheball 'jug'.  https://www.instagram.com/reel/CewH4q0jh6r/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

I think Megalodon shares the finish of Jaws but starts from a designated hold deeper in the cave.  I was there when Solly was trying it but wasn't really paying much attention to what he was doing, a ladder was required to access the moves that day...apparently at the moment you can reach everything off the ground (that could change overnight).
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: andy moles on June 17, 2022, 10:17:04 am
Be cool if this thread was used not just for hard ascents but also new things of significant quality.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on June 17, 2022, 10:46:15 am
Be cool if this thread was used not just for hard ascents but also new things of significant quality.

I'd be well psyched on that. I really like significant repeats as a place to hear about ascents that are interesting but a bit more niche so carrying that vibe over to hear would be mint.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on June 17, 2022, 12:05:26 pm
Be cool if this thread was used not just for hard ascents but also new things of significant quality.

Yep, use it for whatever you deem worthy; it's called significant first ascents not "hard first ascents"  ;)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: CapitalistPunter on June 17, 2022, 07:45:13 pm
Is this the thing Squire has been trying?
What happened to Ache Ball Grant?
Ache Ball died :wavecry: quite a long time ago, still gets logged on UKC every now and then though.  It should start on a double undercutty ish feature low on the arete making a hard move right hand into the crimp on the overhanging face.  This start has simply fallen off and therefore impossible.  It has also developed a big hold near the arete that makes it much easier to move to the 'jug' on the overhanging face.  People are starting right hand in the crimp and using the new extra hold (why wouldn't you), around 6b this way..the original 8a/7c+ problem is simply not possible anymore.

I climbed the low start of this back when I was just getting solid around the 7B mark. Not sure if it has deteriated even more since then, but its likely 7A+ 7B from where I started in this vid.

Its a big shame! The original movement looked brilliant

https://www.instagram.com/p/CEttXrYjbQa/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Duma on June 27, 2022, 05:07:45 pm
Squire has done his Hartland project at 8C, Paradise Found
https://www.instagram.com/p/CfUIeQUjC5q/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
He sounds pretty chuffed!

Maybe should get its own thread but had already been mentioned here.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: edshakey on June 27, 2022, 10:55:46 pm
Not all significant FAs have to be hard, but hard ones are usually significant for at least that reason.

Nomura Shinichiro, Gakido, 8C+. Nice riverside setting too, looks beautiful. Never heard of the guy, one of many Japanese crushers.

https://youtu.be/rN5Z3V4QYtA

Only 3 sessions too! Crazy quick to establish a boulder of that difficulty. I wonder how fast he's managed other things, must be tearing it up in Japan.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on June 28, 2022, 07:45:25 am
Whilst we're on very hard new things, Matt Fultz has put up a new 8C+, which to me just looks to be a "big grades for bad beta" version of Jade. Significant though since those are some very small grips for a big chap.

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CfUxqupPIH9/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Note: watching with the sound on could easily be misconstrued as a bit NSFW...
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: JamieG on June 28, 2022, 08:15:47 am
Whilst we're on very hard new things, Matt Fultz has put up a new 8C+, which to me just looks to be a "big grades for bad beta" version of Jade. Significant though since those are some very small grips for a big chap.

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CfUxqupPIH9/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Note: watching with the sound on could easily be misconstrued as a bit NSFW...

Haha, "smooth and strong, baby!" I think I need a cold shower!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on June 28, 2022, 11:14:21 am
Whilst we're on very hard new things, Matt Fultz has put up a new 8C+, which to me just looks to be a "big grades for bad beta" version of Jade. Significant though since those are some very small grips for a big chap.

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CfUxqupPIH9/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Note: watching with the sound on could easily be misconstrued as a bit NSFW...

That'd be right at home at the tor.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: abarro81 on June 28, 2022, 02:23:38 pm

That'd be right at home at the tor.

Powerband into Generation Game but for the V16 climber... Or a mirror image of James' King of Griff's link
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: User deactivated. on June 28, 2022, 10:25:33 pm
Not all significant FAs have to be hard, but hard ones are usually significant for at least that reason.

Nomura Shinichiro, Gakido, 8C+. Nice riverside setting too, looks beautiful. Never heard of the guy, one of many Japanese crushers.

https://youtu.be/rN5Z3V4QYtA

Only 3 sessions too! Crazy quick to establish a boulder of that difficulty. I wonder how fast he's managed other things, must be tearing it up in Japan.

I love the purity of this one, it reminds me of Burden of dreams! I wonder if there's a possible sit / lower start.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: abarro81 on July 10, 2022, 04:58:11 am
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Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Ross Barker on July 12, 2022, 04:18:27 pm
New E9 up in Scotland from Mat Wright, looks pretty tasty!

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cf6pSNIDtxf/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: CapitalistPunter on July 12, 2022, 04:48:39 pm
New E9 up in Scotland from Mat Wright, looks pretty tasty!

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cf6pSNIDtxf/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Good stuff! Hopefully its not already in a guide
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fultonius on July 12, 2022, 04:52:25 pm
I wonder where it is in relation to Iain's route?

https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/reiff_in_the_woods-3969/find_meat_on_bones-551293

Hard to find info for a lot of stuff up in the NW!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: andy moles on July 12, 2022, 06:29:15 pm
He did a new E7/8 at Reiff recently as well.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: sherlock on July 13, 2022, 09:25:02 am
I wonder where it is in relation to Iain's route?

https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/reiff_in_the_woods-3969/find_meat_on_bones-551293

Hard to find info for a lot of stuff up in the NW!
Different crag. Ossuary Block is on Reiff in the Woods side of the glen and Wicket Gate is over the road on the Stac Pollaidh side.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: shark on July 14, 2022, 11:45:48 am
I wonder where it is in relation to Iain's route?

https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/reiff_in_the_woods-3969/find_meat_on_bones-551293

Hard to find info for a lot of stuff up in the NW!
Different crag. Ossuary Block is on Reiff in the Woods side of the glen and Wicket Gate is over the road on the Stac Pollaidh side.

Any take on how good/hard/significant this is?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: shark on July 14, 2022, 12:54:13 pm
Got a message from Mat Wright. He says Robbie Phillips has been working this so he will no doubt comment on it in due course.
Mat says Robbie has found some placements that he’d written off as too poor to bother with.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: sherlock on July 14, 2022, 02:07:29 pm
I wonder where it is in relation to Iain's route?

https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/reiff_in_the_woods-3969/find_meat_on_bones-551293

Hard to find info for a lot of stuff up in the NW!
Different crag. Ossuary Block is on Reiff in the Woods side of the glen and Wicket Gate is over the road on the Stac Pollaidh side.

Any take on how good/hard/significant this is?
Sorry Shark, no idea but doubt Smally does soft touches!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: andy moles on July 14, 2022, 03:10:43 pm
If you mean the new route, it's on the same wall as an E6 from 2015 called Pine Martens with Guns, given two stars by Ian Taylor, who's probably better placed than most to judge relative quality in the northwest. So it must be a pretty good wall.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fultonius on July 14, 2022, 03:16:16 pm
The rock up there is amazing. Don't get there nearly often enough...
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: sherlock on July 14, 2022, 03:22:11 pm
If you mean the new route, it's on the same wall as an E6 from 2015 called Pine Martens with Guns, given two stars by Ian Taylor, who's probably better placed than most to judge relative quality in the northwest. So it must be a pretty good wall.
Ah, sorry,I thought he meant Iain Small's route on the Ossuary Block.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Ian T on July 14, 2022, 04:39:58 pm
I watched Robbie do it today. Not E9.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Will Hunt on July 14, 2022, 05:17:54 pm
Is this Jeopardy or Live Fast that we're talking about?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: GazM on July 14, 2022, 05:25:34 pm
Live Fast. Ian was sending out live updates from the crag today. The Highlands scene has never known such excitement.

Although Robbie and Alex Moore repeated Jeopardy yesterday and thought more like E7 (according to his insta).
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: andy_e on July 14, 2022, 06:40:07 pm
Robbie and Alex both found Jeopardy raiser and safer than Mat suggested, so it's no surprise that Robbie did Live Fast quickly. Did Alex do it too?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Cornish on July 14, 2022, 07:19:31 pm
Flashed it. Apparently Matt doesn’t own RPs, just imagine.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: andy moles on July 15, 2022, 10:01:26 am
Route to be renamed Place RPs, Live Longer
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: shark on July 15, 2022, 12:14:39 pm
Write up from Robbie.

E7 with additional gear, probably E9 the way Mat did it

https://www.instagram.com/p/CgB87Ids5jH/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Robbie says there’ll be a video on Alex’s insta of his flash
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on July 15, 2022, 12:27:17 pm
How the fuck to people get to climbing E2 without RPs, let alone E7/9 or E11??  :blink:
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: shark on July 15, 2022, 12:47:50 pm
Write up from Robbie.

E7 with additional gear, probably E9 the way Mat did it

https://www.instagram.com/p/CgB87Ids5jH/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Robbie says there’ll be a video on Alex’s insta of his flash

Mat has also posted. Implies that the additional cams Robbie placed are in an adjacent route and in his opinion off line.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CgB8o2Qjd1E/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Carliios on July 15, 2022, 01:07:20 pm
The world of first ascents is so interesting and there’s so many variables that when you’re putting up a line it’s so easy to have your blinkers on and not spot a sequence or gear placement that then gets the line downgraded, as long as you’re honest about it and adjust it that’s all gravy. All part of the learning experience. I don’t think there’s anyone here who’s put up an FA and not had someone downgrade it.

Good to see Mat speak openly about his thoughts too, could have just wiped the post but he stuck with it.

The route also looks great regardless of grade, a nice addition to the crag and the grade will settle (as it always does) with more ascents.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on July 15, 2022, 01:12:43 pm
The world of first ascents is so interesting and there’s so many variables that when you’re putting up a line it’s so easy to have your blinkers on and not spot a sequence or gear placement that then gets the line downgraded, as long as you’re honest about it and adjust it that’s all gravy. All part of the learning experience.
It definitely is a prominent aspect of it. Whenever I've unearthed new stuff I've been very attentive to working out what is logical and what would make most sense to future ascentionists, what is the best way to describe a route, if there are any "rules" or options how valuable do they make it etc etc. Quite important when you're setting a path for others to follow, and not always easy to get the balance right.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Carliios on July 15, 2022, 01:25:10 pm
The world of first ascents is so interesting and there’s so many variables that when you’re putting up a line it’s so easy to have your blinkers on and not spot a sequence or gear placement that then gets the line downgraded, as long as you’re honest about it and adjust it that’s all gravy. All part of the learning experience.
It definitely is a prominent aspect of it. Whenever I've unearthed new stuff I've been very attentive to working out what is logical and what would make most sense to future ascentionists, what is the best way to describe a route, if there are any "rules" or options how valuable do they make it etc etc. Quite important when you're setting a path for others to follow, and not always easy to get the balance right.

Yep, all very true. Despite spending time to work out best sequence I’ve had people who are a bit taller roll by and break my beta where I was unable too. These things happen. Good on Mat for speaking openly about it though and sharing his thoughts. Like I’ve said to him it’s all part and parcel of first ascents
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on July 15, 2022, 01:49:09 pm
There's a great story from one of the bleausards (Jacky Godoffe?): he spent a couple of days working on a techy new ~7C and was very proud to tell his mates about his new discovery, so they could go and try it out for themselves. Of course the second ascensionist then did a 6C dyno past all the hard climbing!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bonjoy on July 15, 2022, 04:32:10 pm
I usually make the point in regards to boulder problems, but it seems applicable here too. It's makes sense to state what parameters a grade  is based on, even if you personally think it's obvious/self-evident, and even if it makes the climb look/sound like an eliminate. Revealing unspoken/unwritten rules after they're broken is suboptimal. I've been caught out by this a few times.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: scragrock on July 16, 2022, 09:32:20 am
Coming soon :2thumbsup:

Lots of F.A nonsense on the horizon from an up and coming edition of the Gneiss Times re Robbie Phillips{Captain America} and his Avengers End Game crew that recently hit the Highlands with predictable results despite the summer heat.

Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on July 18, 2022, 02:27:16 pm
even if you personally think it's obvious/self-evident, and even if it makes the climb look/sound like an eliminate. Revealing unspoken/unwritten rules after they're broken is suboptimal. I've been caught out by this a few times.

This is so true. assume LCD and work backwards. "you sure you aren't supposed to reach across and use that? It's going to be a hard move if you don't " Duh.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: yetix on July 20, 2022, 10:26:46 pm
Shawn R has done the story of 3 worlds 8c+,assuming a low start to 2 worlds?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: edshakey on July 20, 2022, 10:42:59 pm
Looks to be that, definitely finishes up SOTW. This seems to be one of the 'secret' ascents, hopefully more footage will be coming out soon.

Video description says he did it twice cos he dabbed the tree - interesting that picking up a chalk bag from the floor is fair game  ;)

Vid link https://youtu.be/oa0bXWl2RBs
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Wellsy on July 20, 2022, 10:48:09 pm
That dyno to the undercling is pretty fucking incredible
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Duncan campbell on July 21, 2022, 08:30:15 am
Is he wearing a ring on his right index finger?? Or is it tape??
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Mike Highbury on July 21, 2022, 08:58:29 am
Is he wearing a ring on his right index finger?? Or is it tape??

A tattoo?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: User deactivated. on July 21, 2022, 09:59:52 am
That thing looks absurdly hard! Even the kneebar looks nails due to the size of the foothold.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Duncan campbell on July 21, 2022, 10:49:58 am
Is he wearing a ring on his right index finger?? Or is it tape??

A tattoo?

I thought that but at the end it looks like his skin is bulging around the edge? Surely can’t be a ring but just seems like a very skinny bit of tape
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: yetix on July 25, 2022, 05:40:46 pm
Seb Bouin has done the FA of Nordic Marathon an 130m 9b/+ route.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CgcR2Z4DhN3/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Duncan campbell on July 25, 2022, 05:49:13 pm
Fuck me Bouin must have a leathery ass!!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on July 25, 2022, 06:08:40 pm
That's pretty girthy  :yes:

(The route, not Seb's leathery arse).
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Duma on July 25, 2022, 06:09:10 pm
Mental.
130m 9b/+
8c into 9a+
one go every two days
switch rope half way
untie and solo the last 5-10 meters
Mental.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: submaximal gains on July 25, 2022, 08:31:55 pm
I've just copied the text from Seb's two instagram posts, the first discussing Thor's hammer pitch 2 and the second discussing Nordic Plummer.

Post 1:
Second pitch of Thor's Hammer 9a+ ✔️
First repetition after Adam Ondra's FA (2017)

This route is the last part of the original multipitch crossing the Flatanger cave,  bolted by @magmidt .
It's going from the anchor of Nordic Plumber / Thor's Hammer (it's the same) to the lip of the roof.
It's around 25 meters, with a 9a+ grade.
There are three separate cruxes in this last picth. The hardest one comes on the very last meters of the roof.

Back in 2012 @adam.ondra made the first ascent of Thor's Hammer (9a) which is the first 2 pitches of this multipitch from Magnus.
I already did this route, back in 2015.

This last pitch was still a project at the time and Adam went on to get its FA in 2017.
I’m psyched to have made the first repetition on Monday. It took me 9 goes.
Now, onto something even bigger…

The idea of Adam Ondra is to cross the cave from the bottom to the top on the most overhanging part (it's basically a roof), and finishing via this pitch.
This is truly something which excites me!

This mega route has the possibility of 3 different starts – I wonder which one will go!

From the original route Thor's Hammer : this could be 9a followed by this cruxy 9a+

From Move : 9b/+ followed by the cruxy 9a+

From the 8c Nordic Plumber : 8c followed by 9a+

The hard part of this project (whatever is the starting route), is the endurance necessary, and how to keep enough power in reserve for the final pitch. We will have to climb around 50 meters, just to get on to the last pitch.
It's hard to imagine what the overall grade that this project might be, but one thing is sure, this last pitch makes it really hard due to the style and the combination of the cruxes.
This route will be around 80m of hard climbing with the redpoint crux on the last meters. Above the lip of the cave, there are still 50 meters of vertical wall to be bolted to top out on the very summit. The total line could be around 130m to be climbed in one pitc, switching ropes as we climb.
We still have to bolt the last "easy" part to get onto the summit of the cave.

My dream project would be to do it from Move. Adam and I think this route could be 9c.

I will surely try it first vis Nordic Plumber or Thor's Hammer to train during this trip (possibly 9b+)
My goal would be to try this "Move integral" (potential 9c) during my next trip / next season.
Thanks again for the great pic @climbimarco during the Dyno, Crux 1 of this pitch

Post 2
Nordic Marathon , 130m ✔️
9b/+ First ascent

When Adam told me about his project to cross over the cave, and go from the ground to the summit, I was immediately amazed by this idea.
The main goal of my trip was to check out this monster.
The idea was big, really big. But it's definitely the kind of challenge which attracts me.

As I explained in my previous post, there are three possible starting routes, each offering a different grade. Starting with:
Nordic Plumber 8c
Thor's Hammer 9a
Move 9b/+

Whatever the start, it is then followed by a cruxy 9a+ (Pitch 2 of Thor’s Hammer), with a repoint crux at the end (at 80m).
My ultimate goal would be to do it by the hardest possible combination: Move.
In the previous years, I already spent four travels to do Move (9b/+). Imagine starting from this one and finishing by a cruxy 9a+...

However, I knew this would be too hard for a single trip. So first I decided to start from the easiest line (Nordic Plumber 8c) in order to get an idea of the challenge, and to be psychologically ready for the end when I start trying the harder version.

After first working and sending the second (9a+) section by jumarring into it, I then started trying from the ground, trying to link into it from Nordic Plumber.
It changed so much the end. Coming into the 9a+, with my arms already so pumped in the last crimpy crux after 80m of climbing was insane.

I was falling there a few times. And then falling on the previous cruxes as well.

The sheer size of the route makes it hard mentally. You can have one go every two days. It's so much climbing, in one intense burst that you simply can't give two goes in a day. Then if you want to be as fresh as possible, you need a rest day in between.

So it was quite hard psychologically to only give it one burn every two days.
The pressure felt so high in this last crux.

The rope drag was also insane. Even if I had already switched ropes once during the route - I had to untie my knot and free-solo the last 5/10 meters (really easy climbing)

Nordic Marathon is my pure climbing style. Endurance, big moves,...
The line attracted me by its size.

Thanks @adam.ondra for sharing this idea
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: User deactivated. on July 25, 2022, 09:09:20 pm
I can hear the sound of JWI furiously crunching numbers in the grade calculator...

Futuristic route.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: gme on July 25, 2022, 09:57:12 pm
This is insane. If you have ever stood in this cave it’s hard to comprehend.

Twice the height of Malham 3/4 of which is a roof.

Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: CapitalistPunter on July 27, 2022, 08:13:34 pm
New 9a route/boulder from Solly called "Bikini Bittom" in the cave at Hartland Quay.

"The full line from the back of the cave into Megaladon->Jaws."
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on July 27, 2022, 08:53:08 pm
New 9a route/boulder from Solly called "Bikini Bittom" in the cave at Hartland Quay.

"The full line from the back of the cave into Megaladon->Jaws."

https://youtu.be/Amq6bshAZKw

This has got Barrows' name all over it.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: petejh on July 27, 2022, 09:11:13 pm
This has got Barrows' name knee all over it.

God that looks soooo boring. Fair play.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Carliios on July 28, 2022, 09:50:21 am
New 9a route/boulder from Solly called "Bikini Bittom" in the cave at Hartland Quay.

"The full line from the back of the cave into Megaladon->Jaws."

https://youtu.be/Amq6bshAZKw

This has got Barrows' name all over it.

I’m confused, why have a chalk bag and then used a chalkbucket half way?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: abarro81 on July 28, 2022, 10:21:16 am
I imagine it might be easier to chalk and chill at the same time rather than using the one clipped to him (chalking upside down can sometimes be a bit awkward)

Looks great, wish it were a bit closer to Sheffield!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on July 28, 2022, 10:36:15 am
For a cave by the sea it seems to get remarkably good conditions?

Looks like a cool bit of climbing.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: BrutusTheBear on July 28, 2022, 10:52:28 am
It can be super gopping in there Chris.  Seepage from above if it has rained, big tides and big swell will soak it too. The long dry spell we've had down here definitely helps and looks like Solly got this done during a small tide/small swell window.  Don't turn up here expecting your project to be mint everytime!

7b into 8a+ into 8a+ is the breakdown. 



Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on July 28, 2022, 12:00:02 pm
OK, still seems more reliable than many east coast spots, unless you get up early morning sun, which kind of limits you to weekends.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fultonius on July 28, 2022, 12:38:32 pm
It can be super gopping in there Chris.  Seepage from above if it has rained, big tides and big swell will soak it too. The long dry spell we've had down here definitely helps and looks like Solly got this done during a small tide/small swell window.  Don't turn up here expecting your project to be mint everytime!

7b into 8a+ into 8a+ is the breakdown.

You talkin' boulder or route grades?

If we're generous and call them "medium" rests, the good ol' Darth Grader gives:

Route grades (7b M 8a+ M 8a+):  8b+

Boulder Grades (7B M 8A+ M 8A+): 9b

So it's either quite under- or quite over-graded.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on July 28, 2022, 12:54:28 pm
It can be super gopping in there Chris.  Seepage from above if it has rained, big tides and big swell will soak it too. The long dry spell we've had down here definitely helps and looks like Solly got this done during a small tide/small swell window.  Don't turn up here expecting your project to be mint everytime!

7b into 8a+ into 8a+ is the breakdown.

You talkin' boulder or route grades?

If we're generous and call them "medium" rests, the good ol' Darth Grader gives:

Route grades (7b M 8a+ M 8a+):  8b+

Boulder Grades (7B M 8A+ M 8A+): 9b

So it's either quite under- or quite over-graded.

As much as I love some grade maths, there's also option 3 that the calculator doesn't work so well for this route/problem. Wouldn't be super surprising as it's calibrated on long routes rather than extended boulder problems.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: abarro81 on July 28, 2022, 12:58:23 pm
I just played with it using The Wheel and Pilgrimage. It came out about 1.5 grades too high on both - I think that must be roughly the 'challenge' adjustment for being off a rope, which roughly makes sense to me
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: BrutusTheBear on July 28, 2022, 01:06:54 pm
It can be super gopping in there Chris.  Seepage from above if it has rained, big tides and big swell will soak it too. The long dry spell we've had down here definitely helps and looks like Solly got this done during a small tide/small swell window.  Don't turn up here expecting your project to be mint everytime!

7b into 8a+ into 8a+ is the breakdown.

You talkin' boulder or route grades?

If we're generous and call them "medium" rests, the good ol' Darth Grader gives:

Route grades (7b M 8a+ M 8a+):  8b+

Boulder Grades (7B M 8A+ M 8A+): 9b

So it's either quite under- or quite over-graded.
Them's the boulder grades, Solly's hardest route to date is 8a though!  (Sure he is capable of way more but focused on bouldering).  So maybe his grade calibration is not quite there yet...  A repeat or two is needed, get to it beis.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: jwi on July 28, 2022, 01:14:05 pm
I just played with it using The Wheel and Pilgrimage. It came out about 1.5 grades too high on both - I think that must be roughly the 'challenge' adjustment for being off a rope, which roughly makes sense to me

This. Many really underestimate how hard it is to clip draws, especially clips that you simply cannot blow without risking injury. And also just generally fiddle around with ropes.

Luckily this was solved like forty years ago with the introduction of the traverse bouldering grade.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: BrutusTheBear on July 28, 2022, 03:15:10 pm
What would this be in traverse boulder grading then?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: jwi on July 28, 2022, 06:33:30 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlaYx4FpIx8
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on July 29, 2022, 12:55:51 pm
Ben Bransby has added a new 8B on the North Wales coastal lime that he's called Gwyllgi.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cgl6owWD1F_/
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Duma on July 29, 2022, 01:01:27 pm
http://www.northwalesbouldering.com/newsitem.asp?nsid=1019

Few more details here
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Duma on July 29, 2022, 01:04:27 pm
Oh, and Ynys Môn is Anglesey to the rest of us.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Carliios on July 30, 2022, 11:42:09 am
Ben Bransby has added a new 8B on the North Wales coastal lime that he's called Gwyllgi.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cgl6owWD1F_/

Still blows me away how under the radar Ben is considering the amount of hard stuff he's done. What a legend, he popped over to windy the other day and flashed all of mine and Bonjoy's lines there as you do  ;D
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: andy moles on July 30, 2022, 12:49:53 pm
Is he under the radar? I'd regard BB as one of the longstanding big cheeses of all-round hard climbing in the UK.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on July 30, 2022, 01:31:25 pm
Is he under the radar? I'd regard BB as one of the longstanding big cheeses of all-round hard climbing in the UK.

I think what Carlos means by "under the radar" is actually just "not on Instagram"...

he popped over to windy the other day and flashed all of mine and Bonjoy's lines there as you do  ;D

Nothing at Windy is ever going to give an 8B climber any trouble! Although on a related note the one time I've met him I enjoyed watching him absolutely piss Tourniquet:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BpUKQhBH_zB/
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: 36chambers on July 30, 2022, 01:52:03 pm
Is he under the radar? I'd regard BB as one of the longstanding big cheeses of all-round hard climbing in the UK.

he's under the radar as much as Dan Varian is a mysterious dark horse and Micky Page is a whisper in the wind that no one has ever seen.

I think what Carlos means by "under the radar" is actually just "not on Instagram"...

https://www.instagram.com/bbsparrowguns/ :)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Carliios on July 30, 2022, 01:58:19 pm
You don’t need to not be on Instagram to be under the radar. I know a lot of climbers who know who Dan Varian is but would have no idea who BB is even though he might one of the best all rounders and obviously an 8B climber would have no issues with a bunch of V7/8s but to turn up and flash every line in one bosh is still pretty awesome - guess I’ve just got my punter blinkers on  :smart:
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: GazM on July 30, 2022, 02:42:24 pm
I suspect one's perspective on this depends on when you got into climbing and where you get/got info from. Back when I got interested Bransby's exploits were getting mentioned in almost every monthly magazine so you knew he was a weapon. Nowadays news tends to come via social media, where the loudest shouters rise to the top. BB isn't much of a shouter.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Carliios on July 30, 2022, 03:07:13 pm
Yeah I’ve only been climbing since Jan 2019 so I I fear I may have missed the boat on his past exploits but I became acutely aware of him as soon as I started getting outside more, was difficult not to see the trail of crushing he left behind, even then for me he’s always remained a bit of an elusive figure which was quite I always found quite cool. I think that’s why I got excited to see he’d climbed some of my lines!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: ferret on July 30, 2022, 04:18:28 pm
https://dmmwales.com/climbers/ben-bransby
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Carliios on July 30, 2022, 04:35:05 pm
https://dmmwales.com/climbers/ben-bransby

That’s quite the tick list not to mention he’s essentially ticked every line at stanage also.

Ha, didn’t realise he lived in Hathersage, surprised I haven’t seen him about.

Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Moo on July 30, 2022, 05:20:13 pm
He’s only little so it’s hard to spot him, especially in long grass.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on July 30, 2022, 05:26:02 pm
I suspect one's perspective on this depends on when you got into climbing and where you get/got info from. Back when I got interested Bransby's exploits were getting mentioned in almost every monthly magazine so you knew he was a weapon. Nowadays news tends to come via social media, where the loudest shouters rise to the top. BB isn't much of a shouter.
He was less known for being an 8B roof boulderer in the past though...

Edit:
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He went on to establish Bon Atrocity, an 8B link in Parisella’s Cave
Hmmm okay I buggered that one up then. Still, things in Parisella's tend to fade into unmemorable anonymity, right?


Edit2:
Although he's best known for his fine selection of video-bombing dogs, surely....

Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on July 30, 2022, 05:55:36 pm
I'd seen it before but I particularly like this little snippet at the end of that DMM write up:

Quote
I had done one 8c a few years before—Make it Funky at Raven Tor. I worked it on my own using a gri gri during May’s nap time - I would get her to sleep in the van at the bottom and then work the route with the baby monitor on my harness so I would know if she woke up. She normally slept for about 1.5 hours and I would be back down before she woke up (normally). I managed to lead the route second go, the first day I actually had someone to belay me!”

Good dadspiration!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: cheque on July 30, 2022, 06:23:00 pm
You don’t need to not be on Instagram to be under the radar. I know a lot of climbers who know who Dan Varian is but would have no idea who BB is

That’s the Flickr effect.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: duncan on July 30, 2022, 11:09:32 pm
He’s quite handy on bigger stuff too: https://factortwo.co.uk/freebird-ben-bransby
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on August 06, 2022, 11:55:14 pm
Barrows has added a new 8c+ to the Chee Dale Cornice which he's called Malcolm in the Middle. It starts up the wall between Monumental Armblaster and Malcolm X before finishing up the latter.

https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/chee_dale_lower-10866/malcolm_in_the_middle-665196
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: lukeyboy on August 07, 2022, 09:25:52 am
 
Barrows has added a new 8c+ to the Chee Dale Cornice which he's called Malcolm in the Middle. It starts up the wall between Monumental Armblaster and Malcolm X before finishing up the latter.

https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/chee_dale_lower-10866/malcolm_in_the_middle-665196

Excellent route name. And well done Barrows!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: abarro81 on August 07, 2022, 10:49:45 am
Thanks! Glad people seem to like the name  :)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Wood FT on August 07, 2022, 01:54:07 pm
Hardest route at the cornice? I would never have thought it would go to 'broken fingers' Barrows
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on August 07, 2022, 02:24:33 pm
How's retirement going Barrows?  ;)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: abarro81 on August 07, 2022, 09:15:00 pm
Hardest route at the cornice?

I've never tried Somehow Super (has anyone other than Ste?) but it definitely felt harder for me than Dreadnaught. Someone said Felix did the proj out of Powerplant the other day too, not sure how hard that is...

How's retirement going Barrows?  ;)
I hear retire and return is very popular nowadays  ;)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Wood FT on August 07, 2022, 09:25:14 pm
Hardest route at the cornice?

I've never tried Somehow Super (has anyone other than Ste?) but it definitely felt harder for me than Dreadnaught. Someone said Felix did the proj out of Powerplant the other day too, not sure how hard that is...

Whoa whoa, hold up, verify this please
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: abarro81 on August 07, 2022, 09:56:24 pm
I have no verification, just what I was told at the crag yesterday...
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Ru on August 07, 2022, 10:04:11 pm
Hardest route at the cornice?

I've never tried Somehow Super (has anyone other than Ste?) but it definitely felt harder for me than Dreadnaught. Someone said Felix did the proj out of Powerplant the other day too, not sure how hard that is...

Whoa whoa, hold up, verify this please

https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/chee_dale_lower-10866/six_dinner_sid-664915 (https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/chee_dale_lower-10866/six_dinner_sid-664915)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Wood FT on August 08, 2022, 08:48:54 am
Hardest route at the cornice?

I've never tried Somehow Super (has anyone other than Ste?) but it definitely felt harder for me than Dreadnaught. Someone said Felix did the proj out of Powerplant the other day too, not sure how hard that is...

Whoa whoa, hold up, verify this please

https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/chee_dale_lower-10866/six_dinner_sid-664915 (https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/chee_dale_lower-10866/six_dinner_sid-664915)

Waddage.

Blimey, that kid is so low-key. Makes everyone else seem like Michael Reardon.

Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: spidermonkey09 on August 08, 2022, 09:31:43 am
Thats great. Been a project for so long, and in such a central bit of the crag.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: abarro81 on August 08, 2022, 11:46:45 am
Good spot Ru. Low-key indeed!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: James Malloch on August 19, 2022, 07:05:20 pm
Shawn Raboutou has proposed a 9A Boulder called Alphane.

Video out on Monday according to his Instagram post: https://www.instagram.com/p/ChczmRCDDdi/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on August 19, 2022, 09:01:42 pm
9A!

9s coming thick and fast  :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on August 20, 2022, 09:19:36 am
Maybe continue the discussion here; https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,31916.msg660598.html#msg660598
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on August 24, 2022, 06:50:40 pm
I think this is quite significant:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Chk6GYzvJmf/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Decent video on YouTube about it too. Sounds like it hasn't ever been done before other than on top rope, which of course means it hadn't really been done at all prior to Anna's ascent. Considering it's slap bang in the middle of Magic Wood that's quite something!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on August 24, 2022, 06:59:24 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38B2K8XKh0U

"DANGEROUS climb on microscopic holds"  :-\

"SO I FELL OFF FROM THE HIGHEST I'D FALL FROM AND I WAS TOTALLY FINE climb on microscopic holds"  :yes:

Thankfully the climbing and ascent looks of a lot better quality than the clickbaitness. Good effort, some proper ratty vert there.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on August 24, 2022, 07:23:07 pm
Haha yes, ignore the clickbait and appreciate the achievement.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Carliios on August 25, 2022, 02:39:00 pm
My favourite bit is where they call it a ground up free solo  :lol:
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on August 25, 2022, 03:43:04 pm
Yeah what the flaming fuckbollox was that all about?? I didn't know "ground up" was so obscure and hard to grasp.

But the climbing was great, the heel thing was funky, as was her epiphany about the finger positions. Significant quality problem for sure.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: andy moles on August 25, 2022, 05:48:30 pm
I just can't swallow this sort of thing without choking on the clickbait.  :sick:
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Wood FT on August 25, 2022, 06:57:41 pm
Not adding another view to that shite.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: JamieG on August 25, 2022, 10:30:04 pm
That’s a shame. It’s very impressive climbing by Anna on a very cool boulder. But the clickbait and even worse cheesy ‘risk’ bar chart cheapen the whole thing. I wish they just stated it as it was: an impressive first ascent of a highball 8A slab/wall. That’s worthy of the plaudits without the bumf surrounding it.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: User deactivated. on August 25, 2022, 11:18:19 pm
Hate to go full UKB, but does anyone know if she's climbed boulders close to this level before? I'd never heard of her but just had a quick flick through Anna's insta/youtube and can't see anything above f7B+. She's a very good climber judging by the hard trad ascents on established routes, so i'm sure she's capable, particularly in this style. Just thought it would be incredibly bold to upgrade something if she hadn't climbed around that level before! No negativity intended, it's a good looking problem and I do love a 2 finger full crimp!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on August 26, 2022, 07:33:48 am
Not sure what she's fine on the boulders but she's sport climbed up to 8b+.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Carliios on August 26, 2022, 07:51:00 am
I’d be interested to see how it compares to Duel in Font. I’d say similar micro crimp tekkers, maybe not as bold but you don’t get hard grades for scary climbs, at least not in the UK right?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on August 26, 2022, 08:04:38 am
you don’t get hard grades for scary climbs, at least not in the UK right?
You do - E grades  :2thumbsup:

Was just wondering if anyone - not one of the grade sceptics for this one tho - would care to speculate on an old skool E grade for an old skool beer towel onsight for this one??
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: User deactivated. on August 26, 2022, 08:23:44 am
Not sure what she's fine on the boulders but she's sport climbed up to 8b+.

Call me a believer then.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on August 26, 2022, 08:31:15 am
Not a trace of doubt in your mind?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on August 26, 2022, 08:32:17 am
Not sure what she's fine on the boulders but she's sport climbed up to 8b+.

And E9. She's no slouch.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: mrjonathanr on August 26, 2022, 08:50:33 am
Not a trace of doubt in your mind?

When she needed sunshine, she got rain.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: rjtrials on August 26, 2022, 10:13:01 am
Not sure what she's fine on the boulders but she's sport climbed up to 8b+.

And E9. She's no slouch.

The 8b+ is often logged as 13c. There is v8ish climbing quite close to the ground, then it eases up.

The E9 is only 13a climbing though, right?

Not saying either ascent is not an amazing personal effort, but  people making a living from videos of repeats that aren't  actually hard often operate at the softest end of the scale possible.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on August 26, 2022, 10:14:13 am
Bumlog graphics aside, it's quite a good vid, just about 10 minutes too long. Wonder what the old bolt is from?

Glad to hear they are setting up a Patreon account though, I will definitely sign up*

* will I fuck
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: andy popp on August 26, 2022, 10:33:31 am
This is getting pretty unseemly.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: User deactivated. on August 26, 2022, 10:36:33 am
people making a living from videos of repeats that aren't  actually hard often operate at the softest end of the scale possible.

'Influencers' have a paying audience (through advertising potential) by way of their relatability, rather than skill. They may well be skilled, but this isn't usually as important.

This isn't exclusively a 21st century phenomenon. In other lifestyle sports like skateboarding, BMX, etc. there have always been highly regarded participants with prestigious sponsorship deals that could never place well in a contest, but are characters with a unique way of expressing themselves.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: User deactivated. on August 26, 2022, 10:42:48 am
Was just wondering if anyone - not one of the grade sceptics for this one tho - would care to speculate on an old skool E grade for an old skool beer towel onsight for this one??

The Prow is 8A and E9?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on August 26, 2022, 10:44:59 am
Not sure what she's fine on the boulders but she's sport climbed up to 8b+.

And E9. She's no slouch.

The 8b+ is often logged as 13c. There is v8ish climbing quite close to the ground, then it eases up.

The E9 is only 13a climbing though, right?

Not saying either ascent is not an amazing personal effort, but  people making a living from videos of repeats that aren't  actually hard often operate at the softest end of the scale possible.

Oh right, yeah, sorry I'd forgotten E9 is easy.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: abarro81 on August 26, 2022, 11:02:22 am
His point is not that E9 is easy, it's that in some circumstances it's physically easy enough so as to not tell you that much about someone's ability to
1. Climb 8A or
2. Tell 8A from 7C
Both of which are true.
[caveat, I have only read the thread, I refuse to watch videos like that unless strictly necessary for giving people shit]
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: abarro81 on August 26, 2022, 11:04:49 am
This is getting pretty unseemly.

I disagree, if you're going to play the game with social media you can't expect people not to share their views.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on August 26, 2022, 11:39:22 am
His point is not that E9 is easy, it's that in some circumstances it's physically easy enough so as to not tell you that much about someone's ability to
1. Climb 8A or
2. Tell 8A from 7C
Both of which are true.
[caveat, I have only read the thread, I refuse to watch videos like that unless strictly necessary for giving people shit]

I know, I'm being facetious because I knew there'd be this kind of reaction to mentioning it here.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: andy popp on August 26, 2022, 12:03:33 pm
This is getting pretty unseemly.

I disagree, if you're going to play the game with social media you can't expect people not to share their views.

Fair enough, of course (that you disagree). I just don't think it's a good look to have so quickly slid from taking the mick out of a pretty terrible video to doubting the climber's ability, on the basis of very little at all from what I can see.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: User deactivated. on August 26, 2022, 12:10:28 pm
No one is saying anything bad about Anna or her climbing ability. If Daniel Woods were to put up a 9c route tomorrow, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt, but I'd have asked the same question - what's he done in this style before? Now I've learnt about Anna's documented hard ascents in other styles, I give her the benefit of the doubt too. E9 and 8b+ seem way harder than f8A to me anyway!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: yetix on August 26, 2022, 12:42:44 pm
On a old YouTube video she says how she did 7c+ in a few goes in Bishop. (I'm not sure which my gf showed it me a long time ago with regards to boulder grades being sexist - but that's a diff topic entirely)

She was also close on rh of darkness I believe recently here in MW, not sure if she did it in the end (completely diff style though).

Also the FA of the slab was done off a rope apparently? But got a boulder grade? There's rumours it was done since above pads, but no confirmation? If that's the case she got the FA? So can propose what she wants? (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong and someone has actually done it above pads first)

There's been a bunch of men trying (off a rope) and failing since she did it and proposing the grade. I've seen 2 people anyhow in a couple of days and hadn't seen anyone else on it in the weeks before.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: lukeyboy on August 26, 2022, 01:18:40 pm
From my armchair, she appears to be a climber that excels at a particular style (necky vert/slab on micro holds) and this fits that perfectly. She also has form of seemingly huge leaps from previous performance (e.g. OUATITSW). Given her sport and trad ascents, this seems credible.

I also think it's completely fair to ask the question, which is all that anyone has done - no one has made any claims about foul play.

I should also add that I refuse to watch that tottering turd of clickbait.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Teaboy on August 26, 2022, 01:41:20 pm
There’a a video of her doing Sway on in a session here:
https://youtu.be/lmvBTlrUwMs
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Andy W on August 26, 2022, 01:57:49 pm
There’a a video of her doing Sway on in a session here:
https://youtu.be/lmvBTlrUwMs

She doesn’t do it though, she misses out the first move which is the hard one.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Teaboy on August 26, 2022, 02:20:10 pm
Ah, right you are. I had a quick scroll through to check it was Sway on she was on but didn’t twig that she didn’t do the start.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: 36chambers on August 26, 2022, 02:25:00 pm
She doesn’t do it though, she misses out the first move which is the hard one.

I actually thought kodus if she did the second move on that, that's still pretty nails. But nope, she skips that one too. So just the end, after all the hard climbing is over.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: CapitalistPunter on August 26, 2022, 03:21:24 pm
The last move is given 7A and it's soft at that.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Andy W on August 26, 2022, 03:29:16 pm
Regeneration, is a sit start as well isn’t it?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: abarro81 on August 26, 2022, 03:31:44 pm
 :off: As per Andy's Q, does Regeneration really start from a crouch like that? I remember trying from a sit and failing, but assumed that was my shitness not it being a crouch start?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Andy W on August 26, 2022, 03:44:05 pm
:off: As per Andy's Q, does Regeneration really start from a crouch like that? I remember trying from a sit and failing, but assumed that was my shitness not it being a crouch start?

It’s a sit, I was just being polite  ;)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: AMorris on August 26, 2022, 03:44:49 pm
Regeneration is certainly a sitter, and hauling off the deck to snatch into the holds is probably the hardest move because of lack of feet. After that pretty steady. There is a good (and soft, which is nice) left hand extension which traverses into the last move of Sway on too. Had a play on Sway On when I was there and the first move is desperate, second tricky, the rest 6C ish iirc (not that I can climb even 6C nowdays, gotta love PIP synovitis...)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Ross Barker on August 26, 2022, 04:45:31 pm
Looks like they didn't even start The Ramp from the bottom of the ramp either!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Wood FT on August 26, 2022, 05:38:08 pm
They looked like they had a nice day out. I'm jealous.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: andy moles on August 26, 2022, 06:47:05 pm
They looked like they had a nice day out. I'm jealous.

Back yourself G, it's totally achievable.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on August 26, 2022, 07:50:30 pm
Blimey, you lot are even more miserable, cynical, and dour than me. Heartwarming stuff!!

Actually genuinely reassured that even the mild-mannered professor thinks, in his mild-mannered way, that such clickbaitery can fuck off.

I agree with Chris and Jamie that the ascent and indeed the footage of the climbing stand up in their own right, and by implication there was a really good video waiting to be hatched: Lose the clickbait title, lose the fucking 7m altimeter, and trim it down quite a bit. Not hard to do really!! I think that's what we want - quality video of a quality climb?? Oh and something about grades too....
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Wellsy on August 26, 2022, 07:55:19 pm
YouTube algorithms apparently really reward those clickbaity thumbnails. I'm not saying it justifies it but there's absolutely a reason people do it
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on August 26, 2022, 07:58:26 pm
Cunts.

("You'll NOT BELIEVE the INSANE success these cunts have with their WILD clickbait")
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: MischaHY on August 27, 2022, 01:37:29 pm
Blimey, you lot are even more miserable, cynical, and dour than me. Heartwarming stuff!!

Actually genuinely reassured that even the mild-mannered professor thinks, in his mild-mannered way, that such clickbaitery can fuck off.

I agree with Chris and Jamie that the ascent and indeed the footage of the climbing stand up in their own right, and by implication there was a really good video waiting to be hatched: Lose the clickbait title, lose the fucking 7m altimeter, and trim it down quite a bit. Not hard to do really!! I think that's what we want - quality video of a quality climb?? Oh and something about grades too....

As others have said the issue is that this kind of content does not get clicks in the current youtube environment. There is a reason that channels like Wideboyz are also engaging in the baiting - it's absolutely necessary to generate the kind of traffic they need.

I'll also point out (politely, because I really don't mean to offend) that you and the majority of this thread are not the target audience and they don't care if you never watch it. There are hundreds of thousands of climbers/aspiring climbers/sports enthusiasts/people who find this interesting enough to click on/people who think Anna is fit/random kids who are proper keen on this sort of thing and will drive the numbers up wildly. Money talks and I full respect their right to not give a flying f*** about our opinions (I also dislike clickbait excessively).

To be honest though the reaction here is all very OTT. Considering some of the absolute mindless drivel that gets traction on youtube e.g. that one guy that makes millions posting pokemon playthroughs (and that's the high end stuff) this is well thought out content of good climbers doing their thing. Yes, it's not Mellow - but we're not all D woods and channels like that are a rare breed for a reason.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Wellsy on August 27, 2022, 02:05:59 pm
Its a shame that they feel they have to advertise their stuff that way, and a shame it will probably work in a sense. Cool ascent and admirable technical skills though.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: petejh on August 27, 2022, 05:11:17 pm
As others have said the issue is that this kind of content does not get clicks in the current youtube environment. There is a reason that channels like Wideboyz are also engaging in the baiting - it's absolutely necessary to generate the kind of traffic they need.

I'll also point out (politely, because I really don't mean to offend) that you and the majority of this thread are not the target audience and they don't care if you never watch it. There are hundreds of thousands of climbers/aspiring climbers/sports enthusiasts/people who find this interesting enough to click on/people who think Anna is fit/random kids who are proper keen on this sort of thing and will drive the numbers up wildly. Money talks and I full respect their right to not give a flying f*** about our opinions (I also dislike clickbait excessively).

To be honest though the reaction here is all very OTT. Considering some of the absolute mindless drivel that gets traction on youtube e.g. that one guy that makes millions posting pokemon playthroughs (and that's the high end stuff) this is well thought out content of good climbers doing their thing. Yes, it's not Mellow - but we're not all D woods and channels like that are a rare breed for a reason.


This is all true and fair enough. It's very much hate the game not the player. Which is all most on here seem to be doing, hating the game that that some people have chosen to play. A lot of people think it's a cynical game which doesn't represent their experience of climbing - a bit like when Sharma (who virtually everyone respects for his climbing) does some ridiculously shit film with heartthrob celebratory rock orangutan, Jason Momo.  At least she hasn't started selling r.edbull to children, yet...
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: chriss on August 28, 2022, 10:41:56 pm
I mean I'm not part of the scene & a relative punter, but YouTube etc rely on clicks . It's part of the YouTube game. If you look at the pros from Matt Jones (MTB) to Magnus Midtbo they all love click bait.

I think Anna would of done this without having a vlogger following along.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: abarro81 on August 29, 2022, 08:08:06 am
It's perfectly reasonable to hate the game and think worse of the players surely... If you go down the "appeal to idiots" route, you have to accept that non-idiots may think poorly of it (this applies not just to "pro climber"/influencer types but politicians, "celebrities" of all kinds etc surely)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Wood FT on August 29, 2022, 08:18:12 am
Barros, don't be hard on yourself, you are an idiot. Just a different kind of idiot.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: highrepute on August 29, 2022, 09:35:26 am
She doesn’t do it though, she misses out the first move which is the hard one.

I actually thought kodus if she did the second move on that, that's still pretty nails. But nope, she skips that one too. So just the end, after all the hard climbing is over.

To be fair, she's not claiming to have done the 8a.

The clickbait stuff is annoying but if it means you can monetise how I
pretty much lived in my 20s then fair play to them, I'm jealous.

Anna's content does actually seem pretty good, but I rarely click because of the titles.

Also, despite all that, the send footage in this is quality
https://youtu.be/-dNWbndhciM
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: abarro81 on August 29, 2022, 10:07:21 am
Barros, don't be hard on yourself, you are an idiot. Just a different kind of idiot.
Too true, but different enough to feel endlessly superior to all the other idiots  :lol:

To be fair, she's not claiming to have done the 8a.
No, though the editing with the spotter's reaction for the final move is just ambiguous enough that you could come away with the wrong impression if you were so inclined... A more cynical soul might wonder if that were intentional, but I presume it's just a lack of thinking.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on September 17, 2022, 08:33:15 pm
Pretty incredible looking solo / highball done by Mat Wright:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CinmawcjuNk/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on September 22, 2022, 08:38:33 pm
New 8B+ at the schoolroom from Jim Pope. Doesn't get much more significant than that.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ci0eZGmDIAv/
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: teestub on September 22, 2022, 09:26:10 pm
Near the other end of the steepness spectrum, an 8B+ wall in font for Nico Januel, looks amazing!
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ci0JoHWLgqj/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on September 22, 2022, 10:13:53 pm
Looks very cool, what do you think he means by ground start?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: teestub on September 22, 2022, 10:31:31 pm
Sounds like this is the full start to an 8A that started off the block you can see to the left
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on September 22, 2022, 11:59:44 pm
ah makes sense cheers
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: edshakey on September 25, 2022, 07:40:13 pm
Pete W has done his big Gogarth thing. "E8 experience". Sounds great/awful/incredible/horrendous

Quote
The Gogarth roof finally comes together!
3 pitch adventure across (possibly?) Britain's biggest roof climb.

Although not a pure crack at all, you get to use a full range of crack techniques on it:
- Hand, fist, teacups, butterfly jams
- arm bars, kneebars and chicken wings
- foot cams, inverts and wide pony.
- squeeze and bridging
- head jams (back of my head is bruised...)

4 x #5 and 4 x #6 is a minimum at the larger end of the rack.

Not sure if those kind of details excite people to try 😅 but the terrain it covers is pretty wild.

The route is well protected with a few safe run outs. But you should expect an E8 experience to get across the thing.

Big thanks to both George Smith for the tip off and especially @calummuskett who came for numerous sessions and had the joy of seconding...
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on September 25, 2022, 08:11:55 pm
Also a link, which may or may not work because insta and FB are giant piles of leprotic shit:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ci8JBrcMzVt/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

I concur with your assessment, ed.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Neil F on September 26, 2022, 09:50:45 am
Is that at Porth Dafarch  :-\

I'm guessing they climbed this on Saturday, as we were on Yellow Wall both days this weekend and conditions on Sunday weren't great...
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: andy moles on September 26, 2022, 12:52:18 pm
conditions on Sunday weren't great...

He looks pretty sweaty.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on October 15, 2022, 01:44:58 pm
One of those "how has this not been done before" things:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cjuwy7jjzsc/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: edshakey on October 15, 2022, 03:05:14 pm
Has the slab to the right been done?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on October 18, 2022, 11:02:40 am
http://northwalesbouldering.com/newsitem.asp?nsid=1029

This looks amazing!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Wellsy on October 18, 2022, 11:33:16 am
Yeah that looks way cool
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: teestub on October 18, 2022, 12:06:19 pm
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i9rYCBMK7IQ

This vid from the FA of the higher start shows what looks to be a glorious pinch hold
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: casa on October 19, 2022, 12:53:05 pm
Was there climbing in that Panton vid? i spent most of the vid watching the dog :)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Duma on November 03, 2022, 05:34:14 pm
Seb has done the FA of the direct start to Jumbo Love, adds 20 m of 9a before the crux of the original: Supréme Jumbo Love 9b+, 70m, and hardest route in the Americas

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkgdJYfpHDO/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: jwi on November 03, 2022, 06:02:26 pm
Very cool. Seb Bouin really does everything he tries now, doesn't he?

Deeply disappointed that he did not grade it 9b/b+. I feel almost betrayed.

The Darth Grader calculator says 9b+ though.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fultonius on November 03, 2022, 06:10:23 pm
Seb has done the FA of the direct start to Jumbo Love, adds 20 m of 9a before the crux of the original: Supréme Jumbo Love 9b+, 70m, and hardest route in the Americas

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkgdJYfpHDO/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Surely Jumbo Lover was THE name do it? Or Mumbo Jumbo....
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on November 03, 2022, 06:33:05 pm
The Darth Grader calculator says 9b+ though.

All hail Darth.

Skinny Love?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on November 03, 2022, 06:50:40 pm
Very cool. Seb Bouin really does everything he tries now, doesn't he?

Deeply disappointed that he did not grade it 9b/b+. I feel almost betrayed.

The Darth Grader calculator says 9b+ though.
9b/c??

Mumbo Jumbo would be better.

Good effort.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: jwi on November 03, 2022, 07:13:49 pm
More importantly, will the French spelling of Suprême stand? I see that the route is reported as being named “Suprême Jumbo Love” in all online media, but surely that is just copy-paste? Or is suprême referring to the sauce?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: mrjonathanr on November 03, 2022, 07:42:50 pm
I can see a tie-in with Bouin’s cooking sauces and condiments working nicely here. Saussois Sauce, Buoux Béchamel, Verdon Velouté… it worked for Paul Newman  :shrug:
Pity he missed the obvious name Jambalaya.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: jwi on November 04, 2022, 01:49:04 pm
This is a good occasion to re watch the uncut ascent of Jumbo Love by Ethan Pringle

https://vimeo.com/218653943

(I found the reel rock segment of the same footage almost unwatchable, but you can find it on Rouge Bêtise TV)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: jwi on December 19, 2022, 03:33:07 pm
About a month ago Lucien Martinez did the first re-ascent of Chicken Deluxe since it lost 17 sika-holds in a tragic accident. Significant for me as I belayed on it quite a bit as I have tried one of the easy routes at Super Manjoc all autumn without success. Also clearly the hardest route in the South-West of France. And obviously 9b, but Lucien took 9a+ for it.

Long interview here https://fanatic-climbing.com/lucien-martinez-propose-chicken-deluxe-9a-lucien-martinez-frees-chicken-deluxe-9a/

Super-manjoc now has four nines side by side and one more a few routes to the left. There are a few more routes in the 9th grade some 100 m down along the cliff band, so plenty to go at for strong climbers who likes steep physical climbing.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Duma on December 19, 2022, 03:58:46 pm
Excellent interview, thanks for the link Jonas
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: edshakey on December 22, 2022, 02:20:09 pm
New 8C+ for Drew Ruana, linking 8A into 8B+ into 8A/+

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJEMuGHaohQ

Not the most aesthetic, and with a pretty disappointing finish, but clearly hard.

Much more interestingly, that is his 99th 8B+ or higher this year. Absolutely incredible volume of top end climbing - is there anyone else doing this?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on December 22, 2022, 02:51:47 pm
https://www.climbing.com/people/drew-ruana-colorado-bouldering-interview/

While studying full-time? Impressive
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: MischaHY on December 22, 2022, 02:55:02 pm
New 8C+ for Drew Ruana, linking 8A into 8B+ into 8A/+

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJEMuGHaohQ

Not the most aesthetic, and with a pretty disappointing finish, but clearly hard.

Much more interestingly, that is his 99th 8B+ or higher this year. Absolutely incredible volume of top end climbing - is there anyone else doing this?

YOU'RE PSYCHED DOG. YES DREWDOG PSYCHE WOO  :icon_beerchug: :punk:

Gotta love it tho aintcha
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: edshakey on December 22, 2022, 03:11:13 pm
YOU'RE PSYCHED DOG. YES DREWDOG PSYCHE WOO  :icon_beerchug: :punk:

Gotta love it tho aintcha

COME ON BEAST, GET THIS MOVE BRO

Can somebody invest some time in getting a study done on whether being referred to as "beast" does in fact make you a beast? It'd be a shame to miss out on all that untapped strength that the Americans are clearly using!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Wellsy on December 22, 2022, 05:37:04 pm
New 8C+ for Drew Ruana, linking 8A into 8B+ into 8A/+

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJEMuGHaohQ

Not the most aesthetic, and with a pretty disappointing finish, but clearly hard.

Much more interestingly, that is his 99th 8B+ or higher this year. Absolutely incredible volume of top end climbing - is there anyone else doing this?

That is a route, you can't fool me!

What does 8A into 8B+ into 8A/+ give as a sport grade?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: edshakey on December 22, 2022, 05:50:20 pm
That is a route, you can't fool me!

What does 8A into 8B+ into 8A/+ give as a sport grade?

Not sure on rests, but he doesn't really rest until the point which I assume is between the final 2 boulders?

Harshest is
8A - good - 8B+ - good - 8A/+ = soft 9b+

Kindest is
8A - none - 8B+ - none - 8A/+ = 9c

A reasonable middle ground that seems to reflect his ascent?
8A - bad - 8B+ - medium - 8A/+ = hard 9b+

If we accept Darth grader's calculations, it's at least a solid 9b+, maybe a /c too.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on December 22, 2022, 05:53:56 pm
Much more interestingly, that is his 99th 8B+ or higher this year. Absolutely incredible volume of top end climbing - is there anyone else doing this?

JackPal is on >100 8th grade problems in the UK this year. Need to get him to up his game for next year.

On the darth grader maths, there's an added rope faff factor so you can take a bit of the suggested grade.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on December 22, 2022, 06:40:33 pm
Not a repeat, but Jakob sounds odds on to do Alphane in January, further cementing its position as the Keen Roof of 9A.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CmephvEDPw3/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on December 22, 2022, 07:07:05 pm
Pretty sure that would be a repeat ;)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: jwi on December 22, 2022, 07:17:02 pm

On the darth grader maths, there's an added rope faff factor so you can take a bit of the suggested grade.

This is pretty much how I understood Fountainbleau traverse grades: long 7b boulder ~ 7c traverse ~ 8a route.

Good climbers rarely toprope entire routes, but if they did they would know that climbing an 8b on a clean toprope without clipping or unclipping anything feels about 8a. (This style is called "try-or-fly" by a local enthusiast who likes to toprope wildly overhanging routes and taking absolutely huge swings when falling.)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: lukeyboy on December 22, 2022, 07:38:23 pm
New 8C+ for Drew Ruana, linking 8A into 8B+ into 8A/+

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJEMuGHaohQ

Not the most aesthetic, and with a pretty disappointing finish, but clearly hard.

Much more interestingly, that is his 99th 8B+ or higher this year. Absolutely incredible volume of top end climbing - is there anyone else doing this?

That is a route, you can't fool me!

What does 8A into 8B+ into 8A/+ give as a sport grade?

This looks hard and shit, in equal measure.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: owensum on December 22, 2022, 10:49:09 pm
New 8C+ for Drew Ruana, linking 8A into 8B+ into 8A/+

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJEMuGHaohQ

Not the most aesthetic, and with a pretty disappointing finish, but clearly hard.

Much more interestingly, that is his 99th 8B+ or higher this year. Absolutely incredible volume of top end climbing - is there anyone else doing this?

That is a route, you can't fool me!

What does 8A into 8B+ into 8A/+ give as a sport grade?

This looks hard and shit, in equal measure.

yeah he's up there with ondra for this type of climb
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on December 23, 2022, 08:34:48 am
I'd have appreciated a spot rather than shouting. Looks hard.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on December 23, 2022, 10:23:47 am
Much more interestingly, that is his 99th 8B+ or higher this year. Absolutely incredible volume of top end climbing - is there anyone else doing this?

Are you sure it's 99 V14+ this year?

In March he did his 50th V14 (all time). I know he's done an enormous number of V14+ problems this year but even so seems more like it's 99 V14+ overall rather than in a calendar year.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CbxPKWwO_Rv/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

8a.nu also saying it's "close to 90 8B+ and harder" (all time):

https://www.8a.nu/news/bookkeeping-8c+-fa-by-drew-ruana-db1bd

JackPal is on >100 8th grade problems in the UK this year. Need to get him to up his game for next year.

He was on about doing 10 a month next year the other day. Mind blowing achievement, especially in the UK. Just to have managed to get out, in conditions conducive to climbing 8A, that many times is impressive! 
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on December 23, 2022, 10:24:13 am
Pretty sure that would be a repeat ;)

 :slap:
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: edshakey on December 23, 2022, 11:52:44 am
Much more interestingly, that is his 99th 8B+ or higher this year. Absolutely incredible volume of top end climbing - is there anyone else doing this?

Are you sure it's 99 V14+ this year?

In March he did his 50th V14 (all time). I know he's done an enormous number of V14+ problems this year but even so seems more like it's 99 V14+ overall rather than in a calendar year.


... I may have been mistaken. He mentioned wanting 100 by the end of the year, think I must have interpreted it as 100 total this year. Oops!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: owensum on January 27, 2023, 03:50:04 pm
Canada's first V16, The Megg in Squamish.

https://gripped.com/profiles/an-interview-with-gabe-lawson-on-canadas-first-v16/
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on January 27, 2023, 05:50:25 pm
Canada's first V16, The Megg in Squamish.

https://gripped.com/profiles/an-interview-with-gabe-lawson-on-canadas-first-v16/

Ace that it's a lovely looking line too, no need to worry about what's in our out there!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on January 27, 2023, 06:14:32 pm
The moss is out - no dabbing it. A nice bit of rock indeed.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: mrjonathanr on January 28, 2023, 08:52:15 am
I went on a route at Lourdes which had a big, moss covered tufa bulge exactly where you’d flag your foot on the crux. It had a handy disc of sika covering just the right spot. The moss was definitely ‘in’.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: jwi on January 29, 2023, 04:18:46 pm
The indefatigable Jean-Pierre Bouvier has put up another there-and-back traverse in Fontainebleau: Contre Courant (9A trav). If the grade sticks it has to be one of the hardest, if not the hardest, ascent of a 65-year old? People seem to be somewhat willing to repeat his left-to-right and right-to-left traverses, but his there-and-backs haven't seen many attempts by other climbers.

Interview in Grimper Magazine (https://www.grimper.com/news-inoxydable-jean-pierre-bouvier-65-ans-ouvre-nouvelle-traversee-dure-fontainebleau).
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Ru on January 29, 2023, 05:14:51 pm
The indefatigable Jean-Pierre Bouvier has put up another there-and-back traverse in Fontainebleau: Contre Courant (9A trav). If the grade sticks it has to be one of the hardest, if not the hardest, ascent of a 65-year old? People seem to be somewhat willing to repeat his left-to-right and right-to-left traverses, but his there-and-backs haven't seen many attempts by other climbers.

Interview in Grimper Magazine (https://www.grimper.com/news-inoxydable-jean-pierre-bouvier-65-ans-ouvre-nouvelle-traversee-dure-fontainebleau).

There-and-back traverses do feel to be particularly arbitrary, even within the ambit of the more arbitrary reaches of bouldering, although I can't explain rationally why that should be so. Although they're less arbitrary than figure 8s and other weird looping Font link ups. Anyway, agree that it must be the hardest bit of climbing by a 65 year old to date. Even more notable that this was 40+ years after he did the "hardest route in France." It's amazing that he's still motivated by this sort of thing.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: jwi on January 29, 2023, 05:41:56 pm

There-and-back traverses do feel to be particularly arbitrary, even within the ambit of the more arbitrary reaches of bouldering, although I can't explain rationally why that should be so.

I agree. In retrospect I should not have called this particular bit of climbing an 'ascent'.

Anyway, Fanatic Climbing has a nice article on Chimpanzodrome, the first 7c+ in France (maybe) https://fanatic-climbing.com/il-etait-une-voie-chimpanzodrome-once-upon-a-line-chimpanzodrome/

Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fultonius on January 29, 2023, 06:00:00 pm
The indefatigable Jean-Pierre Bouvier has put up another there-and-back traverse in Fontainebleau: Contre Courant (9A trav). If the grade sticks it has to be one of the hardest, if not the hardest, ascent of a 65-year old? People seem to be somewhat willing to repeat his left-to-right and right-to-left traverses, but his there-and-backs haven't seen many attempts by other climbers.

Interview in Grimper Magazine (https://www.grimper.com/news-inoxydable-jean-pierre-bouvier-65-ans-ouvre-nouvelle-traversee-dure-fontainebleau).

I love the fact he just won't rust! 
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on January 29, 2023, 06:32:04 pm
There-and-back traverses do feel to be particularly arbitrary, even within the ambit of the more arbitrary reaches of bouldering, although I can't explain rationally why that should be so. Although they're less arbitrary than figure 8s and other weird looping Font link ups. Anyway, agree that it must be the hardest bit of climbing by a 65 year old to date. Even more notable that this was 40+ years after he did the "hardest route in France." It's amazing that he's still motivated by this sort of thing.

Surely it's the purest form of ascent, combining a technical approach with a technical descent combining to form a full experience, where a typical boulder problem seeks the easiest path off the boulder, eschewing the full challenge.

(In case it's not obvious, that's sarcasm).

Any idea what font trav grades translate to in normal boulder grades? Or sport grades? A quick google wasn't very illuminating.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: jwi on January 29, 2023, 07:22:10 pm
Traverse grades are supposed to be a solution to the common complaints that traverses are longer than boulders and shouldn't be grades as boulders, and at the same time they don't involve ropes and clipping and should not be grades as routes.

Most climbers feel that an 8A traverse is easier for them than an 8A boulder and a touch harder than an 8a route.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Wellsy on February 05, 2023, 09:42:56 am
Stefano Ghisolfi has done excalibur

https://www.instagram.com/p/CoRqBUssJoy/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

9b+ for sure apparently, his hardest FA and hardest route in Italy
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: jwi on February 05, 2023, 09:55:21 am
Wow. He looked very close on that video he posted a few days ago, so maybe not so surprising.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on February 05, 2023, 12:08:15 pm
Great stuff. I watched Ondra's video of it the other day, pretty incredible line up a free standing boulder! Does it top out?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: finbarrr on February 05, 2023, 01:00:47 pm
Yes, he tops out in a recent video of him and Bosi working the route
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on February 08, 2023, 09:42:09 am
Good stuff! WB vs AO for the 2nd ascent?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: jwi on February 08, 2023, 09:59:21 am
Ondra posted a video indicating that he has given up for now as one of the holds feels tweaky.

Is this the shortest 9b+, or is Vasil vasil even shorter?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on February 08, 2023, 05:45:46 pm
Jorge Diaze-Rullo has made the first ascent of Mejorando la Samfaina and suggested 9b+. Presumably it's a linkup of Mejorando Imagen 9b and Samfaina 9a.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CoZkllYtda-/
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on February 08, 2023, 05:47:28 pm
Is this the shortest 9b+, or is Vasil vasil even shorter?

The breakdown of Vasil Vasil is apparently 8b in to 8B+ (which itself has a single move that is ~8B!) From the arm chair it sounds like Vasil is more cruxy whereas Excalibur is more power endurance.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Ed booth on February 09, 2023, 05:35:47 pm
Bon Voyage hard new trad route from Pearson at Annot. Looks cool
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on February 09, 2023, 06:47:25 pm
Bon Voyage hard new trad route from Pearson at Annot. Looks cool

From some of the working footage he's put up on IG it looks like an incredible piece of climbing on some pretty marginal pockets. Mega effort.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CocodAqofQ5/
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: jwi on February 20, 2023, 09:06:29 am
Jorge Diaze-Rullo has made the first ascent of Mejorando la Samfaina and suggested 9b+. Presumably it's a linkup of Mejorando Imagen 9b and Samfaina 9a.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CoZkllYtda-/

As the warning signs on French railway crossings says Un train peut en cacher un autre. One significant first ascent might hide another. Hasn't Jorge Diaz Rullo gotten very little media milage out of what is surely a very hard ascent at maybe the world most popular crag for hard routes?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Kingy on February 20, 2023, 04:00:21 pm
Yeah, it seems to have gone under the radar for a 9b+. I reckon this may be due to the lack of cachet that linkups attract in general regardless of their difficulty and the fact that it was his sideproject for Cafe Columbia, which may perhaps be 9c. No doubt he will make a splash when that one goes down.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Duma on February 20, 2023, 07:55:29 pm
Ondras new thing is a link too?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Kingy on February 20, 2023, 08:05:54 pm
oh yes so it is! guess that theorys out the window...
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on February 20, 2023, 09:10:55 pm
I think it's just because Ondra and Stefano have a bigger media presence. Ondra in particular has a pretty impressive squad who work with him by the sounds of it. Jorge's one man IG account is the dark horse of pro climbers!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: andy moles on February 26, 2023, 08:00:56 am
This was interesting to me at least, just noticed that Dan Varian has done the project wall left of The Mission in Torridon this month, which I believe he's been trying on and off for many years:

https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/torridon_celtic_jumble-2860/the_magna_strata-679930
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: lukeyboy on February 26, 2023, 08:11:37 am
This was interesting to me at least, just noticed that Dan Varian has done the project wall left of The Mission in Torridon this month, which I believe he's been trying on and off for many years:

https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/torridon_celtic_jumble-2860/the_magna_strata-679930

Brilliant, thanks for sharing. Looks to me like it goes up the middle of the rippled face to the R of Malcs Arete. From the road you'd expect a route up that face to be about 5+, amazing that it's so hard but still possible. It's a lovely bit of rock.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: scragrock on February 26, 2023, 08:23:46 am
This was interesting to me at least, just noticed that Dan Varian has done the project wall left of The Mission in Torridon this month, which I believe he's been trying on and off for many years:

https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/torridon_celtic_jumble-2860/the_magna_strata-679930

Yup, i confirm its been years in the making. i had a conversation with Dan as he was working/cleaning it on a rope some years back, he thought it was hard, then popped a crucial pebble and suspected it might not go.
I would appear that it does go ;D
Great effort Dan and a fine addition to Torridon.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on February 26, 2023, 08:38:14 am
Quality name game too.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on February 26, 2023, 09:23:41 am
Really flipping cool.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: GazM on February 26, 2023, 10:50:54 am
Think Dan's been trying it off and on for 11 years. Amazing persistence. Expect we'll be waiting just as long (or forever?) for a repeat. I don't know how it climbs but suspect it's the complete anti-style for most modern powerful boulderers.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on February 26, 2023, 12:32:29 pm
Expect we'll be waiting just as long (or forever?) for a repeat. I don't know how it climbs but suspect it's the complete anti-style for most modern powerful boulderers.

Dunno, having 2 or 3 grades in hand can make up for quite a lot. Hopefully it doesn't linger unrepeated for years.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: sherlock on February 26, 2023, 04:52:55 pm
Think Dan's been trying it off and on for 11 years. Amazing persistence. Expect we'll be waiting just as long (or forever?) for a repeat. I don't know how it climbs but suspect it's the complete anti-style for most modern powerful boulderers.
Nice one Dan, was great to hear you finally got it done! Excellent strike in a small connies window too  :2thumbsup:!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on February 26, 2023, 07:25:30 pm
Great stuff.

(http://bp1.blogger.com/_0lz-dwFTZYw/RdleMPJ24wI/AAAAAAAAADU/J1OaAu4lZA0/s0-d/The+Mission2+pic+Ian+Taylor.jpg)

Left of this. Rock aesthetics are pretty decent!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Duma on February 26, 2023, 08:08:00 pm
Fuck me that looks amazing!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on February 26, 2023, 10:00:19 pm
So psyched |Dan has done this.

OT but If it was closer, i would love to put some time in in The Mission (which Richie is on in that pic). I expect it would be more likely to go down to a steeling fingered mature gent than Malc's.

you can see there is quite a gap between the Mission and Malc's here. https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/torridon_celtic_jumble-2860/the_mission-102944#videos
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bonjoy on February 27, 2023, 09:29:58 am
I don't know how it climbs but suspect it's the complete anti-style for most modern powerful boulderers.
"The sequence now is crazy, I have to side crab and lower my hips, then grab a half a 5p pebble and get in balance to bump my rh across the slot into more of a crimp, then I can lock up to a higher pebble and whip over for a hold on the top."
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on February 27, 2023, 09:44:27 am
unless he's spragging quarks it's not hard.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: GazM on February 27, 2023, 10:38:03 am
"The sequence now is crazy, I have to side crab and lower my hips, then grab a half a 5p pebble and get in balance to bump my rh across the slot into more of a crimp, then I can lock up to a higher pebble and whip over for a hold on the top."
Superb. Perhaps its actually good fodder for some Olympic style slab magician.
Where did that description come from? Pers. comm, or is there something juicy online?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bonjoy on February 27, 2023, 11:54:20 am
Pers comm. Dave say hi, from Ceuse etc...
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: teestub on February 27, 2023, 12:38:57 pm
Amazing! Can’t be many harder things worldwide at this sort of angle? I have some vague recollections of hard face climb boulders in Japan maybe?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: andy moles on February 27, 2023, 12:43:44 pm
I was looking closely at this yesterday. It may be a slab, but it's like 89.9°. Unbelievably thin, I can't imagine adhering to it the whole way up. Then again, I can't get off the ground on The Mission. Stunning bit of rock. How do I share a photo?





Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Tom de Gay on February 27, 2023, 01:22:55 pm
Amazing! Can’t be many harder things worldwide at this sort of angle? I have some vague recollections of hard face climb boulders in Japan maybe?
Kakusei is a true slab at Ogawayama, graded 5-Dan, which is something like 8B+/8C.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAAc2BZtz1E
The left hand exit that he runs a few laps on for a warm up is 8B! Also no pads, as per first ascent.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on February 27, 2023, 01:56:46 pm
I was looking closely at this yesterday. It may be a slab, but it's like 89.9°. Unbelievably thin, I can't imagine adhering to it the whole way up. Then again, I can't get off the ground on The Mission. Stunning bit of rock. How do I share a photo?

upload to IG and link.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: cowboyhat on February 27, 2023, 02:02:20 pm
Think Dan's been trying it off and on for 11 years. Amazing persistence.

Presumably waiting for some chargers to be installed en route
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on February 27, 2023, 02:23:17 pm
Kakusei is a true slab at Ogawayama, graded 5-Dan, which is something like 8B+/8C.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAAc2BZtz1E
The left hand exit that he runs a few laps on for a warm up is 8B! Also no pads, as per first ascent.

That looks hardcore! When you said no pads I assumed the top wouldn't be mega thin and 15ft off the ground.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on February 27, 2023, 02:33:22 pm
Fair enough, no pads as per FA, at least have a spotter. Couldn't believe height when they changed views.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: chrisbrooke on February 27, 2023, 04:27:23 pm
Very impressive climbing. Thanks for sharing that one.
Makes for an easy walk-in I suppose. I'd be wanting about 5 pads on that (not that I could climb it, obviously....)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: AMorris on February 27, 2023, 05:23:07 pm
Amazing! Can’t be many harder things worldwide at this sort of angle? I have some vague recollections of hard face climb boulders in Japan maybe?
Kakusei is a true slab at Ogawayama, graded 5-Dan, which is something like 8B+/8C.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAAc2BZtz1E
The left hand exit that he runs a few laps on for a warm up is 8B! Also no pads, as per first ascent.

Holy crap. Just the idea at looking up at a slab that blank and hard and deciding to try and find a sequence is far beyond my climbing imagination. Superb.

And great work Dan, the line looks as aesthetic in both form and setting as anything anywhere.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Johnny Brown on February 27, 2023, 06:39:35 pm
Amazing! Can’t be many harder things worldwide at this sort of angle? I have some vague recollections of hard face climb boulders in Japan maybe?
Kakusei is a true slab at Ogawayama, graded 5-Dan, which is something like 8B+/8C.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAAc2BZtz1E
The left hand exit that he runs a few laps on for a warm up is 8B! Also no pads, as per first ascent.

😍😍 Have you been Tom? That boulder looks AMAZING!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Tom de Gay on February 27, 2023, 06:52:22 pm
Amazing! Can’t be many harder things worldwide at this sort of angle? I have some vague recollections of hard face climb boulders in Japan maybe?
Kakusei is a true slab at Ogawayama, graded 5-Dan, which is something like 8B+/8C.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAAc2BZtz1E
The left hand exit that he runs a few laps on for a warm up is 8B! Also no pads, as per first ascent.

😍😍 Have you been Tom? That boulder looks AMAZING!
Hoping to go and pay homage this summer. I think there are four straight up lines on the slabby face of that boulder and the easiest is 8B. The left arête is Banshousha, which Nalle repeated many years ago.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Johnny Brown on February 27, 2023, 07:08:06 pm
Lucky you, look forward to the live vlog!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: andy moles on February 28, 2023, 07:27:11 am
Here we go, I wanted to share the beauty of that south face of the Ship Boulder in the last minute of sunshine on Sunday:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CpMpCxIN7O3/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: MischaHY on February 28, 2023, 08:19:18 am
Here we go, I wanted to share the beauty of that south face of the Ship Boulder in the last minute of sunshine on Sunday:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CpMpCxIN7O3/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Looks totally amazing. Is 'Boulder Scotland' the best guide for this? Looks like a lot of development happened in the last 6 years. We're likely up that way in May and mega keen.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on February 28, 2023, 08:27:49 am
There is a specific Torridon Bouldering Guide. It's a few years old, but still good to get you to most things (produced by 2 occasional posters on here) and miles better than the Watson guide.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Torridon-Bouldering-Ian-Taylor/dp/0992704405

I'm psyched to get back too, been far too long. Tons of great trad too, Seana Mheallan (aka Sienna Miller) is great, plus a ton of other stuff.
 
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: GazM on February 28, 2023, 08:40:03 am
To supplement the Torridon guidebook there are a couple of useful updates on the Ullapool Outdoors blog:

https://ullapooloutdoors.co.uk/northwestoutdoorsullapool/2014/11/torridon-bouldering-update.html

https://ullapooloutdoors.co.uk/northwestoutdoorsullapool/2020/2/22/torridon-bouldering-update-2020


Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: andy moles on February 28, 2023, 08:58:53 am
Despite its popularity Torridon still feels like somewhere you can just wander around and discover undocumented stuff too.

Going there the other day reminded me that in 2017 I climbed a nice 7Aish wall up the hill somewhere, that it turned out Richie Betts had done a couple of weeks before, but I can't identify it in the update.

If you're there in May Mischa, there's also excellent single pitch trad nearby at Seana Mheallan (sandstone) and Diabaig (gneiss) - or even better, the high quartzite routes on Beinn Eighe which are as good as any UK mountain trad, if it's warm enough for that.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on February 28, 2023, 09:37:33 am
To supplement the Torridon guidebook there are a couple of useful updates on the Ullapool Outdoors blog:

https://ullapooloutdoors.co.uk/northwestoutdoorsullapool/2014/11/torridon-bouldering-update.html

https://ullapooloutdoors.co.uk/northwestoutdoorsullapool/2020/2/22/torridon-bouldering-update-2020

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Wot's Hairpinning
clear winner from the the names.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Andy B on February 28, 2023, 09:56:10 am
Thank you very much.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on February 28, 2023, 07:24:33 pm
Aidan's got to work quickly out in Switzerland by establishing Unison ~8C. https://www.instagram.com/p/CpN5YtfDgkh/

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Unison - First Ascent

This climb felt to be a rather special one for me and my experience with it has been dispersed throughout my trips to Ticino. I actually first visited this area just one year ago but have since spent over 3 months in these beautiful valleys. Now, as I begin my latest trip, I have begun to realise my attachment to this place. It’s hard not to appreciate the rock quality and the landscapes but my observation feels to supersede this still, I refer to that comfort of a landscape which feels familiar, and almost like a home.

With this has come the satisfaction of feeling to help develop an area which has offered me so much. Indeed, the trip thus far has mostly been focussed on opening new lines I have been inspired by.

I actually saw this face on my earliest days in Ticino, but with no landing and dirty holds it barely looked possible for me at that time. I’d almost forgotten about it actually, until @shawnraboutou showed me it again last Autumn and we got a little excited by its potential. So my first rest day this trip was filled with cleaning the holds and carefully arranging logs. But still it looked a little dangerous to try. And so the following day, after getting a strange split on another climb, @onceuponaclimb @luke_murphy_98 @tompeckitt @giuliano_cameroni rallied and together we crafted a solid log platform which somewhat transformed the safety of the boulder. In the dying light, we were able to sample the moves enough to know that the line was possible.

We soon returned and I promptly settled on this sequence. It felt hard, the edges are small and required a lot of precision, the feet are similar and yet the true difficulty feels to lie in coordinating use of the two. I’d say the style suits me almost perfectly and after a good rest I was able to climb it on my first try from the beginning.

It’s hard to gauge the difficulty, especially when this suits me so well. But consensus was that it was perhaps 8C. Hopefully future ascents will shine more light on it. But with the memories around this boulder, it feels not to matter so much and I hope others enjoy it similarly. Thank you for the spots and good times to those who helped :)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: PlainCroi$$ant on February 28, 2023, 11:13:38 pm
Ace looking line!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on February 28, 2023, 11:58:00 pm
IG is blocked on my work PC and I can't see anything on Aidan's page, where is the quote from?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Moo on March 01, 2023, 12:19:54 am
It’s from Instagram where Aidan likes to post in the style of Herman Melville.

Great looking wall.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: MischaHY on March 01, 2023, 08:03:32 am
Cheers for all the Torridon beta folks!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: User deactivated. on March 01, 2023, 08:32:45 am
It’s from Instagram where Aidan likes to post in the style of Herman Melville.

Great looking wall.

:lol:

I'm waiting for someone to put together a compilation of Aidan using the word 'puzzle'. It could be a drinking game at this stage; during new episodes of Careless Talk, take a shot every time you hear the word!

Anyway, that's enough blaspheming, I'm still a fully subscribed member to the church of Aidan. Incredible line and I'm looking forward to seeing what's next!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on March 01, 2023, 08:58:32 am
I can see it now, was looking in the grid bit not the vid bit. Looks like hard crimpin'
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: teestub on March 01, 2023, 08:59:45 am
Another stunner! I knew Switzerland had awesome potential, even in the popular areas,  but it’s been incredible watching the amount of 5* hard lines go up over the last few years.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: AMorris on March 01, 2023, 10:07:58 am
I'm still a fully subscribed member to the church of Aidan.
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Is it UKB policy that we must always form a church to honour the current strongest crimper in the Lakes? I don't hate it.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on March 01, 2023, 10:33:58 am
I would think so, why not??

Also when did the amp get cranked up to 5 stars?!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Wellsy on March 01, 2023, 10:56:26 am
If a slab gets 3 stars a crimpy overhang must get 5, stands to reason
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on March 01, 2023, 11:01:00 am
Knob.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Will Hunt on March 01, 2023, 11:17:50 am
On a point of order, I don't think that's a 5 star line (assuming 5 is the max score). It's a cool wall but it's basically a 2-number-grades-harder Manson's Wall. On the same bit of rock, the groove/ramp to the right is the better line.

Cool bit of climbing though. Allow me to supply the UKB equivalent of a bicep emoji.
 :strongbench:
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Scouse D on March 01, 2023, 11:22:48 am




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 we crafted a solid log platform


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Always climb better after one of those
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: teestub on March 01, 2023, 11:42:30 am
On a point of order, I don't think that's a 5 star line (assuming 5 is the max score). It's a cool wall but it's basically a 2-number-grades-harder Manson's Wall. On the same bit of rock, the groove/ramp to the right is the better line.

The fuck are you talking about? Are you saying a climb up a blank wall can’t be 5*?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on March 01, 2023, 11:59:57 am
Nice armchair Will.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: abarro81 on March 01, 2023, 12:10:54 pm
I think this might be a misunderstanding between "an x star line" and "an x star problem"? With line and problem maybe having been used interchangeably in teestub's original post?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: teestub on March 01, 2023, 12:18:54 pm
I think this might be a misunderstanding between "an x star line" and "an x star problem"? With line and problem maybe having been used interchangeably in teestub's original post?

Yes, feel free to replace ‘line’ with ‘problem’ (or bloc 🤮) in first post. But I also stand by the second post, Freak Brothers and Amandla being two examples that spring to mind.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Will Hunt on March 01, 2023, 12:52:14 pm
For sure, if this were written up in the UK you'd likely give it 3 stars. But if we're talking lines and rating out of 5 then probably not so much. Best line of crimps on a leaning wall that springs to mind is The Lash - the diagonal striations naturally drawing the eye/climber upwards: beauty.

Please accept two further bicep emojis by way of apology.
 :strongbench: :strongbench:
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Dingdong on March 01, 2023, 01:06:18 pm
I think this might be a misunderstanding between "an x star line" and "an x star problem"? With line and problem maybe having been used interchangeably in teestub's original post?

Yes, feel free to replace ‘line’ with ‘problem’ (or bloc 🤮) in first post. But I also stand by the second post, Freak Brothers and Amandla being two examples that spring to mind.

Alternatively: puzzle
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Will Hunt on March 01, 2023, 03:45:56 pm
Photos and video here that show much better how steep it is:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CpOBuWzDz-E/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Caramba.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: GazM on March 03, 2023, 06:22:32 pm
Magna Strata news coming to ukc.
 https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2023/03/what_is_the_worlds_hardest_slab_boulder-73268

Did they just read this thread to write that article?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Kingy on March 03, 2023, 06:35:11 pm
Yeah, looks like they're copying us!  :-\
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Ross Barker on March 03, 2023, 07:23:19 pm
On the topic of hard slabs, has anyone put time into Endless Nameless? Possibly at the risk of opening another Gaskins did-he-or-didn't-he discussion...
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Kingy on March 03, 2023, 08:19:13 pm
On the topic of hard slabs, has anyone put time into Endless Nameless? Possibly at the risk of opening another Gaskins did-he-or-didn't-he discussion...

I know Nik of this parish spent some time on it a while ago, which i remember reading about on a blog years ago. i stood under it last year and its filthy, would take a bit of effort to clean
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on March 03, 2023, 08:27:38 pm
On the topic of hard slabs, has anyone put time into Endless Nameless? Possibly at the risk of opening another Gaskins did-he-or-didn't-he discussion...

If I remember correctly Mike Adams has at least done all the moves.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Kingy on March 03, 2023, 08:44:14 pm

I know Nik of this parish spent some time on it a while ago, which i remember reading about on a blog years ago.

Just remembered, the info I read is in an interview with Nik in the back of the Lancashire bouldering guide
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: r-man on March 03, 2023, 10:45:48 pm
On the topic of hard slabs, has anyone put time into Endless Nameless? Possibly at the risk of opening another Gaskins did-he-or-didn't-he discussion...

If I remember correctly Mike Adams has at least done all the moves.

I don't think Mike has even tried it. He has done all the moves on Information Highway Revisited, the awesome arete in Montcliffe quarry. Gaskins gave that 7C+, Mike thought 8B.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: r-man on March 03, 2023, 10:49:15 pm
On the topic of hard slabs, has anyone put time into Endless Nameless? Possibly at the risk of opening another Gaskins did-he-or-didn't-he discussion...

I know Nik of this parish spent some time on it a while ago, which i remember reading about on a blog years ago. i stood under it last year and its filthy, would take a bit of effort to clean

Yeah, though the line Nik worked is at the left end of the slab, whereas Endless Nameless goes up the middle.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: andy moles on March 04, 2023, 06:57:32 am
Yeah, looks like they're copying us!  :-\

The cUKCoo effect.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on March 04, 2023, 07:03:16 am
On the topic of hard slabs, has anyone put time into Endless Nameless? Possibly at the risk of opening another Gaskins did-he-or-didn't-he discussion...

If I remember correctly Mike Adams has at least done all the moves.

I don't think Mike has even tried it. He has done all the moves on Information Highway Revisited, the awesome arete in Montcliffe quarry. Gaskins gave that 7C+, Mike thought 8B.

Ahhh that's what I was thinking of. Cheers.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on March 04, 2023, 09:57:04 am
This seems fairly significant to me; first ascent of the lower standing start to Imothep in Font, I.e. not stepping in off the boulder to the left. Sounds like good progress on the sit too!

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CpIjBI4oEUn/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Moo on March 04, 2023, 10:52:13 pm
Wow that’s pretty cool, the sit has to be amongst the best projects in front.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on March 06, 2023, 10:34:38 pm
Looks like Orrin Coley did his multi year project at Forest Rock today to add Ultra Instinct 8C

https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/forest_rock-1171/ultra_instinct-680703
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on March 07, 2023, 06:26:46 am
Looks like Orrin Coley did his multi year project at Forest Rock today to add Ultra Instinct 8C

https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/forest_rock-1171/ultra_instinct-680703

Ah that's ace, he's put so much time into that! Sit start still to go  ;D

Well done Orrin if you're reading  :strongbench:
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: sherlock on March 07, 2023, 09:35:51 am
Here's Dan in 2019, working what became The Magna Strata.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ann-nigel/52728372113/in/datetaken-public/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ann-nigel/52727369447/in/datetaken-public/


Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: spidermonkey09 on March 07, 2023, 09:39:34 am
That looks incredible. Hope theres some footage.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Duma on March 07, 2023, 09:48:27 am
what shoes is he wearing in those shots?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: tk421a on March 07, 2023, 10:23:13 am
what shoes is he wearing in those shots?
Looks like left foot Chimera (old colour) and right foot Mago (last colour blue / green)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: sherlock on March 07, 2023, 12:00:03 pm
That looks incredible. Hope theres some footage.
Fairly sure there isn't, unfortunately. It went down surprisingly quickly on the day but I'm sure Dan will clarify in due course.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Ian T on March 07, 2023, 01:11:23 pm
Here's Richie Betts on it, way back in 2008. IIRC he was coming into the line from Malc's and pulled all the pebbles off.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/7538425@N05/2407626226/
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on March 07, 2023, 01:47:23 pm
Lucky pebbles.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Duncan campbell on March 07, 2023, 04:10:14 pm
That looks incredible. Hope theres some footage.
Fairly sure there isn't, unfortunately. It went down surprisingly quickly on the day but I'm sure Dan will clarify in due course.

I’d settle for some nearly-but-not-quite footage tbh. Or even a hash of him trying it/ doing sections.

Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on March 07, 2023, 08:50:16 pm
Cool shots, some  :ninja: moves there.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on March 09, 2023, 11:54:57 am
Dan has some words down on it.

https://scottishbloc.com/2023/03/09/news-the-magna-strata/
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: MischaHY on March 09, 2023, 12:17:27 pm
Quote
Success is a death too, the real gold was that flow through the face. My word that’s a beautiful bit of rock, I think I’ll always be glad to look at that face as an old fart. The strata looking like a clinker built hull guiding the eye off down to Malc’s Arête, undoubtedly a world class problem in itself. The Mission with its bow shaped rail and that floaty French start move. The pebbles and the ripples of strata echoing a frozen shore. Finally it’s a challenge for boulderers as well, we can be the dancers on the frozen shore.

Nicely put, Dan.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Duma on March 09, 2023, 12:21:41 pm
"I could go in depth about transferring between frictional, gravitational and muscular oppositions in smooth transitional vectors but I’ll spare you the Dawes."


lol
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on March 09, 2023, 12:27:45 pm
"I could go in depth about transferring between frictional, gravitational and muscular oppositions in smooth transitional vectors but I’ll spare you the Dawes."


lol
:clap2:

Magnificent. Great report, great ascent, it's the Meltdown of bouldering IMO.

Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: scragrock on March 09, 2023, 01:21:57 pm
Dan's a guid C**t eh ;D
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on March 09, 2023, 06:07:09 pm
Just listening to Sam and Aidan's podcast and there's mention of a new one Aidan's put up on the Vecchio Leone bloc (<- just to annoy fiend) that links in to an existing 7B called Vecchio Brione. No name or grade yet but sounds like it took him a few sessions so I can't imagine it's easy.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Muenchener on March 13, 2023, 10:11:06 am
Is a 5.14d R trad route in the Gunks significant? Still not that many 9a trad routes about afaik

https://www.instagram.com/p/CptUgOdufR2/
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on March 13, 2023, 10:12:16 am
Looks like it to me!!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: cheque on March 13, 2023, 10:26:07 am
Isn’t everything in the Gunks meant to be sandbagged by about a number grade too?! Or does that just apply to the lower grades?

Has anyone on here climbed there? It seems to be one of those American areas that Europeans rarely visit.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: User deactivated. on March 13, 2023, 10:43:12 am
Just listening to Sam and Aidan's podcast and there's mention of a new one Aidan's put up on the Vecchio Leone bloc (<- just to annoy fiend) that links in to an existing 7B called Vecchio Brione. No name or grade yet but sounds like it took him a few sessions so I can't imagine it's easy.

I love how Aidan putting more than 2 days into something new is automatically a significant ascent and can be assumed to be at least 8C.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on March 22, 2023, 03:32:26 pm
New one for Dai Koyamada. Mugen 8C and 9A platform building skills.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CqFvbqrPEc9/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: warmonke on March 22, 2023, 03:51:30 pm
New one for Dai Koyamada. Mugen 8C and 9A platform building skills.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CqFvbqrPEc9/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Very cool problem, must have been a nightmare to get planning permission to build that landing
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: duncan on March 28, 2023, 07:41:57 pm
Sharma has climbed his Sleeping Lion project on El Pati. 9b or 9b+. The victory whoops were audible in Cornudella.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on March 28, 2023, 08:26:01 pm
Mega. 15 years after he climbed his first 9b with Jumbo Love and his 9th 9b or harder, 8 of which are first ascents.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: spidermonkey09 on March 28, 2023, 08:28:43 pm
 The King!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Duncan campbell on March 28, 2023, 08:53:12 pm
How old is Sharma? Great stuff that he’s still climbing so hard - imagine what Ondra will be doing in years to come!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on March 28, 2023, 09:20:31 pm
Sharma has climbed his Sleeping Lion project on El Pati. 9b or 9b+. The victory whoops were audible in Cornudella.
Did he say hi though??

Also that's bloody ace. Life in the old beast yet!!  :strongbench:
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: jwi on March 28, 2023, 09:51:30 pm
The route is described here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgacMtKWDMM
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on March 28, 2023, 10:04:27 pm
How old is Sharma? Great stuff that he’s still climbing so hard - imagine what Ondra will be doing in years to come!

He's 41.

https://climbing-history.org/climber/493/chris-sharma
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Will Hunt on March 28, 2023, 10:08:09 pm
Has anyone else tried this project and confirmed the grade? Very cool to see Sharma making a comeback.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: dunnyg on March 28, 2023, 10:09:29 pm
Yeah, 9b seemed fair.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on March 28, 2023, 10:25:16 pm
The route is described here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgacMtKWDMM
Cheers JWI, that looks great, proper sharma style. Strong beard game too.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on March 29, 2023, 08:01:22 am
Yeah, 9b seemed fair.

/+
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: gme on March 30, 2023, 03:22:57 pm
No news on this anywhere other than on here and reddit (which i suspect came from here).

Has this actually happened or has someone called it to soon.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: iwasmexican on March 30, 2023, 03:24:22 pm
No news on this anywhere other than on here and reddit (which i suspect came from here).

Has this actually happened or has someone called it to soon.

see below- sounds like a first hand report

Sharma has climbed his Sleeping Lion project on El Pati. 9b or 9b+. The victory whoops were audible in Cornudella.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: gme on March 30, 2023, 03:32:27 pm
Did he see him or hear some noise from Cornudella.

Find it hard to believe its nowhere on the internet other than here or has he gone all Sean Raboutou and not telling anyone until next year.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: UnkArl on March 30, 2023, 07:10:00 pm
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CqbAk3UMzqj/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= (https://www.instagram.com/reel/CqbAk3UMzqj/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)

Climbing Magazine are reporting it in an “exclusive interview”
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Ged on March 30, 2023, 07:39:17 pm
9b± too. No slash grade.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: gme on March 30, 2023, 09:59:14 pm
I spoke too soon. Seems like there is a move to hold off the insta spray until it can be released in a controlled media type of manner.

A well done UKB in being ahead of the curve.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: andy popp on March 31, 2023, 07:52:48 am
Grading disputes aside, having just watched various Insta videos, including one of a very long link he did last year, this just looks like an absolutely stunning, stunning route on an amazing, effectively untouched wall. The quality would seem more important than the grade really.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Wellsy on March 31, 2023, 08:58:05 am
Mega impressive from Sharma. What a guy.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: highrepute on March 31, 2023, 09:46:51 am
Grading disputes aside, having just watched various Insta videos, including one of a very long link he did last year, this just looks like an absolutely stunning, stunning route on an amazing, effectively untouched wall. The quality would seem more important than the grade really.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cc0fS-oK7L3

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cj_WGEVgcVI
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: lukeyboy on March 31, 2023, 10:39:16 am
Very cool. Great to see Sharma still up there with the best.

Also I think I'm safe in assuming that the name is a tribute to LST (https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/cheddar_gorge_north-2280/lion_sleeps_tonight-221738) at Cheddar, I mean the resemblance is uncanny.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: shark on March 31, 2023, 10:44:51 am
Good interview by Sharma reflecting on getting his shit together to do this with the other things going on his life and other nuggets of wisdom (IMO best to scroll down past the guff to get to the actual interview)

https://www.climbing.com/news/exclusive-interview-chris-sharma-makes-5-15c-fa-in-siurana

Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: abarro81 on March 31, 2023, 11:01:17 am
Good interview by Sharma reflecting on getting his shit together to do this with the other things going on his life and other nuggets of wisdom (IMO best to scroll down past the guff to get to the actual interview)

https://www.climbing.com/news/exclusive-interview-chris-sharma-makes-5-15c-fa-in-siurana

https://web.archive.org/web/20230331020752/https://www.climbing.com/news/exclusive-interview-chris-sharma-makes-5-15c-fa-in-siurana/

Should get you past the paywall
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: duncan on March 31, 2023, 11:33:34 am
If you’ve not been to Siurana, El Pati is the showpiece. It has two clusters of hard routes at either end of the main part: the La Rambla sector on the left and routes around Kalea Borroka / Estado Critico on the right. There is a large gap between these two areas which had no routes on it until now. Sleeping Lion takes a blue streak up the middle. It looks amazing.

https://www.thecrag.com/climbing/spain/siurana/el-pati

It’s been quite warm in Siurana so Siuranella Est, which gets shade in the afternoon, has been a popular crag. It has a great view of El Pati on the other side of the valley. Sharma would turn up at around 5pm as the shadows started to creep up his route. The crowds on Sirunella had grandstand seats for his attempts. No pressure!

[Edited as first version could have been construed as a dig at gme. Not my intention, I thought he had a fair point and was surprised at the lack of buzz before the ‘official’ announcement.]

Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on March 31, 2023, 01:19:32 pm
Of much more local significance; Marco Giudice has done Jason's Roof without the use of the detached footblock to the left at the start. He's been working on it for a good while, and I have to say it looks like it adds some very good looking climbing and a fair bit of difficulty; it was a while ago that I was last there and chatted to him while he was on it but I'm sure he said it's something like adding a 7C or 7C+ to the start?

https://vimeo.com/813527162
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: yetix on March 31, 2023, 02:16:25 pm
This looks awesome Nick! I guess it must be 8A+ish from my armchair using Paul Robinsons grade formula?

Do big cave links constitute significant FAs? Between ticking basically every 8A going last year and continuing to do so this year Jack Pal has done in hell through to lip service via the pilgrimage drop down today, which must be similiar to pilgrimage in difficulty and I believe is the first time anyone has gone from in hell to the lip (with desroy famously (?) punting off the last move of Clyde from the same start a fair few years back (think that's correct?))

Edit, now he's done Dernier atrocity into the same finish (lip service via the pilgrimage undercut match)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: 36chambers on March 31, 2023, 02:47:16 pm
Of much more local significance; Marco Giudice has done Jason's Roof without the use of the detached footblock to the left at the start. He's been working on it for a good while, and I have to say it looks like it adds some very good looking climbing and a fair bit of difficulty; it was a while ago that I was last there and chatted to him while he was on it but I'm sure he said it's something like adding a 7C or 7C+ to the start?


Hero! Always thought this looked like it would be a better problem than the original. Am I right in thinking he originally pissed the normal version? Must add a bit if this took some doing.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on March 31, 2023, 03:19:33 pm
This looks awesome Nick! I guess it must be 8A+ish from my armchair using Paul Robinsons grade formula?

The best roof on grit just got better!

Of much more local significance; Marco Giudice has done Jason's Roof without the use of the detached footblock to the left at the start. He's been working on it for a good while, and I have to say it looks like it adds some very good looking climbing and a fair bit of difficulty; it was a while ago that I was last there and chatted to him while he was on it but I'm sure he said it's something like adding a 7C or 7C+ to the start?


Hero! Always thought this looked like it would be a better problem than the original. Am I right in thinking he originally pissed the normal version? Must add a bit if this took some doing.

I don't know tbh but he's a bit of a monster, especially in this style, so it won't be easy! Psyched to try it!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Kingy on March 31, 2023, 04:33:03 pm
I believe is the first time anyone has gone from in hell to the lip (with desroy famously (?) punting off the last move of Clyde from the same start a fair few years back (think that's correct?))

I remember Liam getting really close to that link back in 2008 or so. Yeah, to my knowledge, nobody else has previously done an In Hell start all the way to the lip
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Steve R on March 31, 2023, 07:25:53 pm
Quote from: Jen wilby
..... without the bloc
:slap: :wall:
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: crimpinainteasy on April 14, 2023, 04:43:34 pm
Seb Bouin has made another 9b FA. Guy is on fire right now.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: jwi on April 14, 2023, 09:12:18 pm
Seb Bouin has made another 9b FA. Guy is on fire right now.

Lucien Martinez writes about it here: https://www.grimper.com/news-30-ans-9b-our-seb-bouin

After having done the FA of Ariégeois Cœur Loyal in the morning of his thirtieth birthday, Seb celebrated by dragging everyone to the gym for a mega session, with lock offs, weighted pullups, campusing, bouldering, specific strength endurance and core, which destroyed Lucien (who is also an endurance monster).

Apparently you don't get the required endurance for stamina 9bs and 9cs without training.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Muenchener on April 14, 2023, 10:53:00 pm
Apparently you don't get the required endurance for stamina 9bs and 9cs without training.

... or for winning multiple lead world cup seasons.

I once watched a boulder world cup semifinal in the morning, in which Kim Jain placed 10th. Went to the wall in the afternoon, and, having no final to compete in, there she was instead running laps on the hardest route they had at the time (which iirc was about an 8b)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on April 17, 2023, 07:47:52 am
Looks like James Squire joined the 9a (sport) club yesterday with the FA of The World is Not Enough in Medonnet https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/medonnet-9969/the_world_is_not_enough-684807
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: shark on April 17, 2023, 08:31:57 am
Was surprised as I think of him as a boulderer so had to laugh when I read in the description that it is a bolted line up a large boulder.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on April 19, 2023, 06:48:03 am
Gotta play to your strengths  ;D
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on April 19, 2023, 06:50:09 am
UKB denizen Adam Lincoln has added a direct finish to Gigantic (an existing E8 at Wilton 1) which he's called Ginourmous. A touch harder than Gigantic apparently but not quite enough to nudge it in to E9.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fultonius on April 19, 2023, 07:44:32 am
Was surprised as I think of him as a boulderer so had to laugh when I read in the description that it is a bolted line up a large boulder.

I was also curious, having been to Medonnet I was wondering where there would be any sport routes. Nice wee boulder spot.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on April 19, 2023, 08:07:29 am
UKB denizen Adam Lincoln has added a direct finish to Gigantic (an existing E8 at Wilton 1) which he's called Ginourmous. A touch harder than Gigantic apparently but not quite enough to nudge it in to E9.
Up the blunt arete one presumes?? Good stuff.

Now someone needs to do the Chocolate Girl - Gigantic/Ginormous link, the holds are there...
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on April 19, 2023, 08:54:25 am
Im not too familiar with where the original goes but there's a pic on his IG stories of the new line https://www.instagram.com/stories/alincoln79/3083907893434809597/
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Adam Lincoln on April 19, 2023, 09:15:59 am
UKB denizen Adam Lincoln has added a direct finish to Gigantic (an existing E8 at Wilton 1) which he's called Ginourmous. A touch harder than Gigantic apparently but not quite enough to nudge it in to E9.
Up the blunt arete one presumes?? Good stuff.

Now someone needs to do the Chocolate Girl - Gigantic/Ginormous link, the holds are there...

Thanks Fiend, another local project to look at! Now that would be hard. The transition into the holds from chocolate girl is thin. Would be an incredible line..

As for Ginormous, yes, same up to where Gigantic goes off left, but instead you keep going up the blunt arete to a pop for the top of the crag. Even more scary when rope is behind your leg  :'(

Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: rginns on April 19, 2023, 11:20:18 am
UKB denizen Adam Lincoln has added a direct finish to Gigantic (an existing E8 at Wilton 1) which he's called Ginourmous. A touch harder than Gigantic apparently but not quite enough to nudge it in to E9.
Up the blunt arete one presumes?? Good stuff.

Now someone needs to do the Chocolate Girl - Gigantic/Ginormous link, the holds are there...

Thanks Fiend, another local project to look at! Now that would be hard. The transition into the holds from chocolate girl is thin. Would be an incredible line..

As for Ginormous, yes, same up to where Gigantic goes off left, but instead you keep going up the blunt arete to a pop for the top of the crag. Even more scary when rope is behind your leg  :'(
That sounds potentially horiffic!
Good effort on that one Adam :great:
Dave seemed psyched to have seen you do it :)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on April 19, 2023, 12:51:30 pm
.A touch harder than Gigantic apparently but not quite enough to nudge it in to E9.

Verified by science / egrader? Can't just give these things numbers willy nilly :)

Nice one Adam.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on April 20, 2023, 12:43:41 pm
Was surprised as I think of him as a boulderer so had to laugh when I read in the description that it is a bolted line up a large boulder.

I was also curious, having been to Medonnet I was wondering where there would be any sport routes. Nice wee boulder spot.

Full details on his IG (beastlysquirrel, sorry, can't link, work blocks it). Looks cool.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on April 25, 2023, 04:00:03 pm
Another 8C+ for Aidan https://www.instagram.com/p/CrdQTLVNW4u/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: warmonke on April 25, 2023, 04:03:25 pm
Another 8C+ for Aidan https://www.instagram.com/p/CrdQTLVNW4u/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
I'm assuming this is the one he was talking about in his podcast a little while ago? Sounds like pretty interesting movement so hopefully there's some footage
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Sasquatch on April 25, 2023, 07:37:39 pm
Another 8C+ for Aidan https://www.instagram.com/p/CrdQTLVNW4u/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
I believe there is footage of several people working this in this video.  Also a bunch of people working the other two FA's he refers to. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0HMSamy-AI
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on April 26, 2023, 11:41:29 am
Nothing remotely "mellow" about that video  :lol:
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on April 26, 2023, 12:00:27 pm
Another 8C+ for Aidan https://www.instagram.com/p/CrdQTLVNW4u/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
I'm assuming this is the one he was talking about in his podcast a little while ago? Sounds like pretty interesting movement so hopefully there's some footage

That's the one. Podcast here https://open.spotify.com/episode/4tiWiDzWnbMN2PKUoFQC1Y?si=ed7f7c3fc39240e5 if anyone wants a listen.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: warmonke on April 26, 2023, 12:14:55 pm
Nothing remotely "mellow" about that video  :lol:
I dunno, Dave Graham and his massive spliff are looking pretty mellow
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on May 08, 2023, 10:46:11 am
New one called 'Olwen' from James Taylor and Franco on Painted Wall. Sounds about 8a+ with some spicy sections, or E9 6c in old money.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cr8vPofNmjA/
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: andy moles on May 08, 2023, 11:04:44 am
New one called 'Olwen' from James Taylor and Franco on Painted Wall. Sounds about 8a+ with some spicy sections, or E9 6c in old money.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cr8vPofNmjA/

Cool addition. Firming up as one of the UK's premier sprad venues! (not that this route is any way hybrid AFAIK)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: El Mocho on May 08, 2023, 11:39:29 am
Nice one James, nice name as well.

Cool addition. Firming up as one of the UK's premier sprad venues! (not that this route is any way hybrid AFAIK)

I think I went on this a month or so back (I went down shunting on my own and due to inability to remember route descriptions I thought this was Caffs E6 and had a right spanking. From my shit dog up it 8a+ and E9 felt bob on, and great climbing. I felt a lot better when I got home and worked out it was a proj not an E6...). If it was this I was on it shared the first few bolts with the line to the left, but from then on is on natural gear. There is a decent undercut rest before the top crux section where it looks like you get some ok cams but it would be a fairly big fall onto this and really bad if they/the flake ripped.

I know this maybe isn't the correct thread for the bolt-peg debate but the day I went there was a bunch of drill dust and a new bolt (with still wet resin) on the crux of Painted groove (as I worked out it was afterwards!). The new bolt is in a much better place to clip but is nowhere near a natural crack/old peg placement. I did then see what looked like the old bolt-peg placement down and to the right (in a bit of a crack, now just a hole covered in resin). It would be a pig to clip here. The old placement might also have been in reach from this new route? Not sure if that has any relevance to why it was moved?

Sorry, not meaning to turn this into a debate about ethics when it's a thread celebrating hard new shit, but it did seem a bit relevant to the route.

Also this was my first time here, and as you can tell I didn't really know what was what so my info may all be incorrect, an occurrence which is pretty common for me.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: JamesTaylor on May 08, 2023, 05:25:00 pm
It is a hybrid route. You follow the sport route for 3 bolts then head strait up where the sport route goes hard left. Its a good runout from the 3rd bolt which is at around 5m, the next gear that's any good is at the flake undercuts at about 9m so perhaps some ground scrapers if you bin it (I did place a slider in a broken pocket mid runout but I don't trust it at all). Good gear in the 9m flake and another runout of 6m to clip the final bolt of the sport route. There is a 6b/6c sequence to get to the holds you clip the last bolt from so good whip on the cards from there. The route has 4 bolts in total but I wouldn't describe it as being very safe.

I felt it was a fair bit harder than the sport route that is considered 8a so thought 8a+ was fair. Egrader coughed up E10 when I looked but its defiantly not and probably even a softy at E9. Jim time will tell.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: northern yob on May 09, 2023, 12:57:30 pm
 


I know this maybe isn't the correct thread for the bolt-peg debate but the day I went there was a bunch of drill dust and a new bolt (with still wet resin) on the crux of Painted groove (as I worked out it was afterwards!). The new bolt is in a much better place to clip but is nowhere near a natural crack/old peg placement. I did then see what looked like the old bolt-peg placement down and to the right (in a bit of a crack, now just a hole covered in resin). It would be a pig to clip here. The old placement might also have been in reach from this new route? Not sure if that has any relevance to why it was moved.

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on May 10, 2023, 06:36:29 am
Emma Twyford has added a new 8b+ to LPT she's called Deux Mauvais Melons https://www.instagram.com/p/CsBtOCerfrH/

It's a link up that does the start of Meloncholie in to bad, bad boy and then finishes up pas de deux. Looks like a lovey straight line up the wall though (to my untrained eye).

Hardest FA by a woman in the UK?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Duncan campbell on May 10, 2023, 06:47:00 am
Nice!! This is the training link for the biggie which is to do melanchollie to the bad bad boy traverse then head into pas de deux which Emma was saying would be 8c+

She was looking close a few weeks ago - great to see she got it done
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on May 10, 2023, 07:11:33 am
Nice!! This is the training link for the biggie which is to do melanchollie to the bad bad boy traverse then head into pas de deux which Emma was saying would be 8c+

I think this is what she's just done? She described it as

Quote
Starts up melancholie to the undercuts, traverse right into bad bad boy and finish up pas de deux.

Apologies if Im missing something obvious as I hardly know the crag (much to my shame!)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: petejh on May 10, 2023, 08:18:46 am
Nope, from the undercuts on Melancholie into BBB and finishing up PdD is the easier version, @ 8b+, that doesn't take in the upper crux of Melancholie.

Doing all of Melancholie's hard climbing would land you on the traverses of BBB, from which you could then finish up PdD @ 8c+.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: shark on May 10, 2023, 09:06:25 am
The main objective will be a great linkup and the way Melancholie ideally would always have gone.

So just to be clear (correct me if wrong) she’s looking to climb  Melancholie (hard?) 8b to where it cops out left at the BBB traverse and instead finish direct into Pas de Deux (hard?) 8a+. Presumably  because the rest on the BBB traverse is poor this will bump the whole line up to 8c+. What she’s done so far is miss out the last bit of Melancholie to where it joins BBB at the traverse and also means she gets a decent rest in the BBB groove - hence 8b+.

Not significant as a line but good to hear about as a marker for the main objective.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: spidermonkey09 on May 10, 2023, 09:08:08 am
The law that a significant new route will be done near enough exactly when a new guide to the crag is released strikes again!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on May 10, 2023, 09:15:54 am
Good knowledge, thanks Duncan, Pete + Shark.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: petejh on May 10, 2023, 10:57:30 am
The main objective will be a great linkup and the way Melancholie ideally would always have gone.

So just to be clear (correct me if wrong) she’s looking to climb  Melancholie (hard?) 8b to where it cops out left at the BBB traverse and instead finish direct into Pas de Deux (hard?) 8a+. Presumably  because the rest on the BBB traverse is poor this will bump the whole line up to 8c+. What she’s done so far is miss out the last bit of Melancholie to where it joins BBB at the traverse and also means she gets a decent rest in the BBB groove - hence 8b+.


Darth grader has hard 8b into medium rest into hard 8a+ as 8c, not 8c+. There you go - a new route downgraded before it's even been done! Joking aside I would call the rest on the BBB trav as medium - you can shake out there for ages on BBB, a 7c(/7c+). For an 8b or 8c route it's a great rest. Perhaps we need a better grading system for rests now as well.. shake-out-grader.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: shark on May 10, 2023, 11:44:07 am
Just clicked on the Instagram link and see it has a video of her doing it if anyone is still confused.

Re the rest on BBB I thought it would be on the high undercuts on the traverse line but looking at the video shows how close the jugs are to the right so assume you would use those for the as-yet-unclimbed objective in which case, yes, 8c+ sounds a bit of a stretch on paper.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Doylo on May 10, 2023, 12:03:46 pm
The main objective will be a great linkup and the way Melancholie ideally would always have gone.

So just to be clear (correct me if wrong) she’s looking to climb  Melancholie (hard?) 8b to where it cops out left at the BBB traverse and instead finish direct into Pas de Deux (hard?) 8a+.

Not really a cop out, it's the more obvious way to finish Mel - plus the line of least resistance. It's more arbitary to finish up PDD but an obvious and worthwhile link nevertheless. Always wondered whether you'd keep traversing right to the big jug to at the top of the BB groove, wouldn't be quite as cool as you'd be traversing right then back left before going up.

Darth grader has hard 8b into medium rest into hard 8a+ as 8c, not 8c+. There you go - a new route downgraded before it's even been done!

Melanchollie is hard 8b but you obviously don't do the BB finish on the project link. Pas De Deux is hard 8a+ from the deck starting up BB, doing the final boulder problem after Mel more like a 7B+ finish. Hardish 8b into 7B+ with extra brownie points if you don't keep traversing right to the big jug before coming back. 8b into 7B+ may not sound like 8c+ but barring the connecting flatties on BB its nearly all savage crimping. Some insane crimpy PE and skin (and cons) required.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: petejh on May 10, 2023, 12:07:39 pm
Melanconnies
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on May 10, 2023, 12:10:35 pm
Infinite Sadness more like.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: RobK on May 10, 2023, 12:20:32 pm
There's also a good knee bar rest to be had at the start of the PDD headwall, above the BBB jugs, which Emma doesn't use. Not sure if this is a leg length thing, or if she just decided it doesn't work for her. It's a bit knacky, but possible to go no handed. Quite core intensive though.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: owensum on May 18, 2023, 03:59:06 pm
Vadim Timonov—Blackflip sit 9A first ascent in djan-tugan, Russia.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Wellsy on May 18, 2023, 04:53:22 pm
Ooooh thats exciting news! Hopefully a vid soon?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: owensum on May 18, 2023, 05:09:16 pm
Putin's on his way now to get first repeat.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on May 18, 2023, 05:10:52 pm
Minor correction in that he suggested 8C+/9A. Pretty sure it'll be hard wherever the grade settles.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CsTohl-tS48/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: owensum on May 18, 2023, 05:20:31 pm
Minor correction in that he suggested 8C+/9A. Pretty sure it'll be hard wherever the grade settles.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CsTohl-tS48/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

On 8a, he listed 9A and said "I gave 8C+\9A for social media but I feel it harder than all 8C+ I tried before."
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: yetix on May 18, 2023, 07:37:15 pm
I'm sure he's a beast, and it could be 9A, but checking his logbook he's done 1 8c+ before which was an FA which he said was 8c/+ at the time I believe...

Will be cool to see if in the future others will go and try it and comment on the grade.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: lukeyboy on May 18, 2023, 07:39:37 pm
Very cool. Imagine it could be a while before it receives an international repeat...
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on May 19, 2023, 08:17:20 am
About as likely as Robbie Philips' new problem on the flank of Ben Loyal (sorry can't post link IG blocked at work). Cool looking piece of rock though.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on May 19, 2023, 09:34:20 am
Minor correction in that he suggested 8C+/9A. Pretty sure it'll be hard wherever the grade settles.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CsTohl-tS48/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

On 8a, he listed 9A and said "I gave 8C+\9A for social media but I feel it harder than all 8C+ I tried before."

Good spot, certainly sounds like he thinks it's 9A.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: owensum on June 05, 2023, 08:12:33 pm
Dave Graham has put up a new 8C+ in Bavona, Celestite (he says FA'd in March). Looks pretty amazing

https://www.instagram.com/p/CtHhoEft9eU/?hl=en
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on June 05, 2023, 09:21:45 pm
Didier Berthod is back in the game! FA of  a line he's called The Crack of Destiny on the Squamish chief. 5.14 and harder than cobra apparently.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on June 05, 2023, 09:59:21 pm
Dave Graham has put up a new 8C+ in Bavona, Celestite (he says FA'd in March). Looks pretty amazing

https://www.instagram.com/p/CtHhoEft9eU/?hl=en
Well good! The wizard keeps wizarding.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: owensum on June 05, 2023, 10:07:00 pm
Didier Berthod is back in the game! FA of  a line he's called The Crack of Destiny on the Squamish chief. 5.14 and harder than cobra apparently.

Wow hadn't heard this. Googling unearthed this pretty interesting piece on him from last year:

https://english.elpais.com/sports/2022-11-15/didier-berthod-from-rock-climbing-star-to-monk-and-back-again.html
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on June 05, 2023, 10:26:41 pm
Didier Berthod is back in the game! FA of  a line he's called The Crack of Destiny on the Squamish chief. 5.14 and harder than cobra apparently.

Wow hadn't heard this. Googling unearthed this pretty interesting piece on him from last year:

https://english.elpais.com/sports/2022-11-15/didier-berthod-from-rock-climbing-star-to-monk-and-back-again.html

Tom did an interview with him a while back, haven't listened to it recently but I remember it being decent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aSZ19z41Hg
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on June 05, 2023, 10:48:35 pm
Didier Berthod is back in the game! FA of  a line he's called The Crack of Destiny on the Squamish chief. 5.14 and harder than cobra apparently.

Wow hadn't heard this. Googling unearthed this pretty interesting piece on him from last year:

https://english.elpais.com/sports/2022-11-15/didier-berthod-from-rock-climbing-star-to-monk-and-back-again.html
Good little read that!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on June 06, 2023, 09:12:55 am
https://gripped.com/news/didier-berthod-frees-new-squamish-5-14-trad/?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic%2Fclimbing

hard to see where the route goes.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: lukeyboy on June 06, 2023, 12:25:15 pm
Didier Berthod is back in the game! FA of  a line he's called The Crack of Destiny on the Squamish chief. 5.14 and harder than cobra apparently.

Wow hadn't heard this. Googling unearthed this pretty interesting piece on him from last year:

https://english.elpais.com/sports/2022-11-15/didier-berthod-from-rock-climbing-star-to-monk-and-back-again.html

Really interesting, thanks
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Kingy on June 26, 2023, 10:31:44 pm
Jana Švecová Nova 8B+ (Holstejn crag at Moravsky Kras in Czech Republic).

A kind of half way house to the full Terra Nova 8C+ by Adam Ondra (her next goal).

www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMiaMJXrxmk&t=438s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMiaMJXrxmk&t=438s)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on June 27, 2023, 07:11:52 am
Jana Švecová Nova 8B+ (Holstejn crag at Moravsky Kras in Czech Republic).

A kind of half way house to the full Terra Nova 8C+ by Adam Ondra (her next goal).

www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMiaMJXrxmk&t=438s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMiaMJXrxmk&t=438s)

Had thought of mentioning this. Totally, totally different beta to Ondra. Looks absolutely nails.

Weird to describe it as an FA though.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on June 27, 2023, 08:26:41 am
Weird to describe it as an FA though.

It is a bit raven tor-esque, but as I understand it it does add a couple of sit moves that aren't part of Terranova, so it's not quite a case of pulling on in the middle of an existing problem and calling it an FA.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Dingdong on June 27, 2023, 11:59:53 am
Jana Švecová Nova 8B+ (Holstejn crag at Moravsky Kras in Czech Republic).

A kind of half way house to the full Terra Nova 8C+ by Adam Ondra (her next goal).

www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMiaMJXrxmk&t=438s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMiaMJXrxmk&t=438s)

Had thought of mentioning this. Totally, totally different beta to Ondra. Looks absolutely nails.

Weird to describe it as an FA though.

Luckily she didn’t campus any of the moves  :P
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on July 14, 2023, 12:59:22 pm
Mat Wright has added a new line up at Pavey Ark. Looks like it takes the wall between Lexicon and Six Pence (I don't know the crag so just going off pics) https://www.instagram.com/p/CurHEmqNVro/?img_index=1

Mat said it was very bold, and based on the pic it looks like it might have gear in the same break as Lexicon but keep going to a higher bit of the crag?

No name or grade yet.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: lukeyboy on July 14, 2023, 01:32:15 pm
Very cool!

... same break as Lexicon but keep going to a higher bit of the crag?

No name or grade yet.

Hopefully a less shit one  :lol:
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Adam Lincoln on July 14, 2023, 02:06:49 pm
Thats Charlie woodburns old project. So must have been bold and hard!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: 36chambers on July 14, 2023, 03:07:43 pm
Very cool!
... same break as Lexicon but keep going to a higher bit of the crag?

No name or grade yet.
Hopefully a less shit one  :lol:

Suprême Lexicon
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Tony on July 14, 2023, 03:18:35 pm
Looks like it takes the wall between Lexicon and Six Pence

That really would be finding another dimension in the wall given how close Lexicon and Sixpence are:
https://www.frcc.co.uk/routes/lexicon/ (https://www.frcc.co.uk/routes/lexicon/)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Adam Lincoln on July 14, 2023, 03:24:51 pm
Looks like it takes the wall between Lexicon and Six Pence

That really would be finding another dimension in the wall given how close Lexicon and Sixpence are:
https://www.frcc.co.uk/routes/lexicon/ (https://www.frcc.co.uk/routes/lexicon/)

Its an obvious gap and proper line.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: El Mocho on July 14, 2023, 03:26:05 pm
Is it the wall to the right of Sixpence rather than between Sixpence and Lexicon?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: csl on July 14, 2023, 04:33:19 pm
Is it the wall to the right of Sixpence rather than between Sixpence and Lexicon?

Looks like it to me, you can see the grassy ledge to the right of Mat in the link Tony S posted
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Will Hunt on July 14, 2023, 04:38:59 pm
Is it the wall to the right of Sixpence rather than between Sixpence and Lexicon?

Looks like it to me, you can see the grassy ledge to the right of Mat in the link Tony S posted

Thank fuck. All I could think when I read the original description was that Lexicon was tight enough already.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on July 14, 2023, 04:48:13 pm
Whoops, sorry for the confusion. I assumed Six Pence went somewhere right of the grassy ledge, didn't realise it was so close to Lexicon.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Tony on July 14, 2023, 11:34:29 pm
Is it the wall to the right of Sixpence rather than between Sixpence and Lexicon?

Yes, mea culpa. I got my Sixpence and Impact Day mixed up. Sorry!

There’s a bit of space in there, not much of a line, except when chalked up, but that’s true of many of the routes on that wall. Still good routes.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on July 17, 2023, 06:58:41 pm
Mat Wright has added a new line up at Pavey Ark. Looks like it takes the wall between Lexicon and Six Pence (I don't know the crag so just going off pics) https://www.instagram.com/p/CurHEmqNVro/?img_index=1

Mat said it was very bold, and based on the pic it looks like it might have gear in the same break as Lexicon but keep going to a higher bit of the crag?

No name or grade yet.

Magical Thinking, E10 7a.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on July 17, 2023, 07:24:29 pm
Matt Helliker has added a new line to Doyden Point on the north Cornwall coast that he's called Anapanasati. He's suggested E9.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CuzqslttiXk/
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: lukeyboy on July 17, 2023, 07:41:13 pm
Matt Helliker has added a new line to Doyden Point on the north Cornwall coast that he's called Anapanasati. He's suggested E9.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CuzqslttiXk/

It sounds like all the options on a UKB poll rolled into one
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Nike Air on July 17, 2023, 08:07:09 pm
 Quality comment
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: jwi on July 17, 2023, 08:24:55 pm
I know nothing, but I do know that no 7c+ has a 7B boulder on top
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on July 17, 2023, 08:48:14 pm
I know nothing, but I do know that no 7c+ has a 7B boulder on top

(https://i.imgur.com/llEHSeh.png)

 ;)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on July 17, 2023, 09:02:19 pm
What does E-Grader (or logic) give for a Font 7B boulder problem with over 12m groundfall potential??

P.S. Lovely coastline / climbing around there and great to see exciting and dubiously graded developments!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: jwi on July 17, 2023, 09:45:30 pm
I know nothing, but I do know that no 7c+ has a 7B boulder on top

(https://i.imgur.com/llEHSeh.png)

 ;)

Hahaha. I would give it 8a.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: haydn jones on July 18, 2023, 08:06:25 am
That sounds exactly like the pinch test at water cum jolly which is 7c+ and definitely not 8a
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: AMorris on July 18, 2023, 04:00:41 pm
Dunno if it has been mentioned elsewhere, but Leo Skinner has done the direct start (from tourists jug) to Pool of Bethesda at 8B+. OG beta on Pool, if anyone is wondering.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: spidermonkey09 on July 18, 2023, 04:22:15 pm
That sounds exactly like the pinch test at water cum jolly which is 7c+ and definitely not 8a

https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/water-cum-jolly-140/the_pinch_test-149413
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: haydn jones on July 18, 2023, 05:16:50 pm
Yes I know it's in UKC as 8a which is why I was saying it's definitely not. It
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: lukeyboy on August 11, 2023, 09:42:50 am
This is pretty cool - whilst 8c+ may not be significant in itself, it's a very good flash, and (I assume) rare for a high standard sport route to be flashed for it's FA.

https://gripped.com/news/bouin-flashes-5-14c-first-ascent-in-france/
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Duma on August 11, 2023, 10:11:20 am
Thought the fact his previous best flash was 8b+ was more astonishing to be honest! Who on earth has more than a number grade between RP and flash??
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: jwi on August 11, 2023, 10:43:50 am
8c+ first go is world class. There are likely fewer than a dozen climbers who have done this. (From the top of my head: Midtbø, Becan(?), Usobiaga, Julián Puigblanqué, Schubert, Ondra, Megos, hmm... can't think of more)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Duma on August 11, 2023, 10:48:03 am
Of course. But it's also 5 grades below his RP level.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: jwi on August 11, 2023, 10:51:34 am
Thought the fact his previous best flash was 8b+ was more astonishing to be honest! Who on earth has more than a number grade between RP and flash??

A red point specialist? Stefano Ghisolphi has almost the same difference. I must say that I am a bit sceptical about the info that Seb's best flash previous was 8b+. He onsighted 8c when he was a teenager, and downgraded it of course, but I don't know if the downgrade stuck.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Dingdong on August 11, 2023, 11:17:45 am
I wonder if it would see a downgrade. Hard to imagine you can flash something as complex as that with the absolute best beta possible. Surely the o dawg will find a kneebar  :lol:
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Ally Smith on August 11, 2023, 11:35:39 am
Tom O'Halloran has completed his multi year project "Hump of Trouble" in the blue mountains.

https://youtube.com/@TomOHalloranAus

No grade yet, but described by him as V13 into V13 with no rest in his recent podcast with Sam & Aiden.

Darth Grader suggests 9b+?!?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: User deactivated. on August 11, 2023, 11:38:31 am
Tom O'Halloran has completed his multi year project "Hump of Trouble" in the blue mountains.

https://youtube.com/@TomOHalloranAus

No grade yet, but described by him as V13 into V13 with no rest in his recent podcast with Sam & Aiden.

Darth Grader suggests 9b+?!?

vid of the moves - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WOJVknSsHs
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Wellsy on August 11, 2023, 12:02:12 pm
Is it a route or a boulder? Vid won't play for me

Edit: ah route I see
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: jwi on August 11, 2023, 12:14:10 pm
I wonder if it would see a downgrade. Hard to imagine you can flash something as complex as that with the absolute best beta possible. Surely the o dawg will find a kneebar  :lol:

 The bolter suggested 8c+/9a, but after the flash Seb went up again to dog the route to check what it felt like with optimal sequences and suggested hard 8c+.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Dingdong on August 11, 2023, 01:16:09 pm
I wonder if it would see a downgrade. Hard to imagine you can flash something as complex as that with the absolute best beta possible. Surely the o dawg will find a kneebar  :lol:

 The bolter suggested 8c+/9a, but after the flash Seb went up again to dog the route to check what it felt like with optimal sequences and suggested hard 8c+.

Ah nice, good to see he went back to clean up the sequence. I was surprised as usually when worked FAs go up people still seem to find new sequences, guess this could still be the case possibly. Amazing feat anyways. Can’t imagine what it must feel like to flash something that hard  :jaw:
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fultonius on August 21, 2023, 02:15:52 pm
Somehow I'd totally missed that one of Scotland's under the radar dark horses had completed his long-standing E10 projects on the Aberdeen seacliffs. One for Remus' list:  https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/long_haven_quarries-3201/coldfinger-683151

Nice one Gordy. (Lennox)

Despite having just checked the list I somehow totally missed that it was on there....  :chair:
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on August 21, 2023, 02:34:51 pm
A set of impressive hard routes on that wall now. Good effort.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Wellsy on August 21, 2023, 02:58:19 pm
Waddage
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: andy moles on August 26, 2023, 10:02:13 am
Mat Wright has climbed a new E10 called Black Thistle in Glen Nevis.

Goes up the blunt arete of Pandora's Buttress, to the right of Dave Mac's Misadventure (E8). Possibly to a shared finish? I saw his rope on this a couple of weeks ago, kinda surprised it hadn't been done by the Mac previously as it's very conspicuous, even from the road.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on August 26, 2023, 10:21:02 am
Good knowledge. Noticed some hints on his insta a few weeks ago and been waiting for some more detail to emerge.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: andy moles on August 26, 2023, 10:52:05 am
Horrendous time of year to have a hard project at Polldubh! Lucky for him there have been a decent number of breezy days.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on August 26, 2023, 10:37:30 pm
Either midgy or roasting in there right now. Good going.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on August 30, 2023, 09:42:40 pm
Another new 8C in the South West for Solly

https://www.instagram.com/p/CwlEFB4NKhs/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

Seen some other pics floating about, looks like an incredible bit of coastal rock.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on August 31, 2023, 08:13:47 am
Mat Wright has climbed a new E10 called Black Thistle in Glen Nevis.

https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2023/08/black_thistle_e10_7a_-_first_ascent_by_mat_wright-73432

full splab now here.

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starting climbing had to wait until I was old enough to take my own path at sixteen.
strange that this would be regarded as old these days. I was 20 before I knew rock climbing was even a thing.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: andy moles on August 31, 2023, 09:48:53 am

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starting climbing had to wait until I was old enough to take my own path at sixteen.
strange that this would be regarded as old these days. I was 20 before I knew rock climbing was even a thing.

To be fair there's nothing said there about 16 being old in the grand scheme of things, only that it was later than he would have liked for realising his dreams/legacy etc.

Though no doubt 16 is a late start for someone climbing that hard.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on August 31, 2023, 09:55:45 am
it's implied that it's old, but I agree that it's a rapid progression, as he must be what, 25 now?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: BrutusTheBear on August 31, 2023, 10:13:21 am
Another new 8C in the South West for Solly

https://www.instagram.com/p/CwlEFB4NKhs/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

Seen some other pics floating about, looks like an incredible bit of coastal rock.
  It really is a great piece of rock tucked away in a very unlikely cranny (the approach is impossible to describe!).. More than just an 8c there and more than just that steep board (stuff for mortals also).  The holds on Solly's problem are as ratty as they come, very impressive stuff, incredible in fact.  Sounds wonderful doesn't it?
Unfortunately, there is a perfectly shaped gully/ constriction that diverts any swell into a sheet of water that lands directly on the board and you. Unexpected soakings abound.  So hard to get conditions right. 
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on September 15, 2023, 07:50:06 am
Another new on from Solly: Apple Crumble 8B. https://www.instagram.com/p/CxLOFXEtleS/

Looks cool but the name doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in the rock quality  :lol:
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Duncan campbell on September 15, 2023, 09:52:22 am
Finally, a boulder that actually sounds like choss!

This is like the amalgamation of Fiend’s lived life experiences and his “wish he had lived” life experiences on a board. Beautiful stuff
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on September 18, 2023, 05:43:17 pm
Jen Wood has made the FA of a line on Hvar, Croatia and suggested 8c. No name as yet. Hardest FA by a British woman I think?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CxVrNaItlE6/
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Paul B on September 19, 2023, 03:54:57 pm
Looks cool but the name doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in the rock quality  :lol:

It looks quite eliminate unless I'm overestimating the stuff that's used for feet higher up (the LH looking rib/arete)?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on September 21, 2023, 08:26:43 pm
Phew. And hopefully a split grade  :yes:
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Kingy on October 14, 2023, 04:36:58 pm
Felix linked Persian Dawn 8c+ into Hajj 8c at the Tor earlier today. No grade yet but must be 9a min
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on October 14, 2023, 04:57:26 pm
Nice. Good link opportunity in to Kaa'bah too. Has anyone done the links from MiF in to Mecca extension/hajj/Kaa'bah before?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Kingy on October 14, 2023, 05:01:16 pm
Not yet. might not be long!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on November 09, 2023, 09:51:40 pm
Jen Wood has made the first ascent of Troppo 8b+, an open project at Poets in Kalymnos.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Czbwuk1tsTn/?igshid=ZHRkZ2FzMTJqM3hq
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on November 10, 2023, 08:30:28 am
Chris Sharma has made the first ascent of a new DWS line on Mallorca he's called Black Pearl, sounds like it's around the 9a/+ mark which puts it up there with the hardest DWS routes around (Es Pontas, Alasha, Big Fish. All Sharma FAs for those playing along at home.) Sounds like it's just next door to Big Fish in case you fancy popping down to give it a go.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CzcGOI4vbPK/
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on December 11, 2023, 11:17:57 am
Jana Švecová has made the first ascent of a problem she's called Dune for which she's suggested 8B. I think her and Isabelle Faus are the only women to have established new problems 8B or harder?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh24IEQkhmA
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on December 27, 2023, 08:36:44 am
Carlo Traversi has climbed an old project on the Thriller boulder in Yosemite which he's called The Dark Side and suggested 8C+ for.

https://www.8a.nu/crags/bouldering/united-states/camp-4/sectors/unknown-sector-5dd83/routes/the-dark-side/
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on December 30, 2023, 11:11:02 pm
Very cool looking prob.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on January 29, 2024, 05:21:02 pm
Sean Bailey has recently climbed the low start to Evilution in the Buttermilks, calling it Devilution and suggesting 8C+.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5bnU43rvODIPSRk5rsfSnC
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: owensum on January 29, 2024, 10:31:12 pm
That's awesome, he's been on a real tear out there. His vid of Spectre looked ludicrously casual. I wonder if he's trying Woods' The Process? Havent heard of that getting a repeat, anyone know if it broke?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on January 30, 2024, 07:09:00 am
From that podcast it sounds like he's in Red Rocks trying the proj at the start of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ayji9tDdMx8
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: owensum on February 05, 2024, 04:32:05 pm
For anyone interested, I did some digging and apparently The Process broke twice, got glued twice, and now very few ppl are psyched on it.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on February 05, 2024, 05:13:41 pm
For anyone interested, I did some digging and apparently The Process broke twice, got glued twice, and now very few ppl are psyched on it.

Good knowledge. Maybe not surprising people aren't that psyched, yarding on snappy little crimps on a massive highball doesn't sound great fun.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on February 07, 2024, 07:41:20 am
Sounds like Daniel Woods has done one of his projects in Colorado he's been trying for the last couple of months (plus some time last year). Probably called 'Adrenaline', can't imagine it'll be easier than 8C given the time he's put in to it.

https://www.instagram.com/stories/dawoods89/3297147367345134372/

Vid of a previous close go https://www.instagram.com/p/C197gvOuV99/
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on February 07, 2024, 09:08:09 am
Mmmm board style horror.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Aussiegav on February 07, 2024, 12:11:15 pm
Sounds like Daniel Woods has done one of his projects in Colorado he's been trying for the last couple of months (plus some time last year). Probably called 'Adrenaline', can't imagine it'll be easier than 8C given the time he's put in to it.

https://www.instagram.com/stories/dawoods89/3297147367345134372/

Vid of a previous close go https://www.instagram.com/p/C197gvOuV99/

‘Calling Mr Bosi.
There's an item here in Colorado waiting for you to collect.’  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Ally Smith on February 13, 2024, 11:44:45 am
8C+ proposed for "Adrenaline", Daniel Woods' latest FA

https://www.instagram.com/p/C3QP1yxufRh/?img_index=1
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on February 25, 2024, 10:11:41 am
Dave Sutcliffe has added a pretty hot looking new line at Bailldon Bank he's called 'The White Horse', suggested E7 7A or ~7C protected by a couple of pegs.

https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/baildon_bank-537/the_white_horse-721118
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Kingy on March 02, 2024, 08:44:08 am
Death of Villians 9a+ by Kai Lightner in the Hurricave, US

https://www.8a.nu/news/kai-lightner-fas-death-of-villains-9a%2B-n8pvs (https://www.8a.nu/news/kai-lightner-fas-death-of-villains-9a%2B-n8pvs)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on March 03, 2024, 07:46:13 am
Toru has established a new problem he's called Regret. 3 moves, 20 sessions, "harder than Lucid Dreaming".

https://www.instagram.com/p/C4CKIiOyueH/
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on March 07, 2024, 03:47:42 pm
Nico Ceria has put up a very cool looking line in Sardinia he's called Aeropressing. As per he's not offered a grade, but he likened it to The Big Island (8C) and Owning the Weather (8B+).

https://www.instagram.com/p/C4NwP68Nq1u/?img_index=1
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on March 07, 2024, 06:05:28 pm
All his stuff he's posted recently looks very cool.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on March 07, 2024, 08:15:22 pm
 :agree: with the "very cool" descriptions  :yes:
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on March 13, 2024, 04:19:32 pm
I don't really know much about Patagonia, but Sean Villaneuva ODriscoll is a beast so I assume this is pretty chunky.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C4dHEJSOaqC/?igsh=dWswNWtpcWp6eTcy
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Johnny Brown on March 13, 2024, 05:35:16 pm
It’s fucking incredible. To do the Fitzroy one was outrageous enough, now he’s done it in a different range. It’s worth noting that although Sean has done a few routes in Paine before, in general it is a much less travelled range and I suspect he’ll have had a lot less beta.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on March 13, 2024, 06:35:23 pm
Good context, thanks JB. Sounds like the weather was pretty tricky with this one too.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on March 13, 2024, 06:36:43 pm
In other news, Tom Bolger has joined the very short list of British people who've climbed 9b with the first ascent of E.L.L.I.E in Margalef.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C4dtCeutfUW/
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: El Mocho on March 13, 2024, 06:49:52 pm
It’s fucking incredible. To do the Fitzroy one was outrageous enough, now he’s done it in a different range. It’s worth noting that although Sean has done a few routes in Paine before, in general it is a much less travelled range and I suspect he’ll have had a lot less beta.

I think Shipoopie soloed the three main towers the year we were in Patagonia Adam, or the year before?

https://www.mountainzone.com/2002/story/outthere/html/patagonia_schneider.html
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Johnny Brown on March 13, 2024, 06:57:11 pm
Yeah I’d either forgotten or never knew that. Norte in 40 mins! I should have pushed on…

I’m still impressed with Sean.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: El Mocho on March 14, 2024, 09:07:41 am
Yeah I’d either forgotten or never knew that. Norte in 40 mins! I should have pushed on…

I’m still impressed with Sean.

Yeah that wasn't a dig a Sean at all. He seems to have a sort of comfortableness just being in those mountains, happy with his own ability and the situation. I know when I was there I was semi gripped the whole time, and you get the impression from reading the Shipoopie account (and from meeting the guy!) that it was likely a much higher stress affair...
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Johnny Brown on March 14, 2024, 10:00:02 am
I thunk the difference with Sean now is that he first had an incredible apprenticeship but, unlike pretty much anyone else, he didn't slow or settle down in his thirties. Watching Colin Haley's recent video on the Supercanaleta suggests age catches up with you mentally, but I suppose it depends what is driving you.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: edshakey on March 25, 2024, 12:41:10 pm
New Toru Nakajima line, harder than Lucid Dreaming apparently (no grade).

https://www.instagram.com/saruzaemon9/p/C4CKIiOyueH/

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Regret FA

So, I finally finished up this project on the right side of Emotion V14 in Ena, Japan. It started off with high 2 crisps, and then it was just 3 moves to the top with my beta. Took me over 20 days to connect these 3 moves together.
This rock is at the entrance of Ena, so I think the line is famous. I had been itching this since I climbed Emotion 10 years ago. I started trying last season and by the 3rd day, the move was solved. I thought I would be able to climb it right away, but I was terribly misguided.
Spending 20 days on just three moves, in freezing cold, is something I'll never forget. But, wow, those 20 days were something else.
Hands down, it was the hardest climbing challenge I've faced. But if you ask me the grade, I couldn't tell you. It feels harder than Lucid Dreaming V15 in Bishop, US, , which is kinda similar, but then again, who's to say if a 3-move V16 is a thing? While trying this challenge, I often thought back to my 20 days on Emotion 10 years ago. Just like anything else, looking back helps you get the full picture. Hopely someday I will know about this problem.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on March 25, 2024, 04:25:41 pm
Toru has established a new problem he's called Regret. 3 moves, 20 sessions, "harder than Lucid Dreaming".

https://www.instagram.com/p/C4CKIiOyueH/
:whistle:
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: edshakey on March 25, 2024, 04:35:41 pm
:slap:

Just spotted it on the other channel and assumed it was pretty recent! Should have known it's impossible to beat remus to the breaking of news ;)
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on March 25, 2024, 05:11:00 pm
Remusbot_AI predicts these ascents before anyone knows the climber is even trying the project  :ninja:
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: edshakey on March 25, 2024, 08:58:52 pm
Remusbot_AI predicts these ascents before the climber even knows they're trying the project  :ninja:
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on March 26, 2024, 09:00:46 am
In other news, Tom Bolger has joined the very short list of British people who've climbed 9b with the first ascent of E.L.L.I.E in Margalef.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C4dtCeutfUW/

Looking at his posts, this thing looks like a proper brute of a route to redpoint.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on April 05, 2024, 12:49:50 pm
Dave Sutcliffe has added a pretty hot looking new line at Bailldon Bank he's called 'The White Horse', suggested E7 7A or ~7C protected by a couple of pegs.

https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/baildon_bank-537/the_white_horse-721118

Had a look at this a couple of weeks ago; it's an incredible line, really impressive in the flesh.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: andy moles on April 05, 2024, 01:31:27 pm
Dave Sutcliffe has added a pretty hot looking new line at Bailldon Bank he's called 'The White Horse', suggested E7 7A or ~7C protected by a couple of pegs.

https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/baildon_bank-537/the_white_horse-721118

Had a look at this a couple of weeks ago; it's an incredible line, really impressive in the flesh.

Were the pegs placed for this ascent or are they historical?
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Adam Lincoln on April 05, 2024, 01:38:02 pm
Dave Sutcliffe has added a pretty hot looking new line at Bailldon Bank he's called 'The White Horse', suggested E7 7A or ~7C protected by a couple of pegs.

https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/baildon_bank-537/the_white_horse-721118

Had a look at this a couple of weeks ago; it's an incredible line, really impressive in the flesh.

Were the pegs placed for this ascent or are they historical?

One was dunneys from back in day and Sutty placed one.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Bradders on April 11, 2024, 09:51:33 am
Keenan Takahashi has made the first ascent of The Gold Standard on the Golden Boulder in Bishop. This feels pretty significant; proper LGP stuff. The face was originally climbed by Sonnie Trotter and named Standing on the Shoulders of Giants, and so named because one literally had to stand on a partner's shoulders to reach the start holds. What a line!

https://www.instagram.com/p/C5loYhuJAz4/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on April 11, 2024, 10:09:51 am
Cool. Hardest FA with a moustache that bushy??

Also....

Quote
I’m not really sure how to write a caption about something that I’ve been looking at for 12+ years, trying for 6 seasons and thought I might never send. But… I’m fucking psyched to have seen this one through!!!

...seems to be the sort of simple, direct way one could communicate this sort of thing:

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simply had a profound experience and he wasn't sure how to share it with the wider climbing public without the whole thing getting reduced down to numbers.




Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: spidermonkey09 on April 11, 2024, 11:38:24 am
Powerful tache. He should be playing AFL.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: teestub on April 11, 2024, 12:06:12 pm

Also....

Quote
I’m not really sure how to write a caption about something that I’ve been looking at for 12+ years, trying for 6 seasons and thought I might never send. But… I’m fucking psyched to have seen this one through!!!

...seems to be the sort of simple, direct way one could communicate this sort of thing:

Quote
simply had a profound experience and he wasn't sure how to share it with the wider climbing public without the whole thing getting reduced down to numbers.

Aidan basically talked for about 40 mins on the pod about the experience, that would be quite a long instagram caption!
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: andy popp on April 12, 2024, 05:29:15 am
Keenan Takahashi has made the first ascent of The Gold Standard on the Golden Boulder in Bishop. This feels pretty significant; proper LGP stuff. The face was originally climbed by Sonnie Trotter and named Standing on the Shoulders of Giants, and so named because one literally had to stand on a partner's shoulders to reach the start holds. What a line!

https://www.instagram.com/p/C5loYhuJAz4/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Here's another recent FA from the moustachioed one (or the film is recent anyway).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tiIf3Ac6HQ
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: gme on April 15, 2024, 04:33:50 pm
Noticed Dave Mc did his long term project at 8B+, and followed the trend of not telling anyone for a month. Will Bosi repeated in in a day a few weeks back and held off with that news until Dave released his. I had thought this would be harder as its taken him a long time.

News from Instagram.

This may have been reported earlier, its on climbing History,  but i cant be arsed to wade through pages of stuff about paywalls to check.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Fiend on April 15, 2024, 04:46:27 pm
https://www.instagram.com/climbermacleod/p/C5v6ldgIbo6/?hl=en

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A couple of weeks ago I completed my long term project on the Animal Boulder near Inverness. Although I did all the moves a couple of winters ago, I really struggled to link it from the start to the position in this pic. As usual for me, despite many tens of sessions, I kept changing things in my sequence right up to the session before I did it. One of these days, I'll complete a project that actually feels hard when you do it. Once I actually figured out beta that got around my lack of strength on undercuts, the successful try felt pretty steady. The first time I got to the lip, I got to the top. Given that the Animal Boulder looks like a bear's head, I'm calling this line 'Bultitude' after the soft spoken but deadly bear in C.S. Lewis' 'That Hideous Strength'. Torn on the grade but I'll go with 8B+ for now. 8B seems a bit harsh, although maybe folk strong on undercuts will find it easier. I have another project that relies on undercut strength and quite psyched to try that some more, now that I have some freedom from this line. I have some video of it to finish editing - its been a busy couple of weeks!

Two teasers of recent progress:
https://www.instagram.com/climbermacleod/reel/C4vIRQrLZcS/?hl=en
https://www.instagram.com/climbermacleod/reel/C4xYub6LE3g/?hl=en
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: scragrock on April 15, 2024, 04:51:36 pm
Shite Boulder in a Shite location.....Don't Go
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Duncan campbell on April 15, 2024, 05:33:23 pm
“It’s shite being Scottish, you’ve got the lowest of the low, shite boulders in shite locations…”

Sorry couldn’t help myself :P
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: SA Chris on April 15, 2024, 05:41:14 pm
Have you just looed at Robbie Philips' latest IG post. He references exactly that.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: gme on April 15, 2024, 06:10:44 pm
Just a shame about the real issue of weather and midge.

Must be some hard problems for Will to do somewhere up there.
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: ferret on April 15, 2024, 06:33:28 pm
“It’s shite being Scottish, you’ve got the lowest of the low, shite boulders in shite locations…”

Sorry couldn’t help myself :P

Love the reference.
When I saw Trainspotting at the cinema a huge group of local heroin addicts went to the showing. They smoked joints and drank white lightning all the way through and would whistle and shout every time the characters started shooting up.
When this scene came on a random scotish guy who happened to be in the front row stood up and screamed at the screen "don't you be talking shite about Scotland you c*nts"
Just an average day growing up in Grimsby
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: Duncan campbell on April 15, 2024, 06:57:46 pm
Have you just looed at Robbie Philips' latest IG post. He references exactly that.

Haha 😂 no I haven’t… still sadly unoriginal of me I guess
Title: Re: Significant First Ascents
Post by: remus on April 22, 2024, 04:33:53 pm
Tanguy Merad had a good couple of days on the 8th and 9th of April, establishing La cinquantaine éclatante 9a+, Brouncha 9a and then Hannigraal 9b at L’Abattoir near Grenoble.

https://planetgrimpe.com/incroyable-tanguy-merard-propose-hannigraal-9b-a-grenoble/
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